Break really needed more flexibility for team comps, running the same superbreak core for everything works but isn't very fun. The FUA squad has so many swappable parts depending on availability (Ratio, Feixiao, Topaz, Moze, March, Aventurine, Lingsha), that's part of why it's so fun and versatile
Don't fall for it. She is not as good as made to be sound here. Hoyo will force you to stop using superbreak because they want you to pull for the new characters. Some future bosses already will be break resistant. Endgame modes for sure will get no buffs for breaks. And Fugue is a slight downgrade in Firefly teams, tiny upgrade in Rappa teams. And doesn't worth it in Acheron E0 teams at all. Especially as Anaxa will be an out of turn attacker nihility unit coming in 3.2. which is much more useful in E0 Acheron teams (especially without Jiaoqiu). AND Castorice is a Nihility summoner DPS who will likely power creep Acheron (😢) anyways. Then, remembrance MC will not be a support but a DPS. So they will not be best in slot (Robin, Tingyun or Asta will all be better) in summon teams --> no need to change HMC to RMC. So Fugue really has no actual place or worth in any team. She is a luxury pull for those who want her as a wifu or love her character (I itch to get her for that dress but ...). Don't pull for her. Sunday is needed for summon teams (clearly no summon Robin at sight so he is indeed the best support). The Herta will be an erudition Acheron. Likely strong as hell (with Jade on her side, for sure). Maybe Jade reruns with her and that woman is a must have character. Aglaea in my opinion will be skippable (as the other summon DPSs will be more powerful) but will still have much more worth in 3.x than Fugue. In 3.1 we will get Tribbie, a harmony unit who will be a position-based team buffer (similar to RuanMei). And Mydei, who will be an imaginary destruction DPS. Tribbie likely will be an amazing pull, useful in many teams. Then, we will get Anaxa and Castorice in 3.2 Really, pulling for fugue is a waste of jades.
@ashy969 holyyy essaying... i just thought acheron break seems super fun esp with lingsha being able to apply debuffs thru basic/skill, giving more stacks, more acheron ult. won't be pulling for fugue tho since i do have my eyes on mydei/castorice/phainon and i'm yet to get lingsha and ruan mei still (i really want them no matter what T-T). ty for tips tho :) btw, i believe castorice is a quantum remembrance unit. can't wait for 3.x AAAA
same I always wanted himeko to be a good character ever since I started playing but was kinda disappointed that she was just usable for pure fiction then I heard people talking about her again in correlation with super break and was instantly starting to build her sadly I didn't win my 50/50 on ruan mei rerun so that plan fell flat and I tried to dual dps her with firefly who basicly acted an enabler for himekos follow ups team works okay but the damage wasn't quite there so when I heard fugue has elements from both hmc and ruan mei I instantly had my eyes on her for the firefly himeko comp hope that I can get her e1 without needing to spend money
for me personally, i think asta is better than serval in the "new player team" as asta just breaks enemies so damn quickly and you can even run it with preservation tb for more break and a bit of sustain (if fire weak, if not htb is just better in other scenarios)
Don't worry, by the end of 3.x she'll have fallen off and everyone will be writing think pieces about how power creep is out of control because Ruan Mei no longer sees play. You'll be sick of seeing Sunday everywhere by then, but you'll only have to wait till the end of 4.x for the same to have happened to him.
Don't worry bro, You can try to get her on next rerun And don't think about powercrept etc. As long as you like the characters and their animation just pull them
It's interesting to see how Fugue enables double break teams, because I was using Rappa + Boothil and HMC for quite a while and it works incredibly. And ofc I am pulling for her.
Lol no. Acheron E2+ works much better with Sparkle, Robin or Sunday, even, than another Nihility. And Fugue would not be the best choice second Nihility anyways.
Man, am I glad that I didn't listen to all the sour grapes and doomposters telling me how useless and bad Rappa is. My favorite delusional Ninja girl eating good! :D
After Exo-toughness MoC ended I am yet to use Rappa at all, without Ruan Mei, Gallagher or Lingsha she is very rough to use, perhaps if I built her as crit dps it might work fairly okay with Sunday.
@@IgnasV She might not benefit from Sunday's crit buff but the ER recharge and AA works super well, actually. And she can slot in as an erudition character for TheHerta (yes, yes, not the best option, but is a good option, still). Def more flexible than Firefly, who will be completely useless in 3.x... Rappa is not a bad unit, in fact, is on par with Firefly with damage and clearance rates in endgames. But... She came out at a horrible time. All characters after her are more useful or wanted and her team type was at the end of its time, already. Would have came out earlier, her sales and popularity would have been much much much higher...
That's an exaggeration, people were just comparing her to Firefly who was extremely strong and who most people owned because of how popular she was in the story. Saying she's weaker than Firefly (or even just on par with Firefly) and not worth pulling for the people who own her doesn't make her not an extremely strong option for all the people who *don't* own Firefly and don't want her, she's still a Super Break DPS and those are really strong in general. And in some scenarios Rappa seems to be stronger than Firefly.
