@@jannisjussios5396 This’ll be my opinion, but using the MP40 in late stages in the war was more favorable and logical if you think about it, both in usage and production, with its being much easier to build with the stamped steel strategy and the thing being a fully automatic gun that is small enough to wield through buildings. i’d say them using them in the later stages more made a lotta sense with the fact the Russians are knocking on their doorstep at Berlin.
@@yourlocalweebfriend3537 Ummm, have you seen the last ditch junker K98s they made late war, they didn't have the resources to openly mass produce any MP40s late-war, and the Germans were desperate. So if anything I think it's more the opposite, they favored them up until the war started coming to a close.
@@jaredelizardo201well you’d sure hope so considering the Sten gun was essentially a tube of metal that didn’t require a load of complex parts to manufacture
The MP40 was also one of the only weapons the Fallschirmjäger could bring with them when they dropped, due to the folding stock and compact design. Rifles were dropped separately in a crate to be recovered as soon as possible. This was due to their tendencies to break arms when hitting the ground
@@amazingjoe3635 , to his credit he did say "one of the only weapons". Now if he was using an oft-repeated phrase with a general disregard for accurate speech. I can't tell. I want to side with the FG42. However, it was issued in 1942. Pretty much near the end of Fallschirmjaeger jumps. Most of their jumps happened between 1940-1941. Crete being the last major jump.
@@amazingjoe3635 fg42 was adopted late into the war and didn't see very many numbers. it was also expensive and complicated compared to the mp40. It also used wood and glass (optical sight), two additions to the manufacturing process the germans couldn't afford to spend the extra time and resources on, whereas the mp40/38 was pretty much all stamped sheet metal besides a few parts like the barrel
Interestingly, early war doctrines had the MP-38 and 40 mostly limited to vehicle crews, such as scout cars, where the compact design made easy to store and rapid fire compensated for the lack of weapons on the vehicle (if none were present). The little lug under the barrel is related to this. When resting the barrel on the side of a vehicle for support, such as firing from the back of a half-track, the lug would prevent the operator from accidentally pulling the weapon too far back when firing, risking the shots hitting the inside of the vehicle and causing damage from ricochets and bullet fragments.
German early wars were against Republican Spain, Gzechoslovakia, Poland, Denmark, Low countries, Norway, and France. No love lost there using the Mp38, where the opposition didn't stack up.
Then The Germans discovered the fact that for every 1 Soviet Soldier to be Armed with A Mosin , Two were armed with SMGs , a PPD-40 & a PPSH-41 , who themselves discovered what the Finns were capable to carry out with their Suomi KP/31 SMG Armed squads .
I never used a gun in my life but something about what are supposed to be veteran soldiers using a well built gun and missing everythings and dying become it's plot armour is really annoying to me. Thanks for making a good video about this. I hope you can make more like this
The MP 40 is so often used as the "baddies" weapon of choice in films especially spy films like Bond or even the British comedy "Carry on Spying". The other thing you mention was the ammunition pouches are almost always wrong on German soldiers, with rifle ammo carried in small pouches instead of the large clip pouches needed.
Same with the Panzerfaust appearing there anachronistically. I can somewhat chalk them up as early experimental testbed releases for spec-ops groups of the Wehrmacht forces there, though, just like how Return to Castle Wolfenstein gave the Korean War-era Snooper Rifle to B.J. Blazkowicz.
That holding by the magazine gives me the screaming heeebie jeebies. I'm pretty certain the standard training was to hold the weapon by the magazine-well or just behind it. However, as with all soldiers, some would hold it by the magazine instead. The same thing applies to the AK47 where there is a perfectly serviceable foregrip; but untrained users, c.f. Syrian war, grab it by the mag. In Syria, that bad habit made it to the imported Libyan FALs as well - a definite no-no.
In "rock-in" magazines (Like in the AK and FAL) holding the weapon by the magazine well is fine, as you're merely securing the magazine into the well, with straight push magazines (MP-40, Sten, AR-15) holding the weapon by the magazine causes alignment issues and wears out the catch.
@@DeltaSierra0605 I don't know about the AK, but the FAL L1A1 variant I was trained on strictly prohibited holding by the mag or resting the mag on the ground as it affects accuracy quite a lot.
@@minxythemerciless Resting it on the ground will surely mess it up because the recoil will push the rifle backwards, but holding by the mag, as long as you pull it towards you there is no problem, it's funny how it's the opposite for push in magazines.
@@DeltaSierra0605 The problem is hinge flexure when using iron sights. Any twist will shift aim. You have to hold the forestock from directly underneath in exactly the same way each time. Holding the mag magnifies any error.
One super important thing the charging handle Johnny speaks of was solely on the MP38. The MP40 had a “button” charging handle that could be pushed in when in the open position.
