Malahit Malachite SDR 2 Radio Original vs Chinese Copy
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2022
- Fully Original standalone DSP Receiver Radio Model DSP2 comparison to ebay purchased Chinese copy version. Unboxing and a look inside both units
More info: www.qsl.net/n9ewo/malahit.html
/ shango066 - Наука та технологія
Just an update, probably already noted in the comments - reached out to the Malahiteam folks and they are still taking orders. I'm in the queue for a 1.5-2 month production schedule. Pay is when the radio is ready to ship, so who knows how the Ruble - USD conversion will look then.
I will pin this but there is such a boycott right now Im not even sure who you could trust to ship it.
@@shango066, don’t disagree at all. I wonder if Georgiy is just hoping it’ll work out when the time comes. I guess we’ll see. Thanks for the pin.
@@lorelei275 PayPal, visa and MasterCard shut down their services in Russia Today. Hope he takes Bitcoin
May have to get a Chinese clone now. I too wrote Malahit. I think only ones selling will be Chinese. Unless some people have ones in the US. That’s an awesome radio Shango.
With the boycotts can you get any updates for the unit or is it not needed?
"I really don't want wanna scratch this thing"
_Immediately points to it with an exacto knife_
Brilliant people can be intermittent idiots, too ;-)
@@jamesplotkin4674 A brief moment of distraction. It happens to Shango sometimes.
He does have the screen protector on it.
We got our orders in just in time. I recently got an eye tube for a Grundig radio. It came from Ukraine...
Me too. From Kharkiv
Purchased many items during the last year from both Russia and Ukraine. Awesome, friendly sellers in both locations. Very careful packing, and fast shipping.
Sad we cannot all live and let live and get along...
@@bradfordaudio Yep, Kharkiv.
Thanks for the heads up on these things. Last year I had no idea they existed. Inspired by your channel I purchased a (genuine) RTL-SDR dongle and I have to say this tech is a LOT of fun. Searching the sw band. Looking at FM subcarriers. Being able to look at IF signals inside radios and local oscillators it's all super cool.
Не ожидал увидеть оборудавание нашего производства" Супер. Люблю ваш канал!!
I have lots of soviet era radios too.
@@shango066 Me too , I love the Soviet era electronics .
@@shango066 They are EXCELLENT for AM reception. I have several as well, one with three bandwidth settings, and it can be so narrow, even turning the tuning knob only one or two degrees and the station is gone. It is literally a 4 kHz NOTCH. This would be able to tune a distant 1 kW station on an adjacent channel to a 50 kW local station. Also can be set to super wideband mode where music on AM sounds almost as good as FM... very good bass and treble response.
@@LakeNipissing That sounds like a unit that'd interest me, with the variable bandwidth. What was the make/model of it please? The current climate seems like a great time to dig out my VEF 206 and listen to the shitshow on that lol. 73 Dan (dan mackintosh on my partner's account as broke my laptop a while back!)
@@emmarandom9609 It is *_LENINGRAD RP-015 Stereo_* (4 speaker boombox without cassette)
I never lost your video since you 've posted . The best one. Sound . video lights. became better every each one. since the begning.
the speaker in a 3D printed part, cool.
I placed an order for one direct from the developers at Malahiteam about a month ago. Very excited to be in the queue to receive one!
User Tip: Set antenna impedance to HiZ with DSP2 and the 19” antenna will pull in stations very well.
These SDR's blow my mind, so much to learn
Looks like a great piece of kit! Really considering one myself for when everything has calmed down. If at all.
Nice score! I just missed out on one that was sold on a ham swap meet. I'll have to see about getting one after seeing this. Thanks for the video!
Shango, I may have missed it in previous videos. Are you using it as a spectrum analyzer? Tertiary to that, db loss/gain measurements?
Glad you got it when you did. I'd be interested in seeing how it performs on AM and SW with a loop on it. Both in the city with stations like KNX nearby (how easily does it overload?), and out in the desert.
great device, i will get it once the price goes down, and we hear you shangoo, you made it perfectly clear
Great video as always Mr Shangwe
Cool demo! Well done, as always...
I received mine about a week ago. Interesting is on mine, the battery holder was only for one battery. For some reason, the firmware on mine won't allow the USB/LSB option to be deselected to go to CW mode. I also can't get it to decode CW. Not sure why yet. Instructions are lacking I've found. They show a "HARD" button and mine doesn't display the image shown in the manual or I can't figure out how to get to it if there's an option. I connected it to a ham radio vertical antenna and the receiver is quite good. It's going to take me a while to get through all of the menus and functions to figure out on my own, due to lack of a clear manual.
Hi Shango0. Cool set. You got lucky with whats going on now. All my best.
