Making Europe democratic - pt. 3 - Volt

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2024

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  • @DakiDaki7
    @DakiDaki7 3 роки тому +49

    Even tho I am leftist and don't agree with some thing Volt wants, I still like them and want for them to become bigger player in politics :D

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +9

      Good to hear, we also think they are a very interesting addition to the political arena. Why do you want them to become bigger?

    • @DakiDaki7
      @DakiDaki7 3 роки тому +11

      @@Ciceroni1 I think that bigger eurofederalist party will bring us Europeans together, and we will with better ability do things like pandemic

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 роки тому

      We must ban immigration from the south to the north. Change me mind.

  • @volt_slovenija
    @volt_slovenija Рік тому +8

    Thank you for a great video!

  • @OlliHH1978
    @OlliHH1978 3 роки тому +32

    Thanks a lot for this great and informative video.
    As a Volt member currently engaged in the German election campaign I believe that Volt in the short run will be able to influence other parties (especially when the other parties notice that people vote for Volt) and in the long run it will definitely help shape the EU on all levels.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +8

      Best of luck for the upcoming elections! Great that you are using your energy in the democratic process!

    • @OlliHH1978
      @OlliHH1978 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ciceroni1 Thanks a lot!

    • @MMartec
      @MMartec Рік тому +1

      I just became a member of Volt Germany also :)))

    • @OlliHH1978
      @OlliHH1978 Рік тому

      @@MMartec Cool! I left in July this year and are about to join the FDP. 😄

  • @matthewvieru4575
    @matthewvieru4575 Рік тому +4

    thank you for making a video about Volt Europe!

  • @specialFabi96
    @specialFabi96 3 роки тому +31

    Very cool, would love to see more about Volt! 🎉🇪🇺

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +2

      What sort of video would you like to see?

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 роки тому

      Did you know Volt is in favor of making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Afrika make it to your country (and reproduce), hence replacing you?

    • @specialFabi96
      @specialFabi96 3 роки тому +3

      @@herculeskoutalidis1369 As I am not a far-right eurosceptic, I do not fear being replaced: How should that even work? You are right, our society will develope. But who am I to decide who lives in Europe?

    • @specialFabi96
      @specialFabi96 3 роки тому +2

      @@herculeskoutalidis1369 Your statement is racist and discrimminates everybody that was not born in Europe.

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 роки тому

      @@specialFabi96 so? How is this a bad thing, Fabi? Racism would protect a group of people from accepting to give their place to a less good group of people. I am not discriminating against non europeans. I am discriminating against "less good" in general. Average Greeks, Italians, Spanish etc in Sweden, are also bad for the same reasons.

  • @FriedrichJeschke
    @FriedrichJeschke 3 роки тому +7

    Thx for this Video - but where is the link / source that Diem25 wants paneuropean politics? This is something unique at Volt.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +4

      True, Diem has a slightly different set-up but also want to conduct politics across/over national borders. It has not the same pan-european core as Volt, neither does the other party we discussed (Pirate Party) but all three step beyond the national focus that traditional parties hold to.

  • @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60
    @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60 3 роки тому +10

    Very good video, and very accurate as well!

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 роки тому

      Did you know Volt is in favor of making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Afrika make it to your country (and reproduce), hence replacing you?

    • @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60
      @lucasamorelliribeirokornex60 3 роки тому

      @@herculeskoutalidis1369 wow. So much to unpack here. I think I'll just leave...

  • @vegemarkr4582
    @vegemarkr4582 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the great video :)

  • @andrejparunovic
    @andrejparunovic 3 роки тому +4

    Just have a ten second segment at the begging saying, "this is part of a series on... to get to the first video in the series, click on the link in the description" and move on.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +2

      I get your point, we were thinking of how to do it. We thought it would be good to be able to watch them individually as well and hope that the chapters make it easy to skip the intro if you have already seen it.

  • @QuandaleDingle-ji2tj
    @QuandaleDingle-ji2tj 2 роки тому

    will you make any more videos on this channel?

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  2 роки тому

      We do this as a sideproject and sadly often don't find the time. But yes, we plan on doing more :) so maybe soon you'll see new stuff pop up!

