me watching this on a PC while mining on an RX 580 going full blast powered by one molex to 6pin PCI to 2x PCI-E 8pin... Uhmmm.... How much is that per wire? :)))))
Favorite quote: When talking about SATA power, "It's going to heat up it's going to melt, potentially cause a fire, burn your mining rig and your whole house down, and you'll be super sad and very far away from break even." HAHA. Great video.
But 75w delivers the x16 port and a riser connects to the x1 so it would not be consuming 75w since only from x16 to x16 it would consume 75w and from x1 to x16 there would be less consumption available for the gpu
I use sata conectors in my 1660S risers more then year and i never have problem or feel some cabels are hot ;) nothing problem for this low volt cards. I use for 10cards rig oynly one PSU Andyson Prominer 1800W and all runing very well
I LOVE how you take it step by step and explain terms when you use them instead of just assuming we're all experts and know it. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING DEEPLY, ALBEIT SOME MIGHT THINK ITS UNNECESSARY I REALLY LIKE IT. THANK you, it's refreshing. Subbed.
Here is some data about Molex/AMP connectors for you. Molex is the OG daddy of the 4pins originally were three typical pin sizes: 1.57 mm (0.062 in), 2.13 mm (0.084 in), and 2.36 mm (0.093 in). The 1.57 mm pin can carry 5 A of current, while the 2.36 mm can carry 8.5 A. AMP later released the lock Mate and Lock in 1963, they used a .093 in pin rated at 11A. Later on Molex updated their connector to be compatible with AMP and also Mate and Lock so today there is virtually no difference. Its "safe" to assume at least 8.5amp per PIN which at 12V is about 102Watts. Currently Molex rates the connector (which includes the pin) at 13AMP max. So connector and PIN wise more than able to handle the 75Watt the pit fall is if you have 4 of these connectors on a 18AWG wire you can pull max 16A on the wire so using up to 2 connectors would still be the limit, that is if you PSU is happy to supply the 16A needed on that peripheral output, which would for safety limit you to one connector taking into account cheaper components or manufacturing techinques used to cut cost. FYI AMP Part is AMP 1-480424-0 AMP 60619-1 AMP 1-480426-0 AMP 60620-1 13 amps
THIS, is what I was looking for. I use Molex Micro-Fit connections for 3D printers; they can handle 8.5A and they are tiny compared to PSU connections. So I knew someone in here must have an idea of modern standards. Thank you!
@@RedFoxCrypto Could we maybe get a similar explanation on PCIe bandwidth? I have a trouble finding solid info on how many PCIe slots with XY amount of lanes I can split into XY amount of risers, etc... Basically trying to know, how I can calculate GPU hardcap for each MTB. THANK YOU
I'm about to start my journey building my first rig.. This is pure gold Thank you for taking your time to share your experience and research! The world would be a better place if more people were like you. Awesome! 😊🙏
Know this is an old post but wanted to say thank you. I'm nervous about turning on my 1st rig setup and your explanation regarding power supply was awesome!
This is an outstanding, high quality video- thank you so much. I have boggled my mind over this for years. The reality is, we know for a fact that you can indeed, put multiple GPU's (RX 570/480 for example) on a single SATA. Why? Well the answer must be that the GPU (by design) pulls more energy from the 6-pin PCIE power connection on the GPU- not from the riser (or the motherboard). What I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see is a matrix, GPU-by-GPU, that details the amount of energy pulled by from the riser, vs how much energy is pulled at the PCI 6-pin connector integrated into the GPU. My experience with 480's: Multiple GPU risers on SATA is no issue. Multiple GPU's connected to same 6-pin PCI is a firebomb waiting to happen. To solve this riddle and most effectively (and safely) use the connections afforded us on an ATX power supply- we must know GPU by-GPU how much energy is pulled from the riser and how much is pulled by the 6-pin PCIE. The reason why you keep seeing miners using SATA is that in some conditions you can indeed power not only a single riser- but multiple risers without issue. But then, on the next model/manufacturer of a given GPU- you have an issue. Does this make sense what I am writing?
Thank you dude! It absolutely makes sense. It all comes down to is how is this specific GPU going to get the power it needs. People having experiences like the ones you've had is why it's such a divisive topic. Your 480s simply pull way less power than the 54w given on a SATA strand. Yet, if you plugged in different cards it could be very dangerous. Since we don't that specific information, per card, we can't make those decisions. I also wonder how much of this depends on the algorithm the GPU is working on. I remember when KawPow came out people were burning all types of connections that had typically worked fine for years. Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment. Happy mining!
@@RedFoxCrypto Right on Bro. So Have you seen that box that SpaceGoats built and gave to Red Panda? you plug your ATX power into the box, then one connection to the riser and a second connection to the GPU. From there you can specifically see what specifically is doing what from boot up to mining start and then full hash achieved. That is the only way I know of to do this. But I don't have a SpaceGoats box and I don't have 50 varieties of cards. So in the end- what you created will keep people safe and that is the most important thing. Your instructions do not however optimize ATX power distribution. Safety is admittedly more important, but I would like to achieve most. Hey I'm a miner- I want the best of both worlds!
I'm already a seasoned miner, with 6 years under my belt That being said, this is a fantastic video! New miners out there, watch this video until the end!
