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Another Super Easy Way To Carve A Les Paul Top...
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2019
- Our last DIY carve top video was very popular… it seemed like a good idea to do another one with a cool old school tool called a copy carver. I expect there will be some smack talk about CNC vs old school tools. Of course, y’all realize that these were the hot set-up back in the day or you wouldn’t be watching.
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Works very well. I am a welder and build my own copy carver and Les Paul dummy top. Next month i start my second LP build, and used it again.
Glad to hear you got it set up like you like
A pattern or copy machine. Nice. A precursor to the CNC machine. About seven years ago I was working in a shop in charge of manufacturing process and programming. We had 47 CNC machines in 28 cells, and 4 manual machines, two of them were fairly large horizontal lathes, and on certain jobs they still used patterns from 40, 50, or more years ago.
Yep, they are still good to go
Cool stuff man! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Phil it is a neat tool in the guitarsenal
Loved the woodworking ingenuity ... Loved the song even more ...
Thanks for watching Barry it's a cool tool... too big but cool
I love the bicycle brake.
It works great!
Love your work... scootch is my new favourite word!
I like hootch & scootch
pretty slick Nick
GREAT demo and explanation.
Thanks for watching brotherman, it is a fun tool to use every now and then
Awesome video again !!
Thanks for watching Terry
Great show Mat take it easy
Thanks for watching Kev
Just simple and efficient!
Thanks Maico, there are a lot of cool videos for shop build copy carvers on UA-cam, they are pretty neat tools
Matt, I really enjoyed this video. May I ask how much material do you leave to allow for "sand to finish "?
Cool, first time I have seen one of those in action.
It is a pretty slick deal, I'm glad I posted this... there have been a few ideas on how to improve it in the comments
Thank´s Matt for all this information, been learning a lot from your videos. I´m in the middle of a refret rigth now! Just one concern; please keep your hair inside your back´s t-shirt when working with machines, keep the good work!
Glad to hear you are enjoying the videos my friend
I have a few poplar trees, big ones (a good 24"+ diameter) that I am going to need to remove within a few years so I am looking forward to making a few one-piece bodies from my own poplar lumber. I have a pine log waiting right now for the sawyer to come and collect it, that is big enough to make a one piece pine bodies from, and it has a lot of super-fine rings, so I can't wait to see what 2" slabs from it look like when sawn.
Those will be neat guitars Colonel send me some pictures
Another cool video. Thanks, Matt! (Also, dammit, Matt, another tool that I want.)
Thanks for watching my friend, it is a neat tool in the guitarsenal… too bad about your bank account hahaha
Super easy... Just need to build a huge machine. I'm going back to the store to get more sand paper.
Great tool!
It is pretty slick for the few thigs we get to use it for
Glad to see you doing it the AUTHENTIC WAY!!! By the way what kind of bit and size is that?
hahaha I'm not sure it is the authentic way but I do appreciate it. Glad to see that there are people who like the older ways as much as I do.
That is a 1/2" ball end mill
Hey Matt! Awesome tool. I have a question though - you say that you'll need to put in the right angle for the neck and pickups, howcome? Doesn't the template have the correct angle? And if not, why not give the template the correct angle and rout that out at the same time as you're carving the shape of the body?
I really, really appreciate the "do it the way you like it" attitude :)
Glad you liked it my friend
Very cool machine! Took me a sec to figure out what that hand brake was for! Peace
Thanks Mark, we labored under the machine with no break for a while... it was hand cramping!
It still is just not as bad. A few guys have given me some ideas on how to improve the brake assembly
Thanks for sharing Matt. I thought copy carvers were more complicated than that! From the looks of it, I'm sure you could knock something up in the shed that will do something similar with a decent hand router and tracks. I suppose a lots got to do with the type of router bit you use as well?
Hi Peter,
The copy carver could certainly be more complex than our rig and probably be made less sophisticated then ours as well. The brass bushings are surprisingly smooth and you could substitute those for the bearings all day long for this application.
Give it a try and see what you come up with. Be sure to send me some pictures
@@TexasToastGuitars I'll definitely have to put the thinking cape on for that one...and a couple of thinking beers as well!
Cool video & I love that "Genuine Stolen Parts" sticker that proper made me lol for some reason, I actually prefer the previous video's way of carving a Les Paul top only because your average competent with power tools guy like me could do it like that without much trouble :-)
This is like you say a better way of doing it if you're going to build more than just 1 or 2 but great video all the same & I like to see how stuff is made :-)
The angle grinder is still a great way to do them Smokin' Joe
For Episode 3 of "Super Easy Way..." is get a $15 angle grinder with those carbide-sprinkles wheels (since they look like cup cake sprinkles) for $10/whatever from Harbor Freight. They work well for necks too.
Ruokangas had a copy carver video too. I almost built a CC until I decided to mess with a CNC since a CC is half way there.
I used an angle grinder in the first one
Cool
It's like Miles Davis cool
I believe the term you're looking for is lichtenberg burning :) I've got all the parts to do it (both microwave and neon transformers as the different frequencies make different patterns) but I'm too much of a chicken-shit to do it. I like breathing :) One of these days I'll give it a go.....
