Oddly enough, having played magic for five years now it is easy for me to rewatch Iyanaga play and appreciate the consideration he puts forth. Compared to the magic I watched this year at worlds, Iyanaga played better than basically everyone except for Chapin - I do not believe, after revisiting this, that he was playing exceptionally slow like most of the comments lean towards, he just didn't make a single mistake in any of the three games. Thank you Iyanaga for exemplary magic.
No he was egregiously dragging the game out. Game 2 the turn he used the GSZ to get Viridian corrupted he had a very binary choice: hold it for a titan or get corrupter. The latter deals with a creature that would likely not be as vulnerable the next turn and and he had more than enough pressure from titan he already had in hand. This was not a decision that required a minute of thinking and a judge intervention
You can google something like "Current Magic Formats" or something like that and you will most likely get linked to the Wizards website, which will give you a lot more information for what you're looking for. The main formats right now are Standard (Type 2), Legacy, Vintage, Modern, and Block. You'll most likely want to look into playing Standard.
@naejin this is true, i am new to this game and though the trend seems to be control or token decks i am trying out a red-green werewolf deck. suggestions on how to get cards for this deck?
I love 53:35 when Colony is facepalming and the background is zooming out, it's like a visual representation of the pre-game stretching on for eternity. XD
@ORusty222 That could be part of it, the other part is he REALLY thinks about his plays and a couple of turns ahead. That is the sign of a really good player. He has every right to take his time and think things through
@SSxSnazySnipers Probably either a ritual to do while they're thinking, and/or to hide any clues that they might be favoring/waiting on a particular card. To hide if they have a strong/weak hand and which card might be strong.
but they do have the rule that you have to present your deck inside of a certain time. but i certainly do agree with you. shuffle a proper amount but do it with a little bit of respectful pace.
@deathnotealex But Slagstorm says "Slagstorm deals 3 damage to each creature; Slagstorm deals 3 damage to each player". Since "Slagstorm" is dealing damage anything with protection from Red will not die since Slagstorm which is a red source is dealing damage. With Day of Judgement/Damnation it's not dealing damage, it's destroying. So something with protection from white will still die to Day of Judgement.
For game one couldn't conley have activated nexus, floated a white with mox, played his second mox tap for a white and his last land for a colourless to play tempered steel? Wouldn't that be game?
Iyanaga is a VERY deliberate player. I think that's why he's so good, though. People have their rituals, and he's no different. It takes some real guts for him to take his time despite everyone else giving him crap for it!
He is talking about activating kessle run and inkmoth to trample over Conley's inkmoth from poision counters post combat damage assuming Conley were to block it..
@stupidtmnet Iyanaga played Galvanic Blast not Shock and Conley only had Etched Champion and Spellskite and Spellskite died because although they didn't show it they announced he slagstormed putting the Spellskite down to a 0/1 until the end of the turn.
I think Iyan is using a old stradegy using Chi/Ki, if you believe in that kind of stuff. And with the time inbetween he's conjuring it to read cards he hasn't pulled
@ttayttay umm... were you not here a year ago when the only deck being played was Caw Blade? Excuse me, but this format is WAY more diverse than the last.What do you expect? For there to be 50 decks of tournament caliber? its too much info to keep up with. This format has at least 5 decks that are Tournament worthy. Isn't that enough? Also, look at the people piloted the same decks....they are amazing players! it may not just be the deck.
I may be wrong, but it seems like Iyanaga was using a bit of strategy from Miyamoto Musashi's Book of 5 Rings. In which I believe it aggravating your opponent before the match can sometimes set the tone for the duel. Examples would be to show up late for a duel. Thoughts?
They would, because it's even more frustrating to watch it than to participate on it. I understand him, trying to keep it tight, but then again, it's "unfair" play, because you are making your opponent get frustrated on it. If it was allowed, lots of people would do it as a strategy.
You are right, and I am aware of Iyanaga's reputation. I guess, in the end, all we want is clarity. And seriously speaking, you HAVE to admit, psychological strategy or no, some players really rush like assholes.