This type of content is what we need from all experienced miners...pratical stuff...people talk and talk for hours but not a single piece of pratical advice...thanks a lot for the video
How many risers did you connect with one cable? Never, ever connect more than 2 things. Even then there is a risk. 3 or 4 you are guaranteed to fry something. I have one card connected with sata and even that is the card what is drawing least power, 3060 with a 58% power limit. I hate that they even make sata power cables that have 4 plugs to connect to.
I am a technician since 1998. It is difficult to make customer's understand' why they need good quality cables. People kind of bargain for cheapest possible way out. I would recommend them this video because, the way you explained the math - even a 4th grader would understand. Great Presentation and Excellent Explanation . Loved it.
Its also good practice to view the connectors with a thermal imaging camera (a cheap one is fine) while under full load just to be certain there's not a poor connection with a pin somewhere. Relatively new to mining, but not new to dealing with 12v high-current projects. Good video too, I never realized the SATA power connectors had such a low current rating! They shouldn't offer it on the risers - just asking for trouble.
Awesome video! The only thing that was missing for me is how to connect that many GPU'S to a single PSU. The one you have in the description only has 2 pcie outputs. Is there any other adapter used to power more pcie cables?
I have an old 240w Dell OEM power supply. It has 2 floppy drive power cables and i simply connect 12 pci-e splitters to those cables and i'm golden. After watching your video, i plan to use my extra molex cable to power my 32 RGB fans. Lol... just kidding... I'll power my entire rig from a USB port from my Chromebook =) (PS: i love your content. SuBsCriBeD!!!)
When you're using the PCIe splitter with the PCIE cable from the PSU, do you plug it into 8pin or 6pin on the PSU? Video was really helpful man, if you care about your rig watch this video.....
The thing is with multiple cards that require multiple 6/8 peg connectors you run short on them very quickly. I think its wonderful that in that case you can use good ol' molex to at least power the risers. Saves a few peg slots and cables for the real stuff.
Hey men! You saved my rig and eventually my house. I built a rig and when searching on the web how to power risers I found a video with a guy powering all the cards with SATA. So I thought no problem. I has 3080s all in one 4 sata cable… glad I found your youtube channel so I could stop my rig and properly connect the risers. I owe you a dinner!
I’m so glad I stumbled across this, I’m in the final stages and was about to turn my miner on using sata, now I’m totally redoing my power supply setup all over
Hey Red Fox, I was curious at 14:45, that splitter, would that also "split" the power? So I can't have 2 risers on it? Would then the total be 150W and NOT 75W for 2 risers? or am I missing something?
Hey, man just wanted to say props. Everytime I get into one of these projects it's always a struggle to dig through what to do and not just rely on people who say "this is fine, I've done it forever" saved me hiura and great video
@@RedFoxCrypto YOu probably don't need one for most things. That 12 Pro Max has an amazing camera. I suspected it was something like that :). I use a mix of a Canon 70D, Go Pro and iPhone.
I've watched and read 6 guides on this exact topic already and this is the first one that actually explained... anything. Thanks for acknowledging that the people watching this might need some foundational knowledge and context, but not explaining it like we're children.
You're welcome man. Of all my videos this one was really important to me. I wanted to get that foundational knowledge myself and find a way to share it out to others. Thank you for appreciating the "why" and not just the fast answer. Happy mining dude!
Excellent video...most are crap and don’t even show you the GPU properly connected to the power unit. You show it and explain it all...including the pitfalls of Santa and moles. Many Thanks....
This is the most useful mining advise I have ever watched, listened to, or read. Power specs for these ports are not front and center, and the power draw seems to differ from card to card. Using only the 6-pin connectors for my risers fixed intermittent problems I have had for years. Thank you!
What about a cpu 8pin to 2 x 6+2 pin output cable adapter? I can't find any information but the cpu cable would be rated enough for around 330w if i'm correct
You have 288watts to play with with an 8 pin from the psu. 75 watts per riser is 300watts so your over. Will the risers ever pull 300 watts unlikely but theres no point gambling on it even if its low chance. You could power 3 and give yourself some headroom
Yeah! this video is definitely correct & informative! I experience burning a sata connector connected to riser last 2018 using rx 480 4gb gpu. Luckily I smell the burnt cable while at home and immediately turned off the rig and didn't break my gpu (only the cable)...+1 sub & definitely LIKE!
some GPUs actually turn off their fans if it dosnt need it, my 1080 ti fans never runs if i browse the internet, and not loading it, but they spin up if i forinstance launch a game
So I just put together my first rig and I was powering 3 risers using an esata psu cable. You don't want to know which cards I have on this rig (power hogs). When I went up to 6 cards the rig became unstable. It would go offline or have a lot of rejected shares. After watching this video, I replaced the risers with the ones second to last you mentioned. I got rid of all the sata to 6pin cables. I replaced them with 3x 6pin cables. Each cable powers 2 risers. The rig immediately looks more stable, even shaving almost 25 watts from the get go. Thanks for this golden information!
I'm building my first mining rig at the moment, 6xRX5700XT. The power connection to the risers was one of the last questions. Thank you for answering it, nice video!!
@@RedFoxCrypto I'm very excited to run it for the first time. Today I was really lucky to buy the last two cards for an acceptable price. They should arrive in a few days and then I will hit the 300🚀😬...
