BTC65 RISERLESS GPU Mining Motherboard Review!
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Hey, thanks for taking a look at the board! Such a great discussion of the pro's and cons of going riserless. Personally, I love the density of server cases+riserless boards. I find them much easier to keep cool than open air rigs, and capturing/exhausting the hot air. High CFM fans are the only way to go for cooling, so it's only practical if you can use 60-70 dba fans.
A custom home made frame works really well, with 4x delta fans.. (similar to the ones you built with Guntis's instructions, but not as tall) Perhaps I will add some instructions on how to make on on the site.
I never even thought of pre-loading HiveOS, good suggestions.
As an in-person customer of Bee's Crypto, I am 100% satisfied. Will buy anything I can from him in the future. This guy gets it.
How can you boot this motherboard without a monitor connected to it? I have an other version with 4 fan connectors next to the pci-e connectors.
These MB would be great for immersion mineral oil rig !!! Like this I see lots of trouble coming with the heat..Great test, thanks for showing...
That is a tight fit. I like the look of the board though. Jealous you have more 3070ti EVGA FTW gpus than me lol. At least I can steal your overclocks what I set my 3070ti's up lol. I was looking at riserless boards though to put my rigs on and eliminate some of the problems of needing to diagnose busted risers. Still have not purchased one though yet. Maybe a winter time project for me. keep up the solid work
How do you get hive os to boot super fast like that it always waits a few seconds for me to enter a key to boot hive os if I leave it that will choose hiveos
What if you use pci-e extenders.
If you could manage a way to support that thing vertically it would be so crazy lookin lol, tower of cards. Fun stuff, interesting stuff, thanks for the vids my dude.
Sweet 🚀🌑🙋♂️💪
First of all, love the channel. New subscriber. I'm about halfway through - it's hard to see, but there's actually a on/off switch on this mobo - I have 2 of them running 24x7 with HiveOS in a SpiderMiner v2 system (they sell a beautiful case, this board, power supply and HiveOS pre-loaded for a very reasonable price. These boards are bulletproof and work perfectly for mining. I even put a larger mSata and more ram in one and ran Windows 10 for a while, but went back to Hive.
i can build you a custem red case for your new board let me know!!
I did get the Power supply but unfortunate the cables are to short for 8gpu Veddha frame and its loud for residential mining.
*_Hey Panda! Hello From China! Still doing mining here!_*
isn’t that illegal lol
Must be true if you saw it on the internet.
@@xurbus the bitcoin hashrate dropped 50% after the announcement that China had banned mining. Pretty sure it’s true.
I always liked the look of server cases. It looks more refined to me. Made it to the end as always!
I only wish more server cases would fit in a standard 19" rack. What would be cool is a daughter board that had 8 slots, and the first slot was for a PC-on-module similar to Intel's Ghost Canyon NUC, and built slots for 2 HP server PSUs
I made it till the end! When you buy from alibaba do you have to pay any custom fees or import certifications?
I love the smell test, I do that all the time haha
most popular smell test hehehehe
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If you smell, what Red Panda Mining is cooking 😊😂
FYI there is no 90+Gold standard for PSU's. I wouldn't touch that PSU.
What thermometer are you using?
Man, that RVN power consumption! 😳
I grabbed this board from Bee's. Glad you made the video! MB was a pain in the ass to mcgiver on to an 8GPU frame..... But after getting it figured out, all working well! 8 X RX 6800 XT's that I got lucky to find for $1100 CAD ea.... SMH!!!!!!!! (Should have been $700) 492 total Hashrate on EThash. Board is kinda slow but once it's up and running, works great!
Hi from the UK :) always very informative videos and simply presented, which is always a bonus.
Panda you need more server cases so all your rigs will run
Is he using 1 6 pin to 2 8 pins ? On the 3070 and de rx 6800 ???
Avoid that 90+ psu - it’s not a real certifications, just manufacturers making bad psus with low efficiency
That's what i was going to say. Those are time bombs. Tested already 2 of "90 plus gold" and they failed (it was not that brand but that certificate is fake).
the first load will take a minute cause first time loading
This is really very helpful, thanks. At first I went "oh great, no risers", but then you correctly pointed out the limitations. I wonder if an 8 x 2060 config would be worth it - you'd have enough space and not so much "droop", while temps would (probably) still be OK.