Not true. I have an MP-40 from 1941 that has the original metal hook style charging handle that all MP-38's and MP-40's had out of the factory up until 1942. The two position safety handle came out in late 1941, and all MP-38's and MP-40's were ordered to have that upgrade installed. Mine was taken out of circulation somehow and missed the upgrade, along with several thousand others. That makes it quite scarce among surviving MP-40's today. A German Merkblatt (memo) to have all the submachineguns in service refit by April 1942. The locking safety feature of the upgraded handle prevented the bolt from moving rearward, chambering and firing a round if the gun was dropped onto the ground, muzzle pointed up. Until then, a leather strap was ordered to be made by solders in the field comprised of a sewn or buckled loop round the barrel connected to a 10" long strap which had a hole in the end for slipping it over the hook charging handle, holding the bolt forward against the chamber face. This Sicherstrap, being made in vast numbers by solders from sling material or tornister strap, is very rare today since they were discarded once the bolts were upgraded to the new safety style lever. I have only seen pictures of two such straps surviving, and they are expensive and rare today. The strap on my gun I made myself according to instructions in the German memo.
@@dinstonsurrchill5218 It's Dutch but the series takes place in Maaskantje, in the province of North-Brabant, which borders Belgium. The dialect people have in that province is somewhat similar to that of Belgium.
German infantry squad tactics revolved around the mg-34 and mg-42. The rifleman supported the mg. Which provides the suppression fire and offensive fire power. For the riflemen to advance.
Which sounds fine for open country, but seems less than ideal for urban fighting. Having your flanking/advancing all being armed apart from squad leader with bolt actions, no thanks.
Hi Sorry. Sometimes I run into copyright issues, 18+ issues because of "war content," or sometimes I just repost due to a mistake in information. This particular issue was a copyright problem.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq quick addon to the weapon. The magazine size also served as kind of side effect, for it caused the germans who held it to have less of a cover when laying down and trying to aim
Johnny, thanks for making the effort to repost the video. You've had to do this a couple of times now, and the effort to re-do them is much appreciated. Other content creators might just leave them down, but you've made the effort to bring back your fine content. Just one nitpick...infantry are organized in squads (or sections if you're UK/British commonwealth), not squadrons. Squadron is a term for groups of aircraft, or cavalry. Easy mistake to make. Really looking forward to your next videos! I'd love to see you cover the Owen, but it'd have to be incredibly rare on film.
That's a completely fair nitpick. I've honestly edited that out a few times now as it's just a real bad habit and I don't even know where I picked it up :)
@@BrixtonTone Yes they do. They use a similar structure to armour/cavalry. I think it came from the days of riding around in jeeps, but I can't confirm that. Stirling was a former Guards officer, but he wasn't a cavalry officer.
im happy to see the video give credence to the fact that actors hip fire because its part of making the performance more visually striking as well as technical signals/cues the actors need to keep an eye out for
I've shot one before and I as genuinely surprised at how well the weapon handled. But at the same time, the Thompson was not that much different as the weight of the weapon made it very controllable.
Jerry O'Brien was a good comrade and we fought a war together. When not doing that he worked as a film extra and was a German soldier in "Eagles Dare." He told me he fired more rounds in that movie than he did in the actual war!
Seems like in Hollywood, an operator firing an MP 40 usually fires it like a big pistol, rarely using the stock. My guess is that in war the stock was almost universally used; especially if you wanted to hit something!
From what I have read, schmeiser name comes from the maker of the magazine not the weapon,mp 38 had a habit of discharging when dropped,in full auto no less ,mp40 update cured this and was cheaper and quicker to manufacture,the curious curl under the barrel was designed to allow the user to pull it back on an edge ,such as a window frame to brace against recoil,specifically a car door according to the patent.
All the guns and rifles that where used in during the war on both sides they where used very well and they can always come in handy for hunting purposes as well
I didn’t read through all of the comments so I don’t know if this was mentioned but the MP 40 also made an appearance in the original Dirty Harry movie of all places
Lee Marvin called the MP-40 a Schmeisser in The Big Red One, when they'd discovered where the self propelled artillery gun (Tiger tank in a house) was located.
I was first introduced to the mp 40 in call of duty like 16 years ago. I always thought it looked so clean and simplistic (in a positive manner). I cant speak on its real life effectiveness. But def looked cool without looking over designed. :)
After seeing a couple of those cheesy Yugoslav partisan movies, the MP40 doesn’t seem like the “evil bad-guy” gun. To me, a captured enemy MG42 or MP40 is as iconic in the hands of clandestine or partisan forces, as it is in the hands of the perfidious Teuton :D
german squads were equipped with mg 34/42 for volume of fire and grenades for up close the americans and the british didn't have whole units armed with smgs either
interesting tid bit that I believe is true but cant remember quite exactly so a grain of salt is required but if Im not mistaken the nub on the barrel of the mp40 was designed so it would have a proper place to hold the weapon against surfaces such as a kubelwagen or wall and I believe the barrels are threaded for the krummlauf
I believe that the gun featured a small claw under the barrel to facilitate it's use to help keep it in position while resting it on the edge of the crew compartment, on the back of half track for example.
I believe in the first Medal of Honor game, you can use the butt stock of any weapon to knock out enemies. Including the wire butt stock of the MP-40...
