Why is Windows Display Scaling So Bad?
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2018
- Have you ever noticed how Windows can make things look blurry and improperly sized, especially if you're using multiple monitors? Why is this?
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Close to 4 years have passed since this video, and Windows 11 still continues to have scaling issues.
Yep. It's why I came to watch this. I want to figure out why Windows STILL looks like 🐕💩 when compared even to "free" Linux distros like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, or KDE Plasma let alone macOS.
Yup, my windows 10 is updated and STILL has issues.
Microsoft is a useless company.
@@redpillsatori3020 Fractional scaling on Linux is even worse... if only it was as good as windows. Wayland doesn't support it. Gnome doesn't support it. It only works on KDE with xorg. But then I plug in another monitor that I want with a different scale and it doesn't work...
@@redpillsatori3020 lol that's what I like about the linux community: Being a paranoid extremist who hates everybody else if they don't use his dogpoop 0% marketshare os
So true.. literally almost 5 Years now and that issue still exists.. mind blowing
did windows just assume my monitor?
O O F
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*THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL RESOLUTION*
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It still looks stupid in 2019, an FHD 15.6 laptop with 125% scaling still shows blurry elements
If you're using standard scaling, yes, you're right. I'm using custom scaling (125%) on my 15.6" laptop and it's actually pretty good. I don't remember when was the last time I saw a blurry window, so it's not that bad.
@@kosodrzewina3903 depends in which software you typically use though
My QHD 15.6 with recommended 250% scaling looks crisp.
@@kosodrzewina3903 lol we do the same trick
@@StankLip From what I read, your 15.6" would then be like using a 39" screen (250% scaling) and therefore, based on your resolution (QHD), the resulting PPI is just 75.31, down from 188.28 (if not scaled). So I am surprised it would be anywhere near QHD quality.
As a developer I can say with experience I have spent hours and wrote pages of code just to make my app display correctly on different size screens
@Benji Asperheim Last time I checked Linux handled (fractional) scaling even worse. I can't comment on macOS.
@@GergiH I just watched a vid complaining about macOS either working with 110 ppi or 220ppi. The rest is done with rendering insane resolutions and downscaling, which sucks for performance. That's why I, a windows user came to this video to see whether windows is better.
Especially on Windows Forms.
Does Tunnelbear properly scale between monitors?
In that case, maybe I should really get it 🤔
You know there’s a problem with your advertising when your ad takes up more of the video than the actual explanation.
What about Yogi Bear being able to properly scale between monitors ?
@@Br0adCastYourS3lf The Ranger didn't like it when he found out, Yogi.
That Jibo shirt tho
seeing what they made by selling that fucker I ain't surprised
It actually looks really sharp... ;-)
Lol, and after he said crap about it.
Yea that’s what i was thinking, he just said it’s a terrible product and is now advertising it
Hes wearing it ironically
Finally someone explained what is going on. Well done! You have saved my sanity. Meanwhile Windows? What a total disaster of an operation.
"desktop watermark does not scale" ok linus
Well, that's a good thing. It means the watermark stays small.
Whats up with the jibo shirt?
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I'm amazed how many times its worn
he lost a bet so has to wear it for all time ...jk idk
It's going to get memed into popularity.
exactly so why?
So how can the FBI enhance on a photo without it getting blurry?
belleepoque777 The Illuminati
blackscatter mirror using di-single optimalized stability rendering, basically they re-generate the image from the side of whats looking at the camera using higher res, and then retake the image using the view port that the original camera would have had, its simple math that they teach kindergarden kids in asia.
belleepoque777 Movies are B.S.
Simon Johnny r/iamverysmart
Simon Johnny Do you work for the FBI?
You know what pisses me off? That sometimes when I change the resolution, Windows just changes the scaling, and tells me the resolution was changed.
Wtf really?
What weed are they smoking?
@I will steal your potatoes Give me back my potatoes, I'm supposed to make fries today!
@I will steal your potatoes You know, I never did make those fries yesterday..
@I will steal your potatoes Ha! Joke's on you. They were going to be baked. Although if you deep fry them, try a slice or two of onion added in to the fryer for spice.
@@BaronVonQuiply tf are you doing
I honestly didn't gain anything from this video.