Your an ANIMAL panda! I just love seeing all these GPUs
I use the btc37 on all of my rigs but still use risers ONLY because I use all 3070s that are 2.5in wide and with those cards being so close to one another, they build heat and it's harder to cool them. I noticed significant higher temps with them close to one another versus spaced out on a rig/frame
Oh! so u can still pair those riserless motherboard with risers? meaning plug it to those 16x pci lanes?
will there be a video about 6600xt?
all my rigs are onboard best ever easy to set up love them i use tb360
do any of these riserless motherboards like btc65 use an atx power connector? wouldn't need the extra 6 pin connectors if they did use atx connector. and when you use the risers they use like an extra 10 watts each.
I have 3 riserless MB that I use. I did put 1 in a wood frame it was hard to keep cool. I now put them in frames and use risers. I am using PCIE splitters and have 12 GPUs on 1 - 8 GPU MB mounted to a 12 GPU frame. Cooling is easier spacing is better. Thank you for the Vids. Team Canada!!!!
What do you think about asrock h510 pro btc+ ?
I think an angle iron bracket to stabilize the gpus would be a good mounting bracket for 4-5 fans
Cooling and ventilation are very good. I'm proud of you. ☺️
Thanks for a great and helpful vid. A lot of info that really helped me on how to setup my new riserless motherboard :)
i like the idea of riserless mine. Risers are biggest problem in mining as far as i can see. But is this mother board can give x16 in every pci ports? would a rig with 6 rtx 3060 ti would work on this ? would like to know if anyone knows. In this video i can see its create heat but then again there is no fans which is pushes the heat from the cards. would really like to know if this motherboard can handle 6 or more 3060 ti with a good gold standard power supply !
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I thought you would plug in 8 x 3060 nerfed cards. Looks like that one would work if the cpu supported all those pcie lanes at 8 x 8
Not enough PCIe lanes on the cpu and the gpu slots only have a single PCIe lane wired to it.
64 lanes? threadripper 🤔😐
@@NeariX846 You only need 8 lanes on the slot. you dont need the cpu to have enough lanes for all gpus as far as i know.
@@Manysdugjohn There are no multiplexer's on the board. So it will be one lane per slot.
Think I say it every time but you dont need to use a collection of adapters to install HiveOS. Use the flash tool and the flash image on a USB stick and it will load to the hard drive. They already made software to help you bulk install.
Thinking the same, just flash as a image in a usb, plug and play!
@@amirmustafad6698 with how many installs he does, he should have a USB with the flash tool and farm config that he updates the image hosted on it. Then just change the name of the machine as it comes online from the web page.
i bet you could build just a 1x1 wood rectangle on the side where you screw in your gpu's and make it the size to fit delta fans that way you can support your gpu and have a place to mount your delta fan i know i just order a btc s37 and thats what i plan on doing or something similar.
Did exactly what you described with s37 ~ wooden frame, mounted some deltas, server psu and its done. Didn't have dead pcie in 8months *knockknock*.
The cards are wayyy to close for me haha
You should try this MOBO with 8x 3060 non lhr. They sell it in China saying all The pci-e slots are x16.
What MOBO is that - care to send a link?
Wow, awesome work... but all this went right over my head with all that set up... specially the software config. :( I need a more basic one and then step up to this. Thank you. Great work!
nice work , had difficult experience with some similar MB as you said if one pcie dies the whole rig will go off
Can you review Biostar TB360-BTC PRO Core?
I'm using a BTC-S37 (65mm spacing) and am pretty happy with it. It's not as compact as the BTC65, but it's also about 1/3 the price. Biggest drawback of the BTC-x37 boards is a unified 12V plane which can be problematic with multiple PSU setups. After inspecting my board, it appears to be a 2-layer PCB so it should be pretty easy to use a dremel/scalpel to cut the planes to split the board into multiple 12V sections, but don't cut the Gnd planes as these need to stay connected together. Only have 3 GPUs on mine currently and only a few hundred watts, so that'll be a project for future me.
Getting frames/cases for these are a big pain though. Looking to make a 2020 frame.