In many films I constantly notice people firing the MP40 with the stock folded. That’s why I appreciate Battlefield V having the weapon’s stock deployed
3:52 That's because actors always leave stocks folded. If a recruit did that, they'd get chewed out by their gunny. If a soldier did that, they'd get smoked by their CO. That would be the case for any firearm with a folding or collapsible stock. When they're folded or collapsed, that's considered the storage position. Also, grasping the mag as a foregrip is never an ideal technique. 4:34 But they'd never leave the stock in its storage position in combat. 5:52 In 'On Deadly Ground', Billy Bob Thornton's hapless expendable henchman character talks to his buddy about leaving the stock on his Swedish K in or out. He prefers to leave the stock folded because he thinks it feels "meaner." Of course, that's ludicrous and incompetent. In the 'FPS' episode of 'The X-Files' (from the year 2000), a VR gamer is seen intentionally folding the stock of his G36 for no reason. 6:11 Worst. Chicken-wing. Ever. 6:46 That method actually works on the MAT-49 because the mag well is encased in a foregrip. 6:58 Holding it way far down on the mag is the worst possible way to grip the mag. Pretty much guarantees feed failure. 7:44 Potential design improvements: double-stack/double-feed mags, mag well encased in a foregrip (w/heel release), and top-folding stock instead of bottom-folding stock.
I have fired the MP-38 and the 40 at MG shoots in Branson, Massachusetts, about 20 years past. Along with the major variations of the Thompson, the M3A1, etc, I can attest to their excellent handling qualities. My favorite? Well, The M1928A1 Thompson takes the cake. Love the quality, handling, feel, and the hitting power of a .45. And I'm an American, dammit.
Tommy just lifts up gently and slightly to the left. A joy chew up silhouettes at 25 yards. Wife ran a couple of mags through a bring back as well. Effortless.
My late father used a captured MP38, while serving with the British Army LRDG in North Africa. He told me it's 9mm round always got the job done. He much preferred a MP38 to a Thompson M1928A1.
Fun Fact: The construction of the MP40 influenced the StG44, the M3 Grease Gun, and the original concept of the Kalashnikov (and others) with welded stamped steel designs. Of course the MP40's service didn't end with the Surrender of German, as many weapons were sent as military to many nations by both the US and USSR. Even in Vietnam, both the RF/PF and VC forces would fire at each other with MP40s. Unfun Fact: The PPS-43 and the folding stock variants of the early Kalashnikovs (AK-47S, AKMS, and Type 56-1) uses a folding buttstock design very similar in design to that of the MP40 based on soviet experience with MP40s during the Great Patriotic War. However, the Soviets learned the lesson the Germans did, and like the Germans, didn't use the godawful design on any future weapon system.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Wish I could get this info to you before the vids go up so you can use it. I don't work on tanks or aircraft, though so you going to have to find some other nerd to do fun facts on those.
PPS is more of a bent, drilled and pinned steel rather then stamped. It was designed to be produced in either a lightly tooled garage or a factory. It's design is a general amalgamation of experience and US / German weapons (the MP40 stock being the most obvious part) It also handles somewhat better due to slow ROF and mag well being designed as a front grip. Also the mag is an extremely reliable double stack, double feed so that helps too.
at 3:04 you can see that the lady is firing one shot right under the steering weel part that had no coverage or anything that can stop or even scratch the bullet except the windshield and yet the actor still survive and yet it a straight shot to the throat
I would think one of the main reasons it appears to have a accuracy problem in films is because of who is shooting it at who. It is well known that the main chaeacters can't be hit more than once, as such the in accuracy looks even worse with a 32round capacity and fulll auto fire compred to 5 shots of bolt action from a kar 98
In the 1965s war film "Von Ryans Express" starring Frank Sinatra, there are quite a few scenes towards the end of the movie where the actors are firing the weapon full auto. However the sound effect the sound editor used for the weapon is definitely not the sound an MP40 makes. Until this day I still can't figure out which machine gun they used to dub in the sound. It has a very high rate of fire compared to the sound an MP40 makes.
Eventually. I think I'll start working on the Uzi at some point. I like to be able to tie this videos in with some history which is more my interest over just firearms. I'd like to the FN FAL soon too.
I heard the reason soldiers called it a Schmeisser was because on the early models of MP-38s the name was stamped on either the magazine or another part, I'm not sure which one
Can't hold the current-day Mp-40 by the magazine. GSG makes MP-40's today, in .22lr and 9mm. The .22lr version has a magazine with a side level to push the follower down so you can easily load ammo, but this is hard to hold while the gun is firing, as it creeps up your fingers while you grip the magazine, having to release it so the follower will go up with each succeeding shot.
It’s a great gun in Black ops 1 zombies… always at arms reach in that theatre map, cheap, fire rare a bit slow but steady. It’s just an iconic WW2 weapon whether you hate it or not.
One interesting thing is that dad brought me to any movies with guns . The first movie I remember was " Thunder ball " . Dad would have me count rounds he'd say "that's a six shooter he just shot eight times" or at that distance nobody could hit each other or " out and never reloaded and many other situations, but something I put together about Thunder ball years later. Dad was a natural and an extreme marksman. He was one of Patton's men . Dad made a comment about the M1 about how he could start shooting from the corner of a building and fire from the hip to cross a road . I always thought you're not aiming, but with his ability I think he was.and hitting. I never saw him miss and saw shots that seemed like magic. He shot a grouse that got up at his feet and went over and behind his head and he wasn't looking at it and hit it. A shot gun to him was a very simple firearm. He hunted squirrels with a revolver only and never missed. I was getting into trapp and he was giving me the basics of the shotgun . At the end he said "You know I don't know why they don't teach shooting from the hip,you know it takes too much time to get it to your shoulder and you're not aiming.". I didn't think much about it until I watched Thunder ball again. There's a scene where Conrey is asked if he could shoot trap , an A 5 is handed to Conrey and he shot doubles from the hip. Dad shot a Remington model 11. Dad never said to me that it was impossible.. I think he used that M1 like a shotgun.
