People race played the core of this breakup...most soap to make the storyline more interesting... They usually break you up to make up...but this never happened on this show....most shows put a hot couple like this back together after awhile.... But the racial divide got too out of hands with the Jolie fans..... They wanted Michael Easton because he was white and hot to be with white fat Nat regardless of the lack of chemistry between them..... The chemistry was so bad between John and Natalie they had to break them up over and over again...... So they killed Evangeline off the show for good, when they found out they was cancelled......A once good show went down the drain because of racist white folks............r
This made me cry so bad and its crazy I have never seen this episodes John just sat there and admitted that "its not that I don't love her, I just didn't liked been pushed into a corner" was he pushed into a corner by Natalie is that why he felt the need to tell her he loved her. Everything in Johns body language and facial expression is Love for Evangeline! Michael hit the nail on the head he should stop acting like a guy thats in love if you didn't truely feel that way!
I always felt John was scared of committing to Evangeline and that's why he couldn't say it. All of his previous relationships didn't last and he was afraid of his feelings for her. John and Evangeline had a really deep connection and John always felt like Van was too good for him. All of those things put him in a place where he could never feel comfortable enough to try again. despite how much he loved her. The timing was just wrong.
I felt John never told Van he loved her because, to him he always lost the ones he loved (his Dad & Caitlin). And it wasn't love he had for Natty, that was GUILT!!!!!!!!!!!! For and entire year he has shown Van in countless ways his love for her....Me personally I rather have my guy SHOW me than tell me...in other words DON'T TALK ABOUT IT .....BE ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!! #JOVAN4LIFE REG/ME
I hate John right now!! Michael was right...you don't go to funerals, make out in public, etc if you don't mean it. He loved her but he was scared to tell her.
Ms. Renee is awesome @.40-1:07 in this episode. Her expressions were on point. Don't tell me she's not a great actress. She's a great actress. You Go Ms. Renee. YOU ROCK!! Can't wait until 10/23/11 for your role on The Good Wife.
John was a complete ass to Evangeline. She basically wasted a year of her life with him just so he could end up with Knat-a-lie. What were the writers thinking?!
In soap opera land, they do a LOT of stuff that doesn't make sense to accommodate the storyline and characters they(writers) want to focus on. I call it "fake suspense".
it's funny how we all speculate about what John could have said or done, when we all saw that John and Evangeline where very much in love and that's where the SL was going. But something happened behind the scenes and I don't know what or who. I think the big wigs just didn't want an IR couple because that's the only reason I can see that it ened the way that it did. J/E were platium and to give that up for gold plated. I'm just saying.
Okay, this is the very reason why I feel that Natalie is NOT John's soulmate...she can't read him right and definitely does not know how give him space.
That redhead made me SICK! OMG. Something clearly went down and Vangie stormed out...do you really think your face is what he wants to see? I thought J/N were sooo in tune w/each other? She couldn't see he didn't want to be bothered? No, he has to snap @ her like she's 2.Mikey was a great brother. John needed someone he could open up to about this, but Mikey was also the person that didn't cut cards. This situation was so messed up.
See John does love Evangeline he said so at 8:59. It's not that I don't love her. See he does but for some reason he is afraid too. Maybe it has something to do with Catlin.
John never loved Natalie!!Jolie fans got it twisted. Me commented on a forum that John/Van should not give up. Michael acted as if he had a crush on Van seemed to be interferring in John/Van relationship. John always showed how he felt about Van. Natalie was never woman enough for John too inmature, wild, and boring to watch!!!
Micheal was so cool and to the point with John!!! But what goes around comes back around!!!Natalie dirty enabler!!!Got what she deserve from John in their relationship!!!! But John continued to be inlove with Van and regreted the decision to be with Natalie!!!Jolie was a joke from the beginning!!!ME made a comment that John/Natalie was never a couple!!! But we all know the OLTL writers and producers broke them up!!!John has not been the same it really shows on the screen no faking that!!!
Evangeline is a big girl indeed, she does'nt have to compete with a baby for love. But the truth is that Mic have said it all. John demon is gone now i think they can revisit jovan
John definitely had love for Evangeline but it wasn't enough for him to let go of Natalie. I think they should have made him resolve those feelings for her before he started dating Evangeline. Perhaps it would not have turned out that way. I like both Vange and Nat, but Nat was very bratty back in the day. She had no right to ingratiate herself but it does take two to tango and John was letting her do it.
RIP Nathaniel Marston. His scene here with John is one of my favorites. Prayers & Condolences to his family.
OMG, I didnt know he passed away, what happen?
9 YEARS LATER AND THIS IS STILL HARD TO WATCH !!!!!! #jovan4life
Yes!!!!!😭
Aww their picture is on Johns desk😍🤯
People race played the core of this breakup...most soap to make the storyline more interesting... They usually break you up to make up...but this never happened on this show....most shows put a hot couple like this back together after awhile.... But the racial divide got too out of hands with the Jolie fans..... They wanted Michael Easton because he was white and hot to be with white fat Nat regardless of the lack of chemistry between them..... The chemistry was so bad between John and Natalie they had to break them up over and over again...... So they killed Evangeline off the show for good, when they found out they was cancelled......A once good show went down the drain because of racist white folks............r
Exactly!!!! They should have stood up the show was never the same it went downhill!!
