Btw as disturbing as the lyrics to this song are, the voice actor did such a great job. the poor guy was so scared that he would've gotten backlash for singing the song, but he did an excellent job and his voice is amazingg
I love how basically everyone's reaction to Hold Them Down is "I will personally oversee Antinous rotting in hell, but dear god did Ayron Alexander *SLAY* with those vocals".
This, in my opinion, ranks up there with the greatest villain songs of all time. Easily stands as a peer of Be Prepared, Hellfire, and Gaston/Mob Song.
Real. The first time I heard the song, my face couldn't stop switching from disgust to giddy because it couldn't tell if I wanted to listen to the plot or the voice
one thing i noticed. in the previous song, the line was "Whoever can string my husbands old bow" while here it's "Whoever can string the old kings bow" Penelope still sees it as the bow belonging to Odysseus, while the Suitors are already treating him as the ex king
I love this animatic. About that person at the end- who ever can string my husbands old bow. I'm enjoying a little to much that you didn't realise who that was.
Ok, something I just noticed, at 13:58, you can see the scar that the boar gave him during his fight with it. In the original story, he gets recognized while in disguise by one of his house maids via this scar
@@supershinigami1 I didn't even need headphones. Read a comment about that, went back to the beginning, and heard him easily. Jorge is good, but I don't think he's very good at disguising his voice. That shit pops out at ya too damn easily once you know it's there.😂
You know its a rule for musicals. The Villain Song needs to be enchanting and somehow make you like the song but hate the person. All the Charm and confusion of "but why do I"
@@leonglitch We DO know because it's literally his voice and because Jorge said on a short that it was a cute tell for people that both knew the original song and that were perceptive enough, cuz both in EPIC and in the original, Oddyseus was already there hearing Antinous and the suitors
@mrbigotes9974 First, Jorge never made a short on that. You made that up. Second, How do you know it's his voice. It's not exactly clear or anything. Also that doesn't make it Odysseus. Jorge has been just part of the ensemble before. Also why would Odysseus start singing alongside the suitors while hiding their weapons and stringing the bow? Odysseus doesn't have a disguise in EPIC so he would just be revealing himself and I find it hard to believe that the sharpest of kings would do that.
clue in the animatic, nobody can sting the bow, so the only one is the "old king" , a figure apears sting the bow and shoot throug the axes , and as penelope said only her husband can do that, so...
One thing that's really cool about this animatic is that before Ody shoots Antinous you can see the scar on Ody's leg that he got fighting Athena's magic boar. In the original Odyssey, when he disguises himself as a beggar, one of the maids who's known Ody since he was a young boy saw the scar and was able to immediately identify him cuz of it. She along with members of the palace staff that were loyal to Penelope and Odysseus are the ones who initially helped him lock the suitors in the palace and hide their weapons before Odysseus goes on his rampage.
The bit you suspected for the danger motif is played by a viola, Penelope's instrument, and if you listen for the notes and melody it's playing, I think it matches one of Odysseus' big NOs...
Oh I wonder who the rugged looking scarred guy who just strung the old king's bow and shot Antinous as he completed the impossible challenge, could be? 😂 Who's to say! He was color coded completely different from the suitors, looked middle-aged and was pretty good with that bow no one could use, huh 🤔 I'm teasing you Jen, you missing what happened in the end was just funny xD
I was about to flip at the end I was literally screaming through the screen “TS ODYSSEUS ITS ODYSSEUS WHAT DO U MEAN COME ON!!!” When she said Surely it’s not Odysseus surely not!
This is beautiful in the way that it is so musically upsetting. Think about what we would know is Penelope's instrument. Listen to the section again when he starts with "Hold Her Down" (if you can, which it is understandably upsetting). You hear hear Penelope's instrument (viola) underneath....like it's wailing/crying. This is by far the most uncomfortable song I've ever heard and I'm obsessed with it's construction and execution. This is definitely top tier villain song for sure~
13:39 kind of loses the shock factor and intrigue with this animatic (I love it still not saying it's bad, the artist just chose a different way to show the events), but in the og animatics used for the official livestream, odysseus wasn't seen among the suitors. Instead you could hear jorge in the background singing with the suitors, and also in The Challenge, which means Odysseus was there with the suitors the whole time blending in the background, so odysseus shooting antinous was pretty much a jumpscare. But odysseus has always been hiding among the suitors, even in the original. It also means he was singing "Hold them down" with a whole different meaning :)
One thing to take into account is that this artist tends to add a lot of the factors from the original tale into this. She includes things like his scar on his leg which tells you who he is and she includes things from the murals that shows us the events from the book as well. So in the original he does sit among the rest of the suitors and he hears everything that they're doing and he's the one who actually finishes the challenge. So it's a nice balance of both and I personally like the original a little bit more than the new version since it does give you an idea of what's really going on. And closes up some of the holes that the actual musical still has.