Don't worry, it's you, not the video. Bahaha
@@rolandbion9510 nah, it's the video
That's good, actually. Your apps scale fine, or you don't have a 4K or higher display. This video will have a lot of gains for you once you hit that ONE application that renders 'fuzzy' or has jagged lines. I work in an industry that has a lot of quirky applications. The frame buffer can get very finicky if you render bitmaps when scaling.
lol right, tell me everything i already know except for how to fix the problem
@@acenorth7225 ?? This video was about explaining the issue not about how to fix it
maybe linus got sued for making a bad video on the jibo an they settled for this tshirt
No he just secretly loves the thing
my guess is they shot this video a while back when he first reviewed it?
Or Jibo pulled a #Thermalfake.
This is the exact reason why I bought a laptop with a 1080p display. I used to have an Acer laptop with a 4k screen like 4 years ago. At that time plugging in an external monitor was literally impossible and caused so many scaling issue that I decided to change the resolution to 1080p (on my 4k screen).
Finally a Techie that gets to the point quickly and give you phenomenal cliff notes versions of solutions.
Why is Windows display scaling so bad? Because: Windows
Turbo Charged are you a windows fanboy I like all of them
@Turbo Charged You sound like someone who's never used linux before
@Turbo Charged I do use Windows, in a VM. But my bare hardware only gets to be touched by the glorious chad GNU/Linux. I don't have time to deal with a Malware\Windows peasant, as my kernel needs recompiling. You can choose to ascend to Chad\Linux or stick with Micro$oft's ATM\Operating System.
@Turbo Charged As much as I could debunk your claims with enough evidence that even your uninformed mind could comprehend that Linux is better, I don't have time to deal with the cancerous garbage that you call a point.
I will say one thing though. RTFM. It helps even the most novice of users with anything on any OS.
@Turbo Charged Shame on you! Stop acting like a 5 year old! You actually need to have some knowledge to use linux fyi. Attacking other people because of their OS preference... Damn that is so childish.
So I guess the next logical episode is an explanation to why macOS scales so well.
BBBBBut does it :/? It changes resolution why scaling unfortunately to the HIDPI resolution divided by 2. Yes it scales correctly, but some loss of clarity is unavoidable with high ppi screens. But UI elements will look smooth always.
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Nick Tsif I'm pretty sure this is his channel too 😂
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This is one of the reasons I have my office monitor, but the silver lining for me is that some of the applications I use are razor sharp on the bigger monitor and vice versa, hence I just mix and match my way outta it. But great explaining it, I never knew why it did that.
Not an Apple fanboy but they've got their display scaling done right
uhh nope
linux is a kernel
still, when I use windows in mac's bootcamp, the scaling is a mess
@@ututkusumadhata9602
Doh?
Windows scaling = terrible
MacOS scaling = wonderful
No matter what hardware you use it on.
Because Mac OS always used vector based graphics, while Windows uses bitmap.
Was totally expecting a Synergy sponsor for this video :p
The real key here is to have two monitors that have the same dimensions and resolutions, for example if your original monitor is, a 21" monitor that has 1680x1050 resolution, then you should add a second monitor that is also 21" and has 1680x1050 resolution. Stuff will then easily move from one to the other, without issues.
I was having this problem with reading comics on my new Surface Pro tablet. The comic pages were literally exactly the same size as a physical comic book page, however, the pages were horribly pixelated. I had to use Compatibility settings to shut off the automatic scaling, which made it look much better.
Windows needs a complete rewrite, like Mac OS X vs Mac OS 9.
The worldwide economy skipped a few heartbeats reading your comment.
PS: I agree with you, it just I can't imagine any company pulling off that kind of huge conversion in an organized manner.
don't give microsoft another reason to try to kill win32 apps
Well, Windows 10 WAS a complete rewrite into a modular system
Microsoft did this before Apple. The old Windows based on DOS (up to Windows Me). Windows XP was the first consumer Windows based on the NT line. And NT is a modern OS.
@erik masterchef It was actually. Wheres your source?
Meanwhile you can install a program called "Windows10 DPI Fix"
Annnd have all your data stolen by some chinese guy
@@prodbyfaith you dont think there is already some chinese guy working for microsoft doing the same thing? ;-P
@@prodbyfaith cicciogamer89 x tutta la vita
Two years I've struggled with the sizing issue on a sweet laptop with a high def display. Thank you for this tip.
I have three monitors connected, all with the same resolution, but one is a big tv screen. On Windows 8.1 for some reason whenever i moved a window to the bigger screen, the automatically chosen solution was to scale the window up, making text bigger aswell as pictures.