Great !! So much detail info but right now I don’t have this splitters but I’m planning to buy some, my question is, can I just power gpu and it’s respective riser using the cable that came with my psu? (This cable have 6+2 pin connector. Thanks in advance.
@@RedFoxCrypto thanks for you answer you are the best :) and taking advantage of your experience what do you think about this? I was trying to add a 3rd gpu using my first gpu riser because gpu 1 and 2 are directly connected to motherboard running flawlessly so I put everything together for this 3rd gpu power them (gpu and riser) with the pcie 8 pin cable but when I hit power button all gpu and cpu fans turns on apparently working fine but motherboard shown no signal of life, no error lights no power on peripherals so It took about 3 hours to figure out the error, I fixed it disconnecting everything from mother and removing its battery then I reconnect everything but not riser and new gpu now everything is working again with 2 gpu directly to mother so I’m 100% sure that the riser was the problem and I have decided no to add 3gpu, I don’t want to try another riser until I receive the appropriate splitters and connect everything like you showed on your video, so do you think it was just a “bad riser “ or it was not the appropriate way to power new gpu and riser from one single 8 pcie cable? (This cable is the stock 8pin cable that comes with psu and have 2 6+2 connections ) thanks a lot in advance and sorry for the !letter :D
Would you be able to make a video regarding electrical safety, like if you have to have a dedicated breaker, are able to use surge protectors, avoiding electrical fires? I’m finding so much conflicting information and don’t know if I have to do all of this for a six card rig.
I never touched risers before cause of random “my house = pile of ash” stories (and since I didn’t have enough GPUs to justify it) but now, I’m getting to a point where I can’t just shove all of them into the motherboard so this video was real helpful.
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Wikipedia says that the 2.36mm molex can deliver 8.5A, and given their large surface area I'm pretty sure it can do the 75W. Also, looking into the Molex website, when you select the 5A connectors, you get a few that are obviously smaller than PC molex. Still, people should always use PCIe power connectors. Also no, TDP is not power draw, TDP stands for Thermal Design Power and it deals with temperature and heat, not power, lots of people get that wrong. A CPU with a TDP of 75W, can pull more than 100W of power quite easily.
Great video. Noob here: So, it's a 8pin from the PSU with 6pin on the other side, which connects to the 6pin splitter which has two 8pins (if you want to power two raisers), but the connection on the raiser card is 6pins.
Thank for you this very good video. My problem is as follows, when I connect the PCIe connector to the PCIe riser, the PSU does not boot up, I guess there's a short somewhere (have tried different cables and risers though), however, when I use the SATA connector, everything goes well ... what can I do? I'm using PCIe risers v8 and v10
I didn’t even finish this video before running into my mining room and shutting 2 card rig down. I kick myself for not doing my due diligence since I have a deep background in industrial electronics. Thanks man!
I wish I watched this before wiring my rig… it was running for almost a year and burned a molex yesterday 🤦🏽♂️… I also had a bridge to another card… thanks for this so helpful
Just got one riser burnt through sata to 6 pin converter ... Thank GOD my 3060ti didn't get any sorts of damage ... Thanks for the video, will have to look for splitters and server PSU
Thank you for explaining it like I’ve never seen a computer in my life most other videos I’ve found on this just glide past most of the things you explained in detail thank you
Dude, that video save me so much time, i've tried to do it by myself without any info, and fried my old 5700XT( still wanna save it tho), but thanks to you i've understand something that i've never really tried to understand, it was clear and so easy, thanks a lot !
New 2 week old miner here, sitting on lunch break at Molex watching your video. Felt like you were asking me specifically about our cables! Lol. Sadly I can’t answer your questions, I just plate the pins in the housings. If you write down a specific question or 2 you have about the Molex connectors, I could possibly ask my supervisors and work with you to get an answer. Great video!
Wow that's crazy dude!! Welcome to mining! My biggest question is what exact pin part number is being supplied to the big PSU manufacturers (EVGA, Corsair, etc) to use in their PSU Molex cables. Knowing that I can look up the specs of it, see the amount of amperage it's rated for, and confidently know the amount of wattage the cable can handle.
@@RedFoxCrypto I need some used graphic cards and motherboards to start with can any of you be of help. I'm from Ghana and I have been trying to mine small coins. Thanks
Use server psus . Breakout boards from parallelminer (x11a i prefer). 16ga wiring for for the 6 pin. 1 rail per riser. Solid stability. 94 % efficiency.
can the same pcie splitters be used for 3070 ti? I mean the way you connected the splitter to riser and gpu or is it best connect just the splitters to two risers.
Thank you very much for the information. I'm not using what I've learnt from you for mining, but to relocate a PCIE 1x to a different part of my PC case, because otherwise it would be directly in front of my GPU.
Very informative video. I have watched similar video like this before. However, it also depends on GPU type/model. I have been using Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W (16AWG wires) and similar (if not same) riser as in this video for my rigs. I used SATA cable to power not one but two risers from each SATA cable and all of them have been running fine for many months. Cables ran very cold. I didn't feel warm at all from SATA cables. My GPUs are 6x RX 5600 XT (66-70Watt/card ), 6xGTX 1660 S (70-75Watt/card). All wattages are reported from HiveOs
BBT Testing if you don't believe me: ua-cam.com/video/8GCHPTFH-70/v-deo.html
Can you update the pcie splitter link to something in stock?
as mentioned PCIE is 75watts, why in the video they are getting more than that from the riser ?
