Should Muslim MEN Take Welfare Benefits? || Chai With My Bhai
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
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Imran Ibn Mansur, Abu Bakr, and Abbas Wavy tackle the sensitive topic: Should Muslim men rely on welfare benefits? Hear their heartfelt perspectives as they share their take on the matter.
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I never usually comment on UA-cam videos but Wallahi this is the best video I’ve watched from you brothers. It made me see my issues from a different perspective I didn’t fully grasp. Tawfeeq from Allah + mindset and continuously working on yourself while sacrificing secondary pleasures is the recipe to achieving anything. May Allah bless you all.
I don’t normally comment but honestly this was the BEST podcast you have ever done!!!! The issue of brothers claiming benefits instead of going out looking for a job is a real issue in the UK and has a huge impact on our society and the progression of the ummah as a whole. Please can you talk more about this issue. Thanks
Indeed! Yet they are here crying they feel judged, that they should focus on dawah and the deen. They forget this is part of the deen
Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn Al-‘Aas reported, I heard Allah’s Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) as saying, “Allah wrote down the decrees of creation fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth, as His Throne was upon water.”
This video was very much needed for me to wake up. May Allah grant your more success.
There’s a difference between have a council flat and taking housing Benefits. I encourage brother to get a council house save up and buy it at discount instead of getting stuck in the rent trap and fall into mortgage game.
Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wabarakatu. Looking at the comments I will say this. For the people missing the old days, this is Alhamdulillah another stage of the journey, perhaps one day this will pass and another new thing will come. Let's benefit from the brothers efforts In'Sha'Allah. JazakAllahu Khairan
Assalamulaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu brothers and sisters :)
If you watch the intro itself, not even the entire video, you'll notice that Abu Bakr mentioned that this video is about a self-defeating MINDSET that many brothers are inflicting themselves with.
The video is not about circumstances, and it's not even really about welfare itself.
Every single one of us on the podcast has, throughout this video, made at least one disclaimer that this video is not about circumstances, and that we are not talking to those who are in genuine need of welfare. I would love to talk to you guys about this more, if you find that you truly disagree with one of the takes in the video, comment below and I'm sure we can talk about it
What I’ll say is this…
I went to university, got my degree.
I was working for an Islamic charity but lost my job.
I applied for no joke 100s of jobs
Changed my cv
Using ai to improve my cv, asking friends and family and going to career events to improve my cv
All I got was one interview and didn’t get the job
I was married and trying to support my wife
I applied for universal credit, got my construction card and now bagged an apprenticeship in the construction field.
If it wasn’t for universal credit I don’t know what I would have done
الله مستعان...
In Allah we seek assistance...
I'm in a position no different to you however I am not eligible for social benefits though I thank and praise Allah ﷻ for what I have from food, drink, clothing, and knowledge
He said if you are trying, he isn’t talking about you. But the question we have to ask ourselves, have we really tried all avenues? Or are we only convincing ourselves that we’re trying.
if it wasn't for Allah *
I like these, good reminders. Reminds me of the word ihsan. There is an Islamic meaning but it also means to do beatiful things and do it the best you can. We should strive to be the best we can at all that we do.
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Can part 2 to this be made I’ve found this really beneficial
Abbas needs to stop saying "Wallahi" everytime he gives an opinion. He's done this in other podcasts too. The opinions aren't even stated in Qur'an and sunnah, it's his own thoughts. Please stop swearing by Allah unnecessarily.
This is a very good advice, baarakallahu feek thank you. It's become a bit of a habit but I agree with you, I should reduce it
The red bar on the timeline actually made me want to skip it. I thought i had already watched it and decided to leave watching it - it must've been boring.
You're doing an excellent job, and please don't let negative comments get to you. Allah has elevated Muslims to the highest degree in paradise, so in my opinion, they should hold a similar status in this world, given that Allah controls both realms.
Regarding spirituality, living in the UAE hasn't diminished the spiritualness of these brothers.
Sometimes, I pray for the people in Gaza and reflect on what actions I can take beyond words. The best action for the ummah's strength is unity among Muslims to prevent tragedies like Gaza from recurring. This is what these brothers are advocating for. Before criticizing others, it's essential to self-reflect, as each of us has the time and capability to contribute positively rather than engaging in negative comments on platforms like UA-cam.
Yes, brother, I feel for you and I also have nothing better to do than write UA-cam comments
Indeed! They forget these brothers are seeking knowledge directly from scholars, so brother imran will of course share whatever he’s learned. Bi ithni llah
It’s just that his audience are very young. I left the group knowledge college years ago as I found out I was arguing with teenagers SubhanAllah
With their mindset, they believe this channel should be about dawah alone and don’t realise all these advises about finances etc are part of the deen .
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So what are you saying that if you live in social housing you shouldn’t be? You should go and pay market rate and give away free money to RENT another property with no security (short term contracts) ?