Schmeisser designed the magazine and originally his name was stamped on the magazines. He did that to get royalties. That is how his name became associated with it. Vollmer designed the weapon.
I think one thing that I personally always find really fun about the MP40 is how it seems just as likely to be used against the germans as it is to be used by them. It feels a bit like something I mostly see in games like Wolfenstein but I remember Indiana Jones kinda getting in on it as well. Something just feels kinda natural about stealing an MP40 from a dead nazi and turning the chattering machine gun against its own regime.
Sorry for another repost folks. Fair use is a sticky thing. But I did add the clip from Where Eagles Dare.
No apologies necessary...anything with Richard Burton or Clint Eastwood in is ok at Clabby Towers.
All good, mate.
if you have to repost the Catalina video add the Catalina wine mixer.
@@lmccampbell lol absolutely!
Great video as always !!! Especially when there’s a clip of Where eagles dare !!! 😀
You'll usually see every German soldier in animation using these because they can't be bothered to animate them operating a bolt action.
It KINDA makes sense if its late in the war
@@Gravity_studioss not at all
@@Gravity_studioss no
@@jannisjussios5396
This’ll be my opinion, but using the MP40 in late stages in the war was more favorable and logical if you think about it, both in usage and production, with its being much easier to build with the stamped steel strategy and the thing being a fully automatic gun that is small enough to wield through buildings.
i’d say them using them in the later stages more made a lotta sense with the fact the Russians are knocking on their doorstep at Berlin.
@@yourlocalweebfriend3537 Ummm, have you seen the last ditch junker K98s they made late war, they didn't have the resources to openly mass produce any MP40s late-war, and the Germans were desperate. So if anything I think it's more the opposite, they favored them up until the war started coming to a close.
I fired a MP40 at a Machine gun shoot years ago, man it fired smooth and was very controllable even in auto.
Yep. Me too. Branson Mass MG shoot. Excellent weapon.
@@leecrt967 hell a lot better than the British Sten aka stench gun there WW2 MSG
Thank for the like who ever you r plus this shows that the 9mm isn't a poor man's 45
Don't get me wrong I own a 45 for self defense but I also own a 9mm old school Beretta too my 45 is a Springfield type 1911 my Beretta is FS model
@@jaredelizardo201well you’d sure hope so considering the Sten gun was essentially a tube of metal that didn’t require a load of complex parts to manufacture
The MP40 was also one of the only weapons the Fallschirmjäger could bring with them when they dropped, due to the folding stock and compact design. Rifles were dropped separately in a crate to be recovered as soon as possible. This was due to their tendencies to break arms when hitting the ground
"Coughs in fg42"
@@amazingjoe3635 , to his credit he did say "one of the only weapons". Now if he was using an oft-repeated phrase with a general disregard for accurate speech. I can't tell. I want to side with the FG42. However, it was issued in 1942. Pretty much near the end of Fallschirmjaeger jumps. Most of their jumps happened between 1940-1941. Crete being the last major jump.
@@amazingjoe3635 fg42 was adopted late into the war and didn't see very many numbers. it was also expensive and complicated compared to the mp40. It also used wood and glass (optical sight), two additions to the manufacturing process the germans couldn't afford to spend the extra time and resources on, whereas the mp40/38 was pretty much all stamped sheet metal besides a few parts like the barrel
@@amazingjoe3635 Yeah, they really did a lot of droppings after Crete.
@@Eralen00 but FG42 is much more powerful with longer range than the mp40, so not directly comparable i supposed?
Interestingly, early war doctrines had the MP-38 and 40 mostly limited to vehicle crews, such as scout cars, where the compact design made easy to store and rapid fire compensated for the lack of weapons on the vehicle (if none were present). The little lug under the barrel is related to this. When resting the barrel on the side of a vehicle for support, such as firing from the back of a half-track, the lug would prevent the operator from accidentally pulling the weapon too far back when firing, risking the shots hitting the inside of the vehicle and causing damage from ricochets and bullet fragments.
German early wars were against Republican Spain, Gzechoslovakia, Poland, Denmark, Low countries, Norway, and France. No love lost there using the Mp38, where the opposition didn't stack up.
Then The Germans discovered the fact that for every 1 Soviet Soldier to be Armed with A Mosin , Two were armed with SMGs , a PPD-40 & a PPSH-41 , who themselves discovered what the Finns were capable to carry out with their Suomi KP/31 SMG Armed squads .
I never used a gun in my life but something about what are supposed to be veteran soldiers using a well built gun and missing everythings and dying become it's plot armour is really annoying to me. Thanks for making a good video about this. I hope you can make more like this
The MP 40 is so often used as the "baddies" weapon of choice in films especially spy films like Bond or even the British comedy "Carry on Spying".
The other thing you mention was the ammunition pouches are almost always wrong on German soldiers, with rifle ammo carried in small pouches instead of the large clip pouches needed.
Thank god, the clips from New Kids Turbo survived
and Hitler Kaput too!
