It so crazy how one couple (JoVan) from a soap opera makes us want to see more of them! It's been 9 1/2 years since this couple and we still love them dearly!
Let's get this clear once and for all. John loved Evangeline not Nat. He was only with Nat because he didn't think he deserved Vange or love because of how he lost Caitlin. That's why he kept going back to Nat and why he lived the way he did, look at his hotel room, it was horrible and so is Nat AND that's why he was with her. He thought he had to punish himself, that's why he pushed Vange away.
I think he loved Nat, but not in the "Im in love with you" type of love. It was the "I feel responsible for you" type of love. The love he had with Van was inspiring, which is why he was turning into a better person. She did that. However, b/c he hadn't battled his demons and took time to sort out & express his feelings, he messed up a good thing. Had the writers been true to the characters, John would have eventually fixed things w/ Van. Too bad he wasn't given the opportunity.
@@kgsunshine Me too!! And yes they were haters but out of them all she’s the star that shines the brightest! One door shut but oh so many others opened and she and her gifts had the final say!!
John may have loved Nat or thought he loved her but John was in love Evangeline.He was afraid of the love he had for Vange.I think John loved Vange just as much as he loved Catilin.That scared him and She died and i think he was afraid to let go.He show his love in so many ways but wouldn't say it.
After all the years that I have been watching soaps I've never seen a storyline quite like this. A man on a soap that can't tell a woman he loves her but enacts every action that demonstrates that he does. Soaps normally had the men professing their love all the time. No way in hell would a man give up a woman like Evangeline and then turn around and profess love to a immature hateful, jealous, rude, less attractive, less intelligent chic. Not even in an alternate dimension does this crap happen.
Ok damn it; now that One Life will be back, it's time to cut all this nonsense and get Michael and Renee back on *together*. John and gNatalie have had their time (and time again...and again). It's time for that to be over...completely. They can share a child without having to be together. It's time to correct the mistake made by ending Jovan. Get Renee back on OLTL so Jovan can finally reunite. 3.10.13
I think the writers thought their idea of John being with Nat was going to be well recieved and they would have crazy chemistry, and they didn't care what us the fans thought. So they wanted John and Nat together regardless of the explosive chemistry that John and Evangeline had. So they stuck to their guns and so did we, and THAT'S why they are rightfully cancled. Maybe GH or some other soap will pick up ME/REG and give them a great S/L.
what a letdown...... the writers got John doing and saying all kinda serious shit to Van...... like the string attached, giving Her the pearls for Her bday, that He wanna be with Her yesterday, today and tomorrow, don't want the break up, don't give up on Him, getting all emotional, did everything a BF would do for/with Her and then turn around and break Her heart.....It dont make sense....that part of the s/l was written sucks.......The thing is this character John don't seem the type that He would say or do something like that......cz that's so cold telling Her all that and not meant it..... This John had mad love for Van and the way the THNIC squashed it is beyond belief so they could hook Him up with Nattrap......smh......6/2024
Evangeline loves Her some rough neck......She's willing to go all the way with this Man if He wants Her the way She loves and wants Him.......But She wants to hear it from His lips the word "LOVE" which is important to Her and stay in their relationship...... Girl, take what u can get its just U and Him.......But the writers r taking it in a diff direction...... they can't take the heat that these two put out on display and they just talking here......Love how He reacts when She's shuts Him down. He talks to Her hair......1/2024😍
Because John was in love with Vange. Why would they aloud that between them happen then brake them up crazy.Hope RE come back this year and JoVan come back to life.
It was the stupid writers!!!!!! I don't know why they kept trying to present the fraud that was John and Nat. Every time they tried to put those two together, the viewership fell. You would think that someone would get a clue. I also notice their wedding/paternity SL was a flop, so they abandoned it and when the two Todds SL made made viewership rise, the writers tried to slip in the couple only to have the it fall again.
I luv the idea but you'd probably be better off suggesting the 2 of them on another network, because clearly ABC doesn't like color or IR couples on their network. Which is why I stopped watching. I too would luv for ME and REG to be back together again on TV but I won't hold my breath. Besides I don't think ME will be going back to NY for good especially since he just sold his condo (in NY) and moved to LA for GH and his other passions.
i'M LIKE U I BELIEVE John loved Nat but fell in love with Vange.He was afraid to let his self go for as telling her so. He try when he with to her place after the brake up but couldn't get his word right.Wasn't his fault writers and producer wouldn't let him say the words.ME said he wanted John to say he loved her to.
Well there goes that. I had no idea he relocated to LA, but it makes sense though. I know with Renee doing broadway and being rooted in Harlem, I shouldn't expect to see her on GH, but I can't help but hope. For my sanity, I have got to stop watching these clips. 9.6.12
Ok so does John ever get to a point where he say the words to Evangeline?? Sorry I know this is super late, but I got sucked into this show on youtube and now I want to know how it ends up lol
Renee's timing and facial expression at 2:38 is perfect. She's a great actress!
It so crazy how one couple (JoVan) from a soap opera makes us want to see more of them! It's been 9 1/2 years since this couple and we still love them dearly!
20 years now chile lol
"If John didn't love Evangeline then someone should have informed ME!" LOL...so true.
He can say that he wants to make love to her but he can't say I love you to her really .
John is her one and only true love..
Love the comments!!!!True love between ME/REG!!!!!JOVAN forever!!!
This was the perfect time for him to tell her he loves her. Damn I wish that he did you could see that he wants to.
Let's get this clear once and for all. John loved Evangeline not Nat. He was only with Nat because he didn't think he deserved Vange or love because of how he lost Caitlin. That's why he kept going back to Nat and why he lived the way he did, look at his hotel room, it was horrible and so is Nat AND that's why he was with her. He thought he had to punish himself, that's why he pushed Vange away.
