How to Play Ian Moss' Guitar Solo from Forever Now by Cold Chisel
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
- A quick but careful examination of Ian Moss' perfect guitar solo on Cold Chisel's Forever Now.
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I live in Tassie, and Mossy showed up at our local in a little town on the west coast a few years back and got on the sherbets with a few of the boys. He ended up coming back to a party and turned out to be a top snoozer, talked about shooting and 4wds etc all night (his family are avid hunters from the Alice) and told a few choice tales about life on the road.
Being an ex professional guitarist myself that loves Chisel, that night was an absolute treat and a rare moment when someone you've looked up to turns out to be exactly what you'd hoped. This solo has always been the pinnacle of his work in my opinion and certainly one of the best the country has ever produced.
Great story, Heath! Yeah, he seems like he'd be a normal bloke. Very unassuming. Particularly for a fella who can play and sing and write like that!
Who did you play with, mate?
@@dannyeddyguitar A few bands over the years (none of note really, but I did have one that was somewhat successful overseas after I left...although I don't know what that says about me lol), starting in pubs at the ripe old age of 14. I remember our high school teachers turning up to our gigs and I'd be there with a jug of beer on my amp rocking out haha 😂, those were the days. Then moved to the city and played in a couple more bands before going to Adelaide and playing there for a while, then back to Tassie later and after a brief stint playing in Hobart, I came home and got a haircut and a real job as they say.
I don't think I could go back to being on the road, but I still play for myself and record at home, I'm actually in the process of trying to put an album together now, although it's taken me some time to brush off the rust and familiarise myself with the software side of things. I'm usually a "plug guitar straight into amp, dial it and leave it" type of person, so it's a bit of a learning curve for my Neanderthal brain.
Anyway, it's great to see a player that's teaching and talking about fantastic Aussie music, keep up the great work, mate. Much appreciated 😉
@@blackie75 That could be my life story right there! Thanks for sharing. I'll keep an eye on your channel for the album progress, mate!
@@dannyeddyguitar At the moment just a song will be an accomplishment. What do they say? The oxen is slow, but the land is patient...or something to that effect 😁
One of my favourite solos of all time
Absolutely agree! A slice of 6-string perfection!
I just commented on yet another American reaction channel doing Aussie Golden Age stuff. He reacted to Choir Girl and loved it and I carried on about the restrained perfection of Mossy's work, especially at the end, and that the closest analogue in the Chisel songbook is Forever Now. Your video came up on my feed and I'm glad it did. It's great to see some informed discussion of music I think will be regarded as classic a century from now. That's one reason I like to see these foreign reactors raving about our old classics. It is generating some word of mouth I think. BTW, you do a great job on a difficult solo that Mossy seems to just toss off nonchalantly but which, as you show, contains a great deal of sophistication.
Thanks, Glenn. Interesting thoughts! I agree that this (and other Oz Rock classics from my childhood) will indeed be regarded as classics in the distant future. Which makes me happy and proud of course, but also kinda sad. Because I feel like that era is long gone. Just like the era of actual classical music. It's wonderful to think that I lived through that important time n human history. But I really wish we'd see the next quantum leap sometime soon...
@@dannyeddyguitar 'I feel like that era is long gone. Just like the era of actual classical music' Yes it is history now. The stars were in alignment for Aussie pub rock to occur when and where it did but while I feel regret about that I also recognise that 'a change is gonna come', always. Was it Hush who sang 'Nothing Stays the Same Forever'.. if it did it would become boring and attempts to revive it are, by virtue of not being truly original, bound to fail, like Mannerism in painting being a pale copy of the great age that preceded it. I agree there's not much evidence of a quantum leap lately but I realise that my background and age and prejudices may mean I won't recognise it if and when it comes.
Re the golden age of Oz music, have you looked at any of the interviews on the Australian Music Vault? People like Michael Chugg, Mark Opitz and Brian Cadd talking about the old days, interviewed by knowledgeable hosts like Brian Nankervis and the lovely Jane Gazzo. It is fascinating stuff. One persistent theme is that our great period owes something to the pre-internet tyranny of distance, where the influence of the twin poles of the UK and the US was mediated by the fact that they were far enough away to force us into some local creativity.
That was awesome. 🍻 Im a shred and metal guy, but Ian just kills all over it this song. Complete masterclass.
Very Joe Satriani like to my ear.
Bloody bonza 🇦🇺👍
This is awesome! Mossy deserves the recognition and respect of all Aussie guitarists of any genre. A national treasure!
I have no idea what you’re talking about but I love this solo!
Hahaha! Thanks Darren.
Thanks for the video. Amongst his many great riffs, my favourite Mossy solo is "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" from Swingshift. Pure genious.