I'd like to note there is a more subtle musical reference that demonstrates Ody was closer than he ever realized to being as bad as Antinous- the melody of "Where in the hell is our pride and our rage," and one repetition of "Channel the fire inside of your soul" is the same as Ody's line "I am not letting you get in my way!" when he's about to kill Eury in Mutiny. An entirely different kind of monster might have come home...
God I love Jen's reactions. Don't worry Jen the next three will definitely lighten up your mood (Lighten is debatable so No promises on the first but the last two definitely will)
A lot of people have theorized that the viola (Penelope's instrument) in the background symbolizes that she was actually listening in on their plan. just like how if you really pay attention to the last line of the song you can faintly hear Odysseus singing along, this could easily tie in with his needed revenge against the suitors. Odysseus, Penelope and even telemachus are merely background motifs to the bigger picture and it stays like that for one whole song while Odysseus slowly bleeds through the background plot and back to the role of main character. Easily symbolizing his rise back to power as the rightful king of ithica.
I watched Luna's stuff for the first time the other day and was blown away. Like okay dang just crop out of nowhere like that and drop three master pieces
A little comparison between The Challenge and Hold Them Down "Whoever can string *my husbands* old bow...." ~ Penelope "Whoever can string *the old kings* bow...." ~ Suitors
I'm so glad you chose this animatic! My husband and I love this animator. But I do highly recommend watching the livestream animatics at some point ❤ they are beautiful and also possibly even darker 😅
Love the eye-roll at "breaking her bedroom door". The way he sings 'diplomatic mission' like he doesn't believe that's a real thing should clue you in that however clever and charismatic Antinous is, he's really a very simple creature. You'd think he would be preoccupied with thoughts about divvying up the kingdom, or using the other suiters to secure a larger slice for himself and his dynasty. But no, there's a milf to be violated first.
I would advise everyone to listen to this song with headphones on. You can hear Odys voice growing louder and louder as if he's inching closer to kill Antinous.
i think what u heard as danger motife is penelopes instrument playing the notes ody hit during keep your friends close when he screamed no. at.east that’s what i hear
There’s an alternative headcanon in the fanbase that instead of planning to murder Telemachus and “yknow” Penelope they plan a surprise birthday party for Telemachus to gain her favor instead
Who shoots through 12 axes cleaning using a kings old bow? I can't think of a preson who holds that much hatred for innocent little Antinous 🤫. Also, you picked a great animation, please watch her Odysseus animatic. All I can say about it is that if you liked this , that one will leave you speechless. Great reaction, as usual 😊.
You need to react to Lara Fabian's cover of Barbra Streisand's Yentel Medley. Done live at the Molson Center in Montreal it is one of if not her best performances of her spectular carreer. It is done before a full house with her parents in attendance Celebrating their 30th wedding anniversary. To say she gave it her all is an understatement.
They’re so wrong for the parody because now every time I try to listening to the normal version the second I hear “you know the prince is not around” I start laughing 😭
You should watch the parody animatic short by Gigi, which is basically an alternate timeline where Antinous is a nice guy. ua-cam.com/users/shortsFCffjiRrW4Q?si=uXuSZqQ10MZSPZKf
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Btw as disturbing as the lyrics to this song are, the voice actor did such a great job. the poor guy was so scared that he would've gotten backlash for singing the song, but he did an excellent job and his voice is amazingg
One thing I do love is that the universal reaction to this song is "Icky, I hate this, gods why is your voice so good, Ayron?!"
@laurasibob1106 fr i have to say so far the epic community has never disappointed im so glad to be part of it
@yousmell665 unfortunately a realistic worry because people went and BASHED on poor Calypso's Voice Actor
@@bradleybarnett1469 awww nooo i hope she's doing well
@@bradleybarnett1469 wait, what? why?
I love how basically everyone's reaction to Hold Them Down is "I will personally oversee Antinous rotting in hell, but dear god did Ayron Alexander *SLAY* with those vocals".
This, in my opinion, ranks up there with the greatest villain songs of all time. Easily stands as a peer of Be Prepared, Hellfire, and Gaston/Mob Song.
This is my third favourite song of EPIC and it’s not even the best villain song in EPIC
@@jackofdiamonds7303 Ruthlessness?
@@jackofdiamonds7303 Thunder Binger? Ruthlessness?
Epic doesn't miss with the villain songs
I want a song with Ayron Alexander as the hero, so I don't have to root against such a beautiful voice.