@mlgkadir He knew he was playing against tempered steel. He saw the slagstorm in his hand and figured he probably shouldn't play it just to sweep it away when he would have to play the slagstorm.
@ttayttay What are you even saying? The metagame now is more diverse and varied than ever. You can win practically with anything. So many good cards and decks.
They don't have a time limit on T8 matches. Everything needs to be done in an "untimed, but still timely" manner. Nevertheless, tanking and whatnot isn't the problem, if you need to take some time to think that's understandable, but shuffling is fucking shuffling, it shouldn't take 20 minutes.
@gundamfan555 I dunno why the hell he decided to shuffle so damn much. Our Brit managed to get 3-0 in the time it took for them to do one game AND Shuffle for the second game. That's nuts!
ummm, how did Iyanaga have enough mana to activate both nexus lands AND pump for +1/0 via his wolf run at 17:39. I'm pretty sure he cheated and I don't understand how nobody saw this since it obviously takes RG and 1 colorless to pump for that, not just RG....
So, This is my first time watching a pro magic game. A lot of the commentary is about the guy shuffling. I enjoy their commentary, it's hilarious. However they're failing to miss what he's doing. This guy, at the moment I'm watching, is 3-0… He's obviously doing the mind game correct and his shuffling is for a reason. I don't know much about the game, I know this. However I can clearly see what he's trying to do, and it works.
That was really disrespectful that the judge was pushing him to play... I feel like to play your best you must insure that all your calculations are correct and its douche bag to do that. I give him props for really sitting there and doing all the math and seeing what could happen next etc.
@gundamfan555 lol to true, it always annoys me, its as if they think that this will change something "Maybe if i shuffle long enough, my deck will transform, into a deck, capable of beating EVERYONE"
Oddly enough, having played magic for five years now it is easy for me to rewatch Iyanaga play and appreciate the consideration he puts forth. Compared to the magic I watched this year at worlds, Iyanaga played better than basically everyone except for Chapin - I do not believe, after revisiting this, that he was playing exceptionally slow like most of the comments lean towards, he just didn't make a single mistake in any of the three games.
Thank you Iyanaga for exemplary magic.
No he was egregiously dragging the game out. Game 2 the turn he used the GSZ to get Viridian corrupted he had a very binary choice: hold it for a titan or get corrupter. The latter deals with a creature that would likely not be as vulnerable the next turn and and he had more than enough pressure from titan he already had in hand. This was not a decision that required a minute of thinking and a judge intervention
You obviously make a ton of mistakes in magic, stay hating on the goat!!! @rayodios5826
does anyone else hate the weird faces conley woods makes it drives me nuts
50:40 to 55:15 is the most entertaining part. Listening to the Announcers going on Tilt is hilarious!
"And you can't even Dissmember the titans"
Iyanaga is the best master of Ki ever. Look at all that power emanating from his patience!
You can google something like "Current Magic Formats" or something like that and you will most likely get linked to the Wizards website, which will give you a lot more information for what you're looking for. The main formats right now are Standard (Type 2), Legacy, Vintage, Modern, and Block. You'll most likely want to look into playing Standard.
It depends on the format, but yes, you can include multiple sets in one deck.
"Remember the titans"
". . .I'm as stunned silent as you were after Conley's win"
@naejin this is true, i am new to this game and though the trend seems to be control or token decks i am trying out a red-green werewolf deck. suggestions on how to get cards for this deck?
I love 53:35 when Colony is facepalming and the background is zooming out, it's like a visual representation of the pre-game stretching on for eternity. XD
@ttayttay how many of those made it to semi? Meta is diverse. Very.
can u use diffrent series in matches like m11 and scars of mirrodin in the same deck?
im pretty sure Iyanaga plays that slow on purpose to make his opponent get anxious. it really does work.
anyone explain why on turn 1 iyanaga didn't play a birds ?
@ORusty222 That could be part of it, the other part is he REALLY thinks about his plays and a couple of turns ahead. That is the sign of a really good player. He has every right to take his time and think things through
@SSxSnazySnipers Probably either a ritual to do while they're thinking, and/or to hide any clues that they might be favoring/waiting on a particular card. To hide if they have a strong/weak hand and which card might be strong.
