Level 15 Will Kill Clash Royale

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  • @GratzClash
    @GratzClash  Рік тому +2469

    Please subscribe!!! This channel is so close to 100k! Xbow vid coming July 1st!

    • @tearstill4685
      @tearstill4685 Рік тому +44

      You deserve the subs, gl bro

    • @CaasPeer07
      @CaasPeer07 Рік тому +21

      niceee, am definitly exicted for that video, and you deserve that 100k

    • @nezuko8432
      @nezuko8432 Рік тому +9

      I love your video

    • @nezuko8432
      @nezuko8432 Рік тому +8

      L’ets go for 100k!

    • @dnz_nl
      @dnz_nl Рік тому +7

      Goat has uploaded

  • @garfungus5172
    @garfungus5172 Рік тому +9134

    The only way they can fix this is by adding the long-awaited Poison Spirit.

    • @madflam3192
      @madflam3192 Рік тому +844

      and earthquake spirit

    • @DoodleNoodle129
      @DoodleNoodle129 Рік тому +1276

      And rocket spirit

    • @Starr_Beam
      @Starr_Beam Рік тому +735

      and tornado spirit

    • @randombrian5
      @randombrian5 Рік тому +528

      And zap spirit

    • @mikek1686
      @mikek1686 Рік тому +361

      Supercell might see this comment. Then they will think your serious. Get it? I'm calling them stupid because they are stupid.

  • @SpecRec
    @SpecRec Рік тому +826

    The problem is that Supercell doesn't understand that people want to be maxed, so they can be in a fair playing field. Just like B-rad said, what people complain about the most is facing over-leveled cards.

    • @mattr791
      @mattr791 Рік тому +21

      Players spend money to upgrade cards is the entire mtx model of cr...
      if a player is maxxed they stop paying supercell, and in an era where studios must maintain margins or get cut supercell's #1 objective is to keep the paying playerbase grinding 24/7 forever.
      Always remember from supercells pov the grind(gem shop) *IS* the game and the goal is to keep people playing that game as long as possible

    • @freakfreak786
      @freakfreak786 Рік тому +2

      being maxed is boring. nothing to do other than playing ranked. people want to collect

    • @generalyoda8325
      @generalyoda8325 Рік тому +32

      @@freakfreak786 Sure, collect for the next 5 years at a mobile game that adds a level every 1-2 years. If you really want to collect stuff just collect banners or emotes but no you want an unfair level advantage over people by wasting money.

    • @Churros_are_Overrated
      @Churros_are_Overrated Рік тому +26

      @@freakfreak786I would rather be bored and have fun in a game than get slammed every game because my opponent used his daddy’s credit card a bunch

    • @E_phil203
      @E_phil203 Рік тому +5

      ​@@freakfreak786i prefer to play game with my own skill not a in game status.

  • @sidow420
    @sidow420 Рік тому +1710

    Honestly Supercell can’t ignore this backlash from the community, let’s hope that every content creator makes a video like this

    • @cakewalk4602
      @cakewalk4602 Рік тому +44

      ​@Renko Artyom Corvo Cr player are to easy to please ig XD

    • @DoodleNoodle129
      @DoodleNoodle129 Рік тому +50

      Unless people start quitting clash Royale en mass, Supercell will ignore the backlash. They’ve done it before, and they’ll do it again. That’s probably the only reason they’re adding card evolutions, makes it look like we’re having new content to discourage people from leaving due to the awful economy changes.

    • @narayansharmag58
      @narayansharmag58 Рік тому +7

      You don't have to quit the game itself, just boycott the pass and all of their revenue will start falling which will force them to acknowledge what the community is trying to say

    • @theclosecall4095
      @theclosecall4095 Рік тому +7

      Nah, the most influencial ones got their creator codes to protect lmao
      Edit: i stand corrected. Even oj the supercell gobbler (he still is and will always be, he always pulled his punches when trying to say anything negative to supercell) was against the lvl 15 too

    • @countsudoku6305
      @countsudoku6305 Рік тому

      @@cakewalk4602 war thunder players are even easier, gaijin gave some anime shit and must stopped boycotting game xd

  • @jmks88
    @jmks88 Рік тому +742

    This is a business suit decision, not a developer decision. I can't imagine Drew and Max wanted to go through the blowback. I've no doubt that in meetings between the suits and the developers, they strongly advocated against this. But once this decision is made, the developers have to support it as the frontline person.

    • @ExtraThiccc
      @ExtraThiccc Рік тому +66

      That's the thing I hate about corporate suits, they never face the backlash on the shit they did

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 11 місяців тому +12

      They are the community managers not the lead devs so they’re not making the choices

  • @lixithemilitarycat8050
    @lixithemilitarycat8050 Рік тому +1431

    To be fair, just adding a new card every month would have been perfect. It provides new content, new meta and new ways of enjoying the games mechanics. The early days of Clash Royale truly was the perfect moment to play the game because of this.

    • @darkpaul1uxgaming269
      @darkpaul1uxgaming269 Рік тому +103

      I wish they instead tried to milk game by adding new type of ladder, that had 5 arena towers or no arena tower and only king tower, whole arena was larger and it was night themed, like builder base, you could only use "Night" cards, which would be enraged barbarian, sneaky archer, etc. Imagine new cards with fancy powers, every 5 level would upgrade abilities instead of stats etc. I would love that.

    • @jayzerbeam9733
      @jayzerbeam9733 Рік тому +4

      @@darkpaul1uxgaming269cool idea

    • @Zondels
      @Zondels Рік тому +15

      Well it is a mobile game you play when you have literally nothing else to do. I don't know why it is such a big deal for some.

    • @swagy_gaming4745
      @swagy_gaming4745 Рік тому +8

      @@Zondels some of us actually enjoy the game and would love to grind it if it was actually grindable

    • @thetoxicraptorz3482
      @thetoxicraptorz3482 Рік тому +2

      ​@@ZondelsWhy are you here then?