@@sapnupuas8235 I'm wondering that myself. I was surprised to see that.
@@sebastiaocunhareis925 my thought too
me watching this on a PC while mining on an RX 580 going full blast powered by one molex to 6pin PCI to 2x PCI-E 8pin... Uhmmm.... How much is that per wire? :)))))
Favorite quote: When talking about SATA power, "It's going to heat up it's going to melt, potentially cause a fire, burn your mining rig and your whole house down, and you'll be super sad and very far away from break even." HAHA. Great video.
Hahaha. Thanks David!
But 75w delivers the x16 port and a riser connects to the x1 so it would not be consuming 75w since only from x16 to x16 it would consume 75w and from x1 to x16 there would be less consumption available for the gpu
I use sata conectors in my 1660S risers more then year and i never have problem or feel some cabels are hot ;) nothing problem for this low volt cards. I use for 10cards rig oynly one PSU Andyson Prominer 1800W and all runing very well
@@maxbiagi3091 yeah it really just depends what cards your using I run sata on some 1060s w no issues but id never run it on my 3080s or 1080s
I thought if it couldn't get enough power it wouldn't turn on.
This video is a mandatory watch for all new miners! 🙌 ⛏
Thanks dude!
glad i ran into it. :-)
@@RedFoxCrypto thanks. Def helped me get an understanding of powering and the context and standards from which it was taken. Thanks for the links
hai.. Sebs Hezlow here
Yes I agree, im new and watched this video. very very helpful. thank you
from a noob miner: best explanation ever on how to power up your rig
Thanks buddy! Glad I could help.
true!
@@RedFoxCrypto i couldnt find a video that actually shows this, everyone skips it. thank you bro
Ditto
I LOVE how you take it step by step and explain terms when you use them instead of just assuming we're all experts and know it. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING DEEPLY, ALBEIT SOME MIGHT THINK ITS UNNECESSARY I REALLY LIKE IT. THANK you, it's refreshing. Subbed.
Dude, thank you. That means a lot to me, seriously. Happy mining brother!
You probably just saved me from being homeless! Thanks for the good info.
You're welcome Greg! Thanks for watching buddy.
Here is some data about Molex/AMP connectors for you. Molex is the OG daddy of the 4pins originally were three typical pin sizes: 1.57 mm (0.062 in), 2.13 mm (0.084 in), and 2.36 mm (0.093 in). The 1.57 mm pin can carry 5 A of current, while the 2.36 mm can carry 8.5 A. AMP later released the lock Mate and Lock in 1963, they used a .093 in pin rated at 11A. Later on Molex updated their connector to be compatible with AMP and also Mate and Lock so today there is virtually no difference. Its "safe" to assume at least 8.5amp per PIN which at 12V is about 102Watts. Currently Molex rates the connector (which includes the pin) at 13AMP max.
So connector and PIN wise more than able to handle the 75Watt the pit fall is if you have 4 of these connectors on a 18AWG wire you can pull max 16A on the wire so using up to 2 connectors would still be the limit, that is if you PSU is happy to supply the 16A needed on that peripheral output, which would for safety limit you to one connector taking into account cheaper components or manufacturing techinques used to cut cost.
FYI AMP Part is AMP 1-480424-0 AMP 60619-1 AMP 1-480426-0 AMP 60620-1 13 amps
THIS, is what I was looking for. I use Molex Micro-Fit connections for 3D printers; they can handle 8.5A and they are tiny compared to PSU connections. So I knew someone in here must have an idea of modern standards. Thank you!
can i use molex to power my 1050ti gpu riser ??
Thanks for the information Sir , i really appriciate the time you took for this . 🙏🏻
Yes, this is a quality content, and we always wanted these kind of informative videos. You deserve more subscribers. Keep up the good work.
Dude, thank you! I very much appreciate the kind words. Happy mining!
+1 here, Thank You!
@@RedFoxCrypto Could we maybe get a similar explanation on PCIe bandwidth? I have a trouble finding solid info on how many PCIe slots with XY amount of lanes I can split into XY amount of risers, etc... Basically trying to know, how I can calculate GPU hardcap for each MTB. THANK YOU
I'm about to start my journey building my first rig.. This is pure gold Thank you for taking your time to share your experience and research! The world would be a better place if more people were like you. Awesome! 😊🙏
Thank you! That means a lot. This video took a lot of time and research to put together. Happy mining brother.
Me too
This is some high quality content that's rare on UA-cam nowadays. Thank you, sir.
Thank you dude!
Know this is an old post but wanted to say thank you. I'm nervous about turning on my 1st rig setup and your explanation regarding power supply was awesome!
Thank you dude! Glad I could help. I made this video hoping it would help others for many years to come! Happy mining brother.
