In god games we here the melody of “cause he is a warrior” *THEN* We hear “CAUSE I WANNA BE LEGENDARY!” I like to think of this as Athena letting go of her Philosophy of Ruthlessness just for this one time. And Her realizing Telemachus and Polites idea to greet the world with open arms could technically work
Jay, I know you won’t see this, but I look up to you a lot, kind of like an idol. Me and my friend talk about you all the time. We are hooked. I love you! ❤❤❤
Ikr? The only other person I can think of that puts this much thought into each song (even if it’s not throughout each album) is Eminem, like seriously you should check out those color coded rhyme videos
I think Telemachus is a good example of how wisdom can come from anywhere. Him being so inexperienced to give a goddess who is experienced advice is such a great message and he’s honestly one of my favorites
Love how Telemachus' harmony evolving demonstrates that he's not just simply replacing Odysseus for Athena, but they have their own friendship based on their own personalities too, not just Telemachus' relationship to Odysseus
I also love how the melody is also incorporated into the end of God Games. After Zeus strikes Athena with his first bolt and as she flashes back to Ody handing her a baby Telemachus, you can hear the WOTM melody playing . . . With the Legendary melody playing in place of Ody’s original riff - showing how both Ody and Telemachus have influenced Athena and how she’s now fighting for the both of them! And of course, it plays as she makes her final stand and pushes through Zeus’s strikes, giving everything to save her friend. JORGE, YOU ARE A GENIUS.
AAAAHHHHH I CAUGHT EVERYTHING UP UNTIL THAT FINAL HARMONY!!! I JUST THOUGHT TELEMACHUS WAS DOING HIS OWN VIBEY THING TO SHOW HES LIKE HIS DAD BUT THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER
Captain is the same level of genius as Odysseus himself. He should be try auditioning for Odysseus in a new musical that will be released in a few months later this year. Note: the musical is called Epic, for anyone wondering
It’s so FREAKING COOL how much detail and thought and Easter eggs go into making all of the music for Epic. It’s impressive how Jorge can keep track of it all.
Love the details of everything from the motifs to the musical language in this mythological musical, and I love these mini yap sessions of you explaining your in-depth thought process behind everything, it just makes it even more cohesive and compelling! Keep doing what you do best, Jay, we can't wait for more!~🙏🏽🎶✨ Comrades, let's continue to stream the Wisdom Saga, Full Speed Ahead!~⏳🎶✨
dude i knew about the riffs and the symbolism but hearing him talk and explain them and how deep they go is just insane this dude is a fricking genius love ur work Mr Jalapeño
Yup. The moment that clicked when I heard we’ll be fine on the livestream i IMMEDIATELY started sobbing. Jorge our wonderful Captain you are a musical GENIUS💙
Every time I watch a new Epic video, I want to be more and more like Jay. He brought me out of such a bad spot, and I just want to give him the biggest hug. Jorge, you saved my life, and then made it better. Thank you
Dude there is so much detail here- if it wasn’t for this video i would have never noticed any of that- this just shows how much thought it put into this project and it is beautiful
"We'll be fine" is also one of my favorite moments in epic: wisdom can come from innocence. Thank you Jorge for your attention to detail and the passion you put into your artwork.🥰🌹
I sooo much enjoy these snippets and insights into the musical! I like to learn all the background and method in musicals I really like and, whether this be a theatrical production or not, I'm sooo craving for the funny little informations
Honestly Jorge, this feels like Inception when you got to Athena singing with Telemachus! Odysseus adds on to Athena’s rift, Athena builds her rift on Odysseus’s, and Telemachus makes his own tune out of Athena’s rift on Odysseus’s rift who made the rift on top of Athena’s
What I love about these tiny little embellishments is you can also hear them played in the backgrounds of other songs & it’s almost like we can tell who is on the characters mind during the song. you’re actually so clever & your attention to such intricate details is incredibly impressive.
Can we PLEASE get a massive analysis when the series is over?? This is SO amazing and cool and I completely get why you have so much energy for this and I can't put all my emotions into typed words but THANK YOU for making this piece of history Jorge
i listened to we'll be fine and i instantly said "He is Steven Universing her" and i was 400000% right jokes aside i also love that how the final riff of the song is telemachus going further with it than anyone else had, kind of symbolizing at least to me that telemachus' emotional intelligence and in a sense emotional maturity goes further than either Athena or his dad were capable of, especially in the way their friendship broke down. Telemachus, this kid, the next generation, is capable of seeing things in ways and taking them further than those before him. And then athena immediately recognizes it with "You're a good kid"
Yeeees, I love that riff so much! I immediately noticed it in We'll Be Fine - super big kudos to you for the thought you put into even the smallest details. It really does add so much. It's also one of the reasons why this is the only song in Epic that has made me cry so far. And I mean bawling. And not just the first time I heard it either. Those pesky tears come every single time and I totally blame you for that. :P
You place so much personality and heart in your music; which is IMO what makes this series fantastic. I really look forward to seeing more work that you do, Jorge. God bless!