  • @Cassapphic
    @Cassapphic Рік тому +2119

    This absolutely feels like what you see in a lot of f2p/gacha games of, as in any game, the playerbase will naturally decrease over time, so to keep revenues consistent or even rising to please investors, you have to keep squeezing harder on those players who stick around, which will cause some to feel priced out of the game and leave, furthering the cycle.

    • @tusharkanwaria267
      @tusharkanwaria267 Рік тому +68

      I feel everyone at supercell being already millionaires want to retire and sit on that fat cash milking the game as much as possible

    • @LuxEternis
      @LuxEternis Рік тому +87

      This feels even worse than some gachas. Genshin Impact is an example which is much more f2p friendly than CR, and that's kind of sad tbh, that a gacha game is more f2p friendly than a live-action dueling game

    • @Coolaquatic
      @Coolaquatic Рік тому +31

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@bian7744Not only can you beat gacha games with weaker characters but you can also save up whatever items you use to obtain characters for when there is one better character then start spamming with what you’ve collected over the past few weeks/months you’ve been waiting. You don’t need every character, you only need a few. Just don’t try to be a completionist

    • @LordOverSpace
      @LordOverSpace Рік тому +5

      @@LuxEternis there is no pvp in genshin, so its not comparable

    • @LuxEternis
      @LuxEternis Рік тому +24

      @@LordOverSpace That's true. But even if you went full whale mode to C6 every playable 5 star character (to clarify for those that don't play Genshin, C6 means you need 7 copies of the character. On average, that takes 150 wishes for 1 character), it's be CHEAPER than getting every card in clash royale to lvl 15, which is ridiculous.
      It also creates an unfair advantage for massive spenders, whereas genshin doesn't have this problem because as you mentioned, no pvp.

  • @derpinic335
    @derpinic335 Рік тому +1035

    I love the ending, "I don't think it can get much worse".
    Then today they announced they're replacing the gems in masteries and with a pitiful amount of gold. Just when you think the hole can't get any bigger, SuperCell just keeps digging...

    • @Luna-mo4bp
      @Luna-mo4bp Рік тому +113

      I do not know how It's possible to fuck up so many times

    • @Churros_are_Overrated
      @Churros_are_Overrated Рік тому +99

      Wait Fr? That has to be proof that they are deciding to kill the game off and wanna squeeze money out of it. They do have some popular games like clash mini to try and replicate it considering the combat is similar and the devs care about that game

    • @mahdigharanli
      @mahdigharanli Рік тому +18

      They are the most greedy company i have seen in my life

    • @jacobfurnish7450
      @jacobfurnish7450 Рік тому +29

      @@mahdigharanli not as bad as blackrock

    • @TheMithrilGuy
      @TheMithrilGuy Рік тому +15

      @@mahdigharanli No company can be more greedy than Niantic

  • @darkstryller
    @darkstryller Рік тому +29

    i had metioned the new update to my brother and he said that clash royale is in the overwatch spiral.
    this spiral follows these steps:
    1) lose players and income.
    2) launch an update to get money from your players.
    3) get a huge backlash.
    4) repeat the cycle.

  • @Winter-nb8lj
    @Winter-nb8lj Рік тому +225

    As a person who just recently hit lvl 14 on a ton of cards it was super exciting! The thought of having max cards kept me going and made me want to use different and new decks, now that lvl 15 is added the devs are forcing me to focus on 1 deck again as I need high lvl cards to compete. But with how long the road is for 15 is not exciting but just overwhelming making me not even wanna play anymore :(
    Note: I’ve been playing since global and seen all the ups and downs but I’ve never really considered to stop playing until now

    • @G0of_Ball
      @G0of_Ball Рік тому +5

      I been playing since before season pass 1
      I loved the updates and hated some but things like this just makes the game go downhill
      Ima watch and see if they do any better to the update 😕

    • @supremekaipureevil
      @supremekaipureevil 9 місяців тому

      I been playing for years but now I am genuinely looking to quit because of level 15

    • @starman1009
      @starman1009 7 місяців тому

      you’re old unc

  • @TheGamingEmpireYT
    @TheGamingEmpireYT Рік тому +522

    You know it's bad when a level takes more progression than all the other card levels from lvl 1-15. Good to see you and other CR creators speaking out to this update.

    • @Safineya
      @Safineya Рік тому

      Just stop crying about lvl 15 and whip out your credit card. As if y'all can't afford something like that. Just stop bitching and give supercell more moneyyyyy.

    • @Christopher_Crimps
      @Christopher_Crimps Рік тому +18

      They really hit us with that RuneScape energy

    • @ReXiRa787
      @ReXiRa787 Рік тому +4

      I'm guessing you meant lvl 1-14

  • @sir_irrelevant
    @sir_irrelevant Рік тому +741

    Good to see all the youtubers doing the right thing and protesting against level 15 and these cheap tricks like "no gold" that sound good on the surface but are actually terrible for the players
    You guys are the closest we have to supercell and they will much more likely listen to you then us so maybe it could have an impact and help the game

    • @mikek1686
      @mikek1686 Рік тому +9

      But it isn't all youtubers. I think we should nudge some of them but not harass.

    • @hell1942
      @hell1942 Рік тому +3

      ​@@mikek1686 exactly, and it appears that the majority of the player base is young so they might resort to harassing the ytbers/devs which is a horrible way to have your opinion heard

    • @link-cq2wx
      @link-cq2wx Рік тому +2

      Why does this sound familiar wait "good to see (gamers youtubers streamers redditors minecraftians robloxians people that use discord and more) disagree with (insert random app or game) because IT LITERALLY HAS THE MOST BADDEST UPDATE EVER [example: pay to win, makes scams easier]
      Or OMG THE (insert person) GOT EXPOSED FOR (insert random downright bad stuff) its good to see them (insert them doing bad stuff to person because he did random downright bad stuff)"
      I'm not mocking you this is happening to everything apologies
      And my information is probably outdated anyways

    • @enashimo
      @enashimo Рік тому +13

      ​@@link-cq2wx what

    • @link-cq2wx
      @link-cq2wx Рік тому +2

      @@enashimo hello nice to meet you i am insane af so im insane af because im insane becaduse irtm tam so fconfused erhfelp

  • @SirSaizo
    @SirSaizo 10 місяців тому +17

    6:50 "No extra content behind level 15"
    That aged just wonderfully.

