@pacoramon9468 De la Cierva fought for making flight safer by designing an aircraft that couldn't stall. Ironically he died in an DC2 airplane that had stalled close to the ground on take off.
"Zhu-anne de la Cierva"? I've never heard "Juan" pronounced that way before. I've always heard it pronounced something like "Wawn" (rhymes with "lawn"), although in Spain it has a somewhat more guttural start than in Mexican Spanish.
hang on you cant determine the cause of accident by that footage. Its not complete. There is a section of footage missing. Its 2 separate pices of footage with the roll over in the second pice of footage. that footage shows the craft being rolled over backwards whilst on the ground...its extremely windy as shown by the rapid movement of dust. This aircraft is a tail dragger and for good reason. Its attitude is set to allow for a ground run that will enable the rotor to be brought up to speed on a take off run. You will notice in the first pice of footage the attitude of the aircraft in pitch for level flite and you will notice in the second pice of footage the pitched up attitude of the aircraft when sitting on the ground.it should be no surprise that any aircraft could roll over backwards in a 20 or 25 knot wind if you were to increase the angle of attack. This aircraft was simply out side of its operational wether window....this is not a situation of loss of control due to low air sped or insufficient control surfaces....you should know better that although the ground speed was slow the air speed was not.it anoys me that you speak with authority but in reality you have no idea what your talking about here.
Hey Russell - Just a couple of things. The first is my films and the opinions within are not well researched and so any conclusion I make or opinions given are not necessarily based upon a piece of film stitched into my work. There are very good documents and books that give more of the facts from witness or pilot evidence given at the time. Hence my conclusion in the accident here. Then we come to the crown jewels of your moan up. There is more than a little irony in your sudden suggestion that the wind speed is 20 or 25 knots because of some movement of dust and then run me over around ground v airspeed. Err even if we take your numbers - which of course we can't know - is that since when has 20-25 knots been something obviously deemed sufficient for level/sustained flight?
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 you say" There are very good documents and books that give more of the facts from witness or pilot evidence given at the time. Hence my conclusion in the accident here." if you have links to documents on the cause id love to see them.
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 you say :"since when has 20-25 knots been something obviously deemed sufficient for level/sustained flight?" for your education true or false there is a pitcam video on utube that claims 17.5 knots level flyte.the pitcam has wings with elirond and a rudder and elivators.the elivator and rudder receive prop wash.your claim of loss of pitch controll at low speeds needs revisiting.and your definition of low speed in the above aircraft needs revisiting.
@@russellwilson5246 Hi - Its fine to troll as I'll just make the assumption that you don't know what you don't know. So documents as it relates to the film here we have an accident report and an entire Pathe film report! Then there are over 100 films on my channel that have taken a long time to research happy for you to point out the errors.
@@russellwilson5246 Hello again - I'm glad you are enjoying my channel so much and illuminating to my channel subscribers that not only does you spell and grammar checker need some work but you have found 1 single example of an aircraft that apparently with the help of prop wash that discredits my view. Really? Then educate yourself and discover that a Pitcairn PCA-2 has circa 300hp from its P&W Wasp motor whilst the C19 in the film above that is causing you such drama has an Armstrong Siddeley motor of circa 100hp.
Brilliant stuff, thanks for making this!👍
This is fantastic! I really hope there’s more.
Mike Graham hello Mike yes I’ll aim to get a new part up per day, total of around 4-5parts
Is a shame De la Cierva died so young (41), a man ahead of his time that changed aviation history at the age of 16.
@pacoramon9468 De la Cierva fought for making flight safer by designing an aircraft that couldn't stall. Ironically he died in an DC2 airplane that had stalled close to the ground on take off.
Great work Phil keep them coming...
Awesome documentary! I'm excited for the rest of it!
Virginia Hansen hi I will try and get a new one up everyday. Total should be about 4-5 parts
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 Awesome!
I just love the four-man prerotator. Don't have one myself. Armstrong only.
Well done!
"Zhu-anne de la Cierva"? I've never heard "Juan" pronounced that way before. I've always heard it pronounced something like "Wawn" (rhymes with "lawn"), although in Spain it has a somewhat more guttural start than in Mexican Spanish.
Haha good point likely my poor pronunciation!
How many Gyro pilots here are actually flying a tail dragger?
NZ Salt Flats Racer hi what in the 1920-30s or today?
Not many. I mean, there's the Little Wing and the Bulldog, but not many others... I'm certainly not.
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 The question was "are" as in today! I've just started going through a Subaru powered Pitbull SS that I got out of Canada.
NZ Salt Flats Racer hi my apologies- in the UK there are none.
hang on you cant determine the cause of accident by that footage. Its not complete. There is a section of footage missing. Its 2 separate pices of footage with the roll over in the second pice of footage. that footage shows the craft being rolled over backwards whilst on the ground...its extremely windy as shown by the rapid movement of dust. This aircraft is a tail dragger and for good reason. Its attitude is set to allow for a ground run that will enable the rotor to be brought up to speed on a take off run. You will notice in the first pice of footage the attitude of the aircraft in pitch for level flite and you will notice in the second pice of footage the pitched up attitude of the aircraft when sitting on the ground.it should be no surprise that any aircraft could roll over backwards in a 20 or 25 knot wind if you were to increase the angle of attack. This aircraft was simply out side of its operational wether window....this is not a situation of loss of control due to low air sped or insufficient control surfaces....you should know better that although the ground speed was slow the air speed was not.it anoys me that you speak with authority but in reality you have no idea what your talking about here.
Hey Russell - Just a couple of things. The first is my films and the opinions within are not well researched and so any conclusion I make or opinions given are not necessarily based upon a piece of film stitched into my work. There are very good documents and books that give more of the facts from witness or pilot evidence given at the time. Hence my conclusion in the accident here. Then we come to the crown jewels of your moan up. There is more than a little irony in your sudden suggestion that the wind speed is 20 or 25 knots because of some movement of dust and then run me over around ground v airspeed. Err even if we take your numbers - which of course we can't know - is that since when has 20-25 knots been something obviously deemed sufficient for level/sustained flight?
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 you say" There are very good documents and books that give more of the facts from witness or pilot evidence given at the time. Hence my conclusion in the accident here." if you have links to documents on the cause id love to see them.
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 you say :"since when has 20-25 knots been something obviously deemed sufficient for level/sustained flight?" for your education true or false there is a pitcam video on utube that claims 17.5 knots level flyte.the pitcam has wings with elirond and a rudder and elivators.the elivator and rudder receive prop wash.your claim of loss of pitch controll at low speeds needs revisiting.and your definition of low speed in the above aircraft needs revisiting.
@@russellwilson5246 Hi - Its fine to troll as I'll just make the assumption that you don't know what you don't know. So documents as it relates to the film here we have an accident report and an entire Pathe film report! Then there are over 100 films on my channel that have taken a long time to research happy for you to point out the errors.
@@russellwilson5246 Hello again - I'm glad you are enjoying my channel so much and illuminating to my channel subscribers that not only does you spell and grammar checker need some work but you have found 1 single example of an aircraft that apparently with the help of prop wash that discredits my view. Really? Then educate yourself and discover that a Pitcairn PCA-2 has circa 300hp from its P&W Wasp motor whilst the C19 in the film above that is causing you such drama has an Armstrong Siddeley motor of circa 100hp.