Check out the BTC-S37. It has the most spacing of the riserless boards. I made a frame for mine out of 2020 extrusion and will be making a few more. They save a ton of space and draw very little power. They work pretty well.
@Steven gabriel Lay off the drugs.
Those boards would be great for a Chia farm or a DIY NAS, Grab 8 "4 or 8 port" SAS cards giving you 32 or 64 sata connections!
I only would use rizerless motherboard with small GPUs in terms of thickness and heat generated by them.
This is gold for people like me that haves a dedicated installation, temp is always 16 celcius and the wind inside is excellent
Hello im from cameroon. I need your help
Hi, I want to try this but you have a link to a more newbie video on how to basically start one cause I am not sure how all the monitor and keyboard hook up so i can start the initial set up like a normal installation OS of a PC and all that basic stuffs. I know how to build a pc and install OS but honestly I am clueless at this so i can use some basic help if you have such video. Thank you and love your channel.
Thanks for watching, be sure to stay tuned for more updates...
I use the BTC-S37's (Around $189 USD) and just do 4 GPU's per motherboard. I generally space them by using the 1, 3, 5 and 7 slot.
-Riserless mobo won't work well for my 3080
-2000w psu is too loud that irritates my family. Sorry.
Ouch! I was thinking there is no way he's putting that paperclip in there while it's plugged into the wall... but he did it!
smell test hahahahahhaha, yeap! that's the one I need
I was super interested in these power supplies until I saw that they have a 30day warranty.
Unless your using riserless in server style case they arnt really ideal. Plus like you said one riser failure and board is dead. On one of fb groups I saw riserless board failure by the riser and it took out board and 2gpus because of small fire.
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Are the individual 6-pin connectors isolated? On my BTC-S37, they are not. This poses a problem when you need to use multiple PSUs. You don't want to connect different PSU 12v rails together!
I wish they were isolated. Right now if you need another PSU, you just have to use risers to isolate the second PSU, which defeats the purpose unless you're goal was to reduce risers, but not completely eliminate them.
Or you just get one powerful PSU and install a 240v outlet.
looks like a good candidate for immersion
Awesome video. I was planning on buying a riser-less board for a bit, but watching this, never will. The non-changeable spacing and the embedded PCI-E slots and 6-pin power are just more points of failure. Gives me more of an incentive to build my own frame with the GPUs laying flat, they way they are designed. If you see a frame that allows the natural design of the GPUs to lay flat, that would be a great review. Otherwise, I will have to design one without GPU's being directly above or behind each other. Keep up the information... this is great!
Non adjustable spacing and embedded PCIe slots are the very definition of a motherboard. Not sure what you were expecting. It's as if you're complaining about having to actually put food in your mouth to not be hungry anymore. This motherboard is great in my opinion, less things to connect means less points of failure. I run a bunch of 30 series on similar boards with a 20 inch fan pointed at them and it works like a charm, stable, extreme hashrates and really cool. Best part is how cheap these are, no need for an ATX supply, no crappy risers, compact. Go find some slim GPUs like Dell RTX 30 series and you are golden.
@@adriandeiac8365 yeesh, you must be fun at product demos. I wasn't able to estimate what 8x GPU temperatures would be with that spacing, so yeah, the video helps. I did misspeak and it isn't more points of failure, but it is a more expensive point of failure. I would rather replace a $8-$15 riser, rather than a $250 mobo. We aren't all experts like you are and some of us want to see someone demo a set up before we know everything. Calm down and enjoy your elitism somewhere else please.
Made it to the end as usual, can't get enough of cool crypto mining rigs!
I have 3 BTC-T37s and 5 BTC-S37s, interesting to see how they compare
I use them also, never had an issue so far. Id rather use a server psu on a breakout, like from parallel miner. This setup is kinda expensive to me. Also i use mine in a quad gpu setup, im in texas and they get too hot when i use all 8 slots
On the BTC-S37 do You use Windows?
@@benoitarteau2078 no, I use hiveos, never tried windows with those
@@cheetokat8255 yes, I have some in 4 or 5 GPU setups. If you do an 8 GPU setup with those they should either be low power, or be blower style cards so the spacing doesn't matter as much
@@cheetokat8255 I've also thought about using risers on every other slot and making it a double decker rig. Maybe if I get more cards
I have 2 of the AS Rock H510's which is 6 GPU riserless + 1 mining port for a riser. the biggest issue is finding how to mount it. this looks like a better design. The 510 post holes don't line up with anything I've found. I have floor fans on my boards. push and pulling from the cards.
