"How to Bid (Estimate) Interior Painting" By Painting Business Pro
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Before you give me all kinds of crap about how I estimate interior (I know it's incredibly ghetto, and I expect more of myself). But, it works! I'll tell you what isn't worth your time... worrying about fixing something that isn't broken. If this system for estimating interior wasn't working for me, I would do something about it. Not everything has to be sexy. I'd rather spend my time selling more jobs.
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Another helpful tip is to charge prep labor separate from the painting job itself. Customers don't always mean to not move furniture, or clean up pet hair, hidden holes or cracks, and do do behind the couch, but you can cover yourself a little better by billing time and have them initial it daily if it is a long job, or keep the communication line open. Pics help as well. Don't forget those huge bushes outside the house with bees nests in them. I can't tell you how many times I double as an exterminator. "More Money".
Bit late to comment but I've been there, I just bake it in to my price when I'm bidding. I actually vacuum and mop all of my jobs when I'm finished because I often make a bit of mess myself from touch-up dust. I also do mostly interiors, I live in a climate that is fairly unpredictable and I'm not a fan of heights. By cleaning up after I'm finished I put myself ahead of most of my competition.
@@stargateproductions You sir are a rarity as I see contractor/painter/handyman come in and barely clean up. A cleaning is how you get invited back.
I walk in to a house and just literally look around and i just guess my price lol. I gave up measuring or writing any numbers down except typing up the estimate with the final number. I think your general template is pretty spot on and i kinda use that technique. When you been in the game for a while you just get used to it and you can kinda just know. sometimes my prices are a little high or low probably, but it evens out. I get a feel from the client on how much they want to spend and what their needs are. Also, I've found that dropping a giant number for a full house can sticker shock people. Its always best to try to break them up if you can, such as starting with a floor or a few rooms or even just breaking up interior and then exterior in a seperate number once you finish their interior. I dunno.. That's what works for me. I've saved countless hours of my valuable time not fucking with numbers and detailed estimates. If they say no just just move on. There's enough paint work out there if you just paint good and keep trying.
Your correct, just throw out a number that pays your expenses, and you can make a living off. Not every customer is going go for your bid, the low ball painters are the guys that don't last long in the biz.. When I throw out a number that shocks the customer, oh well, I move on to the next one.
If I ever saw you in a bar/club, or any other social establishment, I'd tell the bartender to leave ALL of your drinks on my tab!! You definitely did me a solid by teaching me these tips brotha!!! Good Work!!
You go right ahead and listen to that fool
Facts 💯
Id love to see an updated example of this pricing for 2022. Great video.
Yea this would be at very least double in 2022. Prices in 2022 are between 3-6 dollars per square foot of WALL SPACE. Not square foot of the house. A lot of people and even published websites confuse the two square footages. I’ve read webpages calculating an estimate for an entire house paint job based on square footage of the house and beleive me it’s wayyy below what it should cost. So it’s not great news for us painters who bid a job properly and then people google “how much does it cost to paint a house” and they’re fed misinformation making the contractor seem unreasonable. His 12X12 room in 2022 would be 12X8X4= 384 sq ft X 4$ per sq ft = $1536. Now typically for me the sq ft price includes walls ceiling and trim and material, and as far as coats of paint are concerned that includes however many coats of paint is required to cover it and make it look good. Could be 1 coat, could be 3. Doors are 75-100 each in 2022.
@@dandunk4061 Dan thanks for the factuals rather than the guess?timate as you've well defined being online "resources" telling homeowners it's this price which is usually CHEAP. (not including you Eric and PBP in that comment) Sooo frustrating, Dan your prices are closer to reality (here in utah county Utah) and a painter being able to do the job 1 provide Great quality 2 and 3-still feed His family, Thanks!!
@@dandunk4061 could you tell me what you would bid on just the walls, no ceiling or trim and if they bought the paint? How much per sq. Ft?
