Couple of extra things to say: 1- If you have questions, things you wish I had gone a bit deeper on, please do let me know as I will address in the follow up video. 2- Abxylute does have a mapping solution tied to their software, it is not available yet for testers but rester assured that I will address it once it is. 3- Thanks for watching! 😘
@GameTechTalk i know your tier video is coming, idk if you want to include this there or just a separate video, but maybe comparing the s9's dpad to other telescopic controllers and the different solutions used like membrane vs mechanical and testing it with some fighters and platformers to show the differences, i think it would help many decide because i just saw one of the other reviewers video of the s9, actually the email abxylute sent linked me to it and he freakin says don't get it for the dpad! almost shattered my world until i saw he didn't really test any of the extra ones that come in the box and he only did a short test with contra and it seems to me like he had to be very deliberate to make it fail the contra test, plus i thought a little give u do want? maybe u can shine a better light...he even replies to one of the comments under his video, that the dpad is like the g8, there's no way that's true, i saw you easily do shoryukens, g8s dpad is too freaking hard/sharp for that lol
I bought the Gamesir G8 a few weeks ago and I like it however, I think the Dpad needs some work. I notice you mentioned this gamepad has a the best dpad so far. That being said, would be possible to make video about which controller has the best Dpad for fighting games. I know you showed yourself playing SF2. That's awesome and i appreciate that. I tend to play alot of Fighting games and would like to play CVS2 and Tekken with a good Dpad.
@@pcmacro For a telescopic controller, this is definitely the best in my opinion. And not only is it the best, it's a pretty good one overall too. If not this one, I'd say the next best one is the Razer Kishi Ultra but that controller is so stupid expensive.
I bought the G8+ and it was neat, until the left trigger had no sensory and would press all the way down with no tension, as a result the vibration went crazy left side of the controller. - Got the SCUF Nomad, but the face buttons too small, almost ordered the M15 when I watched your video on it, but not connecting to the Switch made me wait for this, Currently using the Kishi Ultra on iPad Mini 6th Gen but no rumble for some reason when connecting to PS Remote Play ..
@@PN-92 That G8+ anomaly you are describing, in their app, there is a feature to test your rumble. It locks in one of the triggers (user choice I believe) and when you actuate it, it makes the rumble work. If you still have it, I would go in the software and try ticking that feature on, and back off to see if that fixes it. Apparently, Abxylute are considering making a solution to shield the USB-C and be able to use it wired on the Switch while also slotting in the Switch in the controller. That would be neat if they could sell/include something like that. Otherwise, any wizard with a 3D printer could easily fix that but I'm not that guy. Never owned one! :/
I enjoy the silliness you sometimes include in your videos. The cold open especially comes in for praise. It's like something I'd expect to see Conan O'Brien doing if he reviewed tech for a living.
Thanks Matt! I'm learning day-by-day to harness that side a bit more and who knows, maybe I'll find a way down the road of better utilizing that goofy side of mine. I'm glad you resonate with that. 😊
Great video! I just backed it. I have a Galileo G8 and its great BUT I had to modify it to get my s24 ultra to fit with a case and the worse part is that the Dpad is not good at all (not sure if it's just my unit), for some reason it does not always register when I press down (I have to press down with more force than any other arrow) which has been super annoying when playing platformers and metroidvanias. so that plus the Bluetooth, solid ergonomics and $50 price tag (super early bird) made this one a no brainier.
oh man another great review, honest and straight forward. I backed it as soon as could, I'm excited for it to come to full production. I've been wanting dual connection of wired and Bluetooth connectivity that ALSO includes headphone jack AND pass through charging. Not to mention with FREEEEEE Software support, my this really is the package. All at the price of $54.88 (shipping was added) as a early bird special, honestly you had me sold from the beginning of the video. Of course the software can be improved more, but with so much time and the amount of people backing this early I'm sure that it'll be much better than what it is now (at least I hope).
Abxylute seems incredibly opened to feedback, they'll soon be creating a channel for reviewers and testers to provide feedback, I'm sure the product the consumers will receive will be improved in some capacity but as you said, and as it stands, this is already an amazing package that they are bringing to market, and that early bird pricing is nothing short of amazing!
Nice intro Klef, you are doing a superb job in your reviews, they are straight to the point and very detailed at the same time, I really appreciate that you share your real experience with the products being as objective as possible. I hope these compaines keep sending you products because thanks to your feedback they will release a better ones in the future.
Thanks @ryd3r007 It means so much you have no idea. I'm always very uncomfortable when I do these quick skits, I hope people won't feel offended that I take a couple seconds to lighten the mood. Plus, I'm never sure if my humour lends at all but I sure do laugh at myself! 😅 Glad to know I'm not the only one, thanks so much!
backed! whats selling me is their software and the capatability with thicker cases. I'm hoping this will be my end game telescopic controller lol. Ive spent enough money buying the Razer Kishi v2 pro, Gamesir X2, and Gamesir G8.
on the "mod" for the tablet (same with G8+)- do what i did with my Super Nintendo (to play Japanese games) - snip the slide lock on the back... IF you know you know... right?
Not even actually, first of, my apology as I did not do the best of jobs illustrating how on the video. This Shorts shows you better what I did: ua-cam.com/users/shortszCFUT36qrkA Cheers! :)
I am really surprised I got the notice this morning about the kickstarter going live and like 9 hours later I was still able to get the early early bird first 300 backer pricing.