This is an outstanding, high quality video- thank you so much. I have boggled my mind over this for years. The reality is, we know for a fact that you can indeed, put multiple GPU's (RX 570/480 for example) on a single SATA. Why? Well the answer must be that the GPU (by design) pulls more energy from the 6-pin PCIE power connection on the GPU- not from the riser (or the motherboard). What I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see is a matrix, GPU-by-GPU, that details the amount of energy pulled by from the riser, vs how much energy is pulled at the PCI 6-pin connector integrated into the GPU. My experience with 480's: Multiple GPU risers on SATA is no issue. Multiple GPU's connected to same 6-pin PCI is a firebomb waiting to happen. To solve this riddle and most effectively (and safely) use the connections afforded us on an ATX power supply- we must know GPU by-GPU how much energy is pulled from the riser and how much is pulled by the 6-pin PCIE. The reason why you keep seeing miners using SATA is that in some conditions you can indeed power not only a single riser- but multiple risers without issue. But then, on the next model/manufacturer of a given GPU- you have an issue. Does this make sense what I am writing?
Thank you dude! It absolutely makes sense. It all comes down to is how is this specific GPU going to get the power it needs.
People having experiences like the ones you've had is why it's such a divisive topic. Your 480s simply pull way less power than the 54w given on a SATA strand. Yet, if you plugged in different cards it could be very dangerous. Since we don't that specific information, per card, we can't make those decisions.
I also wonder how much of this depends on the algorithm the GPU is working on. I remember when KawPow came out people were burning all types of connections that had typically worked fine for years.
Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment. Happy mining!
@@RedFoxCrypto Right on Bro. So Have you seen that box that SpaceGoats built and gave to Red Panda? you plug your ATX power into the box, then one connection to the riser and a second connection to the GPU. From there you can specifically see what specifically is doing what from boot up to mining start and then full hash achieved. That is the only way I know of to do this. But I don't have a SpaceGoats box and I don't have 50 varieties of cards. So in the end- what you created will keep people safe and that is the most important thing. Your instructions do not however optimize ATX power distribution. Safety is admittedly more important, but I would like to achieve most. Hey I'm a miner- I want the best of both worlds!
@@robertmicciche5375 Yes! BBT has an awesome one of those boxes too. I'd love one someday.
English isn't my first language, but you're speaking so slow and clear that I can understand every single word. Good video and explanation
That's great Emanual! Glad I could help. Happy mining brother!
@@RedFoxCrypto Did you watch voskcoin's latest video? It doesn't look good for ethereum mining unfortunately. I was just about to start mining :(
I'm already a seasoned miner, with 6 years under my belt
That being said, this is a fantastic video! New miners out there, watch this video until the end!
Thank you dude!!!
@@RedFoxCrypto hell yeah dude, you're putting out solid content
This type of content is what we need from all experienced miners...pratical stuff...people talk and talk for hours but not a single piece of pratical advice...thanks a lot for the video
Had a sata cable set fire just last week, smelt burning plastic for about 2 minutes before it burst into flames
Yikes! Sorry dude. Hope only the cable was the victim.
Which GPU?
How many risers did you connect with one cable? Never, ever connect more than 2 things. Even then there is a risk. 3 or 4 you are guaranteed to fry something. I have one card connected with sata and even that is the card what is drawing least power, 3060 with a 58% power limit. I hate that they even make sata power cables that have 4 plugs to connect to.
@@redX111t How are you running a 3060 on a riser? Are you stuck at 20Mh/s?
@@sethalexander423 a riser doesnt affect hashrate..
I am a technician since 1998. It is difficult to make customer's understand' why they need good quality cables. People kind of bargain for cheapest possible way out.
I would recommend them this video because, the way you explained the math - even a 4th grader would understand.
Great Presentation and Excellent Explanation . Loved it.
Ah dude thank you so much. That means a lot to me. Thanks for watching and the very kind words. Happy mining!
Its also good practice to view the connectors with a thermal imaging camera (a cheap one is fine) while under full load just to be certain there's not a poor connection with a pin somewhere. Relatively new to mining, but not new to dealing with 12v high-current projects. Good video too, I never realized the SATA power connectors had such a low current rating! They shouldn't offer it on the risers - just asking for trouble.
Thanks Mike. Good call on the thermal camera.
it can be dont by touching connection with finger too
Great Idea...looking into this now.
Thank you sir!
The SATA connector was designed to power a disk, CD players, DVD players.
WOW! Finally someone broke it down for use new miners. THANK YOU!
You're welcome Carlos! Happy mining brother!
Almost powered my 3080 x16 with a Sata. Not knowing much about it I decided to check. And oh boy I'm glad I did. Thank you!! +Sub
Whew! Glad I could help brother! Happy mining!
Lol damn a 3080
Wow this video just saved countless rigs melting or even houses from being burnt down! Thank you 🤗
Thanks for watching buddy!
I wanted to say "Thank you so much you for the content!" Exactly what I needed and about to build. Saved my house from disaster :)
You're welcome Alan! Thanks for commenting brother. Happy mining!
I'm very happy that I landed on this video. It's is perfectly explained.
Are you studying electrical engineering? You know a lot about electricity.
Thanks brother glad I could help!
Oh man, thanks for the work and all the research that you've put into this, it is admirable. Wishing you all the best!
Man, in late 2023, I can't tell you enough how important this video is. Thanks
Thanks bud.
This is the kinda physics lesson I wish I had in school
Yes they dont teach you the cool stiff in school , they teach u only the boring stuff that u will never ever need
@@ademchokri8478 They do teach about P=VxI, don't they?
@@ademchokri8478 chemistry was fun tho
Swapped all my risers out last week and bought the $54 server psu thanks for the great content. Keep it up.