Will either one of those radios decode c-quam am stereo? There are some sdr's that do.
Wit a proper antenna it would be interesting to see how the radio performs out at your desert location.
Shango - I got my genuine Malahit a couple weeks ago. Under the radio menu, you'll want to change the antenna setting from 50ohm to Hi-Z. It will improve reception on AM and Shortwave with the whip antenna. I also removed inductor L7 on mine. You will lose the bias-t, but improves reception on AM. For more info on L7, on UA-cam look for "Malahit DSP 2 Radio with additional HI-z board does not perform like DSP1 and Hi-z board installed" video. There is a link in the comments section talking about L7.
Concerning the touch screen, it seems to work better if you hold your finger on the screen for a brief moment versus pressing on it.
Got to get me one of those! It would be way interesting to plug digital cable TV into it. Does it display QAM?
Beautiful radio, thank you as always.
Is there continuous coverage from 50 KHz to 2 GHz ? Or is there a gap between 249.99 - 400 ?
FYI - Now these copies on Ebay are selling for $169.00 - $209.00 and can be had either vertical or horizontal orientation
Ricky from IBM, Ret K4VMS
Amazing radio, does it have a squelch?
That looks like a sweet radio. I did not know this existed. i like how the Malahit looks just like a vintage no frills transistor type radio until you turn it on and it is loaded with features. Do you have to drag the batteries out or is there some why to internally charge it?
Can you do FM DXing with that? Can you get the San Diego FM stations - adjacent to your Los Angeles locals?
Great presentation. I remember how astonished I was when I discovered the Realtek SDR dongle (RTL2832U). It helped me tuning visually my old FM tuner for a fraction of cost of the proper FM carrier generator/modulator. Great to live in the DSP magic era.
You mean that you used a sdr dongle to adjust the internal of your analog radio and make it aligned? I have a portable grundig radio that has an analog tuner but the thing is missaligned... Messing with the knobs inside without a guide is kinda not bringing me anywhere...
I wonder what the IP3 for this devices is like. Also how is the image rejection and how are spurs managed.
Great review perfect timing. Tks.
Neat radios! Can FM SCA stations be tuned with either of them?
Shango066, I like your presentations on the SDR's, makes me want to get one someday. It's the ultimate ideal radio receiver to have. I see Amazon sells what looks like knock offs of the Russian made one, with the knobs sticking out the side of the radio and the display features seem to be missing some functions that your DSP2 has. They all are ether 1.10b or 1.10c models. Most of all you don't have to wait weeks to get one, usually in a couple a days. But it's worth waiting for the original from Russia.
Not really into this SDR stuff, but it's very interesting how it visualizes the spectrum. Looks quite well made too.
SDR is cool if you just want to use it. If you are interested in the electronics SDR is super boring. Thats why I dont like SDR
@@WolfmanDude
With a good SDR like this, yes. The gimmicky SDR-type receivers built in modern stereos, etc. are usually pretty poor in performance and sometimes worse than even the cheapest analog devices.
And yes, it's essentially just a big programmed IC with some peripherals. At least it's "90s style" SMD components which still can be hand soldered without special tools even though it's hard. I still wouldn't knoe how to fix one though. Even Shango doesn't either apparently. This is more for the programming geeks.
Jason JJ Cruz demands that you replace all of the capacitors on the Chinese clone immediately!
mr cruz ovulated on the s0fa
Great, more unobtainium I want.
. Congratulations Shang . From Brazil -
Yes seeing $300 for digital tuner , am I missing something?
SHANGO!!! Thanks for the video
Yep, definitely you've got it just in time. I doubt you can order and get it in next few months or even years due to amounts of crap happening these days...
I recommend to use it with external speaker for best fidelity and reception.
Could one of these be used as a radio scanner ?
When are we going to get the scan upgrade!?!?
You sure ordered that just in time.
gonna be worth a fortune in a few days
It looks like it has surprisingly good soldering quality. Is that what you're seeing?
On the chinese version it looks like bad shielding or not properly blocked power lines to display circuits.
But he says it was working much better before.
at 13:55 when you enabled the PREAMP you should have also switched the SW antenna above it to Hi-Z and the result would have been a lot better on HF and MW with the telescopic antenna, could have increased the RF Gain a bit as well
The Portapack H2 + HackRF SDR Havoc. can transmit signal and receive analog tv and are United States sellers.
Will this go up to 4 GHz ?
damn it, looks interesting, I probably wont be able to get one now..
From the look of the radio it's very well worth the wait. I purchased another radio from Belarus the Belka DX really nice radio not as pretty as that one but still a good performer.
Shango take the copy apart and see if there are protection diodes on the antenna.
