Typical HubNut Chaos! 2CV unready for roadtrip, breaks the back up car..
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- I try to fix issues on my Citroen 2CV ahead of a roadtrip, find more problems then break my backup car... (Ford AU Fairmont). All very HubNut! Can I end up with a working, legal vehicle?
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I love how you stay calm (or at least appear to 😉) despite all the frustrations.
Makes this catalogue of disasters actually fun to watch!
It's no fun watching someone getting stressed & miserable.
Tuk, is relieved not to be classed as "dead" but just resting.....😂😂😂
Pining for the Fords?
@@chengdogu6352😂😂😂
I like the way the 2CV rear light lens pattern looks like pixels. A futuristic feature!
Well done for staying calm and getting the MoT sorted!
I am always thankful for living in Perth, Australia where our climate classed as dry. After 30 years here, I have forgotten how damp the UK can be and all the issues it causes to cars. We don't have the same issues with rust as the UK. Good to see Elly out and about on a video.
Hear Hear 👍
You have a poor connection, the serrated washers are there to bite into the steel to avoid them be coming loose , not as an earth return…..however it seems like they are used as an earth on Elly , you could fit earth fly lead between the lamp and the body
No touchy bulbs with your hands you naughty boy, get to the back of the class!🤣
Those calipers appear to be Aluminium and the dust boot groove is full of Aluminium corrosion. Might be a good idea to send them in to Bigg Red for a rebuild.
Brake calipers do not work they way many people think they do. The piston does not move in the seal for normal brake application, but only to take up wear. The seal groove is angled at the bottom and the seal rolls or distorts into the groove. When the seal relaxes, it pulls the piston back to reduce brake drag. If the seal groove has dirt or corrosion in it, that will prevent the seal distorting and relaxing like it should. It also grips the piston making it more difficult to slide. If the piston and caliper bore are clean, but the piston is reluctant to move, that's a good clue that there's a problem with the seal groove. It could also mean that the brake fluid was contaminated and the seal has swollen.
Crikey all those vehicles & a ton of hassles!!! Glad you managed to get Ellie through an MOT in the end.
The dimming on the lights (after disco mode was fixed) is normal voltage drop when the engine's not running (and if the battery's a bit tired/undercharged), if the dimming was a lot greater I'd be looking at moist wiring causing a high-resistance connection somewhere down the line, but on the plus side, no grease guns were harmed in the making of this video... :P
That is exactly what I was going to say. Generally it is much better to test the lights with the engine running.
Always used to fit a separate star earth at the rear as well as a earth back to the front of the car when I rewired Landrovers. Endless problems with earth faults on the rear lights otherwise. Ground contact via the light fitting mounting bolts was never a good idea.
Those rear lights. LOL. Haunted. Elly-phantom in the room.
Been there, a few months ago my Polo, Herald , Merc 190 and three motorcycles were all inoperative! Me and the family were completely reliant on our 170k Scenic 2😬😬😬
Be careful. If lights are cross illuminating it can be caused by a wiring failure when 2 or more have (usually) worn against each other. Especially on older cars the next phase can be a fire which I have experienced once and seen once.
Clean gator and super glue it for now then replace gator later
Every year for the MOT I have to wiggle the bulbs in the rear lights of the CX to get the full complement, and they seem to work all year after that, until the following spring after the winter hibernation when 2 or 3 go on strike again. It's a ritual I quite enjoy now.
I did something similar to my R reg Marina saloon several years ago! I ended up drilling a small hole in the 'backplate', attatched a nut, bolt, 2 shakeproof washers, reassembling (having sprayed the reflectors with chrome paint!) and then attaching a new earth lead after refitting it all!
Gosh, they were bright after that! Several workmates asked me to 'tune up' their taillights after that! :-)
Well Done 👍
That's the way we like HubNut: a little bit chaotic!
You can buy a universal CV boot kit that you trim each end to the diameter of the cv joint and other end to the driveshaft. Might pay for you to get a couple of these and keep them in stock.