Thanks Don, it has been a fun road
I'll have some pics and a video with the guy doing the scorching
You and me both!!! I've got a couple of bodies that are just SCREAMING for it.... but I used to be an electrician and got my dick knocked in my watch pocket more than once, and had a heart attack in 2017 (not electricity induced... "rock n roll lifestyle"). If either one of us "sack up" we need to post a vid or 12 on it 😁
Have you used copy carver to profile necks? I saw a video where user took 2 steps, a rough and finish pass, is there an oversized stylus to create offset? Great video as usual!
We used to use the copy carver for necks but it was a bummer. The Dead-Head sander is much better for necks... for us
@@TexasToastGuitars I have some weird rings that used pin or regular router for necks. Dead head does look faster
Great demo Matt…… next Texas toast t-shirt idea " old school tool" …… you'd sell millions …..haha…take care and good luck in Nashville !!!
I am an old school tool hahaha
Looking forward to the NAMM show in Nashville my friend
Do harder woods take more time to carve on the copy carver? Are they more difficult to carve? Do you use the same bit on the cutter for harder woods or do you use a different bit?
They do take more time to carve and sand smooth. We use the same ball end mill for maple and everything else.
My little shop is NOWHERE near the caliber of TT, but I have been doing it for longer than I care to remember. In my experience, a good router bit is a good router bit, "harder woods" may take a little more time, but they sometimes cut easier than "softer woods" . I dont have anything this fancy, and actually do my arch tops (all 3 that I may make in a year) with an angle grinder and nasty flapper style sanding wheel. At the end of the day, it is about taking the tools that you have and learning how to do the best job that you can with them..... it's just time, right?
THX.
Hello Matt ,
Are the poplar bodies available for sale?
Also would be interested in selling your copy carver so that you could build your smaller version?
If not, are the blue prints or schematics diagram to the smaller version available?
Nice work by the way.
We do not have any bodied for sale at this time and I have no interest in selling the copy carver.
Thats real cool! How long have you had a cnc copier machine? I'd love to have a cnc machine! this is off topic but I see your Springfield XD shirt...I just bought a Remington R1 enhanced version :)
I shot a really nice Springfield 1911 for that shirt hahaha
How is the R1? They look really nice
@@TexasToastGuitars Its a great gun! You need to own one!! I've had the regular full sized Remington R1 which was pretty good but this version is much better(better trigger, better sights, lighter weight, better grips, 8 rounds instead of 7..ects) So correct if I'm wrong, during WW2 colt couldn't keep up with the demand for 1911 so they turned to Remington UMC to make the 1911 which they did but the war ended...so there's a few of those original UMC remington 1911 out there(alot of green backs!) these new ones are the descendant of those. I really like them alot and there not overpriced like some 1911's...www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/world-war-i-and-firearms-innovation/case-32-wwi-america-and-the-allies/us-remington-umc-model-1911-semi-automatic-pistol.aspx
Probably faster than some cnc .great tool to have available
Oh you got that right... there are CNCs and then there are CNCs
Any advise on where to find cheap wood for guitar blanks without paying $60 plus dollars? Its impossible to find 1 3/4 to 2" lumber anywhere around where i live? Which is Omaha or Lincoln Nebraska area.
Hi Dale,
Sorry to hear you are having trouble sourcing lumber. Have you called Liberty Hardwoods in Omaha?
For a body size blank under 60 bucks you are looking at poplar. You can always glue up a multi piece like I did in the scrap wood guitar video series.
Send me an email if you get stuck and I'll see if I can help you out.
@@TexasToastGuitarsThank you .I will definitely give them a call. Thank you so much for your videos. They have really helped me withy guitar building and they are just fun to watch. Keep up the good work.
You mention something about the angle for the pickups. Where do you get that information?
Neck angle is routed onto the top, in most cases is 4.4 to 4.5 degrees,starting at the edge of the body where the neck will mount. Route back to just where the fingerboard will end. you now have you neck plane. next you route a 1.2 degree angle from the end of the fingerboard back towards the stop tail piece , this is the pickup plane. you then mount your pickup template to the neck plane, support the far end of the template, keeping that 4.4 or 4.5 degree angle and route you pickup cavities. the tops of the pickups will now sit parallel to the strings.
Yeah, what Lou said
The way that the neck is, traditionally set into the body and the bridge commonly used make it just, sort of the way you have to do it. Lou nailed it
When you get to the edge, is it always square? Or would you have to turn both bodies to get a rounded off edge?
Despite the fact that it looks like a lot of work, I can't imagine how much work it would be to do an archtop by hand. Great machine. It does look overwhelming, until you start pointing out the commonsense way you've adapted things, like the handbrake, and the router motor. Thanks for the video. Ah ha!!!!!! Hand porting cylinder heads, this is a great concept. Hmmmm.