I think he loved Nat, but not in the "Im in love with you" type of love. It was the "I feel responsible for you" type of love. The love he had with Van was inspiring, which is why he was turning into a better person. She did that. However, b/c he hadn't battled his demons and took time to sort out & express his feelings, he messed up a good thing. Had the writers been true to the characters, John would have eventually fixed things w/ Van. Too bad he wasn't given the opportunity.
Perfectly said!!!
@@Queen-mw9wp TY! I'm still disappointed in how it all went down & how the show played Van overall. Bunch of haters.
@@kgsunshine Me too!! And yes they were haters but out of them all she’s the star that shines the brightest! One door shut but oh so many others opened and she and her gifts had the final say!!
@@Queen-mw9wp SO MANY doors! 🙌🏾
Great idea. Anything to get them working together again. I'm not giving up my dream of Jovan on GH though.
9.12.12
Hi, My Name is Pebbles and I am a #JOVAN addict #addictedsince2004
Girl it’s 2022 and I’m addicted. I watched OLTL back in the day!
John may have loved Nat or thought he loved her but John was in love Evangeline.He was afraid of the love he had for Vange.I think John loved Vange just as much as he loved Catilin.That scared him and She died and i think he was afraid to let go.He show his love in so many ways but wouldn't say it.
I wish we saw more clips of Caitlin with John, I’ve been trying to find full episodes of oltl all through 2004 lol
That would be the stuff right there cause the song describes them perfectly.
After all the years that I have been watching soaps I've never seen a storyline quite like this. A man on a soap that can't tell a woman he loves her but enacts every action that demonstrates that he does. Soaps normally had the men professing their love all the time. No way in hell would a man give up a woman like Evangeline and then turn around and profess love to a immature hateful, jealous, rude, less attractive, less intelligent chic. Not even in an alternate dimension does this crap happen.
Lol.. Well said..
Ok damn it; now that One Life will be back, it's time to cut all this nonsense and get Michael and Renee back on *together*. John and gNatalie have had their time (and time again...and again). It's time for that to be over...completely. They can share a child without having to be together.
It's time to correct the mistake made by ending Jovan. Get Renee back on OLTL so Jovan can finally reunite. 3.10.13
@girlmich12 Hahah, I noticed that too! He is always running after her!
I think the writers thought their idea of John being with Nat was going to be well recieved and they would have crazy chemistry, and they didn't care what us the fans thought. So they wanted John and Nat together regardless of the explosive chemistry that John and Evangeline had. So they stuck to their guns and so did we, and THAT'S why they are rightfully cancled. Maybe GH or some other soap will pick up ME/REG and give them a great S/L.
I love that idea and it is soo true they do remind me of Jovan.
what a letdown...... the writers got John doing and saying all kinda serious shit to Van...... like the string attached, giving Her the pearls for Her bday, that He wanna be with Her yesterday, today and tomorrow, don't want the break up, don't give up on Him, getting all emotional, did everything a BF would do for/with Her and then turn around and break Her heart.....It dont make sense....that part of the s/l was written sucks.......The thing is this character John don't seem the type that He would say or do something like that......cz that's so cold telling Her all that and not meant it..... This John had mad love for Van and the way the THNIC squashed it is beyond belief so they could hook Him up with Nattrap......smh......6/2024
Evangeline loves Her some rough neck......She's willing to go all the way with this Man if He wants Her the way She loves and wants Him.......But She wants to hear it from His lips the word "LOVE" which is important to Her and stay in their relationship...... Girl, take what u can get its just U and Him.......But the writers r taking it in a diff direction...... they can't take the heat that these two put out on display and they just talking here......Love how He reacts when She's shuts Him down. He talks to Her hair......1/2024😍
Because John was in love with Vange. Why would they aloud that between them happen then brake them up crazy.Hope RE come back this year and JoVan come back to life.
It was the stupid writers!!!!!! I don't know why they kept trying to present the fraud that was John and Nat. Every time they tried to put those two together, the viewership fell. You would think that someone would get a clue. I also notice their wedding/paternity SL was a flop, so they abandoned it and when the two Todds SL made made viewership rise, the writers tried to slip in the couple only to have the it fall again.
I luv the idea but you'd probably be better off suggesting the 2 of them on another network, because clearly ABC doesn't like color or IR couples on their network. Which is why I stopped watching. I too would luv for ME and REG to be back together again on TV but I won't hold my breath. Besides I don't think ME will be going back to NY for good especially since he just sold his condo (in NY) and moved to LA for GH and his other passions.
@keena20071987 No..... he never tells her that he loves her. Even though we all so differently, by his actions.
i'M LIKE U I BELIEVE John loved Nat but fell in love with Vange.He was afraid to let his self go for as telling her so. He try when he with to her place after the brake up but couldn't get his word right.Wasn't his fault writers and producer wouldn't let him say the words.ME said he wanted John to say he loved her to.
Well there goes that. I had no idea he relocated to LA, but it makes sense though. I know with Renee doing broadway and being rooted in Harlem, I shouldn't expect to see her on GH, but I can't help but hope.
For my sanity, I have got to stop watching these clips. 9.6.12
Exactly. He loved Nat. I won't deny it. But Van frightened him. His esteem and his torture wouldn't allow him to love her.
He should have made it clear to KNATaLIE that Evangeline was more important! I hate the way he played her.
Ok so does John ever get to a point where he say the words to Evangeline?? Sorry I know this is super late, but I got sucked into this show on youtube and now I want to know how it ends up lol
yes he did he didn't tell her everything so he lied.
@keena20071987 yes but it was in a dream and of course Natalie was in the dream too.