  • @LoSpotItaliano
    @LoSpotItaliano 2 роки тому

    Cool video! Thanks

  • @ronaldonmg
    @ronaldonmg 2 роки тому +1

    Please add a definition whenever you use the word "populist". My favourite one is "polician pretending to defend the "good" populace against the "corrupt" elite" . The word "nationalist" is vague too. Just because you want your native language/culture to have some territory doesn't mean that you want to shove it down the rest of the world's throat (which would be chauvinist), nor that you don't care about nastiness happening abroad

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  2 роки тому

      Nice definition of populist, thanks :)

  • @marinmilevoj4829
    @marinmilevoj4829 2 роки тому

    How do you make your videos? What software do you use?

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  2 роки тому

      We use a number of programmes to do simple animations, edit, etc. Mostly we use Final Cut Pro X for editing everything together. Are you looking to make your own videos?:)

  • @alexandersekizi1910
    @alexandersekizi1910 3 роки тому

    interesting and informative video - but work on your microphone setup, you have too ppl much gain, it's sounds a bit distorted ;)

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому

      Thanks! You are right. We had some issues with the sound and noticed too late.. We'll have it fixed for next time!

  • @raphael988
    @raphael988 3 роки тому

    Nice Video 🚀

  • @snowmanscz1011
    @snowmanscz1011 3 роки тому +1

    Fix the chapters. This is not Diem25

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, copy paste mistake there. Fixed now ;)

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 роки тому

      Did you know Volt is in favor of making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Afrika make it to your country (and reproduce), hence replacing you?

  • @abraxaszee8953
    @abraxaszee8953 2 роки тому

    Good morning. I have recently published a book that could provide some good material for your channel. It is called The Changing of the Gods.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  2 роки тому

      Could you share a link?:)

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 роки тому +2

    If they’re going to abolish the EU, at least keep the Euro and the open internal border. Hopefully the EU reforms to stop the backslide.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +9

      I think keeping the Euro and the common internal market but abolishing the EU might be slightly impossible. But yes, hopefully reforms will improve the EU to work well for all of us:)

  • @aussiegod4269
    @aussiegod4269 3 роки тому

    The Gorbachev of the EU.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому

      Sounds interesting, could you explain what you mean exactly?:)

    • @aussiegod4269
      @aussiegod4269 3 роки тому +2

      Centralisation under the guise of democratisation is not a solution for broad underlying dissent. What’s best for all Europeans may not be best for Europeans in the Eastern bloc. Thinking that the voices of the minority populist nations can be drowned out by the larger states is not a long term strategy for unity. It’s because of this that Volts ambitions will never materialise. Even if they obtain a great reception in the west you can be sure that the visegrad states will not comply and harden their resolve against the EU. This ultimately sets up the same dynamic that existed between the EU and UK before Brexit.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +1

      ​@@aussiegod4269 Volt has chapters in countries across Europe, including Visegrad countries, that contribute to policy as do those in the Benelux. Do you not think they could represent the voice of the people in those countries?

    • @aussiegod4269
      @aussiegod4269 3 роки тому

      @@Ciceroni1 Democratisation would suggest that countries with majority population centres will have a greater say in EU policies which are for the most part in opposition to the political values of Eastern bloc nations. It’s similar to how in the US more populated states can field more representatives to congress which leaves unpopulated states on the margins of the political lens. Now you might say that why dont the Eastern European states just boost their population through mass migration. Well the fact is they have seen the costs associated with such a Ponzi scheme in the west and don’t want to go down that same route, instead opting for natural growth. So the conundrum still lies that these countries will ultimately be sidelined.

  • @Tony.H03
    @Tony.H03 3 роки тому +4

    I'm annoyed that Volt acts as though this is revolutionary. The Green parties came up with this decades ago. The EGP is the first European party, federal out of necessity, not conviction. The Greens, many liberals, and many social democrats have always supported trans-European parties and lists. I hope Volt gets this done, and then makes itself obsolete/dissolves into the liberals. We have too many parties in eg the NL already.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +4

      It might not be very different but there are some clear ones. The EGP indeed is a European party (or group), but more in the traditional sense. It still is a confederation of many different national parties though. They each ran with their own national programmes and names during the 2019 EP elections. Volt however ran with exactly the same programme in 2019. If successful this is an important step toward transnational parties.
      NB. The Volt MEP is currently also part of the EGP. Which highlights that parties within the EGP can differ quite a lot from each other.