@@pamelapainter3195 I’ll tell you the truth, I trust the products I use because I’ve worked with them so many times. There’s other aspects to a brand of paint to a “painter” than just the final product, and that’s “workability” . A lot of your box store paints , even some big names, are flingy. They are so super watery to use on a daily basis and slow down a professional pace. Not to mention throw paint dots literally everywhere, on your wood floor, countertops, desks and dressers , lamps , door handles , etc . Therefore I stick to the brands I know best , all that to say I actually charge more to do the job with a customers own paint, rather than letting me get it. They won’t know it, but I do. With that being said no ceiling and no trim would probably cut the price somewhere in half. Just walls is easy. In my experience tho trim is usually filthy whether you can realize it or not and I would always reccomend getting trim painted too. Ceiling can be skipped about half the time, but will always look better painted fresh. Per sq foot depends on whether there is a lot of mud work or not, condition of the walls, how “cut up” the room is, meaning is there a ton of brush work, a lot of angles and corners and half walls , stuff to paint around, or is it just big square walls. If it’s easy and quick it costs less. If it’s a paint in the rear it costs more. Typically I’m between 2-7 per square foot. All depends. Nasty ol decrepit walls in a 100 years old house cost less 2-3$ sqfoot than brand new nice smooth perfect drywall in a million dollar home 4,5,6$ sqfoot. When bidding I typically go with a vibe or a feeling I have based on how much material will cost and how long it will take me to do it and also how desperate I am or not for the job tbh . Usually not a ton of math or measuring . Only for huge projects to help me get a ballpark number will I measure and do a ton of math , then even then will I add in a vibe type of adjustment .
I'm impressed. Your common sense approach makes sense, it's practical and easy to apply. I'm don't have a painting business, I'm simply helping my son bid on a weekend job. This was VERY helpful. One more thing, you're willingness to share your knowledge is remarkable, you will reap the benefits for years to come.
I am new to having my own business; not new to painting. I suck at bidding. Sick of screwing myself by low-balling a job!!!! UGH. I need to be more assertive. Great vids.
How did you screw yourself ? You lost money or?
A small cheat is.... do it by hour instead of sq ft.... how much you would like to get paid by hour
Do you still have your painting business?
I had my painting and drywall company in the late 80's and early 90's and I wish you guys were around then, I gave it up around 99 and went to work in Hvac and then in Real Estate, but now my nephew wants me to start my company again and work with him. I am so grateful to your videos, and am now considering just getting my licenses and insurances and hiring subs to do the work after doing the estimating based on the information you gave me about sites such as pep estimating. Thanks.
Eric, you don't know how many videos I've watched to get the right estimate. Your video totally answered all my questions. Thanks for the tips!
Thank you so much Eric! You are SUCH A GOOD resource! There are so many things I like about your video- (I haven't watched others you've produced yet but I definitely will.).
You are professional but not pretentious.
You get right to the point and don't waste your (very grateful viewers's) time.
You seem to enjoy yourself and have great energy.
You put things in an easy, don't sweat it, perspective. NICE!
I could go on but I'm the sort who can get verbose so I'll leave it at that. Thanks again! :)
Thanks for these great vids. Ive been in business for 10 years now and you are spot on. Good job!
Thank you Eric for sharing your time, talent, and treasure to the rest of us.
Thanks! This helped, I'm bidding for a painter who cannot read or write. I was successful in getting the exterior for him but the interior is killing me! I've already spent three hours with figures. (I am a hairdresser just trying to help him out). This is a big job for a new business in an historical building. I am working on 2050 square feet, 9 ft ceilings and 18 rooms!!! It is a nightmare! I am subscribing to your videos for sure.
Jimmie from Louisiana just to say thanks I like the break down to your system and I know thats the info I been needing to get me started and I will be starting the process and I will let you know the out come. Im sure ill do just fine and now I can work a job and be home with my family when this goes well. Thanks for your time to make the videos
I think your an awesome guy for taking the time to do this!! Thanks so much!
That’s how I do it, very simple and effective 👏🏼
Thanks for the Easy to follow video, much appreciated:)…
I do Reno's and sometimes painting is involved.
At present I have a customer who wants to buy their own paint…
What percentage would you take off the $1/sq Ft formula?
Hey Eric. Your methods are so easy to understand and follow. Sometimes I tend to over think quotes as I'm just starting out with my own business, but you have definitely helped that out. Following you has definitely made things a lot easier. The only question I have is. Do you ever run into a quote that seems a little high or to low and what do you do to simplify it.
Where's the variable of repair! I've been painting for 30 years. Painting new builds is easy. Repaint residential painters better know how to repair cracks using a variety of compounds, not just joint compound and skilled with the blades. Waiting for patching to dry between coats is TIME, one of the most important variables. Painters need to know when to go drywall or 3 coat skim for large areas. Is there furniture to be moved and how much working space with furniture in room. That's time prepping. 3rd floor or 1st floor? Color? Some colors, like reds take 3+ coats. Windows? Prepping peeling paint from a 6 pane per window and sanding smooth is TIME. I could go on and on. Bidding is not that simplistic as presented.