It was quite the tedium to find the right settings so that it stopped doing that aswell getting rid of the blurriness.
It's really ridiculous to me how people in MS can be working on all kinds of new stuff, "enhancements" and updates while such simple and basic stuff like scaling is not taken care of. I'm using two displays, one is 4k another one 1920x1200, I have to sign out and sign in again every time windows starts, as if turning my pc on or resetting is not enough. If I don't do that the scaling settings I want to use are ignored. The worst thing about it tho is that nobody in Microsoft gives a flying f*** about it... We're on our own.
you may be able to get around that issue by disabling "use my sign-in info to finish setting up devices after a restart" in settings -> user -> sign-in options
in fact that option is causing a lot of issues, that make me wonder why is it enabled by default in the first place
Cvolton thanks! I'll give it a try
It's similar to the whole "Google doesn't know how to draw hamburger emojis" fiasco of a couple months ago.
It's beyond comprehension how some companies play with time travel at the forefront but are somehow unable to cut the grass at their backyard.
Sometimes i wonder if MS's programmers use W10 or not, because W10 feels like it's made after a checklist instead of to make things easier/better/faster for the users in the long run
Example:
In Ubuntu, if you point at the volume icon and scroll with your mouse, _the volume changes,_ that feels like a "i want" feature, not a "modern design" feature
That was MS's whole plan with W10: Bury the dumpster fire that was W8 as quickly and inefficiently as possible, then hold everything together with duct tape and Bondo.
Search windows 10 dpi fix
Thats the namw of the app lol
It uses windows 8.1 's dpi scaling
And everything just works like magic
This.
Dude thank you so much. God bless u man :)
Thank you so much! I had been dealing with a stubborn game window that was taking up a monitor and a half- now I can play again!
My greatest annoyance with a multi-monitor setup running Win 10 is that it simply cannot remember the positions of windows. Most new windows open at random places (sometimes even off screen). Any tips on this? I’ve had no resolution/scaling issues though with my multi-montitor, multi-res config.
With so many LTT employees having multiple screens it is amazing that the only things you recommend is "log off and log back on" and check the properties tab. Surely there must be something better out there to combat this issue.
Goran Vujovic sell your liver and buy all monitors in batch, same resolution, same size, no problem.
Everyone seems to be recommending Macs and Linux as the solution. Cause Micro$oft is like "Do we _have_ to fix it? I know, let s just release _incremental_ fixes." 03:30
Yeah. Use multiple screens in VR.
Why can't these elements be vector based?
Because of Microsoft.
Because in the bad old days it wasn't necessary, and speed was more important than scaling.
Fast forward and the hardware got powerful enough to support vector graphics at a speed that's acceptable and there were tens of thousands of programs written for the old model that would break in all matters of horrible ways if the OS suddenly would require everything to use vectors. And as there really wasn't that many really high DPI displays there wasn't many who thought it was important enough to worry about. So MS stuck their head in the sand and hoped for the best.
And then truly high DPI displays came about at reasonable prices...
MS has been working on the scaling, but compared to other operating systems they have far more baggage in the form of old software that people rely on to make a living. There are software using all kinds of weird tricks such as calling up menus and dialogs at coordinates far out from the areas you see on screen, and forcing pointer coordinates so they can "click" on buttons and select text fields to enter parameters while nothing is shown on screen where the user can see what the program is doing. Make to much changes to how the coordinate system works and things like that will break.
The tile whatever system with apps is however new and should not come with any baggage in the form of archaic calls to strange panels and dialogs that hasn't been officially supported since Win3.11, and as such those apps should be much better at scaling. Don't know how true that is though as I absolutely hate that GUI and do my best to avoid seeing or using it.
Pixel based was the legacy way and it stayed for long because it's only now that high DPI are mainstream.
Ryan Martin at least they should make the bloody text vector based. It's not like the applications giving bitmaps for texts. Sure icons might be blurry but it's just incredibly ugly and stupid to make that behavior the same on texts too
Well, it wasn't just slow in the past, it was VERY slow.
Like, a computer design from 1979 can render a 320x192 image, but I wouldn't count on it to draw more than maybe 1-2000 polygons in a second if you're extremely lucky, and even that's only if you can devote just about the entire CPU time of your system to drawing graphics, and nothing else. (in case you're wondering why that's relevant; vector graphics are 2d, but based on the same principles, and can in fact be even more complex shapes.)