Not everyone that is living in social housing is on benefits but I’m confused as to whether you are saying that social housing is also discouraged whether you are on benefits or not?
Wow there are a lot of negative comments here. I get what the brothers are saying. We as Muslims should be hardworking and not rely on handouts and benefits. We should have a good work ethic.
There has been a major shift in his videos the last couple of months it’s kind of sad
@@ChildishLoona this is a really important topic though. Our lives revolve around work so this needs to be discussed. A Muslim who hustles and works can do more for the ummah than someone who simply sits back and relies on handouts.
@shabana378 it is a very important topic. But I know from experience that everyone's circumstances are different. And one thing that is important is balance. With work, personal, and getting a stronger relationship with Allah swt
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But sometimes we don't have a choice and I'm a perfect example of that. I've been unemployed for 2+ years now . I can't keep a job, and nothing I try works, so in my case, what am I supposed to do?
to the Akh who made that thumbnail, that timeline was smart ;)
Omds ikr
It worked yeh hahaha
Bruv that took me by surprise, such a clever idea
I am happy for uou
Just to clarify the eligibility criteria for council housing isn't always for those on low income/benefits, for some if not most, it could be living in an overcrowded family home and the council facilitate by allowing you to be on the register to bid for flats and houses to move out of your overcrowded family home. I think this situation shouldn't be seen as taking welfare benefits or being a bum
Being overcrowded is the reason why my parents got their four bedroom council house bc they had five kids in a 3 bed house before and there wasn't enough room. ☺️
انا اختكم من اليمن والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وامي وخواتي نحن في حاله لا يعلم بها الا الله حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل في من اوصلنا الى هاذا الحال وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 6 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 15 الف يمني والان علينا 45 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه خواتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني بقدر استطاعتك مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم00967717415667 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيرا`°`^``{`}|π√`^~÷،،،،،،،
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These guys need to make a video on how the Salaf were with regards to wealth. I would advise Muslims to follow AMAU's UA-cam channel, where you will actually benefit yourself.
I haven't watched this fully but did the brothers cover the fact that some brothers are sick ie with cancer/chronic health conditions/disabilities in the UK and cannot work?
yes
they did very early on in the video as a disclaimer
Yes we did
May Allah cure
Them Ameen and make things easier for them
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If you see the comments you see brothers striving for money they forget rizq is written why run after it????
As salamu alaykum
I love this podcast I have been watching you guys for almost a decade, may Allah increase you guys in good.
The only issue is the talking over each other, laughing while someone is talking, it’s a bit annoying because it’s very repetitive.
Walaikum as salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatahu thanks for the feedback
Insha Allah we’ll work on it
Benefits is a right. Not a privilege. Hazrat Umar may Allah be pleased with him started the benefits system. In UAE they pay Emirati citizens 20,000 dollars for just getting married. But if you are fit and well you should work more and claim less benefits.
Even billionaires get tax breaks from government to help grow their businesses.
Why the hell do billionaires need help from taxpayers does not make sense. I guess it comes down to greed
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You had first the dawah on youtube thats how you got the umrah trips and the paying for ilm lessons made you guys rich hamdoe li Allah but i dont think that making lots of money is a goal in this dunia we should strive for the here after you demotivate lots of young brothers with a normal job the new dawah man is only talking about money from ramadan untill today why your leaving london when lots of youngsters need dawah you should return to the old way of making dawah this is not the way of the salaf
You are wrong! Muslims need to strive for wealth too. We are becoming weak muslims. Tauheed Tuesdays doesn't make you a momin. Why can't we take the example of H.z Abdul Rehman Bin Auf. Who sacrificed his wealth multiple times fi sabil illah, while gaining ilm and spending it fi sabil illah too. Did he just study all day and night and got rich doing nothing? No! Rather he worked so hard, that when he was offered half of the wealth by Ansar in Madinah, he chose to work on his own. Have you ever thought why he didn't chose to accept that and spend more time studying, practicing and memorizing more ahadith, and giving dawah.
We are here to worship Allah this is why we are here the dunya is not the reason we are here. More people have forgotten Allah and spend more time doing other things and neglecting the masjid I am talking about the men now. Money comes and goes and I lost money and Allah has given me and I am a sister Alhumduillah.
Brother Abu bakr you said : only by the tawfeeq of Allah and your hard work , and this is incorrect because you should have said : only by the tawfeeq of Allah then your effort
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Sorry the brothers on sunnah match are not high quality 💀🤣🤣
You know what's crazy? Some of these muslim receive these benefits and still end up in debt instead of saving that money they would have spent for housing. Take advantage while you can, but you shouldn't be in the state of always receiving benefits, move up cmon. I LIKE these videos, we muslim should want to do good in the Dunya and our deen. We can have both, if done in accordance with allah.