This is a 10 minute video. Of course there is more to building this business and doing it properly. But this is a great place to start and keep it simple.
This is an example of a basic room that needs to be repainted.
If there is a lot of prep, you'll need to have a "standard" for that. If you are going to be taking down pictures or moving furniture, you'll need standards for that too.
But you also need a place to start. And this is a good and simple place to start.
That use to be painter now that's Handyman. I did it so long now I'm doing it no more
Hooah VC
Absolutely true. His model just shows the basics to run off of in an ideal setting. Your points are right on. The devil is in the details. Unkept Animals and smokers ... Do I need to say more with that one? There a million variables.
Chill brooo
hey Eric. good video I bid the very same way down here in Florida. It's simple and easy and that's what customers like. I've come up with a few good ideas from watching you're how to do videos. I subscribed. hope the business is doing well. take care
Solid information sir. Just in time for tomorrow's pricing job. Thank you
hey Eric, I bid pretty much the same way out here in law Vegas. good video and I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one bidding ghetto style lol.
whats the process of becoming a contract painter in las vegas?
Thanks again, I am glad for your willingness to help people who desire to succeed
You got it!
Hey Eric, thanks for the info ! How many coats of paint does your pricing allow for ?
I'd imagine the standard 2 coats, prime and paint. I've got a job now that has 4 coats because its going from brown trim to a bright white.
I love you already, and less than 2 mins in. Thank you for the inspiration and knowledge
You got it! A lot of good stuff on the whole channel, and even more in our full training program :)
So helpful for us beginners and this is Gold!
Loved it man. I'm thinking of starting my own business and this definitely helped
Glad to hear it! Let me know if you have any questions I can help with. If you decide to start one, definitely look into my full program here: www.paintingbusinesspro.com/course
Cheers!
Does this estimate include prep work? Mudding, sanding and priming? Thanks so much for the video you've just made my job so much easier moving forward.
Believe me! it's not always that simple. The job I am currently on have vaulted ceilings in the living & dining room. Also, all the trim, doors & base boards were in a stain pack and were going into white. I hate biding myself but, I have a simple way. A daily rate for myself and my crew. Then, I figure out how many hours or days per room. Next, material costs. I always add a little more for extra's. I always come out on top.
Interior is definitely trickier to estimate than exterior - for exactly the type of job you just mentioned. Interiors can be so different and unique, which makes it harder to have a set formula. What's in the video is a good place to start though, and it will need adjustments for unique situations. Thanks for the input!
@@PaintingBusinessPro Hi! that price is just for the labor?
@@leon-fz4cd No, it's labor and materials. But it's also from 8 years ago. So prices have for sure gone up since then. Probably add 30% to these.
Great instructional. Haven't been in this line of work for many years. Most of what you used for examples sounded spot on to how we used to do it! Just helping an old friend out and this gave me a great starting place to give her a price. Thanks! DP
Good day ma'am/sir, if you need any help for your takeoffs i can assist you with that,I do most of the trades,im a freelance estimator, i used planswift in my takeoffs, you can email me at earlobregon@gmail.com
This assumes 8 foot ceilings, correct? How does the formula adjust for 10, 12 or 14 foot ceilings?
Thanks in advance
Hey Eric, Great Video. I've been painting since I was 11 yrs. old. Dad would get the "Side Work" & put us kids to work. Later in life I thanked him for the knowledge but back in the 70's, I wasn't very happy about it. I've been bidding side jobs for yrs. but wasn't sure if I was being fair. As you mentioned, you win some & you lose some. Mostly I've been successful at doing so. Since viewing your videos you have showed me I have been pretty much on track with pricing. Wanting to change careers, I'm tired of working for The Man! lol Thanks my friend & I'll be watching more of your videos. Thanks Again, Peace
Thanks for sharing this information. This is very helpful, and pretty easy to comprehend and remember. Please tell me is there a easy way to estimate how to paint interior concrete floors, can you just use the ceiling price + figure in some prep time or is there another way to estimate floors?
I've been painting as a subcontractor for a local real estate company here in South Mississippi for 4 years now. And just this month I've decided to start my business. I'm licensed now . This video is a tremendous help. Because working for the real estate I've not made good money. They will only pay me 1000 bucks for a 13 hundred Sq ft house. Which is a rip off to me. But ive had to do this to make money. But no more. I love this work and I want to make money at it. And u just helped me ..