I think the fact they surprised people with a 2x 49$ bundle definitely gave the opportunity to grab one at 49$ a tad longer. It's nearly done now, good on you for catching one! :)
Hi I’m juz curious do I have to get the extra buttons pack to get the additional dpads or are they available with juz getting the S9 without getting the additional spare parts pack
Nah, so the controller comes with the goodies (2 D-Pads and 2 Taller Sticks), the kit is in case you want extras for safekeeping basically. The one thing that is fully separate is the faceplate. Gotta have me a faceplate 😈
@@GameTechTalk ahh right! I decided to get the white one in the end with the additional face plates! Thanks so much for such an in-depth video on the s9 mans!
I wished these companies would make more accessories because that G8+ is still amazing to me but it would be cool to have custom faceplate OR a primed faceplate we can paint with proper paint of course.
🔥 ...backed, can't wait to get mine, love my G8, but as others mentioned a better dpad and rumble is what it was missing and this will bring that and then some pretty much hitting all the check marks, can't beat that for 50-60 bucks is a steal
They are both great for different reasons. I will elaborate more on the tierlist video which will release by end of month. But for here and now, I'd say Abxylute S9 at the Kickstarter price is definitely an opportunity one shouldn't miss out on.
@@CasualPooper I have a review of it on my channel and often referred to it since. It's great but it's overpriced in the current landscape of the market. It also has pretty impactful flaws in comparison. If you have questions, ask away, I'm happy to oblige and also, it'll be back in the upcoming telescopic tierlist video.
Definitely closer versus something like say the Backbone. However, it feels very different, and has more features such as gyro, Bluetooth and rumble. It’s kind of a hybrid between G8 and G8+.
The G8+ is better in my opinion. Bluetooth and switch compatibility is chef kiss... Ive had 0 issues with rumble either. It feels no different than console when you turn the sensitivity up.
The G8+ is definitely a controller I simply cannot stow away, but depending on what people want, the S9 is up there as a contender. I'll further address this question in my tierlist but make no mistakes, I know how great the G8+ is, the S9 is nothing to scuff at either though.
It is very akin to it yes. I think it has enough to stand out that it isn't a "clone" but it most certainly takes inspirations from it, at least I believe. But in a year from now, they will all do so in some capacity so they can take inspiration all they want, I just want the best there is. 😈
On modes: I have the EasySMX M15, and this one on order. Now, on the M15, I've only used Android HID mode exclusively, and I haven't found a need to switch modes. I've only used it for a few Android games, Winlator (for Pico-8), and various emulators, and I'm curious - what are some specific scenarios might require me to switch modes? Also, did you do polling tests on the M15, and if so, is X-input mode notably superior like it seems to be with the S9?
Some games are finicky with the modes they support, but indeed, emulation would probably never require that at all. COD:M is a very notorious one, so is Honkai: Star Rail. PS Remote Play only works with PS modes. Android HID is not supposed to support rumble nor gyro, though that may potentially be addressed with a second layer. The reality is some people won't need that at all, but I would hope people still know about this because there may come a time that they think their controller don't work when in fact, it works fine, just maybe not for the game (or even worst, on the mode with X device) that they are trying to play with.
Review sold me on this. Gonna cop one next week for sure. Great review as usual I appreciated the longer review for this one. Btw I didnt catch any gameplay of you ising it but the on screen mapping for games without native support like Wuthering Waves works right?
So I couldn't test the mapping software (which there will be an official one for the controller) because that portion of the software is not yet available. Also, in case anyone wonders, I would expect that software to only be Android capable (as is always the case).
Would you choose this over the gamesir for xl tablets. The gamesir g8 angles it's hand grips outwards more which is ok for a controller because there isn't a massive tablet in the center. The abxylute has you cupping it from the bottom more allowing you to support the weight from the bottom.
The G8+ sure is sweet for Folds since you can reposition your device, with that said, because the grips of the S9 pull down so much, I do find that it is a particularly pleasant experience on the Z Fold. You can't really go wrong either way, so I'd focus on where your needs are better answered, for example the 3.5mm jack, is it important for you? If so, that seals it pretty quickly.
Thanks! Probably too much to put that in a YT comment but it also has a lot in common. G8/G8+ will definitely remain a very solid option but Abxylute seems to want to established themselves and I think that product is more than "good enough" to make that happen.
I doubt it's possible at this point, they are probably too far into production to make significant changes. However, feedback should always be embraced, I'll let them know, thanks for bringing your suggestion to me bud!
I believe they are saying 99USD, then again, most products I've seen always end up selling at somewhere between the crowdfunding price, and the "suggested retail price". So maybe it'll be 85-90USD? I couldn't tell you, that'll depend on them.
This is disappointing, the analog stick on the right side is the make or break for me and that’s terrible for comfort things I can conclude with out picking this up is you’ll have dead pinky after a bit of gaming, and your thumb will be contorting while trying to be competitive in first person shooters or any game that you need to control the camera. This is TERRIBLE DESIGN why do all telescopic controllers continue trying to cut down size instead of making an actual comfortable controller.