Now imagine that you want the UI to be somewhat responsive; So... You're going to want to keep graphics performance at something reasonable, like, 20 fps at a minimum.
That means you're looking at between 300-600 vector elements onscreen at once. But everything is a vector; your window, all the buttons, the icons on those buttons, the text onscreen. (every letter when drawn using vectors would be a fairly complex shape, probably a 20 sided polygon or more.)
You quickly run out of performance, and your framerate tanks, and everything becomes really unresponsive.
And keep in mind you can only draw those 3-600 vectors if you're not doing anything else!
In other words, the computer can't actually be computing anything!
So... Performance is an understatement. And while computers did get more powerful into the 90's....
You're probably talking 1995, 1996 before they had enough power to be able to do vector graphics at a decent speed.
By 2000ish you had decently powerful capabilities to do vector graphics. (conceptually, vector graphics and 3d rendering have a lot of overlap, and by that point you had systems that could draw many millions of polygons a second, which translates to being able to do 2d vector graphics at high speed as well.)
Windows of course, by the year 2000 already had huge amounts of legacy code to deal with.
Mac OS did too to some extent, but apple simply didn't care as much about breaking old software, and had more control over their hardware and software ecosystem as well, so things were more predictable.
Linus, you truly do the best tech videos around!!
Almost end of 2021 yet we are still here 🙄
I don't currently have a second monitor, but this is good to know if I change that, or I have to deal with one of those friends you mentioned.
Cars Simplified Always get the same model. Not only scaling, matching color and white point can be problematic if you use two different displays.
I have 2 monitors and connect my TV to the pc for films etc, and I have never had any issues on Win7 - sounds like this could be more of a windows 10 issue
I have multiple systems that have multiple monitors. Macs & Linux work well. Windows is just garbage.
it's mostly a issue of large DPI differences. I use a shitty old dell as my second monitor, it's dpi is similar enough to my 32" 1080p screen that i don't notice any real issues (the secondary monitor is smaller, but also has a lower resolution)
If you try to run a 4k 30" display beside a 1080p one, your likely going to have issues
Also if your main display is (like mine) 4K... there are some programs that don't play nice with scaling, so those tips are helpful for this.
Why do Mac and Linux work so well with high pixel count monitors, yet Microsoft, a company who owns well over 50% of the PC market, can't?
Microsoft once owned well over 90% of the market. That decline ought to tell them, and Windows users, something.
Windows is still 85%. And, its growing again starting this year.
they dont....
they have the same exect problem...
Christopher Banacka except they solve way better.
I'm using a 2014 Macbook with a 1440 x 900 (scaled retina) resolution.
It's connected to a Dell U3415W 34" widescreen with a resolution of 3840 x 1440 and a Dell U2713HM with a resolution of 2560 x 1440. Never had any scaling problems. Everything looks always sharp on each screen.
Connecting my HP Zbook....the scaling problems begin ;)
I love blender's options for scaling. Not only can you change the size of each panel to your liking with your mouse, you can change the size of other elements on the user settings, it's simply wonderful.
I just goddamn hate using a program and having to click with pin-point accuracy, say, a vector handle. I mean, Jesus, I'm not even running an full HD monitor, mine is just 1600x900, and illustrator is a pain in the ass to use.
2022 and there's still so many bugs with scaling between different sized monitors.
VHS As Fast as Possible?
"Outdated."
I love how many Jibo shirts you have considering your review destroyed them xD
Solution:
12-13 inches - buy 2560 screen and set scalling to 200% or buy 1366 screen and no scalling (probably TN only)
14-16 inches - buy 2880 screen and set scalling to 200% or buy 1366 screen and no scalling (probably TN only)
17 inches - buy 2880 or 3200 screen and set scalling to 200% or buy 1600 screen and no scalling (probably TN only)
23-27 inches - buy 4K screen and set scalling to 200% or buy FHD and no scalling
ultra wide up to 34 - buy 2560x1440 screen and do not use scalling
Other screens and resolutions - you probably have to use scaling between 101 and 199, and it would look bad.
I use three different displays (2160p, 1080p and 1680x1150).
I run the two low resolution screens at their native resolution and the UHD one at simulated 1440p which results in everything being the right size but much sharper than on the other displays. Dragging programs between the displays is no problem either and all of that on an old Mac Pro from 2009 with an old macOS from 2015.