Thanks buddy! Glad I could help. Happy mining brother!
Great explanation!!
Thanks buddy! And thank you for all your content in the mining space. You’re awesome.
@@RedFoxCrypto much appreciated! You as well! I'm surprised I wasn't subbed, your content is A+ ⛏️⛏️
Thanks!
Great video mike! Love the way you break it down without jargons and explain clearly👍
Thank you dude! I appreciate you!
Thank you so much for this video, I appreciate you explaining cable power ratings and how to safely power risers. We all got to keep safe👍🏾👌🏾
You’re welcome. Thanks brother!
This is by far the most thorough description I've seen, incredible man, spectacular video. Thanks.
one of your gpu fans stopped working on the video, that was awsome timing.
i think it wasn't gone bad, Latest gpu sometime run only one fan it it thinks Temps are very low.
I had a evga 1070 that did that, some evga have memory sensors and will turn on the fan over the memory only if it reaches a certain temp
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. You're a good speaker and it was easy to follow.
Thank you dude!
Awesome video!
The only thing that was missing for me is how to connect that many GPU'S to a single PSU. The one you have in the description only has 2 pcie outputs.
Is there any other adapter used to power more pcie cables?
I have an old 240w Dell OEM power supply. It has 2 floppy drive power cables and i simply connect 12 pci-e splitters to those cables and i'm golden. After watching your video, i plan to use my extra molex cable to power my 32 RGB fans. Lol... just kidding... I'll power my entire rig from a USB port from my Chromebook =) (PS: i love your content. SuBsCriBeD!!!)
When you're using the PCIe splitter with the PCIE cable from the PSU, do you plug it into 8pin or 6pin on the PSU? Video was really helpful man, if you care about your rig watch this video.....
6 pin goes to PSU, 6+2 (8 pin) goes to the gpu.
Thank you! I was about to use those sata to pcie connectors. You propably saved my house from burning down. Thank you
You’re welcome dude! Be safe!
What are your thoughts on using the 24pin adapter to combine 2 x 650w psus into one? Is that safe?
The thing is with multiple cards that require multiple 6/8 peg connectors you run short on them very quickly. I think its wonderful that in that case you can use good ol' molex to at least power the risers. Saves a few peg slots and cables for the real stuff.
Hey men! You saved my rig and eventually my house. I built a rig and when searching on the web how to power risers I found a video with a guy powering all the cards with SATA. So I thought no problem. I has 3080s all in one 4 sata cable… glad I found your youtube channel so I could stop my rig and properly connect the risers.
I owe you a dinner!
Glad I was able to help out buddy! Stay safe and happy mining!
You break it down to the bone brother, awesome info 👍👍
Thanks dude! Thank you for watching.
I’m so glad I stumbled across this, I’m in the final stages and was about to turn my miner on using sata, now I’m totally redoing my power supply setup all over
Glad I could help. Stay safe brother and happy mining!
Hey Red Fox, I was curious at 14:45, that splitter, would that also "split" the power? So I can't have 2 risers on it? Would then the total be 150W and NOT 75W for 2 risers? or am I missing something?
dude listen it again he explains the total power that 6 pin really gets. its the female 6 pin on the gpu than can only get 75w.
@@MrBarosxp Yeah, noticed it later. Would have been great to have on a data sheet. I'll get to it later so I can see what i need for my GPUs.
what a great video.. i had no idea about the sata power limit and considering raven..!
Hey, man just wanted to say props. Everytime I get into one of these projects it's always a struggle to dig through what to do and not just rely on people who say "this is fine, I've done it forever" saved me hiura and great video
I am not a miner, but explanation is super useful, thank you!
Thanks mate a grey area and something every noob asks, sometimes the basic info is what one needs.
Thanks for watching and the comment buddy!
Awesome, simple clear precise. Thanks buddy
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Such a great overview. Nice, simple and easy to understand. And I love that camera! What are you shooting with? That image is solid!
Thanks brother! It’s my iPhone 12 Pro Max. What do you use? I’d love to get a dedicated camera one day, but this works okay for now!
@@RedFoxCrypto YOu probably don't need one for most things. That 12 Pro Max has an amazing camera. I suspected it was something like that :).
I use a mix of a Canon 70D, Go Pro and iPhone.
I've watched and read 6 guides on this exact topic already and this is the first one that actually explained... anything. Thanks for acknowledging that the people watching this might need some foundational knowledge and context, but not explaining it like we're children.
You're welcome man. Of all my videos this one was really important to me. I wanted to get that foundational knowledge myself and find a way to share it out to others. Thank you for appreciating the "why" and not just the fast answer. Happy mining dude!
What are your thoughts on PCIE cables that come pre-split (so 8 & a 6/2 combo) for dual PCIE GPUs?
It is fine as long as you keep the wattage down. Also depends on the cable quality. I avoid ever going over 200W on a single cable.
Excellent video...most are crap and don’t even show you the GPU properly connected to the power unit. You show it and explain it all...including the pitfalls of Santa and moles. Many Thanks....
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words. Happy mining.
Best explanation I have seen. Good video.
Thanks buddy! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
This is the most useful mining advise I have ever watched, listened to, or read. Power specs for these ports are not front and center, and the power draw seems to differ from card to card. Using only the 6-pin connectors for my risers fixed intermittent problems I have had for years. Thank you!