Are you referring to the vertical alignment with face buttons? Or do you mean because the sticks are asymmetrical? I've played with it about 2 hours in bed last night, so far so good I gotta say. I also was provided with a new firmware, gyro is working considerably better but I didn't use it. I stuck to sticks only.
@@GameTechTalk I’m referring to how the small form factor makes it less enjoyable I own a gamesir g8 with similar ergonomics and it collects dust now due to how uncomfortable it is to play warzone mobile. I shouldn’t have to change my grip to have fun playing games normally.
@@ForgetDanny95 Wait, are you telling me that you find the GameSir G8 to be "small form-factor"?!? I mean... At this point, I feel like I'm hearing that you'd want an Xbox Duke as a telescopic controller, nothing wrong with that but I can't think of the G8 being small form-factor, nor do I think that of the S9, I'm sincerely confused here. Edit: And I agree wholeheartedly about the grip, that's why this aspect chocked me with this controller. Because it's natural, at least to me, whereas usually, I hate having to do that. In fact, I'm sure I have videos out there complaining about the exact thing that I praised the S9 for, but with this controller, it feels great both ways, I don't know why it does but it does.
Bruhhh, my first backed Kickstarter 🤑 If it wasn't for your vid, I wouldn't have landed the $49 essspecial so here's my thanks. PS - I really like when u act goofy. The world is too serious, too freakin sensitive. We are gamers so we are kids at heart so yeah, keep dishin out the lulz 😁 PS #2 - I'm the one who said I'll fight u for seeing how u mount your Fold to these 😄but hey, looks pretty good on this ctrl
Dang... Wow, this doesn't happen. And I know that it's part of the gig if I want to be there long enough to achieve the level I hope to one day, but it still touches me deeply that you'd go to this extent. Thank you, immensely, and for your trust, and the kind and reassuring words you said to me. 🥹 P.S. Don't take this Fold mount for granted, I will deceive you again, 'tis a promise! 😈😂
Great review like always, only place I watch for my info. I backed this up right at 8 and got the early bird special. Only thing is, I bought the g8+ less than 2 weeks ago, I'm really not sure if I should keep it or return it
I think the number one question you want to ask yourself with the G8+ is, do you use it as a Switch controller? Because if you do, I think that warrants keeping it as it is a VERY SOLID solution for Switch. If you don't, then that's up to you but as it stands, the S9 does have advantages over it, but no bluetooth PS mode for Android. So there's that too to consider.
Great vid, thanks for all the info. I think for this to be worth it over the g8+ the usb-c connector needs to be able to fold away or removed. Not sure of the benefit of including bluetooth without that ability. Does the controller have an internal battery?
It does not have an internal battery. The reason for bluetooth is because some games lock their compatibility to a single manufacturer, like COD:M with Backbone. So the other solution is to be connected Bluetooth where PS and Xbox controllers are almost always supported. This way, you can "have you cake and eat it too" even if companies like to make back alley deals that mess up with gamer's owned hardware.
This seems like a lot of work to get these to play and work great.. I'll just wait til that one comes along, under $70. Thanks for sharing tho. New follower here!
Happy to have you tag along for the ride! It can get complicated to get the full experience but depending on how you game, it may be far simpler than what I presented. It all comes down to the way these are being used but indeed, I do wish it was made simpler. Abxylute did say on their Discord that they intend to have the modes be swappable through the software, that would make things way easier and convenient!
The chip on the Razer Edge is clearly designed to work with active cooling, as was Quest 2. I wouldn't go as far as saying it is loud, but in contrast, a lot of devices use passive cooling and when comparing one to the other, yeah that can take one by surprise.
How I wish it was standardized but that licensing game is just too strong. Companies rely on that profit from partner hardware makers. Thankfully, those protocols eventually get picked up on but the reality is that we might run into that issue again (and worst) in a generation or two. Apple with MFi is making so much money, I don't see the likes of Sony, Nintendo and/or Microsoft backing out of that approach.
And thats why an amazing controller is essentially ruined for me. They did everything else right but didnt get the right stick placement on point. Sigh...
I sympathize, I know you're not the only one to wish for symmetrical sticks. I've gotten used to both personally, to the point that I don't really have a preference anymore but you are far from being the only one that does. Hopefully, we'll see more and more companies cater to those who do. @jaydev504
I laughed and laughed. Bloody well done opener young lad. I personally don't like that ABXYLUTE is sending out an unfinished product to content creators but I see this as the company gathering feedback prior to finalized release. For me it's a wait and see from the wider community. Oh course, it will be about 10 minutes before someone else puts out another telescopic to compete with this badboy.
Ahh dang! It fills my heart reading that I got to provide you some laughters! Especially when daring a little more! I can understand where your head's at. I mean if we're being honest, there is no affiliate link with this endeavor, there's also "beta testing" to some extent but you know what the "payout" will be? Knowing that I can contribute in some capacity in helping this product improve over time for all the passionate like us that will buy this thing. That's what I am most excited about! So, a few kinks to iron out most certainly, but rest assured, I'll be here "double-time" reporting with other creators whatever we can to make this as great as it possibly can be! Thanks for your support Hunter, oh and next telescopic controller video in 10 minutes indeed! 🤣
@@STR82DVD Thanks for thinking so, definitely a serendipitous outcome if I ever can describe one. 😊 I'm just excited to have the opportunity to help a product be better for gamers, especially one that starts with such a good foundation to continue to improve from.