@blkk92 yes, super break stacks, so having more than one source of super break is a pretty big damage increase. In the "main" super break team you have 3 sources of it, 1 from fuge, 1 from hmc, and one from firefly traces
Yes, but as a new player you would do better off pulling for Sunday (and his light cone). As he will be the BiS support for summoners and is an awesome support unit in any team (3rd best support in game). E.g. in Rappa team, his energy recharge and action advance buffs are more valuable than Fugue's buffs and implant... Even as a HMC replacement, Fugue is a minor upgrade for Rappa and downgrade for the other 2 DPS. Unless you get her E2 but that would be really foolish. Also, Superbreak will be pushed out of meta for sure. Some upcoming bosses will already be break resistant. And no superbreak team buffs are likely in future endgame cycles (since Hoyo will want you to use the new characters and will buff accordingly). I don't believe in chasing the meta in general, but in HSR, clearing endgame with suboptimal teams is near impossible in certain modes (like AS and MoC). As a new player, you likely have no fully built superbreak teams, anyways. And so, if you build a team, it would be more logical to build into the new meta. Especially in a brutally power-creep-prone game like HSR is (these days). For fast-access team option: TheHerta will need erudition teammates to shine. So you could pull for her in 3.0 and use her with miniHerta and Himeko/Rappa/Jade. Best option being Jade, if she reruns with TheHerta. Jade in general is one of the best and most versatile characters... Or even Serval and the other 4star erudition units can work with TheHerta. You could use TheHerta, + 2 erudition DPS + sustain. Or 1 erudition + harmony. So, easy to build, competitive team option right there (as she is an emenator and one of the most important characters in lore). And you need to pull only one 5star. You can also pull for JingYuan or Aglaea (they seem to be at the same power level according to beta, so I wouldn't sweat much over pulling for JingYuan, but maybe skipping him and getting The Herta is better). Their best teams would be Sunday + flex + sustain. Best sustain being HuoHuo, but others work, too. Flex could be Robin, Tingyun or even Asta. In 3.1 we will get Mydei, who will be a destruction DPS and Tribbie, who will likely be a good harmony unit (similar to RuanMei). Then, we will get Castorice and Anaxa (former being likely one of the best DPS units in 3.x). Later likely being (an ice aligned nihility support and) a good teammate for Acheron E0 teams, as well as for Castorice. So... I would strongly advise against pulling for Fugue, as she is not economical. But of course, if you want her for wifu reasons, go for it. (EODGamer is insightful and helpful when it comes to alternative team building but he often oversells the characters mentioned - hype makes people click and all).
Of course. The great thing abt Fugue is you can slap her skill into your DPS of ur choice and he/she will reduce toughness regardless of element (although halved if it's not the same type as your DPS). However Fugue being naturally a fire character means that your team comp will be more powerful if the boss and mobs have fire weakness
Yes but I would suggest to pull for Sunday, skip phase 2 and pull for The Herta instead. Sunday will be a good over-all support in most teams and a BiS in summoner teams. While The Herta will be a very good option in 3.x if you have Himeko and miniHerta on her side. The Herta works similarly to Acheron. She collects stacks for each attach an erudition teammate makes and then removes those stacks from the enemies with her ultimate. She also buffs with erudition characters on team. This means, that while one erudition character might be better than others (Jade being best teammate), any erudition team will create a good team with her (himeko,.miniHerta, Serval...). Add a sustain and done. Some enemies will be break resistant in 3.x so I would not invest into Superbreak anymore. Fugue is meant to sell now because many people are in love with Tingyun and would want Fugue as a wifu. Hence the pretty design and the end-of-version release... But she is sadly not best in slot for any team and is far from being future proof. She is a bait, don't fall for it
I got Sunday and his lc and am going to summon for remembrance meta so should I invest in firefly, Ruan mei, Gallagher, hmc super break team all of the 5 star are e0 and s0, the other character I have are dot premium team Kafka and bs along with huo huo and I have fu Xuan and ratio
Ratio works with Sunday for now. HuoHuo will be one of the best (if not best) sustains for summoners because they're energy hungry. Superbreak is about to go down the drain so I would not invest into it (some enemies are already announced to be resistant to it and endgames will stop favouring that team composition). Some already support summon instead... I mean, If you have a complete Firefly-HMC-RuanMei-Gallagher team, cool. But if you would pull for Firefly now... Don't... Boothill and Rappa might get some use later but Firefly is actually not future proof at all. And she has like 0 team flexibility. Fugue is a downgrade for her, too. DoT and Kafka/BS will not have a revive in this upcoming version, but I mean... They are usable teams, still. I would pull for TheHerta as she is a quick-build and prob 3.x friendly option. She just needs other erudition teammates (and any could work). And I would use Sunday, Ratio and RMC with HuoHuo as my other team. Then pull for a later summon main in place of Ratio (and maybe Tribbie if she is a good support).
@@FrozenFrost6866 himeko doesn't need ult, rappa doesn't consume sp and if I'm not mistaken fugue is sp positive. Just basic with himeko and even without e1 firefly the sp economy should be totally manageable, especially since this obviously won't be aiming for long runs with no sustainer so losing skill points over time is no big issue.
I can see the idea since Jingliu gets action advance with her stacks of syzergy and her ult can extend the state (tho in this case it’s less ideal since you want more turns and to leave the state more for super break, unless it’s a crit break hybrid Jingliu), luocha for the hp drain and sp positivity, Ruan Mei being all that Ruan Mei is for both break and every other buff she gives, and fugue to make Jingliu colorless so no need for sw to implant ice. I do agree it’s a lil “cope” but as a meme team it’s a funny idea so why not lmao
Ironicly, the HyperHybrid Lingsha with Fugue Sunday could be very fun, with Crit and Break, like almost Hybrid Boothill. The idea is running the fastest Fugue as you can buff Lingsha, Speedtuning Lingsha for Sunday, and literally Bunny AoE. Also if your caracters are very Squishy, this proc more summons and lingsha CD from emergency bunny go back with Sunday xD
@@ViciousKell Sadly, the only "main" break characters I have is Himeko (not yet fully built), and for supports that can help in break teams are E1 Gallagher and E0S0 Ruan Mei
I'd skip Firefly and Fugue and go for TheHerta instead. Himeko and miniHerta could be her teammates and then you pulled for 1 5star, not 2. Especially as some enemies for sure will be break resistant in 3.x (hoolay e.g. I'd leaked to be so). Firefly's shelf life looks the worst out of all break DPSs... And Sunday will be more useful sustain unit then Fugue. He can be a general sustain in most teams and also is best in slot in summon oriented teams. While Fugue is a subpar substitute for HMC I. Firefly team (unless you get her E1). Barely better with Rappa and Acheron E0. Useless doe Acheron E2. And even in Acheron E0 Fugue will be likely outperformed by Anaxa (who will have out of turn action). Of course, if you want Fugue because she is pretty (that dress for real ❤) or because she is your favorite character... Go for it, get her. But she is not very useful... Remembrance MC will be a sub DPS / DPS unit who is not best in slot anywhere. So no use switching HMC out either... Having Sunday + Robin / Tingyun / Asta works better in beta Aglaea teams, at least. (EODGamer hyped her up here but Fugue is not best in slot anywhere).