I like that little chinese copy SDR radio you have. Wish It wasn't 300 dollars because I'd buy one. I like the arrangement of the speakers and display. I have a USB SDR dongle, the common RTL-SDR and I use it on my phone. It is portable but fragile, I had to buy another cable for it.
would it decode HD Radio , DAB+ and DVB TV?
No it does not.
On the clone it seems like a decoupling capacitor has gone faulty on the display circuitry, or one of the data lines.
I have the same problem but the noise is only in waterfall display mode.
@@bestmultifunctional It probably uses an SPI display and the waterfall is on a different SPI data line.
How are these units better/worse/different from the computer-based, USB-only units that require a computer for use?
cool radio!
14:44 Does it tell you a "73" when you turn it off, or was that actually on the airwaves just by coincidence?
That was a coincidence I think
Geez are those scissors you got there even legal in Comifornia? If they aren't considered assault scissors yet they soon will be once the right person gets offended.
I'd make a small box to sit it in with front firing stereo speakers that plug into the headphone jack for it. It would protect it more too.
supper nice radios
I remember seeing something where the internal firmware/software has a key? If you look at a lot of the Chinese versions the description will say "keyed" or in the comments/feedback for the product you 'll have buyers complain about how it didn't have the "key". It looks like a lot of this device is in the software (though the hardware looks way better built IMHO), so it may be that some of the differences as far as features in the software are because the Chinese versions are running older software until they hack the newer software?
This relay it for ? 04:59 2A 30 V DC 1A 125 V AC (HFD2/003-S-L2(555) how it work when only have 3,7 V
thats the contacts rating
yes I know and I bought a lot stuff from them what about their tung sol tube factory
HELLO PLEASE SHARE THE LINK WHERE YOU BOUGHT THE ORIGINAL RUSSIAN MALAHITEAM DSP2. VERY THANKFUL. CHEERS
I wished they made a model just for commercial AM/FM Radio.
beat me to it. mine hasn't arrived yet.
I should convert my DVB receiver into a sdr radio again
My Chinesium SDR radio has the same problem but only when in waterfall display mode.
I've seen the name on ebay but that would be the Chinese copies. Didn't know it's Russian made. A nice receiver. I'm thinking to buy one, just checkes the exch rate and 20,900 roubles is AU$420. Maybe one day...Still prefer it over the (cheaper) copies.
I love the ats 25 that one is next
👍👍👍
I really love your videos. We a so sorry, we do not want that s*it that happens. As common people we really can't do as much with than basterds that elect he self.
They all belong in nursing homes on dementia medication.
@@shango066 Yep. Most of all hope hes time not last long.
@@shango066 isn’t that the truth !
From the Ruskies?
It seems like radios from Russia actually work on US Channel Frequencies. That looks like a very fancy radio.
Excruciating!
You should activate the Hi-Z input, so even this small telescopic should do better job.
I think, there is a EMI Mode, to reduce the noise from the display. Try enable this on the clone.
its called "EMI Reduction"
I wonder already for a long time why they did not outsource the production of the legitimate devices to a company, even if in China, that makes them to their spec and allows them to get some money from the sales.
As it is now you have to choose between a long wait or get a rip-off and get it delivered next week. They could have had less problems with rip-offs when they at least were able to supply at similar conditions.
I do have another Chinese clone and I have not found any deficiencies compared to what you and others show for the genuine unit.
Not all Chinese clones are equal, some of them are crap but the one I have (which comes in an enclosure made from PCB material and says "SDR V3") works quite well, within what can be expected from such a receiver.
/yes
Not seeing $300 for digital tuner , am I missing something?
If you would've designed it, and then built it to order on your spare time, knowing you used quality parts that most likely cost atleast $150 by themselves in low volumes, and then having to ship it internationally, what would you price it at?
@@LazoeJSCREI no I get that , what special about it ? It just a radio.. what else can it do ?
@@dansteffee9759 You realize that this radio can tune in anything from 50kHz to 2GHz? Yes, from kilohertz into gigahertz, and can demodulate anything that's implemented with code.. Meaning you can listen to almost anything that's on the air provided you have a proper antenna for the band you want.
Just to name examples I can come up with include older police radio, military radio, air traffic control, airplane to airplane traffic, shortwave, longwave, other countries' radio programming, all amateur radio bands, info-satellites like weather map images downloading, walkie talkies, CB radio, over-the-air TV, all sorts of stuff transmitting on the industrial bands, wireless keys, the list goes on and on.. This one radio can tune into all of it, demodulate it for listening if applicable and record raw data most likely.
Commercial radios are obviously limited to commercial bands, or what you're "supposed to listen to", like AM (~500-1600kHz) or FM (~86-108MHz) which are tiny fractions of the frequency spectrum, and what's being transmitted.