This made me cry so bad and its crazy I have never seen this episodes John just sat there and admitted that "its not that I don't love her, I just didn't liked been pushed into a corner" was he pushed into a corner by Natalie is that why he felt the need to tell her he loved her. Everything in Johns body language and facial expression is Love for Evangeline! Michael hit the nail on the head he should stop acting like a guy thats in love if you didn't truely feel that way!
I just love the f**k outta Mike in this scene. Preach it baby brother!
I loved Nathaniel as Micheal Mcbain,he was so funny.
I loved him too Nathaniel was great!
I always felt John was scared of committing to Evangeline and that's why he couldn't say it. All of his previous relationships didn't last and he was afraid of his feelings for her. John and Evangeline had a really deep connection and John always felt like Van was too good for him. All of those things put him in a place where he could never feel comfortable enough to try again. despite how much he loved her. The timing was just wrong.
Actually, John did tell it to her, she was just sleep.
I felt John never told Van he loved her because, to him he always lost the ones he loved (his Dad & Caitlin). And it wasn't love he had for Natty, that was GUILT!!!!!!!!!!!! For and entire year he has shown Van in countless ways his love for her....Me personally I rather have my guy SHOW me than tell me...in other words DON'T TALK ABOUT IT .....BE ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!! #JOVAN4LIFE REG/ME
I hate John right now!! Michael was right...you don't go to funerals, make out in public, etc if you don't mean it. He loved her but he was scared to tell her.
Ms. Renee is awesome @.40-1:07 in this episode. Her expressions were on point. Don't tell me she's not a great actress. She's a great actress. You Go Ms. Renee. YOU ROCK!! Can't wait until 10/23/11 for your role on The Good Wife.
OH mike you nailed bro good!
John was a complete ass to Evangeline. She basically wasted a year of her life with him just so he could end up with Knat-a-lie. What were the writers thinking?!
In soap opera land, they do a LOT of stuff that doesn't make sense to accommodate the storyline and characters they(writers) want to focus on. I call it "fake suspense".
LMAO Michael funny as hell!
These two were real sorry the writers have mess it all up
And he just said at 8:58.."It's not that I don't love her Mike..." Then why John, why couldn't you say it. *cries big fat tears* 6.26.12
it's funny how we all speculate about what John could have said or done, when we all saw that John and Evangeline where very much in love and that's where the SL was going. But something happened behind the scenes and I don't know what or who. I think the big wigs just didn't want an IR couple because that's the only reason I can see that it ened the way that it did. J/E were platium and to give that up for gold plated. I'm just saying.
She sang the ish out of that song!
Wow I wonder why he didn't tell his " soul mate" that he just broke with the woman that he didn't love. LOL
Wow . . ....sniff sniff . . . still a teeny bit painful.......I'm starting to remember the not so nice parts . . ...ugh...help!
Okay, this is the very reason why I feel that Natalie is NOT John's soulmate...she can't read him right and definitely does not know how give him space.
That redhead made me SICK! OMG. Something clearly went down and Vangie stormed out...do you really think your face is what he wants to see? I thought J/N were sooo in tune w/each other? She couldn't see he didn't want to be bothered? No, he has to snap @ her like she's 2.Mikey was a great brother. John needed someone he could open up to about this, but Mikey was also the person that didn't cut cards. This situation was so messed up.
See John does love Evangeline he said so at 8:59. It's not that I don't love her. See he does but for some reason he is afraid too. Maybe it has something to do with Catlin.
John never loved Natalie!!Jolie fans got it twisted. Me commented on a forum that John/Van should not give up. Michael acted as if he had a crush on Van seemed to be interferring in John/Van relationship. John always showed how he felt about Van. Natalie was never woman enough for John too inmature, wild, and boring to watch!!!
Micheal was so cool and to the point with John!!! But what goes around comes back around!!!Natalie dirty enabler!!!Got what she deserve from John in their relationship!!!! But John continued to be inlove with Van and regreted the decision to be with Natalie!!!Jolie was a joke from the beginning!!!ME made a comment that John/Natalie was never a couple!!! But we all know the OLTL writers and producers broke them up!!!John has not been the same it really shows on the screen no faking that!!!
s their theme song all is fair in love.
Yeah Natalie sneaking like her Father.
Evangeline is a big girl indeed, she does'nt have to compete with a baby for love.
But the truth is that Mic have said it all.
John demon is gone now i think they can revisit jovan
Natalie is a joke and a boring character and soooo inmature!!! John/Natalie relationship was fake in everyway!!!
did he ever tell her he loved her?
@EvangelinesHeart As far as I know, Natalie is the only one he's said "I love you" to. x
John definitely had love for Evangeline but it wasn't enough for him to let go of Natalie. I think they should have made him resolve those feelings for her before he started dating Evangeline. Perhaps it would not have turned out that way. I like both Vange and Nat, but Nat was very bratty back in the day. She had no right to ingratiate herself but it does take two to tango and John was letting her do it.
He shouldn't have been able to eat, sleep or breathe without Evangeline after that!