D&D 5e Optimizers show why Doors are Overpowered in Baldur's Gate 3!

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  • @PackTactics
    @PackTactics  Рік тому +7

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    • @AzureIV
      @AzureIV Рік тому

      Can you give us a low-down on your equipment and favored battle rotation for each character?

    • @Zoddlander
      @Zoddlander Рік тому

      I'm currently trying to get the achivement of taking all 12 classes on my character without ever using Withers!
      So far real fun! and I also picked "the dark urge" for it!
      I currently have 1lvl paladin(Vengence/Oathbreaker), 1level sorecer(draconic), 1lvl bard, 1lvl warlock(fiend) and 1lvl cleric(tempest)!
      Next will 1lvl wizard then druid! I'm realy going for the spellcasters first!
      starting with Str 8, Dex 16, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 16

  • @CalebGrizmode
    @CalebGrizmode Рік тому +50

    Doors are the most powerful thing in BG, but bringing the DM pizza will always be the most powerful thing in DND.

  • @DrgnDrake
    @DrgnDrake Рік тому +43

    Admittedly I don't think I'd actually enjoy playing this way myself, but it's rather entertaining to watch.

  • @final_catalyst
    @final_catalyst Рік тому +94

    I happy you are getting sponsors, but "peny auctions" are very bad and often predatory

    • @LadyTsunade777
      @LadyTsunade777 Рік тому +6

      Yea. Penny auctions _seem_ like a good deal at first glance, because none of them tell you that they all _charge per bid you place, even if you don't win the item._
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  • @KuaEtus
    @KuaEtus Рік тому +11

    I can't believe this. I just play that part, and i did the exact same thing with the doors.
    I cast spike growth in front of the door and then close it, it's really effective 🐊.

  • @IzzetNilson
    @IzzetNilson Рік тому +7

    Would love to see act 2 stuff. I was playing around in tactician mode with the darkness spell and then I was reminded very quickly that darkness is lethal in act 2 for reasons :x would love to see the groups take on it!

  • @acrothdragon
    @acrothdragon Рік тому +15

    Yeah my combo is cast minor illusion in a room get enemies to go investigate. Shut the door and cast arcane lock on it. Course if you don’t have that spell just drop a box in front of the door and the ai just can’t make it through.

  • @renatocorvaro6924
    @renatocorvaro6924 Рік тому +45

    The AI just doesn't understand doors sometimes and it's weird.

    • @NicholasRoch
      @NicholasRoch Рік тому +3

      They learnt the same lesson critical role learnt… that doors are a menace to society

  • @loki3275
    @loki3275 Рік тому +8

    doors used to be players #1 enemy, now theyre a great ally

  • @NotreDanish
    @NotreDanish Рік тому +7

    Arcane Lock is hilarious, I’ve cheesed a whole fight by locking down 1 of 2 paths towards my party using an Arcane Locked door, and the AI just keep trying to unlock the door until their turn ends lol

    • @BlueFoxXT
      @BlueFoxXT Рік тому +2

      i did that once and it was so funny, they click the door like 30 times in 5 seconds

  • @isaacgame7304
    @isaacgame7304 Рік тому +4

    wow, that ad took me back to the mid 2000s for commercials for other penny auction websites. I remember trying them and it always seemed so sketchy how no matter what you did, you always lost a bid. I've always been under the impression that a lot of the things for sell on those websites don't really "sell" anything and it just portrays things being sold to grab users into spending money to "allow" them to place a bid?

  • @bryophytamantodea7254
    @bryophytamantodea7254 Рік тому +1

    some very pro gamer moves going on here... very pog even

  • @supersmily5811
    @supersmily5811 Рік тому +1

    Doors would be even more powerful in BD3 if Held Actions existed.

  • @Alice-ji2wq
    @Alice-ji2wq Рік тому +9

    Sometimes chests in door's way are even more op. Seeing the cambions doing 0 damage to a chest in prologue makes me wonder why there is no armor made from chests. 😅

  • @ProfessorAragorn
    @ProfessorAragorn Рік тому +1

    I used Doors really well in the Creche. Trigger initiative. Shoot them and close the door with my gloomstalker. Rest of the team moves up. Other folks run up to the door. I open the door and fireball the cluster wiping them out.

  • @quincykunz3481
    @quincykunz3481 Рік тому +1

    Ah yes, fork the door demon, apprentice to the master door-fiend bing-bong.

  • @geoffreysherman609
    @geoffreysherman609 Рік тому +1

    Another fun video. Thank you!

  • @matthewbunting9890
    @matthewbunting9890 Рік тому +4

    Yup Door tactics are OP.. lol I feel sorry for the AI some times I swear.

  • @KingMJAH
    @KingMJAH Рік тому +5

    Wait I just realized, can the rangers spider pet use the web action outside of combat ? Because the Druid spider form can’t. Also this game has made me hate candles. So annoying when I have a web set up and it clips into a candle or something and just burns away

    • @anarcnamedjustin3451
      @anarcnamedjustin3451 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, ranger pet can, druid cannot, not sure why it's like that.