With Betty's caliper you ought to send the caliper to Bigg Red who properly recondition them at a reasonable price.
Typical vwcoco day aswell . Gets you down when nothing goes right and everything goes wrong . Good luck and good Old Ford
Wow, that went all very HubNut. Well done on the MOT. Poor Betty is not having a great time. 😕
Dang MOTs! I’d probably try and stitch up the Gator until I could get one, but that probably wouldn’t past MOT. Sounds like Tim and I think alike though.
The fix was fine for the MOT. And 200 miles!
Also check the earth cable from body to battery, plus do the test with the engine running, you just could be straining the battery a bit causing less power going to the lights,
Earth problems can be a pain in the proverbial to trace in older cars
First of all, nice job! Nothing as satisfying as jobs like these and especially on classic cars.
Beautiful rear lights totally indeed.
Cheers from Belgium 🇧🇪
It's always nice to know that other people also has days like this. When everything escalates.
But then you just have to remember the days when everything just flows.
It’s nice to see that you’ve pixilated the rear lights to protect their privacy…
As soon as I saw those lights at one min in I said to myself bad earth, classic failure that I have seen many times on trailers. And that would be my first point of investigation.
Brilliant. That was so Hubnut i.e. real life 😂
Saw a Perodua in Aberystwyth, parked by the pet shop. Not many about so assumed it must have been yours. It’s a lovely little thing, or that one is even if not yours.
That was Desmond! Not me though. I was elsewhere.
@@HubNut You mean you let Desmond out of your sight! 😱
Great to see Elly back in action again. Might be worth as a precaution checking fuses for corrosion as well because if Elly has some blade fuses the slightest bit of corrosion can cause issues.
If you ever were to roadtrip TWC, though, I'm here for it - safe, warm and comfy watching you from home on UA-cam :)
He has, but I think you'll probably have to go back to before the trip to Australia/NZ to find it.
Sort the rust yes but then make a heavy guage mini earth wire loom going forward to end up on the battery. Use solid crimps for most connections (these are more reliable than soldering) and solder the wires onto the metal surround for the lamps and anything else on the way. Scratching paint off to earth to the body always makes a potential rust spot and the problem returns. Done well this should be permanent. BTW use proper crimps and a crimper tool, say weather proof Deutsch DT connectors. They are weather proof, can be undone but are super high quality.
All the best to you and Elly on your road trip can't wait to see the resulting video
The side light dimming is more likely due to the battery voltage dropping as you're doing the tests without the engine running, flashers put a big load on the system. It might be a contributory factor if the lamps are not making a good earth within the holders, test by touching a good clean section of copper wire between the lamp (bulb) casing and the chassis earth, if the brightness improves that's a good clue. Once you've got everything cleaned up, dielectric grease is your friend.
That caliper outer (dust) boot was not fitted correctly in the first place, resulting in ingress of moisture and probably salt, causing the white (aluminium) corrosion you found, I don't think it's glue.
If you can't get new caliper pistons immediately, it might be worth trying to fill the pitting with thick super glue and then removing the excess. I've done this on several motorcycle fork tubes to get by and it does work for long enough until the job can be done properly. It's not ideal, nothing more than a temporary solution but I'm sure you will drive appropriately.
Some days are good, and some days you wonder why you bothered getting up, let's hope the days get better Mr HubNut.
When compressed air isn't available a grease gun can be used to push caliper pistons out. It's messy, obviously but very controlled way to get them out.
The light plate can be earthed by any of the mounting bolts. Put a spring washer on all of them and one is bound to earth,
With the engine not running the load of the indicators flashing will drop the battery voltage slightly when on, this shows up on other illuminated lights. Not an issue.
Hope the big adventure went ok.
"Thank you for sharing" :-)
Yay Betty! The most reliable barge in the garage! Almost.
Better call Peter Anderson.