Do you know how to power the first 2 PCI slots? There are only 4 molex connectors.....but 6 PCI clots. Thanks.
@@craig8847 Just slot the card in and power the cards via their connectors. slots 1 & 2 get their power from the board like a regular 2 PCIE slot MB. the molex are for slots 3-6 only. essentially they're like a riser without being a riser.
No fan plugs? My btc79x5 has some weird fan connections, but I'm just going to jam some pwm fans into them lol. Love the board, aside from the ambient cooling on the cpu, because one of the cards literally sits on top of the cpu. I've had mine shut down a few times due to cpu heat, so I've rigged up a fan for now, but I'm gojng to put some fans on it tonight. Good boards, nice for 3060s!!
nice video boss!
These work great in a case with extreme fans for air flow
i got a whole set from china with ahuge pcu
but it is as loud as an asic miner.
way way easier to set up then the asrock btcpro mb boards i use with risers though
if one likes to go industrial it is great but the smal processor sucks when you want to use a normal OS like ubuntu or widows to experiment
keep up the great work bro
Got my 9 slot 3.0X8 on the way for strictly 3060s...can't wait to get that build going.....thinking about full 16x ribbon cables though, not a fan of that GPU spacing, will see how it goes when I get it.
works with 3060 ?
@@macarondemission9537 I have had 9 3060s rev 1 going for months with 0 problems 24/7, now super happy with my mobo, 2 CPUs with 40 PCIe lanes each means I have 80 total and for 9 3060s only need 72, have 8 extra Pcie lanes unused.
@@Mayhem2019 Thanks a lot !
Which model exacly you have ?
Looks like the GPU makers were a little hasty on giving up the blower fan cards, situations like this you could use them.
Looked interesting, but lost me with using a paper clip to short a 2k power supply. yikes!
You can mix and match AMD and Nvidia on HiveOS?
Yes...
Yes
Yeah?? Even supports dual miners so trex + team red miner works great
RPM - brother how do u and the guys up here deal with step 2, when we go over our limit? i have been turning off my asic during that time? i hate bchydro-
I am very very fortunate having a "farm" rate, so there's no 2 step for me in the basement/barn thankfully of $11.5cents/kwh CAD
@@RedPandaMining awww agroculture land. ic ic hahahaha bastard lol jk good too to hear from u neighbor
@@cryptokarnage6394 you too bro! haha
Have the same board & it went POP yesterday
Need help, I have used 2 3070 mining RVN on HiveOS for a long time. Recently I got 1 3060ti LHR, when I added it into the same rig on HiveOS, it doesn't reconize the card. The miner can't start and I don't see any temperature, power cosumption and hashrates, do I need to update the drives in my HiveOS? Thanks.
These motherboards should be used with server cases along, 4 fan 120 mm at least, its their purpose. And server psu. Single or paired. The most thing is the gen of pci-e’s. For example: to get best of it 3060 you should go gen3, but this is bo the case, cause its gen2
Does it matter if you are mining ravencoin coin since it's not nerfed?
Had a BTC board and heat was always an issue. Fans all over it, even AC duct. It failed about 6 weeks in. Even when it ran, I fought stability issues, with several reboots. I'm out.
Careful with that power supply, it said 90+ gold rating but that doesn't even exist.
hey mate, just with the 6 pins cables the motherboard start?! i mean, u just put the paper clip and start the power supply and that's it !?
Is no one going to talk about the "90 plus" rating on that PSU? I wouldn't use that PSU on such expensive hardware.
Hi there,
Thank You for You vidéos. I enjoy them every day. I have a question about the PCI bus v3 on RTX cards. How the previous version of PCI Express on this MB affect their speeds and profitability?