    • @erdemcelik998
      @erdemcelik998 6 місяців тому

      What happened

    • @SirSaizo
      @SirSaizo 6 місяців тому +3

      @@erdemcelik998 Locking the second evolution slot behind lvl 15

    • @thepotassiumgamer2137
      @thepotassiumgamer2137 3 місяці тому

      ​@@SirSaizonow it's on level 11

  • @joffles6516
    @joffles6516 Рік тому +7

    I can’t believe I spent forever getting my deck to level 14 and now I have to get 400000 cards and I can’t even get them from requesting cards in my clan

  • @BlearyBox
    @BlearyBox Рік тому +45

    Now after this video got published, clash Royale removed gems from masteries and put gold instead, and their excuse was "players needs gold more than gems"
    First they used the gold as an excuse to add elite levels, and now they're using to remove THE ONLY RELIABLE WAY TO GET GEMS
    This is ridiculous

  • @xRyqn
    @xRyqn Рік тому +455

    I can’t understand for the life of me how supercell don’t realise this. So many creators are saying that lvl 15 is a terrible idea and they know the game better than anyone. I get they want money but what’s the use in losing half the community for a bit of immidiate cash?

    • @myrusEW
      @myrusEW Рік тому +71

      Immediate cash.

    • @rzh3518
      @rzh3518 Рік тому +17

      Immediate clash (update)

    • @IrishRaz213
      @IrishRaz213 Рік тому +64

      Cuz they imagine the players that they dont scare off with the new monetization as paypigs, and paypigs and whales are the only type of cr players that the upper management has ever cared about in the first place. As the game gets older, player counts shrink, but greedy businessmen never get less greedy, only more

    • @perseperse1237
      @perseperse1237 Рік тому

      A bit of cash😭

    • @viniciusgoulart5077
      @viniciusgoulart5077 Рік тому +7

      It probably also has to do with keeping the game's stocks always increasing, which incentivizes SuperCell to make changes to make a quick buck rather than changes with long lasting positive effects

  • @anglespoggle
    @anglespoggle Рік тому +265

    as someone who isn’t anywhere near max level I can say this was a huge eye opener, I really thought level 15 was gonna be a good thing but this explained so clearly that it isn’t..

    • @Luna-mo4bp
      @Luna-mo4bp Рік тому +42

      Whenever they released the exchange rates for Elite Cards it had my jaw absolutely to the floor.
      All I saw when it came out was people praising the update when they couldn't see the clear cash-grab of the entire thing. Literal sheeps.

    • @Franceee___
      @Franceee___ Рік тому +3

      That’s exactly what they want u to believe, since most of the fanbase is not maxed out yet

  • @olivers.7821
    @olivers.7821 Рік тому +107

    You should never hate voicing your critic! Everyone should be vocal about things that are an issue instead of silencing themselves over the problems existence.

  • @boynextdoor931
    @boynextdoor931 4 місяці тому +5

    1years later and this video still stands, lvl 15 lead to huge player loss.

  • @mr_alberto2768
    @mr_alberto2768 Рік тому +183

    Their reasoning for removing the gold for lvl 15 was basically: "Oh so this is awful, so lets make it as awful or even more, but just in a different way"

    • @theclosecall4095
      @theclosecall4095 Рік тому +11

      Bruh they literally thought "oh lvling cards are a slow burn and painful so lvl 15 gonna be even slower burn to make it better". What the fuck lmao

  • @Domnom22
    @Domnom22 Рік тому +507

    On one hand, lots of other games would kill for the kind of developer outreach and transparency that CR has, but because of that it's the community's responsibility to make their voices heard to make this game the best it can be. It's really important to make these kinds of videos so the devs can make a great game instead of turning it into micro transaction hell.

    • @eliteknight2137
      @eliteknight2137 Рік тому +24

      Every supercell game is pay to win packed with microtransactions shit. And clash royale was it from the 2016 release, now it's just staff and ceo getting more and more greedy

    • @genodedemon5109
      @genodedemon5109 Рік тому +12

      Honestly it already feels like a micro transaction hell. I've been seeing non-stop offers in my shop for months now. It's absolutely insane how often I see them at this point. It used to be once in a while I would see a really good offer but they weren't constantly in my shop like they are nowadays.

    • @eliteknight2137
      @eliteknight2137 Рік тому +14

      @@genodedemon5109 Just leave it and play something else. Trust me in the long run this game is more expensive then smoking 10 cigarettes per day and just as toxic

    • @shaan__real
      @shaan__real Рік тому +3

      Ive always praised cr for their transparency and community support, especially with me coming from the smash bros melee scene which is basically the opposite if transparency and community support, but now even i cant defend this

    • @sebastian4933
      @sebastian4933 Рік тому

      ​​@@eliteknight2137 the app store has gone bad. I quit searching for a new game... it seems CR isn't the only one with the idea
      99% of games make you pay or are riddled with ads. I can't find a single good f2p anymore

  • @Raregere
    @Raregere Рік тому +290

    I appreciate that the clash creators like boss, brad, and now you are speaking out for the community. I quit the game 2 months ago but I still keep up with the community hoping for the game to be in a better state.

    • @kam_dude
      @kam_dude Рік тому +4

      I quit the game when they added the banners and stuff which was like idk but I have been keeping up with the game

    • @abgeluxxt
      @abgeluxxt Рік тому

      ​@@kam_dude same

    • @Pieceofdatoast
      @Pieceofdatoast Рік тому +4

      I stopped when the new season pass came out. Play barely but I hope this game doesn't die.

