Best colour timing: 2003 DVD and 2021 4K Best Standard Blu Ray: 2007 Blu Ray Best detail: 2018 4K and 2021 4K Best and most accurate overall experience: 2021 4K
I can understand why people like the 4K Scream Factory more than the Lionsgate 4K. I love the Lionsgate 4K Blu-Ray, and the Scream Factory is surprisingly another really good addition. I can enjoy both versions of the movie when October comes again!
I prefer the darker color grading of the 2018 4K but there seems to be a slight uptick in detail in the new 2021 4K. The scream factory 2021 4K comes with a Blu-ray that restores the darker color grading.
The darker color grading of the 2018 4K is also present in the 2021 4K, with the only difference being that some scenes don't look almost black and white anymore. The 2021 4K literally improves upon the 2018 4K while still retaining its same visual style.
I love the desaturated image from the 2018 UHD. Was that approved by Dean Cundey as well? I never really thought of Carpenter as a director who naturally goes for the more saturated colorful look of the new SF disc.
Well, 2007 BD is best looking in most instances, especially darker scenes. '21 UHD is only better than '18 UHD, but both are like having sunglasses on, including the '13 BD mostly.
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The 2007 Blu-ray is far from the best looking version. The colors are way oversaturated, the skin tones are orange, and it's not even remotely close to how the film originally looked. I've seen the 2018 4k in HDR, and I can tell you it is not at all like having sunglasses on. The daytime footage in particular is actually very bright and contrasty; the highlights are much more intense than on any of the Blu-rays. The HDR also adds more depth and detail in the nighttime footage.
@ You're saying in motion, it looks better, than on screenshots? Maybe without constant comparisons eyes and brain adjust to whatever you're presented with, and perception changes, one only sees something darker, than the whitest available right now, and vice versa. For someone who likes duller colors, 2013 BD is good. I'll never like whatever HDR is doing to the image, it seems. And I do have my own discs, high-end TV, proper settings, 23 year experience. Don't know why I usually don't like HDR. I never liked 'theater' settings on TVs, and how dull movies look in actual theaters, so I guess there's an answer there...
@ I see, thank you for replying! So it needs a brighter setting to be on the level SDR image can with lower brightness. That's why I noticed that any TV, tablet or smartphone spikes up brightness when detecting HDR source video... In that case, if the screen is not an OLED, the brightness spike makes darker parts less dark because of backlight. So one probably should watch HDR content on OLED. Don't know how good that brightness is for the eyes though. Also many OLEDs aren't as bright, as QLED, for example, and whites on them look more into blue hues. Also, why dim the picture, to have to then lighten it up with excessive brightness, when SDR already looks good without that. To have more contrast? OLED, again, has pretty perfect contrast. To have brighter colors? People praising HDR seem to like darker, 'theatrical' look, and despise bright transfers on BD...
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@@LennyNero2019 It isn't quite that simple. SDR has 6 stops of dynamic range, whereas the average film negative has over 13 stops. What HDR does is it allows the image to take advantage of that dynamic range, thereby preserving more of the detail that's visible in the film. In SDR, the more you increase contrast and brightness, the more you lose detail and color fidelity, but in HDR you can increase contrast and brightness while preserving more detail and color fidelity than you could in SDR. That's not to say that HDR is all about making everything brighter, it's more about giving the image room to breathe, and mimicking the natural behavior of film. OLEDs and LEDs both have their strengths and weaknesses. LEDs can get much brighter than OLEDs, which gives brighter films more impact. But on the other hand, OLEDs have more precision due to the pixel level light control, and are generally better for darker films as well as darker viewing environments.