Hmmm I wonder how well Fugue work with Argenti? Because husbando has aoe skill + his ult hits twice when fully charged. Maybe add in Tingyun for energy regen & Adventurine to gain immortality?
If you are F2P just don't skip Fugue, you will regret it. she is a SP regainer who's enhanced basic attack does AOE. and her ultimate is still fast to charge. We aren't talking about the bonus superbreak and debuffs/buffs. E0. but I bet half the people going to skip, just like with Lingsha regret it and later on moan when she doesn't get a RERUN. (cause between Sunday Herta and Algaea most people will skip her).
i have an e2s1 ach w/ jiaoqiu sunday/robin (depending on availability) and an aventurine e2s1. is it worth it to run a dual nihility with fugue and jiao or sub jiao with fugue? or not get fugue at all and just save my jades. enlighten me pls
Himeko and Gallagher are ideal picks since fugue will help with Himeko’s stacks increase with both the exo toughness and the colorless break enabling. Fast Gallagher with qpq gives a ton of energy and sp plus the toughness bar he does is huge overall so fugue with them would be amazing
I hope there is another Superbreak sustain. I like my current comp but here is hoping. Fugue will let me run a Rappa/Bronya/HMC/HuoHuo and Himeko/Fugue/Ruan Mei/Gallaghar as my Superbreak teams. Using E2 Bronya and Rappa together is surprisingly fun.
If I can get Fugue, I will have 2 superbreak team, mono fire and rainbow superbreak team. Mono fire with FF, Himeko, Fugue, and Gallagher. Rainbow with Rappa, Ruan Mei, HMC, and Lingsha.
I'm very certain that Gallagher or any other healer will fill the sustain slot for future break teams because in 3.0 Lingsha will be a fire erudition unit😂
Most people have no idea about game mechanic, if a character who has NO SKILL ... (well her skill is a buffing somebody for 3 turn to do more damage) and regains in those 3 turns 3 SP and 1 is going to be used for redoing that skill, 2 SP positive, her passives are debuff 3 enemy defense or shred it for no SP cost. give Super Break passive for no SP cost. people still do not understand a character. I just don't have words. she enables Bronya, Sunday, Himeko, Welt any other SP costing characters to spam their SKILL like the Main DPSER. means you up your damage tremendously. but heck we are talking to HSR community who don't understand much other then where is the guide.
Skipping her due to losing the 50/50 on Sunday. Genuinely speaking, Amphoreus is the make it or break it moment for me with HSR. I just can't keep up with the insane amount of power creep in the endgame modes, and the story of Xian Zhou and Penacony REALLY dragged on more than it should have. If Amphoreus doesn't knock it out of the ballpark, might genuinely ditch this game which is such a shame as there isn't really a lot of high quality turn based gacha.
Either works depending on who else you have built/will run on the same comp. Given that watchmaker doesn’t stack unfortunately when others ult and use it, I’d say Calvary is better in general use since fugue will be hitting more with both her eba and ults while someone like hmc (if played on the same team since super break stacks) or Ruan Mei on watchmaker, hope this helps!
I'm a returning player who doesn't know much about builds. Can I run him with HMC for a firefly team? As a replacement for Ruan mei since I don't have her? (Team will be: firefly, Fugue, HMC, Gallagher) (my Other good supports : E6 Pela, E3 Tingyun )
If you don't have his light cone, maybe. But for her, I would wait to get Anaxa instead. As he is said to have action out of turn and will prob work well with Castorice, too. We can smoke copium and try to make scenarios where Fugue is good but realistically she is a luxury item. Can have if you can afford it and won't be totally useless, but is far from needed or BiS
My based fugue team is Super Break Physical Trailblazer. Is it meta breaking? No. Are there better options? Yes. However, rules are meant to be broken.
Her colorless reduction is only at 50% wbe of their base toughness reduction, right? So, if I have RM or Fugue E1 does that negate it and make it 100% wbe or not?
The short answer is no. The long answer is as below: Total toughness damage=base toughness damage*break efficiency. Take Serval for example, she does 20 toughness damage (main target) with her skill when breaking in element. With RM or E1 Fugue, she gets 50% efficiency increase and therefore now does 20*(1+50%)=30 toughness damage in element. However when breaking off element, Serval's base toughness damage becomes halved: 20/2=10. With E1 Fugue only or E0 Fugue plus RM, her skill now does (20/2)*(1+50%)=15 toughness damage off element. It takes both RM and E1 Fugue at 100% increased efficiency to negate it: (20/2)*(1+100%)=20 toughness damage off element.