  • @melekthesmart4942
    @melekthesmart4942 Рік тому +1

    Love the gameplay!

  • @Zoddlander
    @Zoddlander Рік тому

    Closing the doors to make the enemy come to you accualy worked surpircingly well! Tryed it my self!
    will you post all your characters complete builds and if you have respeced and if so from what and when?

  • @andreanecchi5930
    @andreanecchi5930 Рік тому +2

    You should try the tactical view

  • @emilyhockers1086
    @emilyhockers1086 Рік тому +1

    counterspell ray of frost. optimal

  • @jc6226
    @jc6226 Рік тому +4

    today you are sponsored by what is arguably a scam bidding website. noice.

  • @TheAMGReviewers
    @TheAMGReviewers Рік тому +1

    Dear Door-ary, Kobold and friends made a mockery of BG3, again, it was wonderful. The End.

  • @Agamemnonoverhead
    @Agamemnonoverhead Рік тому

    I thought the world would end before Kobold would get sponsored by DealDash

  • @francisthesadcat1406
    @francisthesadcat1406 Рік тому +1

    i live for this

  • @TheNoMoreGamer
    @TheNoMoreGamer Рік тому +1

    My favorite combo in baldurs gate goes as follows:
    Spike growth, sleet storm, hunger of hadar, door

    • @PackTactics
      @PackTactics  Рік тому +1

      Does spike growth stack with Hunger of Hadar? We do use Sleet storm + Hadar later on.

    • @KingMJAH
      @KingMJAH Рік тому +1

      @@PackTacticsdid sleet storm get buffed ? I don’t think it stops actions in table top. and the fact that after concentration ends it leaves a water surface, that can be refrozen with a Cantrip or elemental arrow, seams really good.

    • @TheNoMoreGamer
      @TheNoMoreGamer Рік тому

      @@PackTactics Last I checked yes. Spike growth is a ground effect, hunger of hadar is a smoke/smog layer effect and sleet storm is a weather/top layer effect. It's the perfect cake!

  • @garrettord3304
    @garrettord3304 Рік тому +3

    Door cheese is a problem mostly because there's no "ready action" to shoot you when you open the door. Same goes with popping in and out of view. That will probably always be a thing in this game, but I hope that either the developers or modders will eventually fix it by adjusting the AI. EX: Instead of running toward the door, run away and call all of their allies in the camp to help fight the intruders. That way the player would either have to fight hugely outnumbered, or actively hunt down fleeing enemies instead of picking them off 1-by-1 from safety.

  • @AzureIV
    @AzureIV Рік тому

    Does anyone have the channel names of the others?
    I can't see their links in the description.

  • @seancohen339
    @seancohen339 Рік тому +1

    do you stream PT? I would love to watch your stream vods of this campaign vs just your 30 minute videos. I love these vids i just want more

  • @pasqualecirone9755
    @pasqualecirone9755 Рік тому

    I’ve tried putting crates to block off doors but the NPCs walked around/through them. I feel that it should work so I’ll try again. I’d just love to be able to walk off or bottleneck critters.

  • @RaethFennec
    @RaethFennec Рік тому

    I love seeing the crazy ways that people approach these fights because of the huge variety of tactics the game allows. My friend and I managed to split most of the creche up into groups of just 2-3 enemies. The big room was handled by an Evard's Black Tentacles, a Fireball, a LOT of failed saving throws. We just hid around the corner and focus-fired anyone who got loose and Dashed through. I don't think we had to heal or long rest even once through the entire creche. I might have to try using doors more now, though! I didn't think about keeping an invisible minion out of combat for opening/closing doors off-turn.

  • @kaykz885
    @kaykz885 Рік тому

    What are the other player's channels? (Found it, damn cool site)

  • @thisischriswright
    @thisischriswright Рік тому +1

    Do y'all ever stream? Would love to see those hijinks.

  • @jareddaniel3009
    @jareddaniel3009 Рік тому

    Lol this is the exact same way I did this fight.

  • @woutvanostaden1299
    @woutvanostaden1299 Рік тому

    A lot of monsters also can't jump over obstakels.

  • @dazlock4491
    @dazlock4491 Рік тому

    I accidentally learnt closing doors was an op strat early in my first playthrough 😅

  • @DSlyde
    @DSlyde Рік тому

    My one issue with these videos is i have trouble keeping track of who's who. I don't have the best hearing and relating names to voices to characters is hard.
    Having the names show up more visibly than the little top widget when they're talking would be a godsend but i also understand that its probably a ton of work that might not be worth it.

  • @amit-sg8rx
    @amit-sg8rx Рік тому +2

    Kobold, my friend and I play that the powerful build races can use the large weapons without disadvantage. Are we cheating??? Love you.