AC DC figure a lot in modern movies...Iron man 1 springs to mind...
Godverdomme mooi, Godverdomme.
@@the1111machi 😂😂
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Never knew Raiders Of The Lost Ark was a time travel movie. Story set in 1936, Germans carry MP40s.
Same with the Panzerfaust appearing there anachronistically.
I can somewhat chalk them up as early experimental testbed releases for spec-ops groups of the Wehrmacht forces there, though, just like how Return to Castle Wolfenstein gave the Korean War-era Snooper Rifle to B.J. Blazkowicz.
Even better, when Indy threatens to blow up the Ark later, he's using a RPG, which wasn't produced until the 50s...
That holding by the magazine gives me the screaming heeebie jeebies. I'm pretty certain the standard training was to hold the weapon by the magazine-well or just behind it. However, as with all soldiers, some would hold it by the magazine instead. The same thing applies to the AK47 where there is a perfectly serviceable foregrip; but untrained users, c.f. Syrian war, grab it by the mag. In Syria, that bad habit made it to the imported Libyan FALs as well - a definite no-no.
Confusing it with the STEN?
In "rock-in" magazines (Like in the AK and FAL) holding the weapon by the magazine well is fine, as you're merely securing the magazine into the well, with straight push magazines (MP-40, Sten, AR-15) holding the weapon by the magazine causes alignment issues and wears out the catch.
@@DeltaSierra0605 I don't know about the AK, but the FAL L1A1 variant I was trained on strictly prohibited holding by the mag or resting the mag on the ground as it affects accuracy quite a lot.
@@minxythemerciless Resting it on the ground will surely mess it up because the recoil will push the rifle backwards, but holding by the mag, as long as you pull it towards you there is no problem, it's funny how it's the opposite for push in magazines.
@@DeltaSierra0605 The problem is hinge flexure when using iron sights. Any twist will shift aim. You have to hold the forestock from directly underneath in exactly the same way each time. Holding the mag magnifies any error.
One super important thing the charging handle Johnny speaks of was solely on the MP38. The MP40 had a “button” charging handle that could be pushed in when in the open position.
Not true. I have an MP-40 from 1941 that has the original metal hook style charging handle that all MP-38's and MP-40's had out of the factory up until 1942. The two position safety handle came out in late 1941, and all MP-38's and MP-40's were ordered to have that upgrade installed. Mine was taken out of circulation somehow and missed the upgrade, along with several thousand others. That makes it quite scarce among surviving MP-40's today. A German Merkblatt (memo) to have all the submachineguns in service refit by April 1942. The locking safety feature of the upgraded handle prevented the bolt from moving rearward, chambering and firing a round if the gun was dropped onto the ground, muzzle pointed up.
Until then, a leather strap was ordered to be made by solders in the field comprised of a sewn or buckled loop round the barrel connected to a 10" long strap which had a hole in the end for slipping it over the hook charging handle, holding the bolt forward against the chamber face. This Sicherstrap, being made in vast numbers by solders from sling material or tornister strap, is very rare today since they were discarded once the bolts were upgraded to the new safety style lever. I have only seen pictures of two such straps surviving, and they are expensive and rare today. The strap on my gun I made myself according to instructions in the German memo.
Gotta commend you for actually having seen New Kids Turbo. It's definitely a niche Dutch classic from the early 2010's.
Its belgian isn't it? I don't know, just asking.
@@dinstonsurrchill5218 It's Dutch but the series takes place in Maaskantje, in the province of North-Brabant, which borders Belgium. The dialect people have in that province is somewhat similar to that of Belgium.
weird seeing this movie refered to a niche when it's iconic in Germany (just as New Kids generally is)
@@pobedazapadu I mean it's really a classic here too, but you don't hear many people talk about it anymore. Used to be way more popular in the 2010's.
@@pobedazapadu TURBO JONGUH!
German infantry squad tactics revolved around the mg-34 and mg-42. The rifleman supported the mg. Which provides the suppression fire and offensive fire power. For the riflemen to advance.
Which sounds fine for open country, but seems less than ideal for urban fighting. Having your flanking/advancing all being armed apart from squad leader with bolt actions, no thanks.
I understand why this was reposted. Still a great video
Why was it reposted?
Please explain why the repost
Hi Sorry. Sometimes I run into copyright issues, 18+ issues because of "war content," or sometimes I just repost due to a mistake in information. This particular issue was a copyright problem.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsqthat moment kids can't learn about their own history until they're an adult
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq quick addon to the weapon. The magazine size also served as kind of side effect, for it caused the germans who held it to have less of a cover when laying down and trying to aim
Johnny, thanks for making the effort to repost the video. You've had to do this a couple of times now, and the effort to re-do them is much appreciated. Other content creators might just leave them down, but you've made the effort to bring back your fine content.
Just one nitpick...infantry are organized in squads (or sections if you're UK/British commonwealth), not squadrons. Squadron is a term for groups of aircraft, or cavalry. Easy mistake to make.
Really looking forward to your next videos! I'd love to see you cover the Owen, but it'd have to be incredibly rare on film.
That's a completely fair nitpick. I've honestly edited that out a few times now as it's just a real bad habit and I don't even know where I picked it up :)
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Think the SAS has squadrons. each squadron is comprised of 4 "troops" each containing 16 men.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq No worries, totally understand. We all have habits we want to ditch.