I found this a lil funny since my sister just started HSR and got Clara so when she got fed up with March after experiencing Geppie on a now ded account, I recommended Lynx since she’ll get e1 with PF and is a great choice for her atm. I doubt she’ll get a limited sustain soon but even if she did, given the other options she had I do think this was the best option for her currently
@@Gottaloveaxolotls Perhaps Lynx is better than Natasha, I don't know, but Lynx healing is really not good. Bailu and Gallagher (obviously) do it better. She should probably pull on Fugue just to get Gallagher. For MoC12 using Lynx is a torture, I usually am better off running no sustain.
she can but put her buff to a character who can't debuff. If you have adventurine, put her buff on him so adventurines attacks can put debuff on enemies
Yeaaah... One issue: it seems, they'll try to force stop the use of superbreak. For sure we know that some enemies will be break resistant in 3.x. and none of the future characters will be related to superbreak in any way... RMC won't be a must use in summon teams, either, so no need ro switch them out from superbreak teams. And for Acheron E0 teams... Anaxa will be an ice aligned nihility unit with out of turn action (and as a Nihility unit, likely will debuff). Sooo... Fugue will not be that good in those teams, either.... As for Rappa... Actually, she might remain a viable option in The Herta teams, as she is a fast and often attacker erudition unit. Jade for sure is the BiS teammate there, but as the Herta will welcome more erudition on team (like Acheron with nihility), Rappa could be an option besides mini Herta and Himeko. I love Fugue'd design and all, but she is a bait. One of the most skippable units with Sunday, The Herta and the rest coming. One rerun likely being Jade... Or Ruan Mei... Even if you want her as a wifu, I would skip Fugue for now.
Everyone thinking of making the usual superbreak team.. And then there's me.. Welt Sustainless with Sunday, Ruan Mei, Fugue Or slow Welt, replacing sunday with Gepard Welt slow, imprison, and img break imprison Ruan mei delay recovery with ult.. Fugue delay enemies more after break.. Sunday just basically give more turn for welt.. Gepard freeze and slow (e2)
I think break will fall out of meta plus i dont have a single break dps. I am still trying to pull Sunday i am almost at pity. If i dont manage to get him i will pull Firefly.
Worst character created 😂😂 only in break team, nowhere else. You guys can say Jiaoqiu is only for Acheron team, he can play on yunli, ratio team as well. While look at this fugue, nerfed hard on last version, only play good on team break, nothing else
Shame, you sound like the doomposters for Yunli and Jiaoqiu even boothill and the crazy thing is what you’re saying is word for word what people said about Jiaoqiu during his beta phase saying he got nerfed and is unplayable and look at him now. Same with all the other doomposted characters that were “bad” what a ridiculous narrative.
Break really needed more flexibility for team comps, running the same superbreak core for everything works but isn't very fun. The FUA squad has so many swappable parts depending on availability (Ratio, Feixiao, Topaz, Moze, March, Aventurine, Lingsha), that's part of why it's so fun and versatile
Right on bat..
Hopefully a DOT Break unit comes to life, so that a different kind of fun may Arise.. Hahaha
here before “n” gets changed 😅
N sigma male
+1
Yep
Lol
Same
oh shiii, you're making me wanna pull for fugue with that break-a-ron team
Don't fall for it. She is not as good as made to be sound here. Hoyo will force you to stop using superbreak because they want you to pull for the new characters. Some future bosses already will be break resistant. Endgame modes for sure will get no buffs for breaks. And Fugue is a slight downgrade in Firefly teams, tiny upgrade in Rappa teams. And doesn't worth it in Acheron E0 teams at all. Especially as Anaxa will be an out of turn attacker nihility unit coming in 3.2. which is much more useful in E0 Acheron teams (especially without Jiaoqiu).
AND Castorice is a Nihility summoner DPS who will likely power creep Acheron (😢) anyways.
Then, remembrance MC will not be a support but a DPS. So they will not be best in slot (Robin, Tingyun or Asta will all be better) in summon teams --> no need to change HMC to RMC.
So Fugue really has no actual place or worth in any team. She is a luxury pull for those who want her as a wifu or love her character (I itch to get her for that dress but ...).
Don't pull for her.
Sunday is needed for summon teams (clearly no summon Robin at sight so he is indeed the best support).
The Herta will be an erudition Acheron. Likely strong as hell (with Jade on her side, for sure). Maybe Jade reruns with her and that woman is a must have character.
Aglaea in my opinion will be skippable (as the other summon DPSs will be more powerful) but will still have much more worth in 3.x than Fugue.
In 3.1 we will get Tribbie, a harmony unit who will be a position-based team buffer (similar to RuanMei).
And Mydei, who will be an imaginary destruction DPS.
Tribbie likely will be an amazing pull, useful in many teams.
Then, we will get Anaxa and Castorice in 3.2
Really, pulling for fugue is a waste of jades.
@ashy969 holyyy essaying... i just thought acheron break seems super fun esp with lingsha being able to apply debuffs thru basic/skill, giving more stacks, more acheron ult. won't be pulling for fugue tho since i do have my eyes on mydei/castorice/phainon and i'm yet to get lingsha and ruan mei still (i really want them no matter what T-T). ty for tips tho :)
btw, i believe castorice is a quantum remembrance unit. can't wait for 3.x AAAA
@@ashy969 Thanks for the yap session, this actually makes me rethink pulling fugue mate
I've been running Rappa-HMC-Jiaoqiu/Himeko-Lingsha for a while and it's working wonders
Yup, am tinkering around with the idea of dual DPS just with Fugue enabling superbreak. I hope she won't disappoint.
same
I always wanted himeko to be a good character ever since I started playing but was kinda disappointed that she was just usable for pure fiction
then I heard people talking about her again in correlation with super break and was instantly starting to build her
sadly I didn't win my 50/50 on ruan mei rerun so that plan fell flat and I tried to dual dps her with firefly who basicly acted an enabler for himekos follow ups
team works okay but the damage wasn't quite there so when I heard fugue has elements from both hmc and ruan mei I instantly had my eyes on her for the firefly himeko comp
hope that I can get her e1 without needing to spend money
I wanna Fugue for My Lingsha DPS + Sunday and Jade 😎
Finally i can get rid of Asta. You had a good run girl
for me personally, i think asta is better than serval in the "new player team" as asta just breaks enemies so damn quickly and you can even run it with preservation tb for more break and a bit of sustain (if fire weak, if not htb is just better in other scenarios)
As much as i like Run Mei, i kind of sick not having her and see her in almost every team as top pick -.-
Don't worry, by the end of 3.x she'll have fallen off and everyone will be writing think pieces about how power creep is out of control because Ruan Mei no longer sees play. You'll be sick of seeing Sunday everywhere by then, but you'll only have to wait till the end of 4.x for the same to have happened to him.
me but with Robin
So do y’all want powercreep or not?
me with robin
Don't worry bro,
You can try to get her on next rerun
And don't think about powercrept etc.