    • @yahiaaymankamaly3518
      @yahiaaymankamaly3518 Рік тому

      I quit when path of legends turned into draft

    • @oneboxboi1091
      @oneboxboi1091 Рік тому +1

      Y’all just now quitting I left that game in early 2022

  • @palool6
    @palool6 Рік тому +10

    I recently found this channel after getting back into the game this week. And I'd already thought that the addition of level 14 was a problem. So seeing them add yet another level feels REALLY bad. Specially with the nerfed progression. Ladder and clan wars get more and more painful than they originally were because these are actually months or even years added of extra progression grind to a f2p

  • @Yo_AB_Breaks
    @Yo_AB_Breaks Рік тому +6

    Just subbed man. Thank you for keeping it real. I had a sinking feeling a few years ago when they started pumping micro transactions that it was the beginning of the end. Maybe not the end of Clash Royale, just the end of a reasonable balance between player satisfaction and profits. The last two updates alone are such a massive swing in the wrong direction that it seems they're committed to putting a brick on the gas pedal of micros they don't much care about balance at all now. I have no idea if there's a way for fans to get them to stop. That doesn't mean it's not worth the fight anyway. Thanks for being one of the voices with a platform speaking for likely quite a few of us who are sick of SC's current path.

  • @franpschorr3646
    @franpschorr3646 Рік тому +77

    Felt really good when I got my first deck maxed out late last year. Not only did it stop people from having a level advantage on me but I also was able to get away with some cheating interactions do to level differences. For example my max princess wouldn’t die to an under level log. It’s going to feel BS again if interactions like that feel almost permanent in high level ladder.

    • @Khang-kw6od
      @Khang-kw6od Рік тому +12

      Why are you going against players with log level that can't kill your princess 💀you've grown to become your worst enemy

    • @cat_goes_meow139
      @cat_goes_meow139 Рік тому +1

      Deadass 💀

    • @franpschorr3646
      @franpschorr3646 Рік тому +3

      @@Khang-kw6od it doesn’t happen very often anymore as I’ve climbed to low 6k trophies but I maxed out princess pretty early and could consistently survive logs with her. She’s a much better card when you can’t get a -1 elixir trade off of log.

    • @GK-bt6fr
      @GK-bt6fr Рік тому +5

      @@franpschorr3646she’s an op card when she doesn’t die to log, and a fair one when she does. They balanced the game around same levels, so when the main counter to a card becomes useless against that card there’s a main problem

    • @jayzerbeam9733
      @jayzerbeam9733 Рік тому

      @@Khang-kw6od mean it happens sometimes in clan wars to me. There’s nothing you can really do about it; it’s not like I’m gonna give away the win or anything though. I’ll take a free win if I can get one (I grind path of legends and challenges so I’m used to higher level gameplay and if I can get an advantage I take it lol

  • @Felix-gv8le
    @Felix-gv8le Рік тому +248

    I also found out they're removing the gems from the mastery for gold. Seems like a bad choice when there's other methods you could impliment to get gold instead of just removing something that was useful

    • @LittleDarkOne_
      @LittleDarkOne_ Рік тому +36

      Are you kidding me

    • @Ay-2077
      @Ay-2077 Рік тому +13

      WHAT

    • @Flave44
      @Flave44 Рік тому +58

      and the gold is so shit....25k gold is the maximum one for a champion...imagine you play the game for hours grinding a card just for 25k gold ... the gems were useful for grand challenges or tournaments(or emotes/banners) ... L change in my opinion.. Hope they revert it

    • @nobody.7.10.7
      @nobody.7.10.7 Рік тому +1

      Sadly no look at the patch notes

    • @inv_hana
      @inv_hana Рік тому +5

      Not all of them. The first one of 150 stay. The ones of 300 and 450 get converted in gold

  • @Cr0w1997
    @Cr0w1997 Рік тому +30

    Thank you for making these interesting CR videos! It really helped out cause all the info was confusing at first :D

  • @edgardoperez4829
    @edgardoperez4829 Місяць тому +1

    8:40 i enjoy new levels. in any and most games i like leveling up. however, i am by no means an active CR player, so im not sure what its like for max players, but i do indeed like seeing higher numbers lol. youre videos are amazing and are what make me want to play CR again, i just wanted to add that feedback
    im not defending SC here tho, as youve explained, this level 15 system is wack af, im still trying to relearn the game after not playing for a few years
    love your vids man, keep it up!

  • @nouche
    @nouche Рік тому +79

    I think the worst part about this is the issue of gold. Sure this doesn’t cost any, but by removing the gold we used to get from overflowing cards, they are actually SLOWING down progression for anyone who still isn’t fully at level 14.

    • @KogasaTatara514
      @KogasaTatara514 Рік тому +6

      That.. Couldn't be farther from the truth. They tripled the amount of gold you get from most sources. I'm not one to defend supercell, but going from level 1 to 14 is easier than it's ever been now. I suppose it has the biggest impact with legendaries, but let's be honest, if you have max level legendaries, you probably don't have much upgrading left to do. That bit of overflow gold really doesn't come out to a net loss considering what has been buffed.

    • @nouche
      @nouche Рік тому +7

      @@KogasaTatara514 : Max level Champions (obtained through the books of books we can’t really get anymore) made it a huge boost to progression. A few times a month, I’d get a chest with a Champion, giving me a whopping 40,000 gold. That ain’t negligible.

    • @KogasaTatara514
      @KogasaTatara514 Рік тому +1

      @@nouche a few times a month you get 40k? In the past few days I've made over 200k gold just by playing. No maxed champions needed. Hell, mine are all level 11 minus the golden knight, at 12.

    • @nouche
      @nouche Рік тому +3

      @@KogasaTatara514 : Mine are all level 14 except the Golden Knight, at 13… and that still annoys me. What sources did you get the 200k from in a few days?