Great!
@@EricBarstow thanks so much!! I'll be watching more of your videos..
Wow this was so easy now I’m going to use your same format to bid on interior paint jobs WOW! WOW WOW! Thank you
Rock on man.
You are a Good Human, God bless you with lots of success.
Good job you really really kept me from beating myself any further
You're such an incredible person. Thanks for sharing this insightful piece. Just what I wanted.
Eric what about when furniture needs to be move around, do you ask for the room to be empty or you charge more when furniture needs to be move. Thanks
thancks man for all ur advices .... ill folow u step by step and im shure my company will be like yours in the next tree four years ...im on job seekers alowance from 2 mounts ago and convinced by u, today i was and i registred my company name :) lets do it man:
you really helped me out with this cause I really been underbidding my jobs
Hello Eric at PaintingBusisnessPro. Ive been a painter in Vancouver British Columbia for the the past 17 years. I started in exterior repaint and moved into new construction apartments and town homes. I've always usually worked hourly sub contract and made a decent wage but Im finding now i want more. I have a good knowledge of how to run a job as far as quality goes and rate of production. I've always been detoured by my bosses as they would feel threatened by my going on my own and stealing customers, and not share their knowledge of the industry. I've since made the decision to go on my own. I've taken the time to go through many of your videos and feel much more confident and excited to make this venture. I soon plan on purchasing your course to help further my success in this industry. I think your views and opinions as to the attitudes towards certain aspects of the industry are right on.
Awesome thanks for the message!
Thanks man answered all of my questions.
Great video! Do these quote prices include material cost, or do you ask for this in addition to your client purchasing work materials for the job? Thanks!
Thank you so much for your acknowledge sir!!! It is helping me a lot as i am starting my company. Appreciate it so much!!!
Great!! I'd recommend you check the training program out, especially since you're starting. paintingbusinesspro.com/pbp-training-program
how do you estimate bathroom and kitchen cabinets into your rooms?
I’m just getting started very helpful thank you
You got it! Happy to help.
Great video Eric! I need to look into this program sure would help me in my new painting business. Does this cost include paint cost? How would you price closets accent walls thank you.
Yes thank you! I sent you a message thanks again for the amazing videos need to get you system ASAP it looks great.
Hey Eric you are making me want to come back to painting lol . I was working with my dad about 8 years ago but couldn't get along with him lol .. I want to come back and work with him again in he's company but I want to still find my own customers and surprise the old men .. He is getting old and I know that he wants to pass the business to he's sons but I have no idea on how to estimate a job this video is giving me a idea on where to start lol .. Thank u for the videos..
Great video! Question…are these estimates for labor only? If not, what are you including? Thanks again!
Includes materials. But this is also an old video and prices have for sure gone up a bit!
Thanks I needed that. 👍 nice and simple
great video(s) man! the two coats you have included in this quote, how many cans of paint (on avg.) is that and what is the cost you used per can in this quote? thanks!
+Eric Barstow got it. thanks!
Thanks for your knowledge Eric!!!!
Happy to provide it!!
Great video Eric, I’m considering subscribing to your lead service
If you need leads, do it! If you have questions, our team can help you out.
When you give your customer an estimate with just a number on it or do you give them your detailed blueprint you used when walking around getting your calculations or do you use a template?
We have a proposal we write up.
Someone wants me to go estimate an apartment.. for paint what should i do?? I dont know nothing about estimates this is in new york everything is expensive
I'm looking at starting a painting a buisness great advice thank you
Does this estime include primer? What if it’s fresh drywall? You charge double?
thank you man you're video was so helpful
How much would you charge for a basic 2bedroom apartment. Ceilings, trim , walls , doors , closets. I live by cleveland ohio.
what will the price be for prep work for those rooms?
Excellent!
Hi Eric, do the estimates include paint and materials?
Does your course cover additional variables than just this? Great intro video and helpful but curious how much more info on this process is listed in your program. Thanks.
Pretty much everything in the course is more detailed than anything I put out for free. And anything you still have questions about our Facebook group (members only) is great.
Hi, your video is very simple and helpful, thank you, I have a just one question... 50$ You mean one side of door or Both side?
Both sides
Do you have any tips on how to bid and estimate on commercial/Industrial jobs??
Eric is that just your labor or is that a flat for materials and everything?