That Jibo shirt though.
I'd wear it ironically too if they had it in white.
MAN, WINDOWS 12 IS ALMOST HERE AND THIS IS STILL A PROBLEM
Wow how appropriate I stumbled across this video casually when I just learned all these issues a couple hours ago
just got a 34in 1440p monitor and scaling is set to 150% its perfectly clear at all levels
Here we are in 2019 and I still have to use a 3rd party editor to change my font size every time windows updates.
Good video, you've earned anther ear ring.
been dealing with this garbage forever and didn't know about the high DPI settings, thank you
When you get this all of a sudden but have a single 1080p monitor.......
When you have a 5 inch 720p screen and get this
When you are in your car turning the radio knob and all of a sudden get this :o
Personally I have the exact opposite problem when connecting my qHD laptop with external monitors. On windows the majority of the applications reacts properly. The only one that gave me trouble was Eclipse, but... You know... Java...
I'm a TA and every time I connected to a projector Windows reacts in a predictable and acceptable way, you should see my colleagues with OS X or Linux... Every single time they enter in class they need to start messing around the configuration panel and hope to find a good tradeoff.
Differently Linux is a nightmare, practically no application scales properly and even the mouse pointer doesn't react properly.
Wayland+Gnome after a hackaton last year finaly made it, on Ubuntu 17.10 it works, but I'll need to wait for Ubunti 18.04 to use it in a LTS.
you haven't tried all the programs on earth bro, one example that i use everyday is Mendeley. can't believe such a modern application couldn't keep up with hidpi. such a shame
All general scaling algorithms blur the image except Nearest Neighbor which is also the simplest.
I bet some engineer at Microsoft is overthinking it a ton.
Got my pc hooked up to a 48inch 4K tv and have been loving it. It’s basically like having multiple screens (4x24 inch displays), except that I can make certain programs larger than others, where I want it.
Very good, you have addressed the problem very well
What distro are people using that their scaling works fine on Linux!? jfc I have a 4k display on my laptop and tried Ubuntu 17.10 & 16.10 and the scaling is complete garbage. Many applications were flat out unusable. The OS had no option to change scaling behavior/percentage based on what app it is, only a static system-wide zoom (and yes I asked on the forums to make sure there wasn't the option hidden away somewhere). So any programs that weren't created with proper dpi scaling in mind (crazy common, even for Linux applications, especially for older ones) were either
A: Freakishly tiny, making them unreadable
B: Super blurry
or C: Super blurry with some elements like buttons getting clipped at the edges of the window or getting smooshed together, meaning important things were literally unclickable.
At least Windows 10 gives the option to change how zoom is handled with every different application! Stop pimping linux when it's not handled well there either.
So true. Linux is an utter garbage when it comes to HiDPI. Seriously, for the first time in my life I must give Apple some credit, at least their desktop looks like it is supposed to, not like a total blurry/stretched/too small mess of Linux/Windows.
You mean the DE not the distro. KDE can scale perfectly. I use Kubuntu as my daily driver on a Full HD screen. Force Font DPI to 120 and it works great for me. Even the window icons scale along with the text since KDE uses SVGs. To be fair KDE has a scaling option but I've had mixed results with it on fractional scaling so I simply went for font DPI instead. Also, Unity can scale quite well. I've used Ubuntu 16.04 without any issues on FHD.
Kde and gnome scale fine but you cant have different scaling settings on two different monitors
Works just fine with KDE on Fedora
My 1st generation 15 inch retina MacBook Pro had this issue... Back in 2012, and that was just when i first got the thing, but all the kinks were ironed out after a month or two, it's been almost 6 years and Microsoft is still behind on this, i love pc building and the pc gaming community but Microsoft and windows are genuinely garbage when it comes to keeping up with hardware, listening to customers and optimization
I remember Apple said they are shipping their Macs with Lion but users can upgrade them to Mountain Lion for free shortly.
I have the 2012 mbpr and I don’t have any issues.
iFone Fan, Yeah because apple fixed the issues almost immediately, which is amazing, but Microsoft put in zero effort
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But in my Mac Pro mid 2012 with 4K display I have problem. The resolution is 3840x2160 but "looks like 1920x1080". The graphic card has support for 4K. You can manually choose 3840x2160 but then everything becomes incredibly tiny, impossible to have it so. MacOS doesn't seem to be any better...