@@STR82DVD I've been thinking, that video is kind of a full circle moment! I found an internet friend, probably the best thing to come out of that first Abxylute review. ;) I tested GFN with the controller and no rumble. I'm on the free tier mind you but I have researched this and apparently it's a GFN Android specific thing and that their software is tied to their rumble protocol which never made it past the Shield controller (I used to have one of those but it broke 😢). I still have my fat Shield Portable though, 1st edition! So yeah, seems like it won't work until Nvidia update their stuff!
@@GameTechTalk That's a very interesting outcome because apparently, now I've not tried this but, if you put the G8+ in x-input mode whilst running it on an Android device, the rumble works on GFN. I'm not sure it's true because I was aware that the rumble on protocol on my shield controllers was proprietary. Odd situation and kind of a poor showing for Nvidia tbh.
Looks nice but I think I'm done with telescopic controllers for right now. I recently picked up the G8, G8+, and M15. I'm just wondering what's stopping manufacturers from putting the USB-C port on the left side instead. This wouldn't really harm regular slab phones. Yeah the power and volume might be on the bottom but I think this is still fine. Foldables will benefit the most tho. I will wait for that as my next telescopic controller.
I think it's more of a software issue. Not sure about iPhone, but with Android, many, MANY games are forcing the phone rotation with the usb port on the right side. If you turn it with the port on the left, you are going to play with the game upside down. You can use some apps to override the forced rotation and make it rotate the other way, but it's not something intuitive to do, many people would likely not think of this solution and would probably just return the controller.
🫡 Let me first throw you a salute. MY GUY, I get it. I totally do. Why need 4 when you can really only use one at a time. However, I must honestly say that as I was talking about the D-Pad in the video, you crossed my mind. Dead serious. You are the guy that likes the G8 D-Pad (how could you?!? 😆). Jk jk of course, but hopefully, you get your hands on one eventually and if you do, I'd love to get your inputs because we seem to like very different d-pads (M6-HD also comes to mind) so I was literally wondering what you would've said, not even joking. You're not in Montreal by any chance, I'll have you try it! 😅 @volcalstone
@AndreaB6 You are absolutely right about the rotation aspect, in fact, I would always use a software called: "Force Landscape" many many moons ago, and that was one of the reasons, that and forcing landscape in non-landscape games such as Mario Run.
@@GameTechTalk haha I thought you said the G8 was S tier when it came to the D-pad? The D-pad on the M6-HD is ok, not the best functionality. I prefer a membrane D-pad personally. This one in the video looks interesting tho. I ended up picking up the G8 again recently as it was only $40. Gonna test it out again. 😁 Nope I don't love near Montreal. I'm here in the States where Cali is at. Our D-pads over here hit a little harder you know. Hehe.
Couple of extra things to say:
1- If you have questions, things you wish I had gone a bit deeper on, please do let me know as I will address in the follow up video.
2- Abxylute does have a mapping solution tied to their software, it is not available yet for testers but rester assured that I will address it once it is.
3- Thanks for watching! 😘
@GameTechTalk i know your tier video is coming, idk if you want to include this there or just a separate video, but maybe comparing the s9's dpad to other telescopic controllers and the different solutions used like membrane vs mechanical and testing it with some fighters and platformers to show the differences, i think it would help many decide because i just saw one of the other reviewers video of the s9, actually the email abxylute sent linked me to it and he freakin says don't get it for the dpad! almost shattered my world until i saw he didn't really test any of the extra ones that come in the box and he only did a short test with contra and it seems to me like he had to be very deliberate to make it fail the contra test, plus i thought a little give u do want? maybe u can shine a better light...he even replies to one of the comments under his video, that the dpad is like the g8, there's no way that's true, i saw you easily do shoryukens, g8s dpad is too freaking hard/sharp for that lol
I bought the Gamesir G8 a few weeks ago and I like it however, I think the Dpad needs some work. I notice you mentioned this gamepad has a the best dpad so far. That being said, would be possible to make video about which controller has the best Dpad for fighting games. I know you showed yourself playing SF2. That's awesome and i appreciate that. I tend to play alot of Fighting games and would like to play CVS2 and Tekken with a good Dpad.
@@pcmacro For a telescopic controller, this is definitely the best in my opinion. And not only is it the best, it's a pretty good one overall too.
If not this one, I'd say the next best one is the Razer Kishi Ultra but that controller is so stupid expensive.
I bought the G8+ and it was neat, until the left trigger had no sensory and would press all the way down with no tension, as a result the vibration went crazy left side of the controller.
- Got the SCUF Nomad, but the face buttons too small, almost ordered the M15 when I watched your video on it, but not connecting to the Switch made me wait for this,
Currently using the Kishi Ultra on iPad Mini 6th Gen but no rumble for some reason when connecting to PS Remote Play ..
@@PN-92 That G8+ anomaly you are describing, in their app, there is a feature to test your rumble. It locks in one of the triggers (user choice I believe) and when you actuate it, it makes the rumble work.