Congrats on the MOT pass. My 2CV only managed 730 miles between the last two MOTs. I must use it more. Be thankful a 2CV only has a handful on greasing points. My 1932 Morris Minor has over 30 of the things. The wooden floor has to come out to get at the front grease points on the rear leaf springs. Having watched your video on Elly the 2CV, I'm now going to watch an 'Ellie Hikes' UA-cam video 😄
Time to change from reactive to proactive maintenance especially with old cars
New star washers and wire brush and sand paper. Add a light wipe of dielectric grease to finish
After it's all bolted up, as technically its an insulator. great when everything is clean and you have a solid conductive surface but when it's already a bit suspect I'm not so sure?
@ yes, that is true;dielectric grease’s primary advantage is for water proofing.
Great intro. Carnage from the off.
You have my heartfelt sympathy, good Sir. In ye olden days, when dinosaurs like me roamed the Earth one was taught (by old and wise men with long white beards) to add redundancy, i.e.. backups on backups to minimize the probability and impact of mission critical failures. I note that, alas, in the HubNut universe adding redundancy often seems to result in more chance of failure and more impact, somehow...
Well, that seemed very familiar... I remember changing the discs and pads on the S70 I had and though there was no sticking the seal had come off on one side in a similar manner. I left it alone and then solved the problem with my wallet, i.e. professionally refurbed original calipers at the dealer before the following winter when it was there for other work. I just couldn't be bothered and the existing ones very getting rusty in the wrong place, just at the lip where the seal is supposed to go...
The rear lights on the 2 CV looked like hat you usually see on cars with a towbar, but that's of course since it's more or less the same issue.
Bad earth. My prediction from 31 seconds in.
And that wiring looks SO much like my MGB.
Don't forget Big Red for your brake parts, they came up trumps for the Pajero
Well done on the MOT Pass Ian on Elly. Poor Betty, think she may be jealous that she is not the trusty stead for the Roadtrip.
As an electrician, I would have removed the covers and run a temporary earth to the metalwork. This would have shown whether it was an earth fault or not in a couple of minutes, without all that stripping down.
8:37 It looks like you can swap the lights units around looking at the panel mouldings.
It's corrosion around caliper that's sticking to seal , just clean up job and wet and dry brake pistons
I saw a W reg Matiz today. It was absolutely mint and only done 34k from new.
Congratulations for Ellie's MOT.👍👌
I had an EScort that had terrible earth problems a right lemon.
Glad Elly passed her MOT well done Elly. Poor Betty now with problems. Someone too me when you have 4 wheels you are always with troubles.
Ian you could run 2 earth wire connections from back of light units to earth inside the boot . I use Lana seal underneath mycar youcan spray it on rubber bushes ,suspension arms ,chassis this would keep Elly in good condition when she stored in damp environmental con dishions ,and also the rest of your fleet. and it works great .
We have Alphalan. We're slowly working our way around the fleet (Chemmy, Desmond and Betty done so far).
When I get replacement parts I always buy two sets of everything. I feel at the time it's a waste of money hut can't help myself but every now and again in situations like yours it works out.
I just need to work on remembering where I put things.
I have that problem too!
@@HubNut It's good practice but what happens is you can't find it, then you order again - and get two, obviously - and the day you fit the new thing you find the one you lost and now have two spare.
The process repeats itself in two years.
Ahh, you can always rely on Elle to come through with the great help of Tim. I think everyone could do with a 'Tim' from time to time to help us out with our car woes. A result in the end.
C'mon Elly! Maybe she needs a six week retreat in the sunshine - but who doesn't
does not look like you did much to actualy cure an earth problem. The rust on the lamp backplate is not a problem as its not providing a connection to eatrh. You need to clean up the threaded mount and then clean paint away on the part on the body where the nut and spar washer are so that the backplate has a clean earth to the body.
And wearing the right shirt for this job: Quality tinkering!
I would take that as a win. One vehicle with new MOT and one vehicle with future guaranteed channel content.
Short term leave the dust seal off of the AU piston, at least the car would be useable, okay its not desirable, I wouldnt recommend a track day but it does work.
Presumably that’s Elly’s last required MOT.