Helpful as always
I first encountered this back in 2013 when I found the computer industry changed screen resolutions on me from 1200 to 1080. My Alienware laptop was 1920x1200 and I got a new monitor to replace an ailing external monitor, and lo and behold it didn't work. Now I get a few of the other reasons why beyond just the resolution change.
I've been using 2 screens since 2005 but dropped it earlier this year to increase productivity. No more distracting emails or social media, just focused on the present task. As a result, no more scaling issues!
PS I think it's been pretty good - it's only a problem when you have half of an application on one screen (Surface @work, 200%) and on a fHD display with 100% settings. Screenshots can also be fun but otherwise it hasn't been a big issue for me since Windows 8.1
Why do I feel like this is the result of Taran's struggle with and rant about the scrolling bug?
I haven't seen that bit, but I have a problem with Steam, after setting scaling up on Win7 it only will scroll in the upper left 1/4 of the screen like the app still thinks it's that size, and it's annoying as hell. I feel Taran's pain if he's had similar issues.
dude, I am fairly new at this cs programming and design development, say 4-6 months..Since, last fall...and after passing over some truly good themes and framework layout and design software packages, I just now figured out that my problem all along was not necessarily the 3rd party programming I was looking to partner with and utilize, but rather, my optimal pixelation about my hardware display. Although, as u said, perhaps, the programmers should play a little catch-up and plan for this, it basically boils down to a pack of standardization..Which, I now can truly see is the label by which most all of the complication about C. S. and design can be attributed. Sure, learning the mastery of all of the componentry and variables, including the exact details of one specific programming language, would indeed be quite difficult. Meanwhile, considering the variety of hardware, software written format using any choice of languages, and also, the inclusion of open source contribution, in all, lends to an impossibly overwhelming challenge to overcome. For me, it is simply what makes the science of computers so difficult and discouraging and could benefit by having some degree of unified oversight or governance standards to somewhat standardize the science. In my example, whereafter 100s of hours of painstaking learning, design, troubleshoot-repeat over again and a time, may have been thoroughly recommend reduced and advancing my learning, understanding and development objective. I should not have to engage the field, even though independent and without the benefit of understudy, mentoring, or peer support-except utilizing the vast web resource; still yet, to have engaged the field with such a mad obsession and determination while still only in this moment realizing my greatest barrier specifically was due to compatibility between hardware display pixelation and the configurations set out within the theme programs and related software packages. What is more troubling is how my CMS platform did not indicate any problem with that as the platform software displayed absolutely perfect and does so in spite of any choice of configurations upon my behalf. The problems are only revealed using any particular choice in theme or applicative software model, including: plugin packages, framework and layout design instrument, and others similarly. I started to take notice that this could be my issue whenever I noticed how theme templates offer various page layouts such as wide vs block vs grid vs full width. I even started to see some optimal themes dedicate some configuration options regarding display width. Then, recently having to utilize Gutenberg blocks in WordPress, I understood from also, trial and error, that a huge difference in layout templating was between flex and block grid based design templating. I was having an issue with the flex design in terms of the application of inserting columns and how when using flex-full width, and also relative to having a blank page or sidebar template, the insertion of a section block or column block would simply span the entire scope of the page height, even the aspect of the page located below and off screen display. configuring my template theme back to a grid base block package certified the problem, and allowed me to govern the block-columnn size, and also revealing "white" space unnacounted for by my block sections, sidebar, header, footer, toolbar, and my background and borders. The white space existed because my hardware pixelation out contrasted the theme design template consideration. All of which, problems are now solved by adjusting my hardware display. I had adjusted once before without fully understanding what was going on and upon questioning one particular designer, he simply backed his design and was not fully aware of the scope of the problem. I told him what I now understand to be the resolve to the issue and that is: Since sizing is fundamental to any aspect of design wether one is designing a house, tool, software, or any other application, it seems plausible and expected to have to consider options to manage such settings related to sizing. It should be considered making the first aspects of design. The hardware componentry should match the software and the user should be able to configure settings to match accordingly. First, software should explicily broadcast it's ideal sizing for its layouts, and then perhaps, offer specific adjustments to coordinate the sizes. If this is unmanageable, at least by broadcasting, the user could look for alternatives to suit the theme or layout sizing parameters such as adjusting the hardware componentry display to match the software. Sizing is fundamental and should be at the forefront in planning and building software for use among such a broad scope of users implanting a multitude of open source software and any combination of tooling of choice by the engineer or general user. So, that the experience developing or user engagement is optimized. I am using WordPress and as of now, the minimal dark theme and am seeing signs that I will be abke to complete my design for public accessible hosting sometime soon, after months of dealing with sizing variability. A couple of themes that did try to deal with the issue of sizing was Oceanwp and the Virtue theme. While both could be nearly fitted without hardware adjustments, they fell from my application due to other conflicts about my design, but did anticipate a size configuration in thier options for design. Anyway, thanks for this video...It cleared up many things for me...with respect..TruloveLiaison
been watching your videos for quite a while. no clue why i never subscribed but this one officially did it for me. you are a god among men.