@@BrixtonTone Yes they do. They use a similar structure to armour/cavalry. I think it came from the days of riding around in jeeps, but I can't confirm that. Stirling was a former Guards officer, but he wasn't a cavalry officer.
im happy to see the video give credence to the fact that actors hip fire because its part of making the performance more visually striking as well as technical signals/cues the actors need to keep an eye out for
I've shot one before and I as genuinely surprised at how well the weapon handled. But at the same time, the Thompson was not that much different as the weight of the weapon made it very controllable.
The main drawback of the Thompson was how ridiculously expensive it was to produce.
@@alltat And it wanted to climb when shot.
@@larrybrown1824 and the fact it weighed like 12 pounds LOL. Actually such an overrated gun.
I've got twice, and I agreed! Compared to the MP40, the Thompson is an anvil... Lol
The streets won't forget how god tier this was with dual mags in cod waw
Yo, There's surviving paper work of German doctrine for the MP 40 saying that it should be held by the first two fingers on the magazine well
Exactly! Keeps slop/play out of magazine thus reducing feed failures. It is found in the field manual.
I did know that.....
Exactly this is the only way it was supposed to be held, i have a blank only firing replica and allthough it's only semi it's loads of fun firing it.
Jerry O'Brien was a good comrade and we fought a war together. When not doing that he worked as a film extra and was a German soldier in "Eagles Dare." He told me he fired more rounds in that movie than he did in the actual war!
Seems like in Hollywood, an operator firing an MP 40 usually fires it like a big pistol, rarely using the stock. My guess is that in war the stock was almost universally used; especially if you wanted to hit something!
Generation War is such a good mini series, i highly recommend it
Too many mp40s. It’s not historically accurate
@@Ykywr is that supposed you to stop watching it?
@@franceboy7476 no, it just means there’s too many mp40s
From what I have read, schmeiser name comes from the maker of the magazine not the weapon,mp 38 had a habit of discharging when dropped,in full auto no less ,mp40 update cured this and was cheaper and quicker to manufacture,the curious curl under the barrel was designed to allow the user to pull it back on an edge ,such as a window frame to brace against recoil,specifically a car door according to the patent.
All the guns and rifles that where used in during the war on both sides they where used very well and they can always come in handy for hunting purposes as well
Sure, lets go hunting with submachine guns and anti tank rifles.
A m3 grease gun is a good hunting rifle?
Yeah, I killed a boar yesterday with a 50 Cal M2. The centimeter pieces of it that I was able to find tasted really good 🤣
@@lutziferproductions1885 Next time you're out you should use a ptrd, the 14.5 x 114 mm will pack a little more punch, it may solve your problem.
Lemme use my panzerfaust to hunt
I didn’t read through all of the comments so I don’t know if this was mentioned but the MP 40 also made an appearance in the original Dirty Harry movie of all places
Lee Marvin called the MP-40 a Schmeisser in The Big Red One, when they'd discovered where the self propelled artillery gun (Tiger tank in a house) was located.
I would never argue with Lee Marvin !!
I can 100% say I was not expecting Mr. Bean
just when i thought i forgot the BF V lost tiger ending you bring it right back....the feels man....the feels
It was my trusty go to in COD games. Never failed to get me out of a tough spot. Like you said worked great firing from the hip and when using sights.
I was first introduced to the mp 40 in call of duty like 16 years ago. I always thought it looked so clean and simplistic (in a positive manner). I cant speak on its real life effectiveness. But def looked cool without looking over designed. :)
Showing Mr. Bean right after Unsere Mutter was just perfect
"You Know This One" is one of my all-time favs!!
It is so funny how much footage you end up using from the movie New Kids :') Never thought I'd see it anywhere outside The Netherlands :')
New Kids is the gift that keeps on giving
New Kids was rather popular in Germany too.
Your channel is really good, you came up in my recommended and I am enjoying your vids. I will stick around ;)
Hey right on welcome to the channel!
Love to hear ' Broadsword calling Danny Boy!' Don't know the previous technical issues but worth the rematch.
This video definitely needed that clip :)
5:12 "You know this one'
A good video as always man👍
I love how there are all these super serious World War II movies, and then there are clips from Mr Bean
I couldn't hold my laughter when I saw you used clips from new kids turbo hahaaaaa amazing great lad and great videos +1 sub
New Kids Turbo for the win!
turrrrrbo jonge!
For anyone that hasn't seen Max Manus, I highly recommend it. It's about the norwegian resistance fighters, and is based on a true story :)
Thanks for sharing such videos with us.
Thanks for covering this
My most used gun in the whole COD series along with the Tommy gun 😅
I know it's a evil gun, but it's flex to use
After seeing a couple of those cheesy Yugoslav partisan movies, the MP40 doesn’t seem like the “evil bad-guy” gun. To me, a captured enemy MG42 or MP40 is as iconic in the hands of clandestine or partisan forces, as it is in the hands of the perfidious Teuton :D
I'm the bad gun... duh.
Of course, with tons of ammo lying on corpses everywhere. Once all the ammo for decent SMGs is empty :)
It's only evil if one thinks of its user instead.
movie logic:
german using german weapons: misses every shot
enemy using german weapons: hits every shot
interesting how that works
german squads were equipped with mg 34/42 for volume of fire and grenades for up close
the americans and the british didn't have whole units armed with smgs either
I love the moments where mr bean is mixed in with bloody war movies.