@kustomkure I am saying 4 of the top 8 are the exact same deck. That's diverse?
It makes sure that your opponent doesn't know that you are playing off the top or that you have been holding something for a while (like a counter).
but they do have the rule that you have to present your deck inside of a certain time. but i certainly do agree with you. shuffle a proper amount but do it with a little bit of respectful pace.
is there a reeason y iyanaga didn't play birds at the very beginning?
@deathnotealex But Slagstorm says "Slagstorm deals 3 damage to each creature; Slagstorm deals 3 damage to each player". Since "Slagstorm" is dealing damage anything with protection from Red will not die since Slagstorm which is a red source is dealing damage. With Day of Judgement/Damnation it's not dealing damage, it's destroying. So something with protection from white will still die to Day of Judgement.
is it a good bleeding or a bad bleeding?
slagstorm kills all creatures even if protection cuz day makes it destoyed to or is there different ruling
@anthonyp1010 No, he payed the birds and the dual land to activate inkmoth, then tapped the inkmoth to pump it another.
For game one couldn't conley have activated nexus, floated a white with mox, played his second mox tap for a white and his last land for a colourless to play tempered steel? Wouldn't that be game?
hey do you know the Jun´ya´s deck ?
i dont know why u people compain about Iyanaga's time - was there a time limit for games??
thx man 9 min intro lol
does anyone know what the land cards are called? the ones that give poison counters
Jomembawang inkmoth nexus
are those decks 60 cards?? They don't seem like 60 even with sleeves
damn youtube autoplay, howd i get from watching machinima to this?
Iyanaga is a VERY deliberate player. I think that's why he's so good, though. People have their rituals, and he's no different. It takes some real guts for him to take his time despite everyone else giving him crap for it!
He is talking about activating kessle run and inkmoth to trample over Conley's inkmoth from poision counters post combat damage assuming Conley were to block it..
@XchucksteakX your absolutely right! his deck is all about burning away or infecting the hell out of the players.
@stupidtmnet Iyanaga played Galvanic Blast not Shock and Conley only had Etched Champion and Spellskite and Spellskite died because although they didn't show it they announced he slagstormed putting the Spellskite down to a 0/1 until the end of the turn.
why can they keep untapping there mana and keep placing mana on the same turn?
@KingCrOnOm my guess was to protect it, knowing he would slagstorm at some point.
Of course, you think they go through the tournament without being noticed??
I think Iyan is using a old stradegy using Chi/Ki, if you believe in that kind of stuff. And with the time inbetween he's conjuring it to read cards he hasn't pulled
Why are they constantly flicking their cards in hand?
every player that kicks my ass at magic takes 30 minutes to take their turn
this should be on espn
why are threy always shuffling there hands?
@ttayttay umm... were you not here a year ago when the only deck being played was Caw Blade? Excuse me, but this format is WAY more diverse than the last.What do you expect? For there to be 50 decks of tournament caliber? its too much info to keep up with. This format has at least 5 decks that are Tournament worthy. Isn't that enough? Also, look at the people piloted the same decks....they are amazing players! it may not just be the deck.
Apparently Jun'ya's suffling is great, it forced conwell to mulligan ahahah
Very interesting
I may be wrong, but it seems like Iyanaga was using a bit of strategy from Miyamoto Musashi's Book of 5 Rings. In which I believe it aggravating your opponent before the match can sometimes set the tone for the duel. Examples would be to show up late for a duel. Thoughts?
They would, because it's even more frustrating to watch it than to participate on it. I understand him, trying to keep it tight, but then again, it's "unfair" play, because you are making your opponent get frustrated on it. If it was allowed, lots of people would do it as a strategy.
Gameplay starts at 9:45
@TheAngelicDemise True. I forgot they botth got destroyed. I though only the orignial for some reason. Thanks xD.
iyanaga looks like he just woke up and got off the bed with that hair
post finals then semi finals then quarterfinals? I'm pretty sure that is not the right order....