@ it is a brighter image on a cx oled but it is still de saturated, the older blu-ray is over saturated pick your poison. i have oled i have seen every version of halloween including the newer shout 4k and my least favourite is the liongate 4k it has sucked the life out from the movie. the shout is has kept the 4k detail and hdr from the lionsgate and added back a little saturation into the colours. never liked the lionsgate 4k my least favourite from every halloween release. if anybody says this is much brighter image then the old bluray trust me it still looks dead and lifeless. what this guy is saying is the overall colour pallate of the movie is duller not the image brightness, the liongate 4k is without a doubt the duller looking movie.
2021's 4K release has certain scenes that don't look like they were filmed in 1978, and instead that it's actually a new movie, like the scene with Loomis finding the truck on the road.
The DVD actually looks impressive here. But, when you factor in value for money and the product you get I find the Blu-ray is the best. The 4K looks nice but not nice enough to justify the price increase.
Some of these scenes get progressively worse looking tbh. It says a lot when the 2007 DVD looks great & the 2021 4K looks like all the vividness has been washed out. Thanks for the comparison
Real colors aren't vivid, unless you like to watch content with your saturation color settings cranked way up. Dolby Vision gives you realistic colors and takes more advantage of the Bt.2020 color space than HDR10+ does. You get different hues to colors and its going to make the colors look as accurate as possible. When am image is over saturated, you lose different hues and detail is lost.
@@wodensthrone5215 There are colors in nature that are naturally vivid; certain types of flowers, species of insects, the sky at dawn or sunset. I'm not saying crank it to Neo Tokyo levels of saturation in Haddonfield, but there are certain tones in some scenes of the earlier DVDs that work better than the washed out look of the later releases. It's like they went overboard on muting. In other scenes, it's a definite improvement, but not very consistent across the board
@@FireMadeFleshII The latest 2021 release uses Dolby Vision, Dolby Vision takes the most advantage of the Bt.2020 Color Space, its a direct transfer from the film negatives. The Dolby Vision implementation isn't some masking of rec.709, its a color work from the ground up, this is a dumb argument, I've seen people argue this argument several times about "washed out colors" When most of y'all don't own a high end OLED or own a high end 4k UHD player, or even have talked to someone who is ISF certified, who calibrates your panel, right down to the amount of gamma each color should be displayed. Colors are not supposed to be vivid, the original DVD release and everything before the 4k version is shit. Now try to educate me about colors again, if you want a vivid image, go into your TV settings and force bt.2020 color space over rec.709 mastered content. All your colors will look more vivid and overblown, you'll lose color hues and detail.
@@wodensthrone5215 What is it with the UA-cam comments these days? You guys go full on hypersensitive keyboard warrior over the silliest of issues. lol. I'm only referring to the footage comparisons that are presented in the video above like everyone else, yet somehow it was necessary to seek out my little comment out of the nearly 40 others to invalidate MY OPINION with your "extensive" Dolby digital techno babble. It's really not that serious dude & I got 2 likes, so apparently others saw what I saw as well. Maybe it's the UA-cam compression of this video or something, I don't know, but I stand by what I said & I'm not gonna engage in this unnecessary & quite laughable pissing contest with you over video saturation. Enjoy your weekend
Interesting to compare two DVDs, two Blu-rays and two 4Ks. Personally drawn to the new 4K and the first Blu-ray.
People's eyes are broken, the 2021 4K release looks absolutely stunning.
2007 seems more like the original. Has the best color and looks great.
The last 3 went ultra gray.
Man seeing the 4k version is really like seeing it for the first time again
Thank you for updating these.
The 2025 release going to be black and white at this rate
Best colour timing: 2003 DVD and 2021 4K
Best Standard Blu Ray: 2007 Blu Ray
Best detail: 2018 4K and 2021 4K
Best and most accurate overall experience: 2021 4K
I can understand why people like the 4K Scream Factory more than the Lionsgate 4K. I love the Lionsgate 4K Blu-Ray, and the Scream Factory is surprisingly another really good addition. I can enjoy both versions of the movie when October comes again!
2003 has the best colors imo. Good thing I have it
I first time ever see two different 4K transfers, that's quite unusual.