    • @KogasaTatara514
      @KogasaTatara514 Рік тому

      @@nouche almost entirely chests. I just came back to the game after about a year of being gone. Got a bunch of these gold crate things that gave up to about 30k each (speeding some up with keys I had from when I left last time, others I let go naturally with the unlock speed boost), got a big chunk of the pass completed, played a few challenges, and completed a bunch of masteries in the 7x elixir mode. That's most of it, I think.

  • @lopol8220
    @lopol8220 Рік тому +109

    so sad to see the game die like this

    • @dexnacorn
      @dexnacorn Рік тому +11

      haha eg bo (i am coping with the pain of lvl 15 by laughing at eg bo)

    • @choc91
      @choc91 Рік тому +4

      shuddup

    • @dexnacorn
      @dexnacorn Рік тому +10

      @@choc91 he's right doe do you like grinding for 15 years for a max collection???

  • @nicoallen1738
    @nicoallen1738 Рік тому +394

    EVERYONE DO NOT UPGRADE YOUR CARDS TO LEVEL 15! Supercell will only listen if their “data” shows that we don’t like leveling up cards, so we have to band together and show them that this isn’t the way. They need to add more useful, fun, unique features to keep this game alive, not shitty cash grabs and pointless features. Shoutout to all creators taking stand for the game we all love.

    • @RandooGaming
      @RandooGaming Рік тому +55

      That is just their stupid justification, they will find another "reason"

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Рік тому +31

      They will benefit though, you're fodder for people who upgrade it to 15 and get that advantage.
      People will recommend the game because a lot of people refuse to hit 15 but if you hit it you'll have an advantage and fun time. Especially the whales who are even encouraged by their now advantage against you.

    • @JustAViewer44
      @JustAViewer44 Рік тому +7

      Let's go B-Rad.

    • @astroze4319
      @astroze4319 Рік тому

      @@Buglin_Burger7878 it's gonna be a long time for them to get a level 15 card tho, and it's just one. B-rad calculated it would take almost 2 months to get one level 15 card.

    • @VYNYL_Music
      @VYNYL_Music Рік тому +9

      @@Buglin_Burger7878that’s the problem, lvl 15 is a problem because of how long the grind takes and how disadvantaged people are against those who spend, which again brings up Supercell’s core problems of their game products, Cash Grabs. This is why I left this game at the beginning of 2023 after 7 full years of playing this game because the company can never seem to understand the fact that many people like myself don’t have the money to spend every time in every little thing, that goes from major benefits to a loss on everything. As a matter of fact, it’s just not worth it no matter what the price is, the fact they plan on doing this just to get more money is sickening.

  • @NayVeCR
    @NayVeCR Рік тому +96

    This is the best update ever! I can’t wait for it to come out and start having so much fun being underleveled and getting destroyed on ladder

    • @nerfjanetreal
      @nerfjanetreal Рік тому +20

      playing against up to 2+ leveled players is something im good at

    • @_rivlin_4947
      @_rivlin_4947 Рік тому +8

      SO TRUE

    • @mustafaLY2631
      @mustafaLY2631 Рік тому

      @@nerfjanetreal Evolution usually give cards about 30-40% boost which is about 3-4 levels

    • @bluedragon_rl
      @bluedragon_rl Рік тому

      @@mustafaLY2631 It isn't locked behind level 15, so once they get one evo card they're good for that part.

  • @m3morizes
    @m3morizes Місяць тому +3

    Easy solution: For any cards received when that card is level 14 (or maxxed), you get wild cards instead. You can progress the same level 14 card you received in the chest, or decide to level up other cards. For example, you open a giant chest and get 30 giants, but your giant is level 14, so it gives you a choice (kind of like the lightning chests), of whether to add those 30 giant cards to your level 14 giant, or to convert them to 30 rare wild cards to be used on some other rare card. If your giant is completely maxxed at level 15, it would automatically convert the 30 giant cards into 30 rare wild cards. Done. It still gives us a more passive feeling to maxxing out your cards, and makes the last stretch of the grind less stressful rather than more. Still a grind, of course, and more expensive than the previous level, but less stressful and depressing.

  • @warnocity3633
    @warnocity3633 Рік тому +4

    Hey, Dead Cells Shop theme! Nice!
    I think you make a lot of good points. Since watching your videos, I've been considering picking up the game again, but I haven't played for nearly 3 years and I'm now really behind in card levels. Now that they're adding another whole level, I don't really want to get to that grind to get back to the upper ranks.
    It seems completely superfluous and I'm sure that they could have come up with something else to grind for

  • @vkplayz0
    @vkplayz0 Рік тому +40

    I love how all content creators on youtube - whether popular or not - are still standing up and being the voice of the community! Keep up the great work, gratz!

  • @fakepodcast2053
    @fakepodcast2053 Рік тому +34

    Hopefully this video plus the community response helps supercell realise what they are actually doing to the game

  • @ad007xd2
    @ad007xd2 Рік тому +203

    I hope this doesn't get added

  • @wutwhy9898
    @wutwhy9898 8 місяців тому +4

    7:00 they stated that they won't be locking anything behind level 15, now you need it for 2 evolution slot... great

    • @blueboarder
      @blueboarder Місяць тому

      Now the 2nd evo slot has moved to King Level 11

  • @smileitzfudead7506
    @smileitzfudead7506 Рік тому +30

    The issue for me is the lack of new cards… they have so much potential and different interactions that can spice up the game

  • @mt2r-music
    @mt2r-music Рік тому +42

    It’s insane that this isn’t just bad but will literally KILL the game. I’ve been an active player for over 7 years and I’ve never seen such a bad move from supercell. And they did a lot of bad things.

    • @shinichikudo5351
      @shinichikudo5351 Рік тому

      Level 15 is a nice idea. I'm like a maxed player except for two champions and i have literally nothing to upgrade anymore. They just need to lower the required cards to upgrade a card. It should have been 20k for just each card, not 50k.