Hahaha, "You know this one" in the credits header. The sign of a great presenter is knowing their audience.
Dude this channel is the best
It also gives me movies to watch
Thanks so much. Hope you enjoy some of the movies! I use a lot of both good and bad movies but there are definitely some gems in there.
interesting tid bit that I believe is true but cant remember quite exactly so a grain of salt is required but if Im not mistaken the nub on the barrel of the mp40 was designed so it would have a proper place to hold the weapon against surfaces such as a kubelwagen or wall and I believe the barrels are threaded for the krummlauf
I believe that the gun featured a small claw under the barrel to facilitate it's use to help keep it in position while resting it on the edge of the crew compartment, on the back of half track for example.
8:40 Grossmutti and an MP-40! Love it!
I believe in the first Medal of Honor game, you can use the butt stock of any weapon to knock out enemies.
Including the wire butt stock of the MP-40...
Probably the most iconic weapon from WW2
In many films I constantly notice people firing the MP40 with the stock folded. That’s why I appreciate Battlefield V having the weapon’s stock deployed
Thanks Johnny .
Life is beautiful man that scene gets me every time.
3:52 That's because actors always leave stocks folded. If a recruit did that, they'd get chewed out by their gunny. If a soldier did that, they'd get smoked by their CO. That would be the case for any firearm with a folding or collapsible stock. When they're folded or collapsed, that's considered the storage position. Also, grasping the mag as a foregrip is never an ideal technique.
4:34 But they'd never leave the stock in its storage position in combat.
5:52 In 'On Deadly Ground', Billy Bob Thornton's hapless expendable henchman character talks to his buddy about leaving the stock on his Swedish K in or out. He prefers to leave the stock folded because he thinks it feels "meaner." Of course, that's ludicrous and incompetent. In the 'FPS' episode of 'The X-Files' (from the year 2000), a VR gamer is seen intentionally folding the stock of his G36 for no reason.
6:11 Worst. Chicken-wing. Ever.
6:46 That method actually works on the MAT-49 because the mag well is encased in a foregrip.
6:58 Holding it way far down on the mag is the worst possible way to grip the mag. Pretty much guarantees feed failure.
7:44 Potential design improvements: double-stack/double-feed mags, mag well encased in a foregrip (w/heel release), and top-folding stock instead of bottom-folding stock.
I have a Umarex Legends MP40 full automatic BB gun. It's alot of fun and very realistic.
Thanks for the video!!
I never thought I would see mr bean using an mp40
The StG 44 It’s not the first assault rifle but in 1915 the Fedorov Avtomat Russian assault rifle used all the way till the winter war
If you’ve watched a particular episode of Mash when they are on a bus when it breaks down, the prisoner they take surrenders an Mp-40 to frank.
I have fired the MP-38 and the 40 at MG shoots in Branson, Massachusetts, about 20 years past. Along with the major variations of the Thompson, the M3A1, etc, I can attest to their excellent handling qualities. My favorite? Well, The M1928A1 Thompson takes the cake. Love the quality, handling, feel, and the hitting power of a .45. And I'm an American, dammit.
Tommy just lifts up gently and slightly to the left. A joy chew up silhouettes at 25 yards. Wife ran a couple of mags through a bring back as well. Effortless.
Imagine NOT being in Massachusetts and shooting guns.
My late father used a captured MP38, while serving with the British Army LRDG in North Africa. He told me it's 9mm round always got the job done. He much preferred a MP38 to a Thompson M1928A1.
Never understood why in movies they never use the folding stock.
Fun Fact: The construction of the MP40 influenced the StG44, the M3 Grease Gun, and the original concept of the Kalashnikov (and others) with welded stamped steel designs. Of course the MP40's service didn't end with the Surrender of German, as many weapons were sent as military to many nations by both the US and USSR. Even in Vietnam, both the RF/PF and VC forces would fire at each other with MP40s.
Unfun Fact: The PPS-43 and the folding stock variants of the early Kalashnikovs (AK-47S, AKMS, and Type 56-1) uses a folding buttstock design very similar in design to that of the MP40 based on soviet experience with MP40s during the Great Patriotic War. However, the Soviets learned the lesson the Germans did, and like the Germans, didn't use the godawful design on any future weapon system.
I had to stretch for this one. You did very well in this brief.
Thanks so much. Stretch all you want because I'm here to learn too and greatly appreciate it.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Wish I could get this info to you before the vids go up so you can use it.
I don't work on tanks or aircraft, though so you going to have to find some other nerd to do fun facts on those.
PPS is more of a bent, drilled and pinned steel rather then stamped.
It was designed to be produced in either a lightly tooled garage or a factory.
It's design is a general amalgamation of experience and US / German weapons (the MP40 stock being the most obvious part)
It also handles somewhat better due to slow ROF and mag well being designed as a front grip.