Iyanaga doesn't fuck around and that's why he's pro.
why didn't iyanaga play birds on turn 1..
17:45 did he just cheat he only had 2 mana or kessig he needed extra one to pump it up?
@6kOk3 because starting hands don't determine the outcome of the game enough already.
The shuffling is a mind game. Get handled! lol.
You are right, and I am aware of Iyanaga's reputation. I guess, in the end, all we want is clarity. And seriously speaking, you HAVE to admit, psychological strategy or no, some players really rush like assholes.
@SpiteBellow no he knows what to do and he just kinda stalls it
thx
@mlgkadir
He knew he was playing against tempered steel. He saw the slagstorm in his hand and figured he probably shouldn't play it just to sweep it away when he would have to play the slagstorm.
9:50 semi-finals begin
If it's hard to tell It's prolly a good one :D
to distract people and make them think they have mroe options, but nowdays it's pretty useless as people ignore it.
@ttayttay What are you even saying? The metagame now is more diverse and varied than ever. You can win practically with anything. So many good cards and decks.
thx that really helps me out. i build a hole deck with m12 and all thoose cards arent that good so thx
Why do they always shuffle their hands??
The beginning reminds me of a football playback
They don't have a time limit on T8 matches. Everything needs to be done in an "untimed, but still timely" manner. Nevertheless, tanking and whatnot isn't the problem, if you need to take some time to think that's understandable, but shuffling is fucking shuffling, it shouldn't take 20 minutes.
love proxy decks
that was a sign u must play magic !
@gundamfan555 I dunno why the hell he decided to shuffle so damn much. Our Brit managed to get 3-0 in the time it took for them to do one game AND Shuffle for the second game. That's nuts!
@gundamfan555 I agree with you on that one, makes me look like a fast shuffler.
ummm, how did Iyanaga have enough mana to activate both nexus lands AND pump for +1/0 via his wolf run at 17:39. I'm pretty sure he cheated and I don't understand how nobody saw this since it obviously takes RG and 1 colorless to pump for that, not just RG....
***** oh nm, hm, lolz didnt notice him tap his blocking inkmoth for mana to pump itself while combat dmg is being assigned
So, This is my first time watching a pro magic game. A lot of the commentary is about the guy shuffling. I enjoy their commentary, it's hilarious. However they're failing to miss what he's doing. This guy, at the moment I'm watching, is 3-0… He's obviously doing the mind game correct and his shuffling is for a reason. I don't know much about the game, I know this. However I can clearly see what he's trying to do, and it works.
well if they didn't have a time limit on matches then people wouldn't give him so much crap about it
WOW....
Ok Wizards, I think you need to invest in a top quality shuffling machine so this doesn't happen again...
I think the japanese term for that is "starring".
how can this posible... winning in 2 turns omg
Day Of Judgement
these guys need a shuffle machine ahahahhd
When Wotc stops showing the face of the player instead of the ACTUAL GAME THAT'S GOING ON, let me know ; ) lol
thats FUN
in the top 8 there is no time limit.
@supermanthattay
opal is legendary.
good shit
This video may be an hour long, but don't be mistaken. 45 minutes of it is Iyanaga shuffling.
Hater troll 🥱
Yeah finally :D
in these games its not timed.
only in the swiss
50:44 I started to laugh out loud!
Iyanaga WHY YOU NO SHUFFLE FASTER >.
they dont in the finals
LYANAGA WHY YOU TAKE SO LONG?!?!?!?
@ximbabwe0228 haha... I know right!!!
@TheNethertyp
During the finals match iyanaga mulliganed every hand and he swept the match
That was really disrespectful that the judge was pushing him to play... I feel like to play your best you must insure that all your calculations are correct and its douche bag to do that. I give him props for really sitting there and doing all the math and seeing what could happen next etc.
@gundamfan555 lol to true, it always annoys me, its as if they think that this will change something "Maybe if i shuffle long enough, my deck will transform, into a deck, capable of beating EVERYONE"
the name is tempered steel
10:29 - why didn't he play birds? :o
Slagstorm