  • @civicmimiv
    @civicmimiv Рік тому +31

    Imagine if the game was so fun and enjoyable as 3d animations made for it

  • @khaoz3943
    @khaoz3943 Рік тому +16

    Gratz, i love your vids, i used to be a clash of clans almost max level player and almost max level player in clash royale and i love seeing progression vids. You take adequate care of the multitudes of perspectives and objective measures in these vids and i appreciate that. Keep up the good work man👏👌

  • @danspals7243
    @danspals7243 Рік тому +2

    Also why is no one talking about the mastery change? Clash royal is literally taking gems away from mastery and putting gold in, when literally you don’t even need gold for level 15. Great for slowing progression.

  • @needlesszzz1565
    @needlesszzz1565 Рік тому +3

    Man they just had to have evolutions behind 100 bucks, shame on supercell.

  • @akkegaming
    @akkegaming Рік тому +4

    This is the same thing as I tought! Thanks for making this video! Hopefully Supercell sees this and will change this in the next update. Hyping for the X-bow vid!

  • @crongusclips7836
    @crongusclips7836 Рік тому +15

    Big respect to Gratz and all the other UA-camrs who are speaking out against this, I was ok with the update for losers cuz it didn’t affect gameplay, but this new update isn’t a good sign

  • @nobody.7.10.7
    @nobody.7.10.7 Рік тому +11

    Also something really bad is that you don't get gems from masteries anymore

  • @Haephasto
    @Haephasto Рік тому +3

    I stopped playing when level 14 was introduced. Sometimes I boot the game up again, am instantly disappointed to see what it has become and quit again after a few rounds.

  • @TheDoctor1715
    @TheDoctor1715 Рік тому +37

    It looks like a pretty rough situation coming from an outside perspective. Seeing how much your devs communicate is probably a pretty good sign for you guys so i hope all this community outrage gets them to listen and make changes for you guys. I will say coming from an old Overwatch fan be cautious though, our devs once did genuinely give af about us, but thanks to corporate and investors now they still care, but they only really care about the whales now. Again not saying supercell is blizzard by any means, but it's happened to a lot of us f2p gamers so just be careful you know?

    • @victor.n8460
      @victor.n8460 Рік тому +6

      I say the same in GTA online
      Those who are in charge now are the investors and their will must be done whether the developers and the players like it or not

    • @JS-nd1po
      @JS-nd1po Рік тому +2

      Which the only solution is to not spend at all, not even a dime.

    • @TheDoctor1715
      @TheDoctor1715 Рік тому

      @@JS-nd1po Correct, but everyone, or at least the vast majority has to be on board to do so

  • @rafeekhan4265
    @rafeekhan4265 Рік тому +9

    All your videos are so well crafted and enjoyable
    Keep up the good work
    I hope you do a video on bridge spam someday

  • @Crowzonya
    @Crowzonya Рік тому +14

    I honestly feel bad for those who r casual players that’ll take their lives getting their cards max lvl again is such a grind.
    Anywho keep it up with the content I have been rewatching ur videos over and over and it gives me interest from the evolution of theses cards of how they used to be + I’m a CoC & CR who used to played.
    Hope u’ll reach 100k subs ✨

    • @CharaDreemurr_Undertale
      @CharaDreemurr_Undertale Рік тому

      Fuck the 15th level man, the game was doomed when they made party 1v1 games to be locked at lvl 11

    • @Angelsb-ball22
      @Angelsb-ball22 Рік тому

      That would be me… been playing since the prime days of Clash royal now I feel like they just want money I’m lvl 14 and this lvl 15 crap is not making me wanna play because it’s literally so unfair lvl 14 vs lvl 15 cards is crazy takes an eternity

  • @Bobe9r4
    @Bobe9r4 Рік тому +4

    8:03 aged like fine wine

  • @timgrootbruinderink6279
    @timgrootbruinderink6279 Рік тому +2

    The only way they can fix this is by adding the long-awaited Freezer

  • @jayceisking
    @jayceisking Рік тому +2

    Yup. I’m not playing anymore. I’m completely max, 4 mil in my vault. Now I’m never gonna be max again. 7 years of grind for what😢.

  • @chicosburner8208
    @chicosburner8208 Рік тому +3

    Funny how they highlight level 15 as being a more passive progression system that will take time rather than resources when you can literally buy 50,000 elite wild cards in the shop right now....Insane how supercell is becoming more and more money hungry over the years rather than actually listening to their community and player base.

  • @ztpropus
    @ztpropus Рік тому +8

    16:21 aged like milk

  • @orange_turtle3412
    @orange_turtle3412 Рік тому +6

    This whole system is, by far, the most pay-to-win thing supercell has ever done. Your choices here are to quite literally play the game nonstop for years, or pay a VERY hefty total price. This company is seriously starting to make EA look affordable and consumer-friendly.

  • @thomas.poggers842
    @thomas.poggers842 Рік тому +2

    Congrats on 100k you deserve it, the content you post is on another level :D

  • @tederino47
    @tederino47 Рік тому +1

    Got a clash Royale ad while watching this.
    Truly though, everything they’ve done is so sad and that’s why I decided to leave, despite being a player since 2016.

  • @chiller99
    @chiller99 Рік тому +8

    "The update for losers will kill clash royale, card evolutions will kill clash royale, level 15 will kill clash royale." The truth is that even though all of these updates are very much disliked by a lot of people, people will eventually get tired of complaining and will become used to the changes, which is exactly what supercell wants and plans.

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Рік тому

      It is the exact same thing we see in Call of Duty and same bull excuses.