U Smoked It 😂....My 909x did...the Digital Went!!!
looks like the speaker mounting bracket thing was 3d printed
That’s what happens when you hook it up to a piece of tube gear with 350v on the plate,. Correct, you not easy on equipment!
As with the X-acto knife pointer, some brilliant people can be intermittent idiots ;-)
@@jamesplotkin4674 you already said that
@@mm7bvp I was speaking to Andre. He may not have seen my other post. Thank you for being a UA-cam moderator ;-)
Try 27 MHz lol Will that work on a PC?
any properly designed handheld radio equipment should be protected against static discharge even .
I remember somthing similar happen to a friends car radio , it was a cheap radio, he touched the antenna getting into the car and that was the end of that, never worked again.
I’m sure that there’s a good reason why they build those things like they do. So, the curious don’t break it then claim it was defective.
Why did you call it a Chinese sub carrier?
I have an SDRply but you need a Laptop to run it it works real good. but that thing is real nice because you don't need a laptop to run it.
I got all excited when I watched this, as I love receivers, and have been an SDR fan since I got my first dongle for my PC and began decoding the airwaves here in the Dakota's with my PC. So when I found an SDR for under a hundred bucks I had to try it. Big disappointment, this one is perhaps worth it's cost but no more, got it off banggoods for 96 plus shipping. It is very crippled, you can't control the bandwidth, the only FM available is wide FM so I can hear my buddies on the 2 meter band with it, well I can tell they are hitting the repeater but it will not decode what they are saying. I can get great FM reception using my external antenna and if outdoors I can get it with the included antenna but indoors it is bad. AM is there but so weak that even the local station is unlistenable. The waterfall is there but you have to tweak it to make it useful and it will not even pull the CB traffic. Ah well you pays your money and you takes your chances. I went to deepSDR to get the firmware upgrade as it advises if you find the secret update screen by holding the rotary encoder and powering on, but deepSDR says it will not support the "illegal clone" and will brick the device if you try to upgrade to the improved firmware, while I am not enthused with the unit, I still don't want to chance it. I did download the upgrade but my Macbook will not find the upgrade disk using the USBC cable as intended by deepSDR so I would have to dig out an old windows machine to even try it. Ah well back to the drawing board I guess.
Great video. It appears to be a great reciever. It's probably going to be a while with what's going on in the Ukraine. Thank you for the tutorial.
I ordered a watch from Russia like 6 months ago and still haven't seen it.
It's cool, but if you just want to play around with SDR, you can get a far cheaper USB dongle for your computer.
Yes but portable?
@@radioaktiv7841 I suppose if you wan to plug the dongle into your tablet, phone, or notebook. I wouldn't say it's AS portable to a portable SDR radio. That wasn't the point. The point was if you just wanted to check out SDR, a dongle would be a good starting point.
You didn't damage it. Thats the antipirate skipping' you tried upgrading the firmware....
Glad you got your radio before any bans happen. Regarding the current events people are going to learn quick what weak men create hard times means.
I purchased what I thought was the original and received the copy version. it does not work that well. So I gave it to the software guys at work to look at the code on it.
you need to set it to hi z for hf operation with the whip antenna.. The ANT sign should be green when you have selected Hi Z Why bother doing reviews when you dont know what you are doing??
Ahh, You Bummed Me Out :(
I Wanted To Buy That SDR :( Sadly I Will Not And I Don`t Have Money To Do Buy A Good One :(
will it get HD radio?
Shango, any update or communication from the Malachite folks on availability of the SDR V2 or later ? I really want one, not the current Chinese knock-off. The knock-off's I see listed everywhere have far less features that the genuine Soviet version, and even the Chinese version you Demo'd here.
Who was your seller for the Knock Off version?
I'd take the chance and buy one of the knock-offs "IF" they were as well equipped/designed as your Knock off shown above, but sadly these seem to be getting worse not better with less features not more.
Thanks in advance for answering my question. I love the channel and your videos. TGIS! Shango has a new video out, ,my modern equivalent to the old Saturday Morning Cartoons, for adults!
Sanctions make paying a Russian seller very difficult and I believe Russia has sort of restricted shipping electronic devices out of the country.
@@shango066 Well that sucks but to be expected in light of the situation. I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes next. Hopefully it'll all be over sooner than later.
I'm sure you miss being able to purchase stuff from Russian Federation, you do get some really cool gear and parts. Rock on brother!
Could you please tell me the email address that we need to send the emails to to get the correct Russian version of this radio thank you my name is David
May be too late to get this, if I read the website correctly, the original is Russian, and all imports from Russia may be blocked at this point in time.
On HF you won't notice any loss in that bit of coax. On UHF, another story.
Looks like an ordinary lead.