If you still have it, I would go in the software and try ticking that feature on, and back off to see if that fixes it. Apparently, Abxylute are considering making a solution to shield the USB-C and be able to use it wired on the Switch while also slotting in the Switch in the controller. That would be neat if they could sell/include something like that. Otherwise, any wizard with a 3D printer could easily fix that but I'm not that guy. Never owned one! :/
This is one of the best tech reviews I've seen for anything. Very in depth. Subbed and gonna get one from Kickstarter.
Well dang, that is a mighty kind compliment to receive! Thank you very much!
I enjoy the silliness you sometimes include in your videos. The cold open especially comes in for praise. It's like something I'd expect to see Conan O'Brien doing if he reviewed tech for a living.
Thanks Matt! I'm learning day-by-day to harness that side a bit more and who knows, maybe I'll find a way down the road of better utilizing that goofy side of mine. I'm glad you resonate with that. 😊
Great video! I just backed it. I have a Galileo G8 and its great BUT I had to modify it to get my s24 ultra to fit with a case and the worse part is that the Dpad is not good at all (not sure if it's just my unit), for some reason it does not always register when I press down (I have to press down with more force than any other arrow) which has been super annoying when playing platformers and metroidvanias. so that plus the Bluetooth, solid ergonomics and $50 price tag (super early bird) made this one a no brainier.
Yeah, in my original G8 review, that was pretty much the only con I had for it. The S9 pretty much demolishes that D-pad as far as I am concerned!
I’m over here taking notes again on how to better present my controller reviews. Absolutely great review. Thank you for doing what you do 😊
Well, for what is worth, I love what you do to so thank you, this is very kind of you to say!
oh man another great review, honest and straight forward. I backed it as soon as could, I'm excited for it to come to full production. I've been wanting dual connection of wired and Bluetooth connectivity that ALSO includes headphone jack AND pass through charging. Not to mention with FREEEEEE Software support, my this really is the package. All at the price of $54.88 (shipping was added) as a early bird special, honestly you had me sold from the beginning of the video. Of course the software can be improved more, but with so much time and the amount of people backing this early I'm sure that it'll be much better than what it is now (at least I hope).
Abxylute seems incredibly opened to feedback, they'll soon be creating a channel for reviewers and testers to provide feedback, I'm sure the product the consumers will receive will be improved in some capacity but as you said, and as it stands, this is already an amazing package that they are bringing to market, and that early bird pricing is nothing short of amazing!
Nice intro Klef, you are doing a superb job in your reviews, they are straight to the point and very detailed at the same time, I really appreciate that you share your real experience with the products being as objective as possible. I hope these compaines keep sending you products because thanks to your feedback they will release a better ones in the future.
Thanks @ryd3r007 It means so much you have no idea. I'm always very uncomfortable when I do these quick skits, I hope people won't feel offended that I take a couple seconds to lighten the mood. Plus, I'm never sure if my humour lends at all but I sure do laugh at myself! 😅 Glad to know I'm not the only one, thanks so much!
backed! whats selling me is their software and the capatability with thicker cases. I'm hoping this will be my end game telescopic controller lol. Ive spent enough money buying the Razer Kishi v2 pro, Gamesir X2, and Gamesir G8.
I can definitely see a lot of people park the "FOMO buying" with this one. It really seems to corner a lot of the things a mobile gamer could want!
on the "mod" for the tablet (same with G8+)- do what i did with my Super Nintendo (to play Japanese games) - snip the slide lock on the back... IF you know you know... right?
Not even actually, first of, my apology as I did not do the best of jobs illustrating how on the video. This Shorts shows you better what I did: ua-cam.com/users/shortszCFUT36qrkA
Cheers! :)
I am really surprised I got the notice this morning about the kickstarter going live and like 9 hours later I was still able to get the early early bird first 300 backer pricing.
I think the fact they surprised people with a 2x 49$ bundle definitely gave the opportunity to grab one at 49$ a tad longer. It's nearly done now, good on you for catching one! :)
Hi I’m juz curious do I have to get the extra buttons pack to get the additional dpads or are they available with juz getting the S9 without getting the additional spare parts pack
Nah, so the controller comes with the goodies (2 D-Pads and 2 Taller Sticks), the kit is in case you want extras for safekeeping basically. The one thing that is fully separate is the faceplate. Gotta have me a faceplate 😈
@@GameTechTalk ahh right! I decided to get the white one in the end with the additional face plates! Thanks so much for such an in-depth video on the s9 mans!
I wished these companies would make more accessories because that G8+ is still amazing to me but it would be cool to have custom faceplate OR a primed faceplate we can paint with proper paint of course.
Totally, that or custom buttons. I'd love to see like a Playstation Facelift Kit, an Xbox Facelift Kit, etc etc
🔥 ...backed, can't wait to get mine, love my G8, but as others mentioned a better dpad and rumble is what it was missing and this will bring that and then some pretty much hitting all the check marks, can't beat that for 50-60 bucks is a steal
Indeed it is! I'm so excited for more people to have this controller in their hands, it's really solid!
this looks great, better design than the easy smx m15
They both have qualities of their own but indeed, in terms of design, ergonomics, the S9 takes the crown, as far as I am concerned at least.
Thanks for this. The question is Abxolute S9 or Galileo G8 Plus?
They are both great for different reasons. I will elaborate more on the tierlist video which will release by end of month. But for here and now, I'd say Abxylute S9 at the Kickstarter price is definitely an opportunity one shouldn't miss out on.