As long as you like the characters and their animation just pull them
It's interesting to see how Fugue enables double break teams, because I was using Rappa + Boothil and HMC for quite a while and it works incredibly.
And ofc I am pulling for her.
I want Fugue but am only gonna pull 30-40 with no pity buildup cuz Im saving at least 200 pulls for Herta. Wish me luck (and good luck to you too)
Good Luck hope you get her early
Good luck hope you get her early
Is it worth it to run a second Nehility charecter besides Fugue over something like Sparkle when you have E2S1 Acheron?
Honestly, why would you? The reason for getting E2 Acheron in the first place is for more flexibility ( not running 2 nihilities).
just stick to sparkle, acheron, a healer and another nihility character
This was my question as well but I have E6S1 Acheron
Lol no. Acheron E2+ works much better with Sparkle, Robin or Sunday, even, than another Nihility. And Fugue would not be the best choice second Nihility anyways.
Man, am I glad that I didn't listen to all the sour grapes and doomposters telling me how useless and bad Rappa is.
My favorite delusional Ninja girl eating good! :D
After Exo-toughness MoC ended I am yet to use Rappa at all, without Ruan Mei, Gallagher or Lingsha she is very rough to use, perhaps if I built her as crit dps it might work fairly okay with Sunday.
rappa is still skippa, dw
@@IgnasVlast moc and apocalyptic shadow were built for her no?
@@IgnasV She might not benefit from Sunday's crit buff but the ER recharge and AA works super well, actually. And she can slot in as an erudition character for TheHerta (yes, yes, not the best option, but is a good option, still). Def more flexible than Firefly, who will be completely useless in 3.x...
Rappa is not a bad unit, in fact, is on par with Firefly with damage and clearance rates in endgames. But... She came out at a horrible time. All characters after her are more useful or wanted and her team type was at the end of its time, already.
Would have came out earlier, her sales and popularity would have been much much much higher...
That's an exaggeration, people were just comparing her to Firefly who was extremely strong and who most people owned because of how popular she was in the story. Saying she's weaker than Firefly (or even just on par with Firefly) and not worth pulling for the people who own her doesn't make her not an extremely strong option for all the people who *don't* own Firefly and don't want her, she's still a Super Break DPS and those are really strong in general. And in some scenarios Rappa seems to be stronger than Firefly.
I ran Fugue, Acheron E0S1, Jiao E0S1, Aven during the 2.7 story with the Fugue Trial. Yeah, it cooks hard. Breakaron teams are a go!
You answered an important question for me, As a new player I wanted to know if I can run fugue and HMC together
So can you run both together? I'm new and F2P, do not have RM.
@blkk92 yes, super break stacks, so having more than one source of super break is a pretty big damage increase.
In the "main" super break team you have 3 sources of it, 1 from fuge, 1 from hmc, and one from firefly traces
@blkk92 Yes you can double down on it
@@darkwolf9637 Does Hikeko, HMC, Fugue, Gallagher work? Or should I use Fugue with E1S1 Archeron, Pela, Aven?
Yes, but as a new player you would do better off pulling for Sunday (and his light cone). As he will be the BiS support for summoners and is an awesome support unit in any team (3rd best support in game). E.g. in Rappa team, his energy recharge and action advance buffs are more valuable than Fugue's buffs and implant... Even as a HMC replacement, Fugue is a minor upgrade for Rappa and downgrade for the other 2 DPS. Unless you get her E2 but that would be really foolish.
Also, Superbreak will be pushed out of meta for sure. Some upcoming bosses will already be break resistant. And no superbreak team buffs are likely in future endgame cycles (since Hoyo will want you to use the new characters and will buff accordingly). I don't believe in chasing the meta in general, but in HSR, clearing endgame with suboptimal teams is near impossible in certain modes (like AS and MoC).
As a new player, you likely have no fully built superbreak teams, anyways. And so, if you build a team, it would be more logical to build into the new meta. Especially in a brutally power-creep-prone game like HSR is (these days).
For fast-access team option: TheHerta will need erudition teammates to shine. So you could pull for her in 3.0 and use her with miniHerta and Himeko/Rappa/Jade. Best option being Jade, if she reruns with TheHerta. Jade in general is one of the best and most versatile characters... Or even Serval and the other 4star erudition units can work with TheHerta. You could use TheHerta, + 2 erudition DPS + sustain. Or 1 erudition + harmony. So, easy to build, competitive team option right there (as she is an emenator and one of the most important characters in lore). And you need to pull only one 5star.
You can also pull for JingYuan or Aglaea (they seem to be at the same power level according to beta, so I wouldn't sweat much over pulling for JingYuan, but maybe skipping him and getting The Herta is better). Their best teams would be Sunday + flex + sustain. Best sustain being HuoHuo, but others work, too. Flex could be Robin, Tingyun or even Asta.
In 3.1 we will get Mydei, who will be a destruction DPS and Tribbie, who will likely be a good harmony unit (similar to RuanMei).
Then, we will get Castorice and Anaxa (former being likely one of the best DPS units in 3.x). Later likely being (an ice aligned nihility support and) a good teammate for Acheron E0 teams, as well as for Castorice.
So...
I would strongly advise against pulling for Fugue, as she is not economical. But of course, if you want her for wifu reasons, go for it.