This is one of the reasons I removed bootcamp from my mac, the scaling in Windows is inferior to the one that has been found in macOS for years. A lot of programs were simply unusable because of the scaling issue.
Jibo just got some free advertising
*chance nicely*
The celery will be wrapped with hair and wear no gloves.
who says it was free
*Mayo taizou*
Clean walnut spiders, that's who.
Dude, you are my hero. Finally TeamSpeak 3 is scaled properly.
You do such a good Job at getting right to the Point. You just saved me from having to by a Higher resolution Monitor. When I open Microsoft word it was gigantic on my lower resolution Monitor after building this new system. I solved it by going to View on the Top Menu Bar and Clicked on Zoom and adjusted it to my Liking. Thank you.
Love my 2 4K screens at home.. on my Mac. Everything works beautifully. I tried taking a 4K screen to the office (Windows 10) but eventually brought it home because it was an awful experience. I chose 2 24" meh 1080P screens over 1 27" 4K screen - that's sad.
Got a similar reason to go for 2 smaller displays. Besides possible scaling issues, it is less taxing running games on a smaller resolution.
Not just with 4k displays or multiple displays but people who need more than just 100% scaling Remoting from Windows 7 into an RDS 2016 server the local DPI settings are not copied over to the server session like they should be... So many problems you wouldn't believe you were in 2018
This video helped me properly scale my Age of Empires HD UI for my living room setup. Now it doesn't have to sit in my Steam library collecting virtual dust. Thanks Linus.
I had a bug for days since I got a new TV. Logging out simply fixed this.. tyvm
This is such a frustrating thing. Plus, apparently Windows 10 removed any support for < 96 dpi screens, which means Windows thinks my 13 inch laptop and 42 inch external displays (both 1440p) are the exact same physical size!!! What a shitshow! Mac OS had this figured out years ago. Why is it so hard?
gizmoguyar because Windows10 is a piece of crap
Eugene InLaw fuck off
To be fair here - it might just as well be that either your external display or your laptop are reporting garbage to the OS. You should double check using a Linux Live distribution for example.
gizmoguyar because Mac OS has a lot less applications then Windows especially when it comes to gaming and more than just one developer makes applications for Windows
Check what the EDID informations of both screens report. Besides the colorspace it also reports the size of the screen, both the amount of pixels and the physical size.
Looks at my set of CRTs connected to my win 95
AMAZING VIDEO thx a lot, now I understand what happens
Major Thumbs up the application specific fix!!!!! thanks!!!!
sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of *linux*
Yeah, scaling is soo much better on Ubuntu for me
Yeah, try to connect 24" 1080p to 15.6" 4k while saving scaling on either of them, xorg will shit himself and die
Name me a DE that properly scales a 3K 14 inch display, while keeping all the UI elements the correct size. The closest I've gotten is using GNOME with increased font size, but it's not even close to the way macOS handles HiDPI displays and scaling.
@@lucamateipintilie7006 i am new user on Linux cinnamon 19 now 2 days I already know how to do all that. I never learned that in windows. Windows are more busy watching you and bombard you with software updates that never works. No more windows for me
@@blaziken7673 like 2 commands in the terminal and it's done. But ight
Mcdonalds don't do all day breakfast here in the UK, they must still be broken
Running Windows 10 on a 5k display presents the following options.
1) 1920 x 1080 with a 100% scale and layout - blurry text, everything else is perfect
2) 5120 x 2880 with a 300% scale and layout - sharp text, programs randomly crashing, lag, windows displaying wrong, screen prints messed up, old programs not working quite right with a slightly messed up display.