    • @theclosecall4095
      @theclosecall4095 Рік тому

      Sadly i do think that is the reality in the end

    • @theclosecall4095
      @theclosecall4095 Рік тому

      Sadly i do think that is the reality in the end

    • @devonszpot
      @devonszpot Рік тому

      Idk man most of my homies that have been playing for years haven’t opened the game since the “update for losers” it absolutely killed casual play

  • @jojobizadTRASH
    @jojobizadTRASH Рік тому +7

    Yeah, it's kind of strange that elite would have no connection to evolution. They should've just focused on evolutions because that's the only upgrade that makes a huge difference, and it only applies to a few cards right now.
    I do hope they back out of level 15 or change it in a way to make it WAY easier than initially.

  • @gaidencastro9706
    @gaidencastro9706 Рік тому +7

    You know it's bad when Gratz uploads twice in one week

  • @thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn3972
    @thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn3972 Рік тому +1

    It's hilarious the way that they still claim that people want level 15 even tho during their most recent Livestream, the chat was just filled with "we don't want/need level 15"

  • @dee6349
    @dee6349 Рік тому +1

    I don’t even play Clash Royale, but there’s just something about Your content that keeps me and many others watching you, keep going your content is Great and can’t wait to see what card or thing you cover next

  • @treebolne9910
    @treebolne9910 Рік тому +3

    My sisters wedding: 😴
    Clash royales downfall: 👨🏼‍💼

  • @JustOneRandomKid
    @JustOneRandomKid Рік тому +3

    Your videos are just too chill and cool :)

  • @kirbothememe
    @kirbothememe Рік тому +5

    As I said under multiple videos, I think they could do the same thing as CoC with new levels to make "content", which is a very weak way to do it as in CoC you don't have only new building levels, but new troops, super troops and more fire capacity and defense, which balances the whole thing. You only have to grind a bit to go from broke to full, especially with events. But CR is far from CoC. cards are way expensive and you can't grind that easily. Progression is super slow, so adding a new level just makes it unfair for new players

  • @Coraledge
    @Coraledge Рік тому +2

    I agree. Brawl Stars released an update where they made 49 gem skins 79 gems to simplify stuff, but warned the playerbase a week before

  • @potatoes3513
    @potatoes3513 Рік тому +1

    why is there levels in clash royale i still don’t know. Every new level adds 0 content and i don’t see how supercell can actually think people like upgrading cards for the shit of it

  • @cooperconnolly6425
    @cooperconnolly6425 Місяць тому +4

    1 year later I still don’t even have 20000 :(

  • @andrei-TM-
    @andrei-TM- Рік тому +4

    3:21 this aged like milk

  • @aac2500
    @aac2500 Рік тому +17

    Another reason level 16 is definitely coming; It’s in the game. Remember when the mirror got the +2 levels buff? They had to code level 16 in for all cards (minus champions and the mirror itself). It’s almost 100% in the game code already, so why waste it when you can use it to rip off the players again?

    • @ruanvenoom
      @ruanvenoom Рік тому +1

      level 18 is also in the game

    • @antoninocampo9365
      @antoninocampo9365 Рік тому

      ​@@ruanvenoom true😢

    • @ish_
      @ish_ Рік тому +8

      Tf are you on about, lol. A “level” is super easy to just code recursively, since it’s just a flat 10% stat boost. Technically, they could add lvl 20 with just as much work as lvl 16 would take.

  • @ungeflurmeltowo
    @ungeflurmeltowo Рік тому +1

    I dont realy comment often so u know that i realy want u know that this critic is realy good and help full and most needed.!

  • @orelerakihacohen4002
    @orelerakihacohen4002 Рік тому +1

    after the previous bad updates I decided that after playing this game for almost 6 years it's a time for me to quit.
    I still love this game very much and want to play it, but when we see that the devs doesn't care for their users, and literly lie and deceive them, I lost my trust in them.

  • @erlingurhjaltason9715
    @erlingurhjaltason9715 Рік тому +3

    i think the devs know the game is dying inevitably to they just want to grind out as much bucks as they can before the game is totally dead, they are even worse than goblins

  • @Poe_cr
    @Poe_cr Рік тому +5

    Love that the community is fighting this nonsense! Stay strong💪

  • @HHPYE42
    @HHPYE42 Рік тому +5

    this is honestly my favorite video discussing the update ive seen so far. i agree with absolutely everything said here

  • @edagupiano
    @edagupiano Рік тому

    Thanks for voicing out our opinion, Gratz.
    Same like Brad, Crusher21 and BossCR, you are brave enough to tell supercell upright that this sucks. They make pass royale bad, made level 15 when it's useless. I hope that they can learn from this and improve in the future. Even level 14 rn is difficult for me. I don't want a great game to die like this. Great work.

  • @Just_FootballDB
    @Just_FootballDB Рік тому +1

    The question:
    Is it harder to max a legendery card in 2016 or to max a legendery card to level 15 in 2023?

  • @max-mkl
    @max-mkl Рік тому +4

    You really took in perspective on how long upgrading your cards is gonna take. If currently got 70% of my cards maxed and 4% at level 13 .... and I've been playing since 2016 ....

  • @danibv1291
    @danibv1291 Рік тому +11

    I have an idea, more like a mid solution, between what supercell wants and what the players want.
    What if every player could only get a single card of their deck to lv 15? That would make that card really "elite", and that wouldn't become a source of pure frustation, you would deal with only one card that's overlevelled and it would bring more strategy into thinking about which card gets the most benefits from being +1 lv than the opponents' cards.
    I feel like that would bring incentive to grind but not the necessity of having all the cards maxed out. The whales that spend money would have only a single card overlevelled (which is a lot, i know, but far better than having 8 of them), but this might change in a matter of a season, since you said that getting rewards grants almost 2 cards per season. They could make that the first season you can decide for free which card to make "elite", so that you don't miss out the feature while grinding for a stable one
    What do you guys think?