Backing now, they seemed to include enough details on the KS to give me an idea on what is the case situation gonna look like.
I didn't pick the case, definitely caught me a faceplate though 😈 I might grab the case before the end of the campaign.
@@GameTechTalk sorry, I ment the phone case
I think the early bird special at $49 is a steal. I can't wait to get my hands on it
Definitely! This controller is a wake up call to most other players in the space.
@@GameTechTalk Have you tried the Razer telescope controller for $150?
@@CasualPooper I have a review of it on my channel and often referred to it since. It's great but it's overpriced in the current landscape of the market. It also has pretty impactful flaws in comparison. If you have questions, ask away, I'm happy to oblige and also, it'll be back in the upcoming telescopic tierlist video.
Does it use 4 long springs in the back to send data between left and and right controller like the g8?
It most certainly does buddy!
Looks a lot like that GameSir G8 to me…🤔🧐
Definitely closer versus something like say the Backbone. However, it feels very different, and has more features such as gyro, Bluetooth and rumble. It’s kind of a hybrid between G8 and G8+.
The G8+ is better in my opinion. Bluetooth and switch compatibility is chef kiss... Ive had 0 issues with rumble either. It feels no different than console when you turn the sensitivity up.
The G8+ is definitely a controller I simply cannot stow away, but depending on what people want, the S9 is up there as a contender. I'll further address this question in my tierlist but make no mistakes, I know how great the G8+ is, the S9 is nothing to scuff at either though.
is this Gamesir G8 (CLONE) version? variation?
It is very akin to it yes. I think it has enough to stand out that it isn't a "clone" but it most certainly takes inspirations from it, at least I believe. But in a year from now, they will all do so in some capacity so they can take inspiration all they want, I just want the best there is. 😈
On modes: I have the EasySMX M15, and this one on order. Now, on the M15, I've only used Android HID mode exclusively, and I haven't found a need to switch modes.
I've only used it for a few Android games, Winlator (for Pico-8), and various emulators, and I'm curious - what are some specific scenarios might require me to switch modes?
Also, did you do polling tests on the M15, and if so, is X-input mode notably superior like it seems to be with the S9?
Some games are finicky with the modes they support, but indeed, emulation would probably never require that at all. COD:M is a very notorious one, so is Honkai: Star Rail. PS Remote Play only works with PS modes. Android HID is not supposed to support rumble nor gyro, though that may potentially be addressed with a second layer. The reality is some people won't need that at all, but I would hope people still know about this because there may come a time that they think their controller don't work when in fact, it works fine, just maybe not for the game (or even worst, on the mode with X device) that they are trying to play with.
Are you able to disassemble to show the connection method between tge left and right controller?
I had a video that I ended up not putting in, when I make a follow-up video, I'll add it. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk so it uses the same mechanism as the gamesir?
@@ivana6141 Yup, the coils serve the data from left to right side!
@GameTechTalk look at you answering all my questions. Thanks dude.
@@ivana6141 🫡
Review sold me on this. Gonna cop one next week for sure. Great review as usual I appreciated the longer review for this one. Btw I didnt catch any gameplay of you ising it but the on screen mapping for games without native support like Wuthering Waves works right?
So I couldn't test the mapping software (which there will be an official one for the controller) because that portion of the software is not yet available. Also, in case anyone wonders, I would expect that software to only be Android capable (as is always the case).
@@GameTechTalkGood thing I use android I guess.
Do three thumbsticks have light tension. I musch prefer light tension.
My sticks are at 0.6n which I'd say is about average. The Steam Deck is also 0.6n for example.
@@GameTechTalk that's good
Would you choose this over the gamesir for xl tablets. The gamesir g8 angles it's hand grips outwards more which is ok for a controller because there isn't a massive tablet in the center. The abxylute has you cupping it from the bottom more allowing you to support the weight from the bottom.
@@ivana6141 Over the G8, yes. Over the G8+, I'm still forming my opinion and I will lay down my thoughts on my upcoming tierlist video! :)
Ok with usb-c but I want to change button like G8+.
Seems like that one feature will be for a future model. It's a neat touch of the G8+ for sure!
This or G8+ for Z Fold? Given the Android cons and right side USB C on this
The G8+ sure is sweet for Folds since you can reposition your device, with that said, because the grips of the S9 pull down so much, I do find that it is a particularly pleasant experience on the Z Fold. You can't really go wrong either way, so I'd focus on where your needs are better answered, for example the 3.5mm jack, is it important for you? If so, that seals it pretty quickly.
Also, I’ve been wondering. Do these controllers that have a spoofed Switch mode actually work on Switch?
They actually do, but that one is a bit of a stretch, if just because you have a USB-C trying to stab your Switch! 😂
The back paddles actually work on iOS? They never have on the GameSir controllers
They do yeah! And you'll be able to remap 'em on iOS no problems!
Nice vidéo. Différence with the gamesir ?
Thanks! Probably too much to put that in a YT comment but it also has a lot in common. G8/G8+ will definitely remain a very solid option but Abxylute seems to want to established themselves and I think that product is more than "good enough" to make that happen.
1:51 into the video I clicked the link and pledged to the kickstarter 😬
I hope you still watched the rest :3 jk jk thanks for being here, much appreciated! :)
@@GameTechTalklol I watched it all.