Ordered the 4k steelbook of this but not sure which 4k disc is included in this, the 2018 transfer or the 2021 transfer?.. does anyone know?
2013 blu-ray ftw
Great Work ! Thank you so much !
99’ and 2013 both hold up really well.
I’m going 2007 or 2021. I can’t stand these super dark 4ks. 4K is awesome but allot of great movies are too dark on the dark scenes
In my opinion the 2009 blu ray and 2021 4K look the best.
09?
I prefer the darker color grading of the 2018 4K but there seems to be a slight uptick in detail in the new 2021 4K. The scream factory 2021 4K comes with a Blu-ray that restores the darker color grading.
The darker color grading of the 2018 4K is also present in the 2021 4K, with the only difference being that some scenes don't look almost black and white anymore. The 2021 4K literally improves upon the 2018 4K while still retaining its same visual style.
I'm guessing the 3rd disc in the new SF package is identical to the 2013 version?
The third disc is actually the 2007 transfer.
I love the desaturated image from the 2018 UHD. Was that approved by Dean Cundey as well? I never really thought of Carpenter as a director who naturally goes for the more saturated colorful look of the new SF disc.
No the 2018 4K wasn’t approved by dean cundey
For me 2003 has the best colors
2021 is really good, better than 2018 and 2013, which is WAY too washed out.
Waht version does Netflix stream?
Looks like it's streaming the 2007 blu ray
2021 is the best. In second place comes 2018's 4K
Well, 2007 BD is best looking in most instances, especially darker scenes. '21 UHD is only better than '18 UHD, but both are like having sunglasses on, including the '13 BD mostly.
The 2007 Blu-ray is far from the best looking version. The colors are way oversaturated, the skin tones are orange, and it's not even remotely close to how the film originally looked. I've seen the 2018 4k in HDR, and I can tell you it is not at all like having sunglasses on. The daytime footage in particular is actually very bright and contrasty; the highlights are much more intense than on any of the Blu-rays. The HDR also adds more depth and detail in the nighttime footage.
@ You're saying in motion, it looks better, than on screenshots?
Maybe without constant comparisons eyes and brain adjust to whatever you're presented with, and perception changes, one only sees something darker, than the whitest available right now, and vice versa.
For someone who likes duller colors, 2013 BD is good. I'll never like whatever HDR is doing to the image, it seems. And I do have my own discs, high-end TV, proper settings, 23 year experience. Don't know why I usually don't like HDR. I never liked 'theater' settings on TVs, and how dull movies look in actual theaters, so I guess there's an answer there...
@ I see, thank you for replying! So it needs a brighter setting to be on the level SDR image can with lower brightness. That's why I noticed that any TV, tablet or smartphone spikes up brightness when detecting HDR source video...
In that case, if the screen is not an OLED, the brightness spike makes darker parts less dark because of backlight. So one probably should watch HDR content on OLED. Don't know how good that brightness is for the eyes though. Also many OLEDs aren't as bright, as QLED, for example, and whites on them look more into blue hues.
Also, why dim the picture, to have to then lighten it up with excessive brightness, when SDR already looks good without that. To have more contrast? OLED, again, has pretty perfect contrast. To have brighter colors? People praising HDR seem to like darker, 'theatrical' look, and despise bright transfers on BD...
@@LennyNero2019 It isn't quite that simple. SDR has 6 stops of dynamic range, whereas the average film negative has over 13 stops. What HDR does is it allows the image to take advantage of that dynamic range, thereby preserving more of the detail that's visible in the film. In SDR, the more you increase contrast and brightness, the more you lose detail and color fidelity, but in HDR you can increase contrast and brightness while preserving more detail and color fidelity than you could in SDR. That's not to say that HDR is all about making everything brighter, it's more about giving the image room to breathe, and mimicking the natural behavior of film. OLEDs and LEDs both have their strengths and weaknesses. LEDs can get much brighter than OLEDs, which gives brighter films more impact. But on the other hand, OLEDs have more precision due to the pixel level light control, and are generally better for darker films as well as darker viewing environments.