Thanks! I'd forgotten about that performance - listening to it right now.
Well done mate very informative and interesting indeed
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ian's hands would help😉.... In my 54 years, I have seen Cold Chisel, Barnes, Moss & Walkers solo acts many times. Ian is an incredible player, always looking for that edge in his solos, never settling for a stock blues run. His playing was so developed by the age of 20 then the years of touring honed the soulful player we see today. I play keys & drums and love working out Ian's solos on my Korg SV2. Regarding the comment below about 'played to death', most people probably don't want to hear Choir Girl either, but I strongly suggest diving into the B sides, staying away from radio hits. I always enjoy following the different instruments in any well known song, and as a result, have grown to appreciate just how good Phil Small's Bass playing is. He always comes up with unique parts, great feel and tone. Chisel have so much material people are not aware of, and I have 5 Ian Moss solo records. These are two songs that represent Mossy well for different reasons. For rhythm, a song called 'Poor Boy from the album Petrolhead and for a great live solo, 'Rosaline' from the 'Ringside Tour'. Thanks for the upload, great work. Cannot underestimate how refreshing it is to see/hear an Aussie do a song breakdown with genuine demonstrations. Now I know how much you like Mossy, how good is the 'Barking Spiders' album? This solo live is special, and the version of Merry Go Round, a personal favorite. I know I am 2 years late, but I hope there is more content, and possibly a rig rundown on what you know of Ian's guitars & amps? Thanks again, new subscriber, Cameron, Sydney.
Cameron from Sydney! Welcome aboard mate! I haven't listened to that Barking Spiders album for so long - definitely going to revisit that now. Thanks heaps for those 2 recommendations as well. I'm finding it harder and harder to find time to sift through back catalogues for gems like this, so viewers' recommendations are becoming critical!
@@dannyeddyguitar Appreciate the reply. This may help you manage your listening time perhaps. Whether it is subconcious or not, I tend to listen to Analogue recordings more as well as having a preference for acoustic drums, vintage keyboards, amps & guitars. I really struggle with Protools and the amount of compression resulting in lost audio , simply as I am from the generation where you put the years of practice in, did the examinations and learnt the theory. The great records and bands have that analogue warmth to them in my opinion. Thanks again, if you need a reason to practice, look up Robben Ford. Sickening talent. Cheers Cameron.
Oh man! Robben is such a monster!
'His playing was so developed by the age of 20'
I heard an interview with Don Walker where he said that when he was auditioning people for the band in walked this very young bloke from Alice. He started playing and Don thought 'this kid is a genius'.
Wow I never realised how Mossy built that 4,5,6, 7... part to solo that genius, now every time I listen I can't stop counting it... Damn you Danny!! Hehe This solo is burned into my brain... It somehow releases all tension and time stops for a moment. I also love the final sustained note finishing the song with the reverbed snare.
Thanks Dean! I didn't actually realise until I was writing it out. Amazing. There's another tiny bit I love - his bend going into bar 3 of the solo is not quite up to pitch. It sounds incredible emotional, almost a bit angry. But I couldn't cover it like that - Every time I tried it just sounded flat. The guy is so bloody good he can even bend to the perfect microtonal point to add emotion!
@@dannyeddyguitar yeah that bend is gorgeous sits just under the note. The disonance ismajor/minor and agreed its a 'yearning'. I've heard Diesel do it, and Sting does that with his vocals sometimes too. Genius
@@dannyeddyguitar I also love the intro, guitar really held back with 'suggestions of the chord' that let's the strings enter and interact, and leads to a beautiful unison. Prestwich on drums is amazing.
@@dannyeddyguitar Ha. In my comment on Choir Girl on the young American fella's reaction channel I made the point that Jimmy's voice at times seems a bit ragged and you think he is headed for a bum note, but it never arrives and in fact the tired burr actually makes the phrases sound better than if he had sung them 'clean'.
@@deanstewart27 Yes the restraint is key, he never seems to be trying too hard. I have tried to work out who he is most like, but he's kind of unique. There is a bit of Knopfler in the educated fills in the verses, and some Duane Allman in his intros and outros, his capacity to start or end something beautifully. He's one of a kind and he belongs in that sort of company for mine.
Rad vid! Enjoyed this breakdown heaps ⚡️
Thanks Tom. Hey, is that 'Freakin Out' you? Your song and performance? I'm loving it!
@@dannyeddyguitar Hey Danny! No worries, and it sure is! Thanks so much for checkin it out :)
Tasty riffs. Mossy is a god.
Thanks Brett. Isn't he just!!
Very, very nice. Love Chisel and all they represent.
Thanks SHB!