@@hardknock55 My guy! 👊
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You reckon they’ll add some small RGB elements perhaps if you provide them feedback?
- Perhaps around the thumb sticks?
I doubt it's possible at this point, they are probably too far into production to make significant changes. However, feedback should always be embraced, I'll let them know, thanks for bringing your suggestion to me bud!
hey, did you know what is the price of this controller after the Kickstarter? I have in mind buy it but i don't have the money right now, thanks 😄
I believe they are saying 99USD, then again, most products I've seen always end up selling at somewhere between the crowdfunding price, and the "suggested retail price". So maybe it'll be 85-90USD? I couldn't tell you, that'll depend on them.
AlrighT...
The ABXYLUTE S9 controller is in the building...
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Most certainly good friend, most certainly!
This is disappointing, the analog stick on the right side is the make or break for me and that’s terrible for comfort things I can conclude with out picking this up is you’ll have dead pinky after a bit of gaming, and your thumb will be contorting while trying to be competitive in first person shooters or any game that you need to control the camera. This is TERRIBLE DESIGN why do all telescopic controllers continue trying to cut down size instead of making an actual comfortable controller.
Are you referring to the vertical alignment with face buttons? Or do you mean because the sticks are asymmetrical? I've played with it about 2 hours in bed last night, so far so good I gotta say. I also was provided with a new firmware, gyro is working considerably better but I didn't use it. I stuck to sticks only.
@@GameTechTalk I’m referring to how the small form factor makes it less enjoyable I own a gamesir g8 with similar ergonomics and it collects dust now due to how uncomfortable it is to play warzone mobile. I shouldn’t have to change my grip to have fun playing games normally.
@@ForgetDanny95 Wait, are you telling me that you find the GameSir G8 to be "small form-factor"?!? I mean... At this point, I feel like I'm hearing that you'd want an Xbox Duke as a telescopic controller, nothing wrong with that but I can't think of the G8 being small form-factor, nor do I think that of the S9, I'm sincerely confused here.
Edit: And I agree wholeheartedly about the grip, that's why this aspect chocked me with this controller. Because it's natural, at least to me, whereas usually, I hate having to do that. In fact, I'm sure I have videos out there complaining about the exact thing that I praised the S9 for, but with this controller, it feels great both ways, I don't know why it does but it does.
Bruhhh, my first backed Kickstarter 🤑 If it wasn't for your vid, I wouldn't have landed the $49 essspecial so here's my thanks. PS - I really like when u act goofy. The world is too serious, too freakin sensitive. We are gamers so we are kids at heart so yeah, keep dishin out the lulz 😁 PS #2 - I'm the one who said I'll fight u for seeing how u mount your Fold to these 😄but hey, looks pretty good on this ctrl
Dang... Wow, this doesn't happen. And I know that it's part of the gig if I want to be there long enough to achieve the level I hope to one day, but it still touches me deeply that you'd go to this extent.
Thank you, immensely, and for your trust, and the kind and reassuring words you said to me. 🥹 P.S. Don't take this Fold mount for granted, I will deceive you again, 'tis a promise! 😈😂
Great review like always, only place I watch for my info. I backed this up right at 8 and got the early bird special. Only thing is, I bought the g8+ less than 2 weeks ago, I'm really not sure if I should keep it or return it
I think the number one question you want to ask yourself with the G8+ is, do you use it as a Switch controller? Because if you do, I think that warrants keeping it as it is a VERY SOLID solution for Switch. If you don't, then that's up to you but as it stands, the S9 does have advantages over it, but no bluetooth PS mode for Android. So there's that too to consider.
Great vid, thanks for all the info. I think for this to be worth it over the g8+ the usb-c connector needs to be able to fold away or removed. Not sure of the benefit of including bluetooth without that ability. Does the controller have an internal battery?
It does not have an internal battery. The reason for bluetooth is because some games lock their compatibility to a single manufacturer, like COD:M with Backbone. So the other solution is to be connected Bluetooth where PS and Xbox controllers are almost always supported. This way, you can "have you cake and eat it too" even if companies like to make back alley deals that mess up with gamer's owned hardware.
This seems like a lot of work to get these to play and work great.. I'll just wait til that one comes along, under $70. Thanks for sharing tho. New follower here!
Happy to have you tag along for the ride! It can get complicated to get the full experience but depending on how you game, it may be far simpler than what I presented. It all comes down to the way these are being used but indeed, I do wish it was made simpler. Abxylute did say on their Discord that they intend to have the modes be swappable through the software, that would make things way easier and convenient!
Oh wow, EasySMX M15 looks so comfortable to hold too!
Most certainly that it is!
:( I wanna cop a razer edge but people are saying the heat is insane and fan is loud. I’m gonna get the ally instead I can’t go back to 60hz
The chip on the Razer Edge is clearly designed to work with active cooling, as was Quest 2. I wouldn't go as far as saying it is loud, but in contrast, a lot of devices use passive cooling and when comparing one to the other, yeah that can take one by surprise.
When you get to the modes, it shows how borked the mobile gaming input is. The compatibility modes are just too much to cover.
How I wish it was standardized but that licensing game is just too strong. Companies rely on that profit from partner hardware makers. Thankfully, those protocols eventually get picked up on but the reality is that we might run into that issue again (and worst) in a generation or two. Apple with MFi is making so much money, I don't see the likes of Sony, Nintendo and/or Microsoft backing out of that approach.