(EODGamer is insightful and helpful when it comes to alternative team building but he often oversells the characters mentioned - hype makes people click and all).
I was there when it's Fugue n Honkai
I love the typo in the video title 😂
That is why Ruan Mei is just another level Harmony Unit.. She will not run dry on my opinion.. 😅😅
I want to try that FF with Rappa together. But, you need FF E1 for comfy, she really SP negative at E0
I keep callimg her Fugu like how Louis Jourdan's character says it in a Columbo episode
Can I run Himeko HMC Fugue Gallagher? New player.
Of course. The great thing abt Fugue is you can slap her skill into your DPS of ur choice and he/she will reduce toughness regardless of element (although halved if it's not the same type as your DPS). However Fugue being naturally a fire character means that your team comp will be more powerful if the boss and mobs have fire weakness
Yup Himeko is one of the units that benefits the most from Fugue and Superbreak from HMC and Fugue stacks.
Yes but I would suggest to pull for Sunday, skip phase 2 and pull for The Herta instead. Sunday will be a good over-all support in most teams and a BiS in summoner teams.
While The Herta will be a very good option in 3.x if you have Himeko and miniHerta on her side. The Herta works similarly to Acheron. She collects stacks for each attach an erudition teammate makes and then removes those stacks from the enemies with her ultimate. She also buffs with erudition characters on team. This means, that while one erudition character might be better than others (Jade being best teammate), any erudition team will create a good team with her (himeko,.miniHerta, Serval...). Add a sustain and done.
Some enemies will be break resistant in 3.x so I would not invest into Superbreak anymore.
Fugue is meant to sell now because many people are in love with Tingyun and would want Fugue as a wifu. Hence the pretty design and the end-of-version release... But she is sadly not best in slot for any team and is far from being future proof.
She is a bait, don't fall for it
@@ashy969 chill
it's great
I got Sunday and his lc and am going to summon for remembrance meta so should I invest in firefly, Ruan mei, Gallagher, hmc super break team all of the 5 star are e0 and s0, the other character I have are dot premium team Kafka and bs along with huo huo and I have fu Xuan and ratio
Ratio works with Sunday for now. HuoHuo will be one of the best (if not best) sustains for summoners because they're energy hungry.
Superbreak is about to go down the drain so I would not invest into it (some enemies are already announced to be resistant to it and endgames will stop favouring that team composition). Some already support summon instead...
I mean, If you have a complete Firefly-HMC-RuanMei-Gallagher team, cool. But if you would pull for Firefly now... Don't... Boothill and Rappa might get some use later but Firefly is actually not future proof at all. And she has like 0 team flexibility. Fugue is a downgrade for her, too.
DoT and Kafka/BS will not have a revive in this upcoming version, but I mean... They are usable teams, still.
I would pull for TheHerta as she is a quick-build and prob 3.x friendly option. She just needs other erudition teammates (and any could work). And I would use Sunday, Ratio and RMC with HuoHuo as my other team. Then pull for a later summon main in place of Ratio (and maybe Tribbie if she is a good support).
@ashy969 yeah I also have robin i forgot to mention her
Himeko+Rappa+Firefly+Fugue. Triple dps. Like i did in the old days. I Player Seele Dil and ICE Moon Destruction in one Team.
ummm.... how are you sp on those teams?
@@FrozenFrost6866you need at least FF E1 for comfy.
@@FrozenFrost6866No SP, I guess he just basic att with everyone 😂
@@FrozenFrost6866 himeko doesn't need ult, rappa doesn't consume sp and if I'm not mistaken fugue is sp positive.
Just basic with himeko and even without e1 firefly the sp economy should be totally manageable, especially since this obviously won't be aiming for long runs with no sustainer so losing skill points over time is no big issue.
This is me coping, but what about a team like, Jingliu+Loucha+Fugue+Ruan Mei?
I can see the idea since Jingliu gets action advance with her stacks of syzergy and her ult can extend the state (tho in this case it’s less ideal since you want more turns and to leave the state more for super break, unless it’s a crit break hybrid Jingliu), luocha for the hp drain and sp positivity, Ruan Mei being all that Ruan Mei is for both break and every other buff she gives, and fugue to make Jingliu colorless so no need for sw to implant ice. I do agree it’s a lil “cope” but as a meme team it’s a funny idea so why not lmao
Ironicly, the HyperHybrid Lingsha with Fugue Sunday could be very fun, with Crit and Break, like almost Hybrid Boothill.
The idea is running the fastest Fugue as you can buff Lingsha, Speedtuning Lingsha for Sunday, and literally Bunny AoE. Also if your caracters are very Squishy, this proc more summons and lingsha CD from emergency bunny go back with Sunday xD
Returning player here! Is it worth to get Fugue even though I don't have Firefly? Is it worth to substitute E0S1 Superbreak Himeko + Fugue?
what characters do you have? also do you have break DPS units or is it himeko only?
@@ViciousKell Sadly, the only "main" break characters I have is Himeko (not yet fully built), and for supports that can help in break teams are E1 Gallagher and E0S0 Ruan Mei
@S3GN0 firefly will rerun with fugue, personally i would go firefly over fugue since you have ruan mei Gallagher and HMC
@@ViciousKell Thanks so much for the tip! I will try to get both with my 70 pulls hahaha!
I'd skip Firefly and Fugue and go for TheHerta instead. Himeko and miniHerta could be her teammates and then you pulled for 1 5star, not 2.
Especially as some enemies for sure will be break resistant in 3.x (hoolay e.g. I'd leaked to be so).
Firefly's shelf life looks the worst out of all break DPSs...