I think she'll need one next year too. I don't mind an MOT though.
I think, honestly it's time to have a daily driver that is relatively new and trouble free. One thing I've learned in the last 5 or so years, is having a boring toyota hybrid that literally never goes wrong is a godsend, no unexpected bills, kids get to school no issues and gives me much less stress and much more time for hobby's or tinkering. The issue is you're trying to daily drive projects and rely on them 😂
There's no good stories or HubNut dramatic scenarios to be had in that sort of logical sensibility. 😁 Soap opera* is an ingrained and extremely popular part of the British psyche.
(*Soap opera: A long-running serial, frequently characterized by melodrama, ensemble casts, and sentimentality.)
@Flaming-Hedgehog while I agree somewhat. It must be pretty a pretty stressful way of life when you're up in Wales without a paddle 😅 it would then mean more focus on all the projects that have been put on the back burner, TUC for instance.
I know for me I couldn't live with the day to day struggle of owning constantly breaking cars while trying to hold it all together 🤣
@@cardude5323 Yes it would stress me too but Ian has been playing the bangernomics game for so long I don't think too much fazes him anymore really. He always seems to get by and have one running (limping) when needed but I can see how it drives some viewers bonkers and yelling at the TV like watching football. Broken is big part of the HubNut modus operandi, viewers love the dramatic scenarios, the cast of cars have names with their own personal issues and people have sentimental attachment to the cast members and strong opinion on how they be treated. Thus the perfect soap opera script writes itself, I dont think Ian set out to create this theatre on purpose it's just morphed over time and he's rolling with it doing what he's always done, being HubNut.
The day Murphy is awake and lends a hand!
That's how I was once, 2 cars that didn't work, a motorcycle in parts after an accident and a bicycle with a flat tire, how do you get to work? The least broken car with an emergency repair helped up.
Murphy was an optimist.
I suspect you are going to The Netherlands, you are very welcome!
Sadly not this time. Can almost wave across the sea though!
Definitely an earthing problem - probably the right hand cluster. Ignore the comments about the engine not running - that has nothing to do with the observed problem.
Just before you need to travel Elly says "Oh that's right I'm French I almost forgot" and decides to be a French car before you need her time again.
Once had the same lighting issues in my T25. The earth crown was corroded. Easy fix.
Just to repeat others Ian, I think you should have the engine running for a true test.
Having 4 vehicles of which none work or are available is absolutely necessary for the everyday man..
Welcome… to my world….
For over 40 years, I've never had a rotor "explode" on a brake lathe. The worst I've experienced was rotors that were too thin after turning and they were iffy to start with. New pads deserve a straight, clean, surface to wear into. Shouldn't take more than 2 passes to clean up Betty's rotors.
If you can manage it, a road test of a Trojan would be much appreciated. We never got them over here and they fascinate me....
Sounds like a things went a bit Hubnut there! 😄 Interesting trainspotter fact that I didn't know about the 2CV was that the front brakes were in board a little like on the Alfasud by Alfa Romeo. I presume the cover over the grill is to keep the engine warm during winter. As regards Betty the Ford Fairmount I'd be astonished if the calipers from another vehicle ie Ford or otherwise didn't fit for whilst I know from previous videos some of it is Oz specfic ss you said yourself the calipers i don't think would be. Hopefully either on one if the owners forums or elsewhere in Google land you'll get an answer. Best of luck and hope you get things sorted.
Calipers are specific, however pistons and seals probably aren't.
Didn't know that, is there anyone in mainland GB that's breaking Australian cars or do you have to search the web and get it from Australia?
Just think, another what... 12 - 18 months? And Elly will be roadworthiness exemp- I mean MOT exempt!
Hmmm, didn't pull the bulbs first and and cleaned them and the sockets? Dielectric grease is your friend...
Also whould do that test with the engine running and charging system hopefully charging (or on battery tender). I live in swampy Georgia, have similar issues, but a bit less moisture.