    • @skotinoulis4745
      @skotinoulis4745 Рік тому

      Imagine mirror though

    • @Ilovelovin
      @Ilovelovin Рік тому

      its not what we think, shittycells wont change

    • @erfanwardana9769
      @erfanwardana9769 Рік тому +1

      @@skotinoulis4745 level 16 will be my nightmare again then

    • @danibv1291
      @danibv1291 Рік тому

      @@skotinoulis4745 I thought about it and there are many cards that would benefit a lot from being overlevelled. Mirror can be great, but also fireball (that oneshots wizard etc), graveyard (can't be countered by skeletons, skarmies and bats), bats/skellies...
      There are many cards that can really be "elite" and really change the game. I am currently still believing it's a great idea, sounds selfish but i'm actually more concerned about the game.
      I hope devs could listen more to the suggestion the players have, instead of being so blind... On the other hand there are many infuriated players that cannot have a decent discussion, i guess we should all work on that

    • @mikeoxlong3391
      @mikeoxlong3391 Рік тому

      People would be putting Their Win Conditions as elites I suppose

  • @TheRealKingEgg
    @TheRealKingEgg 4 місяці тому +3

    Wait until he finds out about MK evolution

  • @sako2239
    @sako2239 Рік тому +1

    I think my man has spoken enough about lv15 so am here instead to advance congrats Gratz for 100k subs only 4k sub left. You deserve it all for the work you put into your videos o7.

  • @kyleevans1314
    @kyleevans1314 9 місяців тому +2

    the fact that you can buy all 50,000 cards for $6.99 in the shop just ruins the whole system for me i’d be lying if I said I haven’t done this at least a few times to get cards in my deck to max so I can continue to progress

    • @defaultio3354
      @defaultio3354 8 місяців тому

      Only way things are gonna change is if we dont make their plan work, ive been f2p for 8 years because of how greedy they are

  • @Vaaero
    @Vaaero 7 місяців тому +4

    "I don't think it can get much worse"

    • @MiningPro41
      @MiningPro41 7 місяців тому +1

      Aged like fine wine

  • @TheBison69
    @TheBison69 Рік тому +2033

    Love that all creators go against level 15! We must make our stand. 🫡

    • @chiller99
      @chiller99 Рік тому +32

      Are you sure about *_all_* creators??... 🤔

    • @Jorothy750
      @Jorothy750 Рік тому +92

      Yeah but he doesn't have a creator code so he can actually fully speak his mind unlike the lack of actual honest comments from other creators.

    • @jacky9575
      @jacky9575 Рік тому +21

      Supervell doesn't care about their players or the comunity

    • @MR_DUALITY
      @MR_DUALITY Рік тому +58

      ​@@Jorothy750people with creator codes can criticize the update and talk about their worst sides. B-rad, Boss, Solar Fury all are going against the update

    • @cinamon146
      @cinamon146 Рік тому +17

      Heard*

  • @erebusvonmori8050
    @erebusvonmori8050 10 місяців тому +3

    Well now there's something for Level 15... Double EVO.

  • @iibrahimxd476
    @iibrahimxd476 Рік тому +5

    9:30 gems from masteries?? i think you meant gold

  • @antonioricaud5308
    @antonioricaud5308 Рік тому +2

    The fact that I'm having more fun playing Boom Beach due to the game's recent buff to progression really says a lot about the situation Clash Royale is in.

  • @jamesdelaney-h8h
    @jamesdelaney-h8h Рік тому +2

    top notch video. keep doing what you are doing. respect for speaking the truth about this absurd update

  • @StickyTrap
    @StickyTrap Рік тому +3

    Don’t ever say “things can’t get much worse”
    It’s supercell they will find a way

    • @breadcypher5728
      @breadcypher5728 Рік тому

      You're right, this is Supercell
      They'll absolutely find a way to make it worse

  • @Pickle_Riiiick
    @Pickle_Riiiick Рік тому +3

    They are also removing the 300 gems you get for completing a mastery. Instead you now get a huge 5k gold😂😂😂💀

  • @blueparagongamer9498
    @blueparagongamer9498 Рік тому +3

    why are my oppenents already level 15 maxed out then?

  • @supercrazestar
    @supercrazestar Рік тому +1

    Yo Gratz congratz (haha) on 100k been watching for a couple months now keep it up :D

  • @ShortsDeClashRoyale
    @ShortsDeClashRoyale Рік тому +1

    100K, YOU DESERVE IT.

  • @zara5023
    @zara5023 Рік тому +3

    I think card evolutionary are great in concept. I think they’re implementation isn’t so good. I like the idea of being able to unlock and upgrade a card evolution like you would unlock a normal card, but instead of the evolution being an objectively better version of that card, its more like a different version of that card. If like existing card evolutions it improves cards, it could just offer a greater cost, like multiplying skeletons costing 3 elixir, or goblin mortar costing 5. Alternatively it could be a weaker version of that card, like a lumberjack without its rage for 3 elixir or 2 stab goblins for 1 elixir, or just rebalanced, Like having a main wizard which is high damage but low health, and a different wizard which is high health but lower damage. all of these Card evolutions could be played at any time instead of the regular version if you chose to. The benefit of this would be to create psudo new cards whilst buffing existing cards by increasing their versatility instead of making them stronger, which would allow a card to fill different roles depending on what you needed it for.

  • @timoconnell5804
    @timoconnell5804 6 місяців тому +3

    my kids are boutta grow up grinding CR hoping to get their deck to be an ultra super sleek elite wild zesty champion loudout at level 25

  • @vqgue3032
    @vqgue3032 9 місяців тому +4

    ah yes, the best card in clash royale
    THE CREDIT CARD

  • @ExtraThiccc
    @ExtraThiccc Рік тому +1

    The thing is, having a million different currencies is exactly how free-to-play games work to manipulate players via confusing them. Their reasoning is if they confuse higher level players enough, the players will spend money just to skip the confusing mess the developers made. It works in gacha games, destiny clones, etc.

  • @Liver490
    @Liver490 Рік тому +1

    Hey m8 congrats for 100k!!! 👏👏👏