Truly something we need, because damn those vocals are amazing
Real. The first time I heard the song, my face couldn't stop switching from disgust to giddy because it couldn't tell if I wanted to listen to the plot or the voice
Well, there is the Birthday song
Excellent video
Not so fun fact, some people think the violin, bc it is Penelope's instrument, symbolizes her screams.
It’s the viola, actually :D!
The viola plays the “No” from ‘Keep your friends close’ when the bag is opened during the part when Antinous talks about SAing Penelope
I'm pretty sure that's actually something that Mr. Jalapeño himself told us. . _.)
one thing i noticed.
in the previous song, the line was "Whoever can string my husbands old bow"
while here it's "Whoever can string the old kings bow"
Penelope still sees it as the bow belonging to Odysseus, while the Suitors are already treating him as the ex king
I love this animatic. About that person at the end- who ever can string my husbands old bow. I'm enjoying a little to much that you didn't realise who that was.
😂🙈 oops!
@@JenniferGlatzhofer Our man Ody was here since Challenge. He's just being sneaky.
Jen, babes, I’m sorry to say he knows exactly what he was talking about-
Ok, something I just noticed, at 13:58, you can see the scar that the boar gave him during his fight with it. In the original story, he gets recognized while in disguise by one of his house maids via this scar
If I remember right it's not just a house maid, it's the woman that would equate to his Nanny.
@@kennethmorgan8795 Yeah. I forget her name...
Odysseus is actually singing throughout the whole song along with the suitors! He gets louder in the mix towards the end when they sing about his wife
You can hear it better with headphones.
@@supershinigami1 Very true
@@supershinigami1 I didn't even need headphones. Read a comment about that, went back to the beginning, and heard him easily. Jorge is good, but I don't think he's very good at disguising his voice. That shit pops out at ya too damn easily once you know it's there.😂
@@colt1903 I couldn't hear it without:)
You know its a rule for musicals. The Villain Song needs to be enchanting and somehow make you like the song but hate the person. All the Charm and confusion of "but why do I"
Ayron Alexander sang a parody version of this song, making Antinous sing about Telemachus' birthday and it's really wholesome 😅😂
12:30 "Why? He's so ugly." 😂 That was so out of pocket, that was not the sentence I thought I'd hear
So fun hidden detail, if you listen to the backup singers, you can hear Odysseus’ voice among them.
Oh! That’s is a good hidden detail ☺️
How do you know it's Odysseus we don't even know if Jorge was in it but even if he is that doesn't mean it's Odysseus.
@@leonglitch We DO know because it's literally his voice and because Jorge said on a short that it was a cute tell for people that both knew the original song and that were perceptive enough, cuz both in EPIC and in the original, Oddyseus was already there hearing Antinous and the suitors
@mrbigotes9974 First, Jorge never made a short on that. You made that up. Second, How do you know it's his voice. It's not exactly clear or anything. Also that doesn't make it Odysseus. Jorge has been just part of the ensemble before. Also why would Odysseus start singing alongside the suitors while hiding their weapons and stringing the bow? Odysseus doesn't have a disguise in EPIC so he would just be revealing himself and I find it hard to believe that the sharpest of kings would do that.
@@leonglitchit's a reference to the actual Odyssey?
clue in the animatic, nobody can sting the bow, so the only one is the "old king" , a figure apears sting the bow and shoot throug the axes , and as penelope said only her husband can do that, so...
One thing that's really cool about this animatic is that before Ody shoots Antinous you can see the scar on Ody's leg that he got fighting Athena's magic boar.
In the original Odyssey, when he disguises himself as a beggar, one of the maids who's known Ody since he was a young boy saw the scar and was able to immediately identify him cuz of it. She along with members of the palace staff that were loyal to Penelope and Odysseus are the ones who initially helped him lock the suitors in the palace and hide their weapons before Odysseus goes on his rampage.
The bit you suspected for the danger motif is played by a viola, Penelope's instrument, and if you listen for the notes and melody it's playing, I think it matches one of Odysseus' big NOs...
I love this animatic for it as it shows the *guy* shoot through the twelve axes before landing in Antinous's neck
Oh I wonder who the rugged looking scarred guy who just strung the old king's bow and shot Antinous as he completed the impossible challenge, could be? 😂 Who's to say! He was color coded completely different from the suitors, looked middle-aged and was pretty good with that bow no one could use, huh 🤔 I'm teasing you Jen, you missing what happened in the end was just funny xD
😂😂yeah, it threw me
I was about to flip at the end I was literally screaming through the screen “TS ODYSSEUS ITS ODYSSEUS WHAT DO U MEAN COME ON!!!” When she said Surely it’s not Odysseus surely not!