Awesome dude! Glad I could help out. Happy mining brother.
What about a cpu 8pin to 2 x 6+2 pin output cable adapter? I can't find any information but the cpu cable would be rated enough for around 330w if i'm correct
These are the kind of videos newbies like me need .. videos that break down and explain what's what . And for that.. I thank you...
Thank you dude! Thanks for watching.
With my 1600w power supply, they gave me one PCI-E cable with two 8-pins. Can I safely split that cable twice to power 4 risers?
I wouldn’t personally. I keep to 2 risers per PCIe cable.
You have 288watts to play with with an 8 pin from the psu.
75 watts per riser is 300watts so your over. Will the risers ever pull 300 watts unlikely but theres no point gambling on it even if its low chance.
You could power 3 and give yourself some headroom
@@chipspclounge7871 could i split a 8 pin to 2x8 pin and power a r9 390x?
@@0vers33r1 yeah TDP is 275watt so you have 13 watts spare
Yeah! this video is definitely correct & informative! I experience burning a sata connector connected to riser last 2018 using rx 480 4gb gpu. Luckily I smell the burnt cable while at home and immediately turned off the rig and didn't break my gpu (only the cable)...+1 sub & definitely LIKE!
Thanks John! Sorry that happened to you buddy, but I'm glad you caught it. I appreciate the watch and the comment. Happy mining!
17:38 a fan just died and revived at 18:24 lol
some GPUs actually turn off their fans if it dosnt need it, my 1080 ti fans never runs if i browse the internet, and not loading it, but they spin up if i forinstance launch a game
That last conclusion with good and bad was funny.
But thanks for explaining all the connection it does help me.
Hey Red Fox, one questino, does the risers spend 75w of energy themselves or these watts are the same the gpu would consume?
It just goes through the riser to the card.
So I just put together my first rig and I was powering 3 risers using an esata psu cable. You don't want to know which cards I have on this rig (power hogs). When I went up to 6 cards the rig became unstable. It would go offline or have a lot of rejected shares. After watching this video, I replaced the risers with the ones second to last you mentioned. I got rid of all the sata to 6pin cables. I replaced them with 3x 6pin cables. Each cable powers 2 risers. The rig immediately looks more stable, even shaving almost 25 watts from the get go. Thanks for this golden information!
17:09 ..... I'll leave that there for anyone in a hard rush.
This should be on top.. Pin this man
Fantastic video! Great delivery and I appreciate you valuing your viewers by being, clean and concise. Subbed! Thanks!
Thank you Stephen!
I'm worried about the fan at the end of the video. Good thing it came back to say Bye.
I'm building my first mining rig at the moment, 6xRX5700XT. The power connection to the risers was one of the last questions. Thank you for answering it, nice video!!
Thanks buddy! That’s going to be a sick rig. Congrats dude!
@@RedFoxCrypto I'm very excited to run it for the first time. Today I was really lucky to buy the last two cards for an acceptable price. They should arrive in a few days and then I will hit the 300🚀😬...
very informative video. I haven't found one explaining it like you just did. Not even from the other "Tech" channels.
Great !! So much detail info but right now I don’t have this splitters but I’m planning to buy some, my question is, can I just power gpu and it’s respective riser using the cable that came with my psu? (This cable have 6+2 pin connector. Thanks in advance.
Yes you can as long as the cable can reach. I know most of mine have a pretty short split on them.
@@RedFoxCrypto thanks for you answer you are the best :) and taking advantage of your experience what do you think about this? I was trying to add a 3rd gpu using my first gpu riser because gpu 1 and 2 are directly connected to motherboard running flawlessly so I put everything together for this 3rd gpu power them (gpu and riser) with the pcie 8 pin cable but when I hit power button all gpu and cpu fans turns on apparently working fine but motherboard shown no signal of life, no error lights no power on peripherals so It took about 3 hours to figure out the error, I fixed it disconnecting everything from mother and removing its battery then I reconnect everything but not riser and new gpu now everything is working again with 2 gpu directly to mother so I’m 100% sure that the riser was the problem and I have decided no to add 3gpu, I don’t want to try another riser until I receive the appropriate splitters and connect everything like you showed on your video, so do you think it was just a “bad riser “ or it was not the appropriate way to power new gpu and riser from one single 8 pcie cable? (This cable is the stock 8pin cable that comes with psu and have 2 6+2 connections ) thanks a lot in advance and sorry for the !letter :D
You saved me and figured out why my system doesn't recognize my gpus.
You say everything information I was looking for. (Except the molex information 😉)
Thank you so much
I wish I watched this before burning my power supply. Great content. Thanks!
Would you be able to make a video regarding electrical safety, like if you have to have a dedicated breaker, are able to use surge protectors, avoiding electrical fires? I’m finding so much conflicting information and don’t know if I have to do all of this for a six card rig.
I never touched risers before cause of random “my house = pile of ash” stories (and since I didn’t have enough GPUs to justify it) but now, I’m getting to a point where I can’t just shove all of them into the motherboard so this video was real helpful.
Glad I could help! Thank you for watching.
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Wikipedia says that the 2.36mm molex can deliver 8.5A, and given their large surface area I'm pretty sure it can do the 75W.
Also, looking into the Molex website, when you select the 5A connectors, you get a few that are obviously smaller than PC molex.