  • @amit-sg8rx
    @amit-sg8rx Рік тому

    Listen kobold, I know it’s not optimal to be in melee combat but can you build an optimal melee character? If there is such a thing… (on dnd not bg3 btw)

    • @amit-sg8rx
      @amit-sg8rx Рік тому

      @@agilemind6241 thanks man but why not go totem warriors? And like barbarian cancel the use of spells and I think haste and shield would help a lot in melee

    • @BahamutEx
      @BahamutEx Рік тому +1

      My karlach barb(pure barb) feels quite good, maybe I'll add 4lvl fighter next time.

    • @amit-sg8rx
      @amit-sg8rx Рік тому +1

      @@BahamutEx I’ve played fighter/barb it’s very fun

  • @RatelRegalement
    @RatelRegalement Рік тому +1

    A very modern creche. Practically has a revolving door installed :o
    Also would have thought you'd have grabbed the playable kobold mod :p

    • @almisami
      @almisami Рік тому +2

      mods and multiplayer... don't mesh well yet.

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger Рік тому +1

      @@almisamiThat, and as they’ve said numerous times, this was recorded over a month ago when the game had just came out.

  • @billwumsen4108
    @billwumsen4108 Рік тому +1

    that sponsor sounds really fishy!

  • @almisami
    @almisami Рік тому

    I *JUST* noticed Chauntea isn't available as a God choice...

  • @androgenius_alisa
    @androgenius_alisa Рік тому

    The solution I made for chokepoint holding in my game was that enemies would just set up a chokepoint on the other side.
    If they can, they will send smth like waves of undead to further drain the resources of the party
    I wonder if it's possible to make AI able to recognise a fortified position and switch into making one of their own(prob tens of hours of dev time just for the basic realisation tho)

  • @deadlykitten1158
    @deadlykitten1158 Рік тому

    AI on both enemy and friendly are very easy to exploit unfortunately, I’m enjoying the game nonetheless by avoiding cheese and purposely NOT playing busted builds and strats (essentially I’m trying to play RAI)

  • @vu4y3fo846y
    @vu4y3fo846y Рік тому

    It's funny seeing everyone rocking hand-crossbows. Larion should balance it with the loading property.

  • @scotttremblay45
    @scotttremblay45 Рік тому

    Anyone know what’s adding radiant damage to the ranger’s hand crossbow shots?

    • @therealkiller4390
      @therealkiller4390 Рік тому +3

      in the monastery there's a puzzle that gives you a condition until long rest that adds 1d4 radiant damage to your weapons

  • @margaretmyklebust2577
    @margaretmyklebust2577 Рік тому

    Algorithm bump

  • @CycloneSP
    @CycloneSP Рік тому +1

    "A creature takes 4d4 slashing damage when it enters the spell's area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there."
    cloud of daggers always did damage in cast, because of the text "on A turn" not "on IT'S turn" a creature does in fact 'enter' the area on the turn you cast it, therefore it does indeed take damage on cast. (pretty sure there's a sage advice about this, too)

    • @40Found
      @40Found Рік тому

      The only relevant Sage Advice is in regards to Moonbeam, which has the same wording. The Sage Advice says it does not work that way and doesn't do damage on cast.

  • @zeldiste5980
    @zeldiste5980 Рік тому +1

    Alright... I must repent... I did pick Glittergold for my trickery cleric. Even by being a kobold fan. I apologize.

  • @Arcticgreen
    @Arcticgreen Рік тому

    How do I play Baldur's Gate as a Kobold?

    • @BahamutEx
      @BahamutEx Рік тому

      They don't. But afaik there's a mod.

  • @daveyfunk
    @daveyfunk Рік тому

    If this was Bethesda everyone would have been absolutely on their backs

  • @epicazeroth
    @epicazeroth Рік тому

    "BG3 has the best DM ever" mfs when the AI finds out what doors are

  • @laroast8531
    @laroast8531 Рік тому +1

    The AI is so so bad, most surfaces they will refuse to move on at all and just stand there getting shot. The surfaces in the first place can be very annoying; blood ruining web, a bottle of water and it's water surface will override a darkness spell...

    • @CycloneSP
      @CycloneSP Рік тому

      I feel like this is less 'intentional' and more just a limitation of the game engine in general. I feel like it was probably too difficult to program the game having multiple overlapping surface effects, and thus chose to limit it to one to reduce issues and and general 'buggy-ness'

  • @lloydlineske2642
    @lloydlineske2642 Рік тому

    I'm sorry but I don't watch BG3 content. If it's big on your channel then that's cool. But just wanted to let you know that there is no interest over here.

    • @PackTactics
      @PackTactics  Рік тому

      I just covered One D&D.

    • @lloydlineske2642
      @lloydlineske2642 Рік тому +1

      @@PackTactics I've been watching you for quite awhile now. I'm surprised you don't recognize my name yet. I'm just letting you know that I have zero interest in BG3. Do it if you want or it gets views. I'm just being vocal about why I come to your channel. You and Colby, and the Dungeon Dudes are my three favorites. I'm not going to stop watching your channel because of BG3 content. But I'm not interested in it at all is what I'm saying.