Oh boy i wonder how she’ll react to that one part😭😭
"OLD KING OUR LE-"
"NO. BE QUIET"
3:46 "it's just snakey behavior" with the sassy pursing of the lips took me OUT lmaooo
😂😂
This is beautiful in the way that it is so musically upsetting. Think about what we would know is Penelope's instrument. Listen to the section again when he starts with "Hold Her Down" (if you can, which it is understandably upsetting). You hear hear Penelope's instrument (viola) underneath....like it's wailing/crying. This is by far the most uncomfortable song I've ever heard and I'm obsessed with it's construction and execution. This is definitely top tier villain song for sure~
oh dear gods i LOVED THIS ANIMATIC! their style is incredible and they are clearly familiar with The Odyssey
u have no idea how excited i am to see u react to this animatic!!! we need more people reactions to HiStellaLuna 🥺
13:39 kind of loses the shock factor and intrigue with this animatic (I love it still not saying it's bad, the artist just chose a different way to show the events), but in the og animatics used for the official livestream, odysseus wasn't seen among the suitors. Instead you could hear jorge in the background singing with the suitors, and also in The Challenge, which means Odysseus was there with the suitors the whole time blending in the background, so odysseus shooting antinous was pretty much a jumpscare. But odysseus has always been hiding among the suitors, even in the original. It also means he was singing "Hold them down" with a whole different meaning :)
One thing to take into account is that this artist tends to add a lot of the factors from the original tale into this. She includes things like his scar on his leg which tells you who he is and she includes things from the murals that shows us the events from the book as well. So in the original he does sit among the rest of the suitors and he hears everything that they're doing and he's the one who actually finishes the challenge. So it's a nice balance of both and I personally like the original a little bit more than the new version since it does give you an idea of what's really going on. And closes up some of the holes that the actual musical still has.
I'd like to note there is a more subtle musical reference that demonstrates Ody was closer than he ever realized to being as bad as Antinous- the melody of "Where in the hell is our pride and our rage," and one repetition of "Channel the fire inside of your soul" is the same as Ody's line "I am not letting you get in my way!" when he's about to kill Eury in Mutiny. An entirely different kind of monster might have come home...
God I love Jen's reactions. Don't worry Jen the next three will definitely lighten up your mood (Lighten is debatable so No promises on the first but the last two definitely will)
But remember the tissues!!!
Could you watch the Odysseus animatic from the premiere stream after this? It's soo gooooood!
Agreed! Honestly I liked the other animatics too even if they weren't full, cause they were what Jay specifically asked for.
Duvetbox’s animatic is amazing! From the background, characters designs and expressions, it’s amazing
Sciitikat's is my favourite personally! 😄
@ I honestly like any animatic, Duvet’s just hits different.
She watched every single song in one sitting so she won't see your comment
So excited for this saga 💗💗💗
For the "Odysseus" reaction, I highly recommend the Duvetbox's take on it
Not bad, but I personally like the one from the premiere stream.
@@AngelusKnight-r6z Gwendy went so hard with the animation in that song it was insane
This song makes me feel guilty because of how much I enjoy it… but it’s so well sung I can’t help but love it
The danger motif also plays once Antinous sings at the beginning, each note playing during each line
A lot of people have theorized that the viola (Penelope's instrument) in the background symbolizes that she was actually listening in on their plan. just like how if you really pay attention to the last line of the song you can faintly hear Odysseus singing along, this could easily tie in with his needed revenge against the suitors. Odysseus, Penelope and even telemachus are merely background motifs to the bigger picture and it stays like that for one whole song while Odysseus slowly bleeds through the background plot and back to the role of main character. Easily symbolizing his rise back to power as the rightful king of ithica.
DIOOOS ESTABA ESPERANDO QUE LLEGUE ESTA CANCIÓN
Hold her down, Hold her down, Hold her down. Till when she finishes reacting to the saga!
I watched Luna's stuff for the first time the other day and was blown away. Like okay dang just crop out of nowhere like that and drop three master pieces
This is gonna be great
A little comparison between The Challenge and Hold Them Down
"Whoever can string *my husbands* old bow...." ~ Penelope
"Whoever can string *the old kings* bow...." ~ Suitors
I'm so glad you chose this animatic! My husband and I love this animator. But I do highly recommend watching the livestream animatics at some point ❤ they are beautiful and also possibly even darker 😅
Aron is such a brilliant singer. He auditioned for Tierisis! He was my favorite for the role but I love what we got.