And Sunday will be more useful sustain unit then Fugue. He can be a general sustain in most teams and also is best in slot in summon oriented teams. While Fugue is a subpar substitute for HMC I. Firefly team (unless you get her E1). Barely better with Rappa and Acheron E0. Useless doe Acheron E2. And even in Acheron E0 Fugue will be likely outperformed by Anaxa (who will have out of turn action).
Of course, if you want Fugue because she is pretty (that dress for real ❤) or because she is your favorite character... Go for it, get her. But she is not very useful...
Remembrance MC will be a sub DPS / DPS unit who is not best in slot anywhere. So no use switching HMC out either... Having Sunday + Robin / Tingyun / Asta works better in beta Aglaea teams, at least.
(EODGamer hyped her up here but Fugue is not best in slot anywhere).
Mono fire team with firefly himeko fugue and lingsha/gallahad?
Hmmm I wonder how well Fugue work with Argenti? Because husbando has aoe skill + his ult hits twice when fully charged. Maybe add in Tingyun for energy regen & Adventurine to gain immortality?
If you are F2P just don't skip Fugue, you will regret it. she is a SP regainer who's enhanced basic attack does AOE. and her ultimate is still fast to charge.
We aren't talking about the bonus superbreak and debuffs/buffs. E0. but I bet half the people going to skip, just like with Lingsha regret it and later on moan when she doesn't get a RERUN.
(cause between Sunday Herta and Algaea most people will skip her).
Fugue n Honkai
i have an e2s1 ach w/ jiaoqiu sunday/robin (depending on availability) and an aventurine e2s1. is it worth it to run a dual nihility with fugue and jiao or sub jiao with fugue? or not get fugue at all and just save my jades. enlighten me pls
What about e2s1 Acheron+Fugue? Sparkle Adventurine? Or could you do like Himeko Gallagher?
Himeko and Gallagher are ideal picks since fugue will help with Himeko’s stacks increase with both the exo toughness and the colorless break enabling. Fast Gallagher with qpq gives a ton of energy and sp plus the toughness bar he does is huge overall so fugue with them would be amazing
I hope there is another Superbreak sustain. I like my current comp but here is hoping. Fugue will let me run a Rappa/Bronya/HMC/HuoHuo and Himeko/Fugue/Ruan Mei/Gallaghar as my Superbreak teams.
Using E2 Bronya and Rappa together is surprisingly fun.
If I can get Fugue, I will have 2 superbreak team, mono fire and rainbow superbreak team. Mono fire with FF, Himeko, Fugue, and Gallagher. Rainbow with Rappa, Ruan Mei, HMC, and Lingsha.
I'm very certain that Gallagher or any other healer will fill the sustain slot for future break teams because in 3.0 Lingsha will be a fire erudition unit😂
I’m planning to pull her E1 so I can run two break teams, E1 Fugue with Boothill is going to shred. I’m very excited
Good luck against break resistant enemies
Most people have no idea about game mechanic, if a character who has NO SKILL ... (well her skill is a buffing somebody for 3 turn to do more damage) and regains in those 3 turns 3 SP and 1 is going to be used for redoing that skill, 2 SP positive, her passives are debuff 3 enemy defense or shred it for no SP cost. give Super Break passive for no SP cost. people still do not understand a character. I just don't have words. she enables Bronya, Sunday, Himeko, Welt any other SP costing characters to spam their SKILL like the Main DPSER. means you up your damage tremendously. but heck we are talking to HSR community who don't understand much other then where is the guide.
how would rappa himeko harmony mc and fugue fair as a team?
As long as you can clear and pray to rnjesus one unit doesn’t get targeted, sounds very good ngl lol
Fugue WILL come home ❤
Skipping her due to losing the 50/50 on Sunday. Genuinely speaking, Amphoreus is the make it or break it moment for me with HSR.
I just can't keep up with the insane amount of power creep in the endgame modes, and the story of Xian Zhou and Penacony REALLY dragged on more than it should have.
If Amphoreus doesn't knock it out of the ballpark, might genuinely ditch this game which is such a shame as there isn't really a lot of high quality turn based gacha.
Any recommendations for relic sets, does she use watchmaker or calvary
Either works depending on who else you have built/will run on the same comp. Given that watchmaker doesn’t stack unfortunately when others ult and use it, I’d say Calvary is better in general use since fugue will be hitting more with both her eba and ults while someone like hmc (if played on the same team since super break stacks) or Ruan Mei on watchmaker, hope this helps!
I'm a returning player who doesn't know much about builds. Can I run him with HMC for a firefly team? As a replacement for Ruan mei since I don't have her? (Team will be: firefly, Fugue, HMC, Gallagher) (my Other good supports : E6 Pela, E3 Tingyun
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Yes you can, because the superbreak from fugue and hmc will stack
Fugue is crazy for Acheron if u have aventurine as she can make aventurine generate so many stacks for Acheron.
yeah but pretty useless if you have s1 aven since the fua alr debuffs and you can only generate one stack per attack
better with lingsha because she allows lingsha to do 300k damage without acheron even doing anything
@ oh I didn’t know. I’m too broke to bother reading aventurines lc, nice to know 👍🏽
If you don't have his light cone, maybe. But for her, I would wait to get Anaxa instead. As he is said to have action out of turn and will prob work well with Castorice, too.
We can smoke copium and try to make scenarios where Fugue is good but realistically she is a luxury item. Can have if you can afford it and won't be totally useless, but is far from needed or BiS
My based fugue team is Super Break Physical Trailblazer. Is it meta breaking? No. Are there better options? Yes. However, rules are meant to be broken.
I'm gonna have to try a break-a-dot-cheron soon.
My only dps is Himeko so Fugue is gonna be a must for me
Imma be real my lingsha was doing 300k dmg with fugue in the story, my e0s1 acheron, e0s1 lingsha with pela and fugue team will go hard idc
Her colorless reduction is only at 50% wbe of their base toughness reduction, right? So, if I have RM or Fugue E1 does that negate it and make it 100% wbe or not?