Now things are going to get interesting. Josh who was a guitar teacher (Who needs to cut down his caffeine intake, cause he gabs like a fiend) is moving into the house on the end of our property. The bad part is the guy is on Beatles 24/7, and Carm from Biohazard is going to start teach me guitar this week. He say's it will be easy for me, cause I've spent years picking up guitars, thinking up riffs, and handing them off to guitarist who can actually assemble them correctly. So it's going to be like a crash course in guitaring, covering two states, & a coupe of hundred miles. I'm going to take that time to push some of your fine wears my friend. ua-cam.com/video/hH9_y91ihTo/v-deo.html
Now yer talking my friend, let me know how it goes
@@TexasToastGuitars - It's like chess, with Dawn's Multiple Sclerosis, I have to shift, and move tons of pieces around to actually do the things I plan on.
How can you get the plans of the guitar?
I'm pretty sure the internet is loaded with information, plans, places to order templates, download prints etc. Just start looking around and you can find lots of things. If you want a Les Paul... there is way more information than you can sift through in several months
Good place to start is the Luthier's Corner forum on mylespaul.com . There are some "sticky" threads there that list sources for plans and templates and so forth. Plus, the forum's full of really helpful people who can talk you through any snags you hit.
very cool machine, but you allmost have a CNC machine just need the controler and motors
Using that logic, a person with a Squire "almost' has a guitar from the Fender custom shop.
Oh hang on your in Naam maan.. Have a couple of beers for me👍
It would be much easier on your left hand if pulling the lever disengaged the brake instead
Hey, that would be easier, thanks for the cool idea Ian
So easy Matt... pretty damm fucking cool... play authentic!!! Hahaha
It actually takes longer to set it up hahaha
Hi Matt are you doing the live chat tonight mate??
We are NAMM isn't for a few more weeks
Cool whats the subject for tonight??
And then there are those that will spend a Gazillion Hours using "finger plane" to carve an arched top. That seems a bit extreme for me. I have a "bunch" of different routers for different jobs. I plan to acquire or build a copy carver.
Yeah, the finger plane seems like a slow motion way to go. On maple, when I get close I use scrapers and to get things just exactly right they are invaluable.
Building the copy carver was a fun project. You should give it a try brotherman
You used the "authentic iconic name"..... LAWSUIT INCOMING!!!!!! 😮😉🤣🤣
We ain't scared of those jamoches hahaha
I always watch this with autogenerated captions and it's cool when it goes like "..this is Mad at Texas Toast Guitars.." Way to go with the copy carver... there are some old pictures online of the Ibánez factory.. an S-Series master made in cast steel or bronze on a copy carver not much more complicated than yours.
Oh cool I'll have to look those up. I forget sometimes that there were old school tools in Japan too. We got some real insight from the Ibanez Steve Via 30th anniversary Jem video a few years ago... those guys obviously know what they are doing
@@TexasToastGuitars Look for drowninginguitars.com , it's a blog with a ton of guitar stuff, and has a story with a few pictures of a Fujigen Gakki factory visit.
The OG cnc.
If I am remembered for doing stuff with the old school tools that would be okay with me
@@TexasToastGuitars I fully agree with you !
Once you go CNC, you'll never go back and you'll wonder why you didn't sooner.
I somehow doubt it. I actually enjoy wood working
@@TexasToastGuitars So did I until my neck, back and shoulders decided they didn't want to do the work anymore.
Cool dude
Watch out for "The Big G" coming after you :-)
We ain't scared of those jamoches
Awesome💯
You`re makin` it harder and harder for me to come up with any colorful comments...
I think we just through a worm hole brotherman
I love you guys. But good god get a CNC machine.
Why do y'all care what tools I use? hahaha
I don't like CNC machines for building guitars... they aren't sexy.
@@TexasToastGuitars Au contraire, they are mighty sexy. But it doesn't matter, I love your channel - keep up the great work!
If you say so brougham :)
Agnesi is watching and making notes
Hahaha, as I have said many times those guys have no idea who I am
a CNC is just another tool at your disposal , If you have one I say use it .....
Sure man, like I say, have fun making guitars
Mark Agnesi just watched this and popped a rod in his shorts
Who?
@@TexasToastGuitars Doesn't he own Gibson now or something ?
Better lawyer up!
We ain't scared of those jamoches
Ooer!! I gonna sue your ass, boy!! ..love JC
So many lawsuits hahaha
Sweet. A panto remover.
It is a cool little tool... Okay it is too big, still neat though.
@@TexasToastGuitars, it is! You're a DIYer like me. I appreciate these things. I wonder if it would be any better if the brake worked backwards. On by default, squeeze to release it.
I think it would cramp my hand less
And now you actually own a real CNC machine instead of this Fred Flinstone version!!!
We still have the copy carver and I'm going to use it this week too
Hoping you don’t get sued.
We ain't scared of those jamoches
I hope Mark Agnesi is watching..lol. Gibson might learn how to make a quality instrument for a change.
Hahaha I'm pretty sure those guys have no idea I am alive. Thanks for watching my friend
"Super Easy"!? That is a little misleading when the process involves using an uncommon tool that would be complicated to build and expensive to buy. It's a great way to do the job, but maybe consider your video title a little more carefully.
What would you recommend?