Still, people should always use PCIe power connectors.
Also no, TDP is not power draw, TDP stands for Thermal Design Power and it deals with temperature and heat, not power, lots of people get that wrong.
A CPU with a TDP of 75W, can pull more than 100W of power quite easily.
Great video.
Noob here: So, it's a 8pin from the PSU with 6pin on the other side, which connects to the 6pin splitter which has two 8pins (if you want to power two raisers), but the connection on the raiser card is 6pins.
After trolling through countless blogs on this subject with no consistent information or opinions I am now clear about this, Cheers 👍
Awesome dude! Glad I could help out. Happy mining brother.
thanks a lot, this is so helpful and save me from a burning rig/house ;)) So for your riser power cable:
- SATA: bad
- Molex: maybe
- Pcie: good
good info. thanks. just slowly getting into mining. used only one single gpu, so the transition to two is a tester for more to come, hopefully.
Can I power a riser thru usb if im using an older graphics card?
SUCH A GREAT and INFORMATIVE video man . LOVED IT ! i shared it to everyone i knew that mine ;)
Thank for you this very good video. My problem is as follows, when I connect the PCIe connector to the PCIe riser, the PSU does not boot up, I guess there's a short somewhere (have tried different cables and risers though), however, when I use the SATA connector, everything goes well ... what can I do? I'm using PCIe risers v8 and v10
I didn’t even finish this video before running into my mining room and shutting 2 card rig down. I kick myself for not doing my due diligence since I have a deep background in industrial electronics. Thanks man!
You are welcome! Stay safe and happy mining!
You made this on my brother's birthday! Thank you sir!
I wish I watched this before wiring my rig… it was running for almost a year and burned a molex yesterday 🤦🏽♂️… I also had a bridge to another card… thanks for this so helpful
Just got one riser burnt through sata to 6 pin converter ... Thank GOD my 3060ti didn't get any sorts of damage ... Thanks for the video, will have to look for splitters and server PSU
Thank you for explaining it like I’ve never seen a computer in my life most other videos I’ve found on this just glide past most of the things you explained in detail thank you
Dude, that video save me so much time, i've tried to do it by myself without any info, and fried my old 5700XT( still wanna save it tho), but thanks to you i've understand something that i've never really tried to understand, it was clear and so easy, thanks a lot !
New 2 week old miner here, sitting on lunch break at Molex watching your video. Felt like you were asking me specifically about our cables! Lol.
Sadly I can’t answer your questions, I just plate the pins in the housings.
If you write down a specific question or 2 you have about the Molex connectors, I could possibly ask my supervisors and work with you to get an answer.
Great video!
Wow that's crazy dude!! Welcome to mining! My biggest question is what exact pin part number is being supplied to the big PSU manufacturers (EVGA, Corsair, etc) to use in their PSU Molex cables. Knowing that I can look up the specs of it, see the amount of amperage it's rated for, and confidently know the amount of wattage the cable can handle.
@@RedFoxCrypto I need some used graphic cards and motherboards to start with can any of you be of help. I'm from Ghana and I have been trying to mine small coins. Thanks
WOW. Fkn nice breakdown MAN!!! I've been looking for this for hours and days. You answered all questions and got me on my way.. Thanks.
AWESOME. Glad I could help buddy. Stay safe and happy mining!
17:40 Who notice that one fan stopped working on gpu
Thanks for nice explains and advice
Thanks dude! I appreciate the view and comment. Happy mining!
Thanks for the video. I've been running the sata power for the last month. Glad I saw this before I burnt my house down haha
Excellent. Just what I needed. All the detail was very helpful. I watched other videos on risers and they didn't answer all my questions. Yours did.
Thanks! I really appreciate that. I put a lot of work into this one.
Use server psus . Breakout boards from parallelminer (x11a i prefer). 16ga wiring for for the 6 pin. 1 rail per riser. Solid stability. 94 % efficiency.
thx bro, nice video! We miners always walk together, search the best way to evolve helping each other
Greetings from Turkey, I love watching your videos. Oh good thing there's a translation. The temperature is around 37 degrees, isn't it too much?
wow, Excelent video, you managed to clear my doubts as to which cable to use, thank you very much.
can the same pcie splitters be used for 3070 ti? I mean the way you connected the splitter to riser and gpu or is it best connect just the splitters to two risers.
should be safe
Clearest, most concise information on the subject I've seen yet. Thanks, mate.
Dude thank you! I appreciate the watch and the feedback. Happy mining brother.
thank you i love your videos, super high quality, get into details, explains everything perfectly.
Thank you so much!
@@RedFoxCrypto NO YOU :P
Thank you very much for the information. I'm not using what I've learnt from you for mining, but to relocate a PCIE 1x to a different part of my PC case, because otherwise it would be directly in front of my GPU.
Very informative video. I have watched similar video like this before. However, it also depends on GPU type/model. I have been using Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W (16AWG wires) and similar (if not same) riser as in this video for my rigs. I used SATA cable to power not one but two risers from each SATA cable and all of them have been running fine for many months. Cables ran very cold. I didn't feel warm at all from SATA cables. My GPUs are 6x RX 5600 XT (66-70Watt/card ), 6xGTX 1660 S (70-75Watt/card). All wattages are reported from HiveOs