@ it is a brighter image on a cx oled but it is still de saturated, the older blu-ray is over saturated pick your poison. i have oled i have seen every version of halloween including the newer shout 4k and my least favourite is the liongate 4k it has sucked the life out from the movie. the shout is has kept the 4k detail and hdr from the lionsgate and added back a little saturation into the colours. never liked the lionsgate 4k my least favourite from every halloween release. if anybody says this is much brighter image then the old bluray trust me it still looks dead and lifeless. what this guy is saying is the overall colour pallate of the movie is duller not the image brightness, the liongate 4k is without a doubt the duller looking movie.
2007 BD and 2021 4K look the best to me.
Nice video.
2021's 4K release has certain scenes that don't look like they were filmed in 1978, and instead that it's actually a new movie, like the scene with Loomis finding the truck on the road.
good job man
Did they DNR the sh1t out of it for the 2021 4k?
From my experience the 2021 4k’s film grain is very prominent, but it’s not as heavy since it was a scan of the original camera negatives I believe
2007 bluray is the best for me. 2021 4k Shout the second, for color equilibrity
scream factory absolutely killed these restorations
The DVD actually looks impressive here. But, when you factor in value for money and the product you get I find the Blu-ray is the best. The 4K looks nice but not nice enough to justify the price increase.
To be fair the new 4K have lot of extra so that why the the price is increased
Some of these scenes get progressively worse looking tbh. It says a lot when the 2007 DVD looks great & the 2021 4K looks like all the vividness has been washed out. Thanks for the comparison
Real colors aren't vivid, unless you like to watch content with your saturation color settings cranked way up.
Dolby Vision gives you realistic colors and takes more advantage of the Bt.2020 color space than HDR10+ does.
You get different hues to colors and its going to make the colors look as accurate as possible.
When am image is over saturated, you lose different hues and detail is lost.
@@wodensthrone5215 There are colors in nature that are naturally vivid; certain types of flowers, species of insects, the sky at dawn or sunset. I'm not saying crank it to Neo Tokyo levels of saturation in Haddonfield, but there are certain tones in some scenes of the earlier DVDs that work better than the washed out look of the later releases. It's like they went overboard on muting. In other scenes, it's a definite improvement, but not very consistent across the board
@@FireMadeFleshII The latest 2021 release uses Dolby Vision, Dolby Vision takes the most advantage of the Bt.2020 Color Space, its a direct transfer from the film negatives.
The Dolby Vision implementation isn't some masking of rec.709, its a color work from the ground up, this is a dumb argument, I've seen people argue this argument several times about "washed out colors"
When most of y'all don't own a high end OLED or own a high end 4k UHD player, or even have talked to someone who is ISF certified, who calibrates your panel, right down to the amount of gamma each color should be displayed.
Colors are not supposed to be vivid, the original DVD release and everything before the 4k version is shit.
Now try to educate me about colors again, if you want a vivid image, go into your TV settings and force bt.2020 color space over rec.709 mastered content.
All your colors will look more vivid and overblown, you'll lose color hues and detail.
@@wodensthrone5215 What is it with the UA-cam comments these days? You guys go full on hypersensitive keyboard warrior over the silliest of issues. lol. I'm only referring to the footage comparisons that are presented in the video above like everyone else, yet somehow it was necessary to seek out my little comment out of the nearly 40 others to invalidate MY OPINION with your "extensive" Dolby digital techno babble.
It's really not that serious dude & I got 2 likes, so apparently others saw what I saw as well. Maybe it's the UA-cam compression of this video or something, I don't know, but I stand by what I said & I'm not gonna engage in this unnecessary & quite laughable pissing contest with you over video saturation. Enjoy your weekend
I was thinking the same. Each slide of the same image just kept becoming more grey lol