This is awesome, I was wondering if I could e-mail you a quick question in regards to finding bids?
Thanks for the video, really helpful. I'm starting my own business.
Great! Definitely download the start up checklist I have on my website here: www.paintingbusinesspro.com/course
Thanks for the inputho ur amazing 👏 👏
You got it!
You are the best Eric
Good estimated 👍
You are 100% correct on your pricing sir
When will the interior bid sheet be available and do a live interior estimate like the wonderful exterior you did Eric👍🏻 Great Videos and explanation. Happy Week, Derek
I don't know if I'll have this video made for interior.
Best vid,really like your advise
were these prices with or without cost of paint and materials?
I am glad to come across you, looking to get my own thing going soon. Tell me, are these numbers usually including me buying the paint? Also where are you located? Forgive me, I don't want to bother you with questions you have already answered. Thanks
Materials included, as stated in the description. I'm in Colorado, but these prices will be a good starting point for just about anywhere in US/Canada.
Thanks for tips bro appreciate it
You got it
does it include a coat of primer for that price?
I have started my small painting business, and its doing ok. but sometimes i have trouble measuring inside and outside and when that happens i called for help.. for example, some contractors say that you don't have to measure the ceiling because it doesn't count. only the walls. this is what they called " total heated space" or insulation painting.. have you ever heard about this stuff? Also, any tips on how to calculate an estimate using a Blueprint? Thanks
So good man, thanks !!
Going off your standard interior formula. How do you adjust for kitchens and bathrooms. Alot less wall space. Do you charge by the cut ins. And for trim thru out the house do you have a stanard price per foot.
It's hard to answer that. How we actually estimate is WAY more detailed than this video. This is a very basic starter. We have very detailed estimating standards we use, but we teach those in the full training program.
Is Material include in this estimate as well?
*Interesting Construction Estimating Video, ASPE*
Thanks for the information. I will share what I find out.
You the trim does that included the door jam?
are those prices with paint included?
Thanks for all this information. That price for room are included the materials?
Yep
Thank you for the into Eric very useful and helpful. Just one thing Id like to be clear of, when you estimate interior or exterior but interior in this case, do you put the Paint price in it to, total price or do you just always do the labor and materials part just like you explain and do add one more thing on the question, what is the best choice to do when estimating, include the paint or let the customers deal with that part what choice will win you the job. Once again, thanks a lot!
Paint is included. Include the paint always.
ok... 2 coats, what about if need any preparing the walls, doors, frames (have any holes, or need to remove paint?)
thanks Erik
Hey Eric, any quick tips on how to jumpstart a painting business in November given the lack of outdoor jobs. Thanks!
+Eric Barstow Thanks for the quick response, Eric! One last question: If an average exterior job averages $3,000-$3500, how much should you typically average for an interior job? Thanks.
This helped me so much thank you
good channel ur doing a good thing helping and encouraging people. i plan to get into this very soon.
Thanks man! Love seeing it help people! Onward!
PaintingBusinessPro true true, quick question tho; i know you said you would normally give a subcontractor 50% so in tha case do you also provide materials and pain? or its upto them to provide all the resources the job will take out of what you pay them. thanx!!😎
They buy materials.
PaintingBusinessPro got it thanks!
really appreciate your insight Eric!
do these rough costs include the closet in each room?
No they don't. Depending on size of closet you can add $30-$100... or if it's a walk in closet, like a small room, it might be as much as a couple hundred. This is just designed to get you started. You can get more estimating info here: www.paintingbusinesspro.com
@@PaintingBusinessPro Thanks brother, you'll never know how much these vids you make are helping me!
@@thecommission5730 Amazing man. Thanks for sharing! Check out my full training course when you can afford to get it, it's better than all my free stuff (obviously) :)
www.paintingbusinesspro.com/course
Thanks for the vid. Is windows included with trims
Yea. If there is a LOT of trim add $30 or $50. This is a rough estimate. Use it to hone in your estimating skills.
Thanks for your expertise
Thank you
Are you spraying the rooms or rolling it? Are the prices different if you do one or the other ?
Brush and roll - we only ever spray when it's an empty house and carpets are not in or are going to be replaced.
What's your normal brand of mid range paint to use and also do you always use water based???
Yea mostly latex paint. We use a lot of Sherwin Williams products.
+Eric Barstow Is it a good idea to ask the customer what the budget is or what they're expecting to pay? Also is it a good idea to ask what the other contractors are charging them?
VERY HELPFUL