The worse is custom scaling, you can set it on whichever percentage you like, but it locks that into ALL screens, as opposed to the predefined choices, which apply on a screen basis
5:21 LOL!! so true tho
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Is linus working on the new Jibo 2.0?
3 years later and nothing changed.
Another issue in Windows is that 200% isn't dubling the height and width. Logically at 100% 1080p, an item should be the same size as 200% 2160p, but not in Windows. Somehow it is slightly off.
5:22 - And yet.... No All Day Breakfast in England -_-
Yep, can confirm that. A country where one of the main known foods is Breakfast, should have it all day. My first meal is usually 1-2pm, so I never had the chance to try it...
Back in my day, we just bought 2 of the same monitor models.
That works if you don't have a 4k display. Especially on a laptop.
3 mil techquickie special
Wich algorithm does Windows use for the scaling of program layouts?
Of course, Apple's solution was much better. Just make all of the drawing and widget APIs on the system take virtual pixels. It's why they have far fewer pixel scaling issues. Apple also pushed hard for CSS's "px" unit to be defined in virtual pixels so that browsers could scale site layouts in the same manner. And then Google did the same in Android with the "dip" (Device Independent Pixel) unit.
AFAIK the "System Enhanced" scaling mode is roughly the same solution, but no application I've tried it on is smart enough to hand high-res bitmaps to what they think is a low-res display. And at this point, the damage has already been done on Windows; UI programming on the OS is already a total pain and a half.
Unless you use Windows Store, though. Then you can just use native-code XAML and bypass all these problems
are u supporting crapple
@@kyrandm6045 What are you hating on for? For having better display scaling?
Ironically, the scaling on the Surface Pro 4 makes it almost unusable, when attached to a 1080p screen.
I cannot put into words how disappointed I am by that.
So, Microsoft cannot fix Windows even on their own hardware... round of applause.
Samsung Galaxy Note8 does the same thing on certain apps, especially the Google Play Store where text looks blurry but once you go into the home screen, the display looks amazing! It’s a software optimization issue, devs need to update it.
I am on a brand new , 3 days old Surface Pro 7. I traded in the first surface pro 7 because I was told the issues I had with it indicated that it was a lemon. This surface pro 7 worked OK for about an hour. Then froze, required update & restart, & then font went from almost as good as on other computers to blurry light gray font on a blurry mottled, with mottles moving, lighter gray background. Font sizes were often too small to read comfortably in addition to being faint. I tried clear type, increased magnification from recommended 200 to 225, went into advanced preferences & slightly increased font size, which made some icons & fonts larger, not clearer. Meanwhile I saw an article saying that some updates have been problematic & reading that I should update to windows 2004, which aparantly is one version more current than what I have on my surface pro 7. I also read that thee surface pro 7 uses PWM, but only below a 25% brightness. I get eye strain after 10 minutes of trying to read. I purchased this as my only computer. Is there a way to use Word & Excel with speed & precisions, & do research online & read on it, 60 productive hours a week without getting migraines & eye strain? Aparantly this has been a surface pro issue since at least surface pro 3. What budget light laptop with a touch scree should I get instead if the Surface Pro 7 can't be improved? Until a month ago I wason a 13.3" Dell inspiron with zero screen problems. it was 2 years old & died. But the screen clarity was never an issue. Would rather keep the surface pro 7 if I can. but not at the price of eyes, health & productivity. Any ideas? THANKS:)
In 2020 they still haven’t fixed this issue
4:04 a potential solution
6 years later, Windows scaling still sucks and McDonalds UK still doesn't do all day breakfast!
I have a button on my stream deck to kill explorer, seems to work nicely after I switch from my TV or laptop screen
Yet it has been perfect on Mac since they released the first retina display Mac.
i have a very extreme case of bad scaling, Monitor 1 3840x2160 monitor 2 1280x1024
TheColonelK1LL ouch, I would honestly ditch the second monitor, I don’t know your budget but a second 1920/1080 monitor would be a nice purchase.
Ninja1inblack monitor 1 2560x1440 monitor 2 1920x1080 monitor 3 1400x900
Ok seriously, you cant get a 1080p monitor? They are dirt cheap nowadays, you can even get a used one to save money if that is your issue.
4 years later and windows still hasn’t figured it out..
Here in March 2022, the issue still persists in Windows 11.