My Ural's taillights are, hope you are sitting down, Lucas (TRW UK, officially) from the factory, so painfully aware of these issues... Good luck on your trip, if you get to go.
I remember having to add an extra earth to one rear light cluster on my E60 BMW due to this sort of issue, except in its case the indicator light was just dim. I believe on later E60s it was the subject of a recall - mine was too old to qualify, apparently.🤨 However, that hint of dimming you're seeing is most likely due to internal resistance of the battery, any switches and the wiring as well.
You can never have to much earth....so you don't have to rely on the earth connection through the mounting points I would drill a hole in the plate and attach a good earth wire which xould be attached to the body with another screw
What was the Name? Oh Yes.... " Ethelred The Unready" He Who failed to protect England from the Danes overrunning the Kingdom. Could be a poster Boy for Hubnut at times LOL
Haha! You painted yourself into a corner by putting two cars out of action. Don't worry Spring is just around the corner
Try brasso or even T-cut on the brake caliper pistons. I have had good results in the past.
TWC being the most dependable...
so glad this channel has the inspired name "HubNut" and not " the trials and tribulations of a disorganised hippy unwanted car fanatic."
anyway, shouldn't say too much, Fiesta MOT at the end of the month and my old body is refusing to work properly again and there's prep work to do before it goes in...
Original title " the trials and tribulations of a disorganised hippy unwanted car fanatic." was shortened to "HubNut" 😁
Elly passed her MOT excellent but Betty has a brake issue and l hope its an easy fix
Much jeopardy! But an enjoyable tinkering video nonetheless! Classic Hubnut!
"Hub-Nonsense?" "Hub-Hijinks?" "Hub-Foolery?" Situation normal! 🤪
My 205 is on its third set of CV boots in ten years. That's pretty poor considering they're never exposed to the sun.
CV boots likely made in China or Thailand for 5p. Eric O of South Main Auto rages about pathetic non-existent quality of service replacement parts.
I dunno, are Chinese tyres made of different first quality rubber than these "neoprene" replacements? Which seem to be made out of reconstituted moulded tofu according to a secret formula passed down through the centuries. I like ginger beef with broccoli myself, with Bismati rice for that certain je ne sais quoi.
"The world, she is going mad!" Rene Descartes, a well-known French philosopher.
Ian get your multi-meter, connect to Negative of battery, put other probe on Earth point of lamp, with meter on VDC, any voltage showing on meter is a drop. It should never be more than 0.30v.
I'd need very long leads!
Could you bodge an wire earth to bypass the rusty metal?
You could see the brake pistons were sticking, because if they weren't, the other piston would have been pushed out as you pushed the other one in.
Bon voyage in Elly. Well done on your MoT 😊
i would have just made up a dedicated ground cable from the lamp unit to the chassis.
Surely tahts just a tad bit of voltage drop, if the car was running I'm sure the lights would be OK?
Like your tinkering videos. Lucky you took that piston out of that caliper, with newer pads it would have pushed that corrosion in to the seal and it would have leaked.
I did once manage to fix a caliper piston with super glue by effectively filling up the pits and polishing it back. Not that you can do that on UA-cam...
No Ox Id A-Special is a great grease for those earth connections,just thought I would pass this knowledge on.
Good video I don’t know how you have so much patience, I was thinking of buying an old classic car and that’s as far as it’s got
Maybe stick at just one... That's probably my mistake!
@ thank you Ian will definitely stick to one and keep you posted
Does a man not have a dremil or finger sander for little tidying up of light units? I soldered a wire to the lamp unit and screwed it to the body as an earth 🤗
Nope! More toys needed.
Can never have too many tools is my motto. Unlike cars, you can be swamped with too many which will wear you down unless the wallet is flush 🙄 @HubNut
Thank goodness for the Denari
That white stuff holding your piston seal in looked like aluminium corrosion? Do the grease guns go flying of their own accord or are they Seabrook-assisted...?
Hmm, was that Ellie I saw today heading North on the M6 near Coventry or did I spot a twin... ❤
Likely us!