I have several btc-d37 8 card boards. Fully running it draws 20 watts! Also those additional 6 pin ins may be power outs for the cards like in the d37. You dont need 8 6pins for a laptop cpu 🤔
what cpu do you use with it, do you have any issue with running out of pcie lanes
@@Zack-rz7ov it comes with a laptop cpu, no pcie lane issues tho i have never tried to run more than 8 cards
If you use this motherboard what's the best OS to start with, I planed on using nicehash with windows as a basic rig to my pc but I know there are separate ones but it usually seems to get complicated
@@Supertoddy96 sorry, i have only ever used windoze
@@victorc7373 i might do the same and just stick with the basics that I know
Hi Panda! I also have one of these boards, but do not have a manual... Do you know where I can find a manual for it?
It ran fine for several months, then after a reboot, it decided to only boot with 7 cards, not 8. Didn't matter which card, or which slot... 8 cards and the device would not boot at all.
Runs fine with 7 right now, but would like to know why it decided to change.
Thanks!
The main question is: can this motherboard handle 8 X 3060? And after this video is still a question.. Because I think this is the reason for somebody lookingfor a motherboard like this.
@Red Panda Mining You should try out the HiveOS flasher instead of removing the mSata.
if you can get ASUS "turbo" series or MSI "aero" series graphics that will be much more suitable on this 8 cards mining board
Expensive board, but if it comes with ram, cpu and ssd it's not thaaat bad, considering that you won't need to buy the risers, adaptors etc.. If you are using a server case I guess this is perfect.
Very new at this. So is it common to mix GPU chipsets on same board? Was thinking of a 6 gpu build with all 6600xts to make things uniform as someone new to all this.
not sure riserless boards are safe to use with rtx cards :D but with RX 6600 or older gen gpus I feel like it could work without too much customization for cooling.
have you ever tried AMD SMA on AMD card such as 6800/xt for mining ? therefore smart memory access does affect mining ?
Will the power consumption of risers that consume between 40 and 80 watts be eliminated with this motherboard?
Or is the power consumption on the motherboard?
1:17 90 PLUS? What is that? There is "80 plus" standard, but there is no "90 plus" standards...
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На этой плате стоят 3 MSI 3060 первой ревизии, одинаковые. К одной соединён монитор, на других затычки. При первом запуске все давали по 48 хешей. Спустя какое-то время третья карта (GPU 2), почему-то начала выдавать 25 хешей. Причем перезагрузка Рига и системы не помогла. Упорно даёт 25 хешей. В чём может быть причина?
Система - винда 10. Драйвер 470.05. Все необходимые условия и танцы с бубнами соблюдены для вывода полного хеша.
@Red panda mining. Just got a Btc-X79, dual CPU 9 gpu mobo similar to your video. it has win 10 pre installed and it seems extremely slow, freezes and restarts often and I even have troible installing my win 10 on it. I tested 2 boards and it seems to be like that? What do you think the problem could be? Bad hardware? Bad os? Thanks in advance
Do you think the motherboard would be able to handle a 8x Nvidia Rtx 3070 ti setup?
So would 3060's, no LHR, work on this? PCIe 3/4 is required, correct? Thanks for another awesome video. :)
following
NeariX replied to someone else's comment and said it wouldn't work for the original 3060s - "Not enough PCIe lanes on the cpu and the gpu slots only have a single PCIe lane wired to it."
so it is ok to set cards at hugely different watt on this mother board? I'm planning to put in a 3080ti oc at 280W and 7x 3060 at 115W.
I have try to use 2 psu on this board but it seems that doesn't work because the pcie slots are all interconnected; it pulls 90+% power from one psu according to my wattmeter on wall and doesn't pull much from 2nd psu. I connected half the motherboard pcie 6 pin to one psu and the rest to another and each psu plugged into 4 cards each.
always cautious of those PSU's rather stick with a 6gpu and an evga 1300w psu normally can get under 1000w full load 150x6 should be 900 lol with a ssd and fans 1000w
Hi, if i want to use riser for the GPU on this motherboard, do you have any idea how to power on the motherboard? since it doesn't have the 24 pin slot. thanks
very interesting motherboard, thank you for video
Just get a mining box or single layer rack with delta fan mounted. Heat issue resolve.
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i have been waiting on mine seems like forever lol
What about nvidia 3080 ftw part 2 ?
Got v1.11 too bad the LAN does not work. Getting a replacement is such a pain but usb wifi dongle works. Hope all pcie works or else.
Can you please provide links for that red LAN cable.. looks too thin to me.