Also the mag is an extremely reliable double stack, double feed so that helps too.
at 3:04 you can see that the lady is firing one shot right under the steering weel part that had no coverage or anything that can stop or even scratch the bullet except the windshield and yet the actor still survive and yet it a straight shot to the throat
1:30 im not sure, but i think he still craft some components like magazine
I would think one of the main reasons it appears to have a accuracy problem in films is because of who is shooting it at who. It is well known that the main chaeacters can't be hit more than once, as such the in accuracy looks even worse with a 32round capacity and fulll auto fire compred to 5 shots of bolt action from a kar 98
is nobody gonna talk about how the second timestamp is "Mr Beans Holiday"?
i love the returning cameos from ''new kids'' in theseXD
Can you make videos about rare weapons that were used in ww2
ha!! it was watching "Where Eagles Dare" as a kid which made me want an example, currently have 4
Small heads up: 6:15 is not Flame og Citron, but Max Manus
Spot on! Good catch. Little editing mistake.
In the 1965s war film "Von Ryans Express" starring Frank Sinatra, there are quite a few scenes towards the end of the movie where the actors are firing the weapon full auto. However the sound effect the sound editor used for the weapon is definitely not the sound an MP40 makes. Until this day I still can't figure out which machine gun they used to dub in the sound. It has a very high rate of fire compared to the sound an MP40 makes.
First time i saw someone use new kids as an example i love it
Amazing to fit in a clip from New Kids Turbo😂😂
Coolest machinegun in history! And it's a good one. Hilarious that movies make it out to be a huge recoil when it's almost withot recoil in real life.
My best BB gun !
Stalingrad is a much underrated film......
new kids turbo most accurate and best war movie ever
Truth
Do you consider making these types of videos on modern weapons too?
Eventually. I think I'll start working on the Uzi at some point. I like to be able to tie this videos in with some history which is more my interest over just firearms. I'd like to the FN FAL soon too.
I heard the reason soldiers called it a Schmeisser was because on the early models of MP-38s the name was stamped on either the magazine or another part, I'm not sure which one
yup magazine
Two videos of my favorite gun in history. ✌🏻gladly rewatch it
You are turning out to be one of my best supporters. I really appreciate it :)
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq you produce fantastic content into both movies and their story outside the films. Don’t see many channels do that as well as you
I'm pretty sure my introduction to the MP40 was watching Hogan's Heroes re-runs as a kid 😊
Having shot a MP40 several times it’s by far one of the most controllable full autos. Very easy to shoot very tight groups it’s very easy to control
Can't hold the current-day Mp-40 by the magazine. GSG makes MP-40's today, in .22lr and 9mm. The .22lr version has a magazine with a side level to push the follower down so you can easily load ammo, but this is hard to hold while the gun is firing, as it creeps up your fingers while you grip the magazine, having to release it so the follower will go up with each succeeding shot.
0:32 this is a good portrayal of a man's dream
As usual exellent!!!
I usually hold it up against the magwell. Stressing the mag is a bad idea.
It’s a great gun in Black ops 1 zombies… always at arms reach in that theatre map, cheap, fire rare a bit slow but steady.
It’s just an iconic WW2 weapon whether you hate it or not.
Again New Kids on the Block😂 awesome. Greetings from Holland
New kids turbo one of the best movies ever men
It was used too in new kids nitro btw
Fun fact: This gun was also used by Spiderman to mow down a group of villain scientis in Japanese Toei Spuderman.
At least none of the MP40s didn't have an everlasting magazine like in some movies.
Schmeisser made magazines for the MP40, with their name stamped on the metal.
Hugo Schmeisser was a supervisor at the Haenel plant, not a manufacturer.
One interesting thing is that dad brought me to any movies with guns . The first movie I remember was " Thunder ball " . Dad would have me count rounds he'd say "that's a six shooter he just shot eight times" or at that distance nobody could hit each other or " out and never reloaded and many other situations, but something I put together about Thunder ball years later. Dad was a natural and an extreme marksman. He was one of Patton's men . Dad made a comment about the M1 about how he could start shooting from the corner of a building and fire from the hip to cross a road . I always thought you're not aiming, but with his ability I think he was.and hitting. I never saw him miss and saw shots that seemed like magic. He shot a grouse that got up at his feet and went over and behind his head and he wasn't looking at it and hit it. A shot gun to him was a very simple firearm. He hunted squirrels with a revolver only and never missed. I was getting into trapp and he was giving me the basics of the shotgun . At the end he said "You know I don't know why they don't teach shooting from the hip,you know it takes too much time to get it to your shoulder and you're not aiming.". I didn't think much about it until I watched Thunder ball again. There's a scene where Conrey is asked if he could shoot trap , an A 5 is handed to Conrey and he shot doubles from the hip. Dad shot a Remington model 11. Dad never said to me that it was impossible.. I think he used that M1 like a shotgun.
1:53 Ah yes, the Where Mark?
(Love your videos btw)
Schmeisser designed the magazine and originally his name was stamped on the magazines. He did that to get royalties. That is how his name became associated with it. Vollmer designed the weapon.
Hey, question. How many hours did it take to manufacture MP40 submachine gun? Thank you
I think one thing that I personally always find really fun about the MP40 is how it seems just as likely to be used against the germans as it is to be used by them. It feels a bit like something I mostly see in games like Wolfenstein but I remember Indiana Jones kinda getting in on it as well. Something just feels kinda natural about stealing an MP40 from a dead nazi and turning the chattering machine gun against its own regime.