    • @Tony.H03
      @Tony.H03 3 роки тому

      @@Ciceroni1 I think you're confusing the EGP with the Greens/EFA. The EGP member parties sit in the Greens/EFA, but Volt (nor the EFA parties) aren't members of the EGP. And the EGP has both a European programme, as well as national ones.
      But again, that is by necessity, not conviction. The EGP and all its member parties are pro trans national lists and pan European parties (at at the European level anyway).

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +2

      ​@@Tony.H03 You are right, the EGP is indeed a 'federal party'. But I think the comparison is still basically the same. Where Volt campaigned explicitly with 1 programme, the same name etc. The EGP campaigned as national parties. While they might have common positions, I don't think voters have the feeling they are voting for something besides their national party. This is a new approach by Volt. Wouldn't you agree?
      PS. I do agree that the EGP with very similar names (when translated) and similar party programmes is already a step towards transnational parties. From that perspective both parties can be happy they are not alone in the effort :)

    • @Tony.H03
      @Tony.H03 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ciceroni1 no I agree, but my point is that the Greens would basically want to do what Volt does, but because they already have national names they don't. Also to be clear: the transnational programme is more important than the national programmes and when it comes to voting in the EP, that is supposed to be the basis, not much unlike Volt. Although it is less strict because the national parties preceded the EGP (again, by necessity, not conviction 🙃). The parties would prefer to not run for the EP, but instead have one EGP run for which they campaign. So I dislike that Volt pretends it's so revolutionary, while the EGP (and sorta the PES) already support this kind of structure, but the way European elections work limits them from doing what Volt does. Of course Volt kinda succeeded where they failed, but I'd like the acknowledgement? I would've liked for Volt to not have formed a party but instead some kind of collective that strongly encouraged and pressured Greens, Liberals, and Social Democrats to pursue their European mission more or smth. I also think that would've been more effective.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +4

      @@Tony.H03 I understand your point, but I'm not so sure about some aspects. In case transnational parties would formally fully exist: Do you think the for example GroenLinks would stop campaigning as themselves for EP elections, but instead campaign solely for the EGP? That means they lose influence and money because they as GroenLinks formally don't have seats in EP.
      Also Volt formally had the same limitations in how the EU elections work. They decided to form a party that internally already acts like a European party, instead of a collection of national parties. This is a choice the Greens also had/have.
      As for encouraging others: they do have very concrete proposals on how to change the EU electoral system and their MEP does work on this in Brussels I believe.

  • @herculeskoutalidis1369
    @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 роки тому +3

    All these 3 parties support immigrant quotas*, as well as making it easier for immigrants from Asia and Africa to cross over to Europe (=Germany, etc.). Meanwhile, countries like Germany are now only 74% german, the rest being immigrants from the south. Those parties (along with most big mainstream parties) support this steady population replacement. Athens, where I live, is now 30% non white. So it is going to be Orban/Salvini/Le Pen, etc. for me.
    * Immigrant quotas means that a freemason government in Greece will keep allowing immigrants coming, then these must be (according to aslo freemason Volt/Pirates/Diem) redistributed to Sweden, Germany, Poland, Hungary, Finland. I mean, guys. It's not rocket science.

    • @Ciceroni1
      @Ciceroni1  3 роки тому +4

      It certainly isnt rocket science :) Politics is much less clear.
      Several parties want to make it easier for immigrants to follow a legal route, rather than only having an illegal one. This does not per se mean there will be more immigrants.
      Of course, you have every right to vote for Orban/Le Pen etc. if you prefer the Europe they envisage. That's the nice thing about democracy :)

    • @herculeskoutalidis1369
      @herculeskoutalidis1369 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ciceroni1 I do prefer the Europe they envisage. Because the alternative (what we have now), is Germans being slowly replaced by Greeks, Turks, Syrians, Italians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Afghans, and so on. So I don't see how this is better than a nativist Europe. I mean, I know it is not a rainbows and roses ''''End of History'''' kind of solution. But I believe is still better than what our current era will eventually lead us to in about 20 years from now. :)

    • @letsgoraiding
      @letsgoraiding 3 роки тому

      Well said.

    • @realtimestatic
      @realtimestatic 2 роки тому +4

      What’s so bad about immigrants?

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 роки тому

      @@realtimestatic You Tube doesn't allow me to answer with my other account, so I answer with this one. The more north you go inside Europe, the more beautiful nations become. Therefore immigration from the south to the north decreases the average beauty of the population. Immigration from the north to the south is fine though, for the same reason.