The Odysseus animatic for this is also amazing, with a lot of reference to other gods
One of my favorite things about this musical is literally everyone having the same horrified reaction to this song
13:06 I was driving the other day and a car ran a red and almost t-boned me and I swear I heard the danger motif in my head.
oh damn you okay?
@Wannabe_NightWing yeah, it was just real close. Pulled over, calmed myself down and was totally fine after.
This animatic is so unique and creative I love it
In the _Odyssey_ , Odysseus staked out the place disguised as a beggar before officially revealing himself to Ithaca.
Live for her reactions!
So excited for it!!!
Thx for the reaction
Up next is probably the most intense song of the entire series, prepare yourself, prepare for Odysseus.
Hearing musicians takes on these is always so interesting. Like there is so much technical stuff going on most people don't pick up on
Omg the animatic googled greek axes!
I love the murderous look in your eyes the more the song progresses haha
Outstanding 😮😊
Hi Jennifer hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
Hope Jen is terrified when she reacts to Odysseus, and a blubbering mess for I Can’t Help But Wonder and Would You Fall In Love With Me Again.
Thanks Jen 😊
Love the eye-roll at "breaking her bedroom door". The way he sings 'diplomatic mission' like he doesn't believe that's a real thing should clue you in that however clever and charismatic Antinous is, he's really a very simple creature. You'd think he would be preoccupied with thoughts about divvying up the kingdom, or using the other suiters to secure a larger slice for himself and his dynasty. But no, there's a milf to be violated first.
I would advise everyone to listen to this song with headphones on. You can hear Odys voice growing louder and louder as if he's inching closer to kill Antinous.
I was Ody! He strung his bow and shot through all 12 axes and killed Antinous >:)
This is one of my favorites, but only for the vocals and vibe lol
I like this song but it ain't my fav, I hate Antinuous but I love his voice
We all do babe, we all do
best song of the whole saga tbh.
i think what u heard as danger motife is penelopes instrument playing the notes ody hit during keep your friends close when he screamed no. at.east that’s what i hear
There’s an alternative headcanon in the fanbase that instead of planning to murder Telemachus and “yknow” Penelope they plan a surprise birthday party for Telemachus to gain her favor instead
Who shoots through 12 axes cleaning using a kings old bow? I can't think of a preson who holds that much hatred for innocent little Antinous 🤫. Also, you picked a great animation, please watch her Odysseus animatic. All I can say about it is that if you liked this , that one will leave you speechless. Great reaction, as usual 😊.
it was indeed odysseus at the end
My boy Odysseus is about to have the most reasonable crash out of all time
You need to react to Lara Fabian's cover of Barbra Streisand's Yentel Medley. Done live at the Molson Center in Montreal it is one of if not her best performances of her spectular carreer. It is done before a full house with her parents in attendance Celebrating their 30th wedding anniversary. To say she gave it her all is an understatement.
there is a wonderful short parody of this song where they are celebrating telemachus' birthday, much better lyrics.
the "official" animations are amazing you should check them out
The red eyes of the arrow shooter gives him away
By far this is my favorite song sadly 😅
Now react to the parody 😂
*telemachuses birthday is soon*
They’re so wrong for the parody because now every time I try to listening to the normal version the second I hear “you know the prince is not around” I start laughing 😭
Those aren't circles he shoots through, those are axes.
OMGGGGG MY FAV SONGNFROM THE ITHICA SAGA
OH MY GOD YOU SAID ANTINOUS RIGHT
3:20 I love angry Jen lol. It's definitely deserved for Antinous
I honestly love your reaction to Atinous,,, like a disappointed aunt hrhd
This is gonna be a rough one for her
Truly the most 10/10 I hate it song of the musical 😅 I wish it were worse so I could not have it playing in my head lol
Oh my gosh please please react to Duvetbox’s “Odysseus” after this, it’s soooo good!
Ooof this is song is a rough one
"Surely not" she says
Omg😬😬😬😮💨
Please react to Duvetbox Odysseus!!
Can you react to stell luna animatics of odysseus next
Sheesh, you're gonna hate it😅
😡
@JenniferGlatzhofer haha sorry, ily 😆❤️
You should watch the parody animatic short by Gigi, which is basically an alternate timeline where Antinous is a nice guy.
ua-cam.com/users/shortsFCffjiRrW4Q?si=uXuSZqQ10MZSPZKf
You don’t have to wait Antinous just got shot
This song is such a banger. I know Jorge was enjoying himself for making such a beautiful song with these horrible lyrics. Such a villain song
Angry girl 12:22
I find it funny how you regard Antinous as ugly when another reactor thought he was hot.
Outstanding 😮😊