@@dannyeddyguitar Um, The Meaning of SHB
So now you know - SHB means "Super Hot Babe" - don't thank us. YW! What does SHB mean? SHB is an acronym, abbreviation or slang word that is explained above where the SHB definition is given. Well Thanks
Why?
Cause Mossy fucken ROCKS!!!
Yep
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Thank you Danny. I've always thought Ian Moss was a 'guitar players player'. Incredible tone and chops, unique, totaly original, instantly recognisable. Yet.......because Cold Chisel has been SO done to death (if u are Australian and esp. if of a certain age bracket you'll know what I mean) I can't actually stand listening to them! It's like Baby Shark on repeat forever in every shearing shed in Australia. A great band ruined in some respects. So I'm actually really glad you've broken down this incredible solo and skayed the demon I was too cowardly to even look at. This IS an amazing song with some of the most memorable and tasteful motifs ever.
Great comment, Graeme - thanks heaps! Yes, I hear you, re the 'done to death' aspect of Chisel.
But for me it was actually the other way around. I was an arrogant musical snob in my youth, with a Django Reinhardt album under one arm and a Van Halen album under the other. I just couldn't see the appeal in Cold Chisel's 'Bogan Rock'.
Then I grew up and realised that these guys are all sensational musicians and writers, and I began to hear subtleties throughout their catalogue that I was simply too ignorant to acknowledge as a teen.
@@dannyeddyguitar 'Fair Warning' I hope!
John Mayer secretly cry’s in the corner after every mossy solo 😩🥴😂🤌👊
Hahahaaa! Thanks Michael.
Haha.. ain`t that true. Ian Moss has to be one of the most unique rock guitarists around. He`s rock, but with a twist that defies. To top it all off, the guy can sing REALLY well too. Fkn legend
John Mayer never done anything for me. Sure the cat can play ....but
@@aladinin I’ve never really appreciated him
Until this year. Got some
Mad chord shapes and unique style ! Also makes me wanna buy a hiwatt stack now 😩
You have inspired me to pay more attention to the theory - I should of taken more attention when getting lessons from you when I was a kid
You have absolutely nailed the that sound to - awesome
Ahhhh! Thank you so much Craig. I'll look forward to hearing some Lydian content from you soon!
He’s just that fricken good....
Truth! Thanks for visiting, Craig.
Liked your take on that solo a lot...must have seen him play 10 times and on occasion he’s been sublime
@@craigwallace7051 Agreed, he's astounding! His vocals are incredible too. An absolute world class musician. Although, there is one thing I find a bit sad - not specific to Mossy, but he's a classic example - when I've seen him play, I notice that at least half the crowd isn't even that into it unless he's singing the chorus of Tucker's Daughter. I'm standing there with my jaw dropped at his every note, hardly breathing as he covers Georgia... I think it's a sign of the times that people are SO entirely spoiled for choice, and have seen SO much unrealistically produced content online, that they are underwhelmed in the presence of true greatness.one thing.
Just a little rant for your Sunday morning.... ;)
Awesome stuff Danny. So much Mojo in one commercial radio solo! thanx for breaking that down for us mate. Your a legend!
Thanks for watching and commenting mate. I need to analyse some of your amazing work!
that ascending and descending is the part that makes it difficult its going up but down ffs
Incredible right?!
Danny this is great! You have done a lot of work to produce this content! Thank you so much. Very informative and thanks for introducing me to Soundslice! What a resource! Any chance of any more Mossy/Chisel content?
My absolute pleasure! And great call - I need more Mossy on here...
You have a sexy late night radio DJ voice. Tasty.
Hahahahhaa, thanks, Danny
Never seen a minor chord played like that C#m as you have played it. Seems so obvious when you think about it
My fave minor(7) shape Shane!
You owe me a keyboard mate. Just spat coke all over the keyboard when the Curiosity Show interstitial hit.
Hahahaha!!! Yes!
i have been struggling as a guitar player not much theory to know where to go on this awesome solo am i in b or e its fuckin lydion and im dancing between e major and b ffs to get the feel for it i dont know scales for shit but keys helps great video mate
Glad you got something out of it. That solo and its cleverness has been going around in my head for SO many years. It was great to finally get it out of my head and into yours, haha!
This is awesome Danny - love me some 80s pub rock. Any chance of giving the oils some airplay? A lot of their guitar work is sublime pre Diesel and Dust and would love a deep dive on some of the stuff off Head Injuries for example
Thanks Hamish. Yes, I'm developing plans for an Oils indulgence. Have you had look at my Top 25 Oz Rock Riffs? There may just be some Oils within...
@@dannyeddyguitar The OIls would have a few riffs in there you would think. As for solos though I think it's hard to go past the live version of No Time for Games from the Nov 82 Capitol show. Like Forever Now, it closes the song very appropriately indeed.