And thats why an amazing controller is essentially ruined for me. They did everything else right but didnt get the right stick placement on point. Sigh...
It looks like standard placement to me
I sympathize, I know you're not the only one to wish for symmetrical sticks. I've gotten used to both personally, to the point that I don't really have a preference anymore but you are far from being the only one that does. Hopefully, we'll see more and more companies cater to those who do. @jaydev504
I laughed and laughed. Bloody well done opener young lad. I personally don't like that ABXYLUTE is sending out an unfinished product to content creators but I see this as the company gathering feedback prior to finalized release.
For me it's a wait and see from the wider community. Oh course, it will be about 10 minutes before someone else puts out another telescopic to compete with this badboy.
Ahh dang! It fills my heart reading that I got to provide you some laughters! Especially when daring a little more! I can understand where your head's at. I mean if we're being honest, there is no affiliate link with this endeavor, there's also "beta testing" to some extent but you know what the "payout" will be? Knowing that I can contribute in some capacity in helping this product improve over time for all the passionate like us that will buy this thing. That's what I am most excited about! So, a few kinks to iron out most certainly, but rest assured, I'll be here "double-time" reporting with other creators whatever we can to make this as great as it possibly can be!
Thanks for your support Hunter, oh and next telescopic controller video in 10 minutes indeed! 🤣
@@GameTechTalk Well my lad, it's not gone unnoticed that your the man in the Abxylute S9 Discord channel.
@@STR82DVD Thanks for thinking so, definitely a serendipitous outcome if I ever can describe one. 😊 I'm just excited to have the opportunity to help a product be better for gamers, especially one that starts with such a good foundation to continue to improve from.
@@GameTechTalk Everyone appreciates your effort man. You are the go-to for controller reviews lad. Everyone in the game knows that lad
Finally
🫡 Happy to oblige Sabo!
this looks so good. i love the purple
It's great looking, even better holding it!
Klef, does the rumble work on GeForce Now? I know that the G8+ does.
That might take tomorrow for me to get that info but not to fear, I'll get that answer. 🫡
@@GameTechTalk Huge thanks lad. It's my deciding factor to be totally honest.
@@STR82DVD I've been thinking, that video is kind of a full circle moment! I found an internet friend, probably the best thing to come out of that first Abxylute review. ;)
I tested GFN with the controller and no rumble. I'm on the free tier mind you but I have researched this and apparently it's a GFN Android specific thing and that their software is tied to their rumble protocol which never made it past the Shield controller (I used to have one of those but it broke 😢). I still have my fat Shield Portable though, 1st edition!
So yeah, seems like it won't work until Nvidia update their stuff!
@@GameTechTalk That's a very interesting outcome because apparently, now I've not tried this but, if you put the G8+ in x-input mode whilst running it on an Android device, the rumble works on GFN.
I'm not sure it's true because I was aware that the rumble on protocol on my shield controllers was proprietary. Odd situation and kind of a poor showing for Nvidia tbh.
@@STR82DVD Say less, I'm getting that info for you friend! 🫡 Will report back ASAP!
Looks nice but I think I'm done with telescopic controllers for right now. I recently picked up the G8, G8+, and M15.
I'm just wondering what's stopping manufacturers from putting the USB-C port on the left side instead. This wouldn't really harm regular slab phones. Yeah the power and volume might be on the bottom but I think this is still fine. Foldables will benefit the most tho. I will wait for that as my next telescopic controller.
I think it's more of a software issue. Not sure about iPhone, but with Android, many, MANY games are forcing the phone rotation with the usb port on the right side. If you turn it with the port on the left, you are going to play with the game upside down. You can use some apps to override the forced rotation and make it rotate the other way, but it's not something intuitive to do, many people would likely not think of this solution and would probably just return the controller.
🫡 Let me first throw you a salute. MY GUY, I get it. I totally do. Why need 4 when you can really only use one at a time. However, I must honestly say that as I was talking about the D-Pad in the video, you crossed my mind. Dead serious. You are the guy that likes the G8 D-Pad (how could you?!? 😆). Jk jk of course, but hopefully, you get your hands on one eventually and if you do, I'd love to get your inputs because we seem to like very different d-pads (M6-HD also comes to mind) so I was literally wondering what you would've said, not even joking.
You're not in Montreal by any chance, I'll have you try it! 😅 @volcalstone
@AndreaB6 You are absolutely right about the rotation aspect, in fact, I would always use a software called: "Force Landscape" many many moons ago, and that was one of the reasons, that and forcing landscape in non-landscape games such as Mario Run.
@@GameTechTalk haha I thought you said the G8 was S tier when it came to the D-pad? The D-pad on the M6-HD is ok, not the best functionality. I prefer a membrane D-pad personally. This one in the video looks interesting tho. I ended up picking up the G8 again recently as it was only $40. Gonna test it out again. 😁
Nope I don't love near Montreal. I'm here in the States where Cali is at. Our D-pads over here hit a little harder you know. Hehe.
@@volcalstone Ahaha, quite the opposite, it was my only con on the G8! 😅
Dang Cali uh? Gonna need to have that 1v1 one of those days! 😂