Funny that fat/skinny fat people are talking about holding themselves to high esteem and having high self worth when in reality they only adopt this thought process in one aspect. Also funny that majority of people that put money in their pockets via umrah with the mandem are on benefits or living in a council flat. The humility is missing on this one but in fairness, the closest one to being balanced is Imran. Allahul musta'an. At the same time if you have no care or drive to have enough to make hijrah or be financial free as a man you need to check yourself.
Did we watch the same video?
A lot of triggered people yet again. Despite them mentioning the exceptions to the rule you still found a reason to get angry.
Instead of channeling this anger to make a comment, you could’ve used that to better yourself and take accountability!
I’m no where near rich but I can tell when people are triggered.
I think and I believe and in my opinion are not proofs. The scholars should be the ones making a ruling on this. Not a podcast.
Nothing wrong with welfare. It's our right, even under Islam, the basic right off every human is free housing, free food and free utilities
I agree but not right to lie to get it then the money well be haram.
No it’s not our right, work hard for yourself and tie your camel. Nothing in this life is free, that’s such a lazy mindset to have as a Muslim. It’s embarrassing to see some Muslim families in the UK still living on benefits despite being in this country for years. It’s nothing to be proud of.
Muhammad (SAW) stated, “There is no right that the son of Adam is more entitled to other than these (four) rights: A home to live in, a garment to cover his nakedness, a piece of bread, and water.”[At-Tirmidhi].
Holy Prophet (SAW) said, “The Muslims are partners in (co-owners of) three things: water, pasture and fire - and their price is unlawful.”
We have been living in darkness for so long without sharia, that we have forgotten the beauty of it. Now all our concern is, how to pay our rent and put food on our table. It's the states duty under Islam to provide all the above for free, so that Muslims can focus on other things such as family and spreading our religion.
Love these videos
You have changed bro, not everyone can be some sort of millionaire. Money and greed has overtaken you and it’s become evident in how you have been moving the last couple of months, you’ve almost completely ditched Dawah and put it into snippets as part of your podcast. May Allah guide you, this ain’t the Imran I use to know and love
These brothers use their wealth to help the ummah. Have you not seen all the charity projects they do? They have always used their wealth to teach and give dawah. You can do extraordinarily good deeds if you are rich and loaded. But you can only be rich if you're willing to grind.
In terms of counsil housing, i think it is smart to take advantage of it when available. If for example you want to stay in your major city and the gov gives you an apartment which isn't a hood or drug infested area, take it. You already pay enough in taxes so go benefit from your hard work. Taking welfare cheques is different as that entails you don't have a job but getting subsidized housing is free game.
It's better to be in a Muslim country than stay in subsidised housing in the lands of the kuffar. Obviously there are some exceptions such as those scholars giving dawah in the west to people that haven't left
Not all of us was raised a Muslim and born in a Muslim country there are reverts and not all Muslim countries gives out visas why most people don't have common sense to say these things.
Cheeky thumbnail 😂
This for women too?
A woman should have her own money you never know what could happen, I never use to think like this but after a bad situation a woman needs to have her own halal money. The only one you can count on is Allah not a man.
But obviously if you are sick or disabled, then yeah you have to rely on benefits.
We mentioned this
@@RighteousnRich I am so grateful that you brothers are talking about this topic. It is not befitting for a Muslim to be lazy and take benefits. We should be hardworking individuals who hustle. Jazakallah khair for speaking up about this.
Grifters
The dawah Tates
Take them hand outs from the government my dear brothers and defraud them as that money is intended destroy our brothers and sisters.
Haram to tell Muslims to defraud the government even if it's a kuffar government it don't matter as haram money is haram. Only Allah knows if you really are a Muslim by your comment I won't be shocked if you are not a Muslim and you telling the Muslims to lie and cheat which is haram. Stop the fitnah. Don't tell Muslims to do haram if your a cheater well there are us who are not. If a government helps with benefits there is obligations that people have to do to get those benefits and being honest is one of them. A Muslim should always have Iza and be honest.
asalamu alaikum
i just really found it so weird why people keep continuing by using wrong words or some mix what so ever... such none sense though
ok one question how about if your escaping gang life?
there's alot of ways or should i say,, more productive rather those such nonesense and grrrrrrr
You can feed lion tho
That’s a domesticated lion, a prisoner of this world, waiting for the day to be set free so it can catch its own prey….
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I am assuming you guys live in Dubai... Every emirati lives on welfare, you could say. Maybe you should speak to them
Its not wrong to be rich wealthy, AS long as its make sure HALAL earnings, and you don't become desperate for wealth and give islamic duties a secondary thoughts, if wealth becomes your primary goal then your God becomes your wealth and richness so keep hearts minds clean from wealth just keep it under the hand not above...may Allah subhana guide us all Ameen ya rahima rabbi Allah.