The short answer is no. The long answer is as below:
Total toughness damage=base toughness damage*break efficiency.
Take Serval for example, she does 20 toughness damage (main target) with her skill when breaking in element. With RM or E1 Fugue, she gets 50% efficiency increase and therefore now does 20*(1+50%)=30 toughness damage in element.
However when breaking off element, Serval's base toughness damage becomes halved: 20/2=10. With E1 Fugue only or E0 Fugue plus RM, her skill now does (20/2)*(1+50%)=15 toughness damage off element.
It takes both RM and E1 Fugue at 100% increased efficiency to negate it: (20/2)*(1+100%)=20 toughness damage off element.
Fugue's E1 makes the toughness reduction normal so basically 100%
@@mundane-ness Oh, okay. So, I need both RM and E1 Fugue to negate the 50℅ less on off elements. Gotcha!
@@applepi5100 Glad to help.
@@applepi5100 Glad to help.
I can't recommend Lynx to new players at all, even with Yunli who benefits the most with her she is rough to use.
I found this a lil funny since my sister just started HSR and got Clara so when she got fed up with March after experiencing Geppie on a now ded account, I recommended Lynx since she’ll get e1 with PF and is a great choice for her atm. I doubt she’ll get a limited sustain soon but even if she did, given the other options she had I do think this was the best option for her currently
@@Gottaloveaxolotls Perhaps Lynx is better than Natasha, I don't know, but Lynx healing is really not good. Bailu and Gallagher (obviously) do it better. She should probably pull on Fugue just to get Gallagher. For MoC12 using Lynx is a torture, I usually am better off running no sustain.
its incredible how every character I pull is a BiS for Acheron and I still dont have her 😭
dont be sad she got powercrept
@ Thats like saying Gallagher got powercrept, like sure but he isnt anywhere close to bad
@Lost_S gallagher is a sustain unit he can be used anywhere, acheron is a dps in a game that has the name honkai in it
I came back to this game cuz of her
Is fugue cheron better than dot cheron?no jiaoqiu
Will she work good with Acheron tho? Def pulling if she does
she can but put her buff to a character who can't debuff. If you have adventurine, put her buff on him so adventurines attacks can put debuff on enemies
Hope I could get her with my remaining jades after spending almost all on Sunday (~160 pulls). 😞
So... She's better SW?
I wonder what SW can be used for anymore...
Doormat. That's it.
And I am saying it as a SW fan. It's sad how much she's fallen off.
I have 160 pulls right now… May Lady Luck bless me.
I ain’t a lady but I am either insanely lucky or have disastrous luck so good luck my dude or gal o7
THANK YOUUUUU
Best team in the game >> e2 fugue, e1 ruan mei, e2 ff, e2 acheron… Trust me… Imagine every e2 ff hit generates a stack for acheron… damn
Why stop there? Just E6 all 😂
@@ashy969 those are recommended stopping points for each so i dont think its too unreasonable
Skipping til Castorice!
fugue + march hunt
Firefly, hmc, ruan mei, fugue >> Firefly, hmc, fugue, lingsha >> firefly, fugue, rmc, lingsha
I'm going to run like Fugue, FF(E2), RM, Bronya
sustain is overrated
Try hmc with x3 ddd
Yeaaah... One issue: it seems, they'll try to force stop the use of superbreak. For sure we know that some enemies will be break resistant in 3.x. and none of the future characters will be related to superbreak in any way... RMC won't be a must use in summon teams, either, so no need ro switch them out from superbreak teams.
And for Acheron E0 teams... Anaxa will be an ice aligned nihility unit with out of turn action (and as a Nihility unit, likely will debuff). Sooo... Fugue will not be that good in those teams, either....
As for Rappa... Actually, she might remain a viable option in The Herta teams, as she is a fast and often attacker erudition unit. Jade for sure is the BiS teammate there, but as the Herta will welcome more erudition on team (like Acheron with nihility), Rappa could be an option besides mini Herta and Himeko.
I love Fugue'd design and all, but she is a bait. One of the most skippable units with Sunday, The Herta and the rest coming. One rerun likely being Jade... Or Ruan Mei... Even if you want her as a wifu, I would skip Fugue for now.
Acheron tingyun jiaoqiu lingsga will be acheron's best team for a while trust
If you accidently got a e6 ruan mei, fugue is a must pull, because she can proc e6 ruan mei break dmg twice.
Overbreak!
Everyone thinking of making the usual superbreak team.. And then there's me..
Welt Sustainless with Sunday, Ruan Mei, Fugue
Or slow Welt, replacing sunday with Gepard
Welt slow, imprison, and img break imprison
Ruan mei delay recovery with ult..
Fugue delay enemies more after break..
Sunday just basically give more turn for welt..
Gepard freeze and slow (e2)
Welt was my first 5* and my hypercarry till I got acheron and firefly and I still use him with acheron as sub dpa, gigachad Welt!!
people don't realise that preservation mc is a better break dpc than himejo
I think break will fall out of meta plus i dont have a single break dps. I am still trying to pull Sunday i am almost at pity. If i dont manage to get him i will pull Firefly.
Fugu
Worst character created 😂😂 only in break team, nowhere else. You guys can say Jiaoqiu is only for Acheron team, he can play on yunli, ratio team as well. While look at this fugue, nerfed hard on last version, only play good on team break, nothing else
Shame, you sound like the doomposters for Yunli and Jiaoqiu even boothill and the crazy thing is what you’re saying is word for word what people said about Jiaoqiu during his beta phase saying he got nerfed and is unplayable and look at him now. Same with all the other doomposted characters that were “bad” what a ridiculous narrative.
@@maccavann8519 Just wait and watch xD jiaoqiu's kit is at least still better and more versatile, not this fugue. Just watch