'its marketing' they said 'he's the one who wrote it why is he so excited?' they said. 2:51. Look how hyper and excited he is. This man is proud of himself, and we should be too. He made a thing, and he's come to show us just how thought out and cool that thing is, and goddamnit Jorge I wanna hear every last little lyrical piece of absolute art that you wanna tell us about
Random words for the algo: The best thing about this game was the ability for you and the other people you interact to play with and interact to get a better experience in it as you go through it all the way
this is like my english professor talking about novels and saying i should find all these connections to all these random themes and characters. BUT NOW I ACTUALLY GET IT AND SEE IT.
It is just so amazing. This is just one of the many notes that are repeated. My PERSONAL FAV is in "God games" when she sings: Hold your toung now, his son's my friend. And tell your lover that a broken heart can mend You want more bloodshed? Then set him free To get back to his hometown, he'll make everybody bleed Its def my fav bc it is sung in the exact same way as it was in warrior of the mind when she sang that part "i had a challange a testive skill". That whole part was basicly copied and pasted with new lyrics AND THE NYSTOLGIA. I cried as soon as she sang that verse. Im on the edge of my chair for the next saga after the wisdom saga!!! Pls dont leave us hanging to longgg i wanna see athena and oddyseus be bsf again😭😭😭❤❤❤ amazing saga❤ def my fav one so far!
I had picked up on the return of the melody from Warriors of the Mind, but not how it changed in We'll Be Fine. Great detail! It does a lot build up Athena & Telemachus' growing friendship while the majority of the lyrics are focused on Athena's regret and lost friend. If you haven't already made a video discussing "Love in Paradise"; please do! Would love to hear your insight because its perhaps my favorite song of the new saga.
The thought that goes into this musical is astounding! That’s why I love these long form videos-we get to see/hear all these hidden details and it’s so freaking cool!
This is a part of why so many of us has gotten so attached to these songs and yearn for eventually seeing the musical. All the MASSIVE amount of well thought through things about every element. How a character signs, the accompaniment to the characters, etc. Just so incredibly amazing!!
The thought behind this show never ceases to amaze me. I feel like in order to TRULY appreciate this musical you have to have an in-depth understanding of music, but even if you don't (like me), there's so, so much in it that resonates so hard and is so beautiful. I am in awe
I love these behind-the-songs tidbits - the amount of thought and intention you put into each song is just...nothing short of mind-blowing! It's little things like this that really bring the musical and its characters to life for me. Epic is an iceberg of enjoyment - it's already great on the surface, but the deeper you go, the more you're able to appreciate it for the blend of effort, creativity, and passion that it is. 💕
Telemachus' riff shows that he is becoming hid own person and not just Odysseus' son, because he lived in his father's shadow
That's so cool!
YES EXACTLY
But it does still work with Athena's note, showing how they both consider her a friend
babe wake up Jorge's talking about his music again!!!
I love your profile pic! Is that Starfire?
Tysm!! It is, there's also a matching Raven on Pinterest if you're interested!
I’m awake 🤩
"yapping" you mean
*me in the morning*
the melody at the end of "God games" and how it harmonizes between "warriors of the mind" and "legendry" almost took my soul
Ikrr
wait you got to keep your soul after that?
I am so glad someone else noticed that
@mer_acle8101 only crumbling remains, but yeah some of it still here , overdosing on copium tho
right I instantly got it for once during the livestream 😭
at this point we’re going to start picking out the SMALLEST easter eggs in every song ever
Yes because we're supposed to, that's what this musical is and it's awesome!
In god games we here the melody of “cause he is a warrior” *THEN* We hear “CAUSE I WANNA BE LEGENDARY!”
I like to think of this as Athena letting go of her Philosophy of Ruthlessness just for this one time. And Her realizing Telemachus and Polites idea to greet the world with open arms could technically work
Also at the end of God Games, when Athena's last words were to release Odysseus, it's the same last note that was in warrior of the mind.
I noticed that in God Games, Athena sang Hephaestus' harmonies when she talks to Apollo. Idk why, though
Fr 😭😭
THE GODDESS OF WISDOM GETTING FRIENDSHIP ADVICE FROM A KID THAT GOT IN A FIGHT AND DIDNT DIE😭😭😭😭😭
She caught him on a really good day, lbr. One could say, the best day of his life.
@@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE REAL!! I guess they’ll be fine
NO CAUSE I WAS LISTENING TO THE SONG YESTERDAY AND I STARTED RANTING TO MYSELF ABOUT THIS EXACT THING.
YES EXACTLY I REMEMEBER WATCHING THE LIVE AND WHEN WE'LL BE FINE CAME I WAS LIKR WOAH !!!!
I love ranting to myself about things its so cathartic. That was a cool detail you caught.
LMAO SAME WAIT WTF
Omg same
Yeah i spent all week thinking about this and finding better headphones to notice the different tonal shifts because of how connected they all are
Thank you so much to my Patreon members for suggesting this video!! 🥹🙌🏼💙
Hi!!!!
We love you Jorgy Borgy!
💗💗💗
Hi
Jay, I know you won’t see this, but I look up to you a lot, kind of like an idol. Me and my friend talk about you all the time. We are hooked. I love you! ❤❤❤
How is it possible to put SO much thought into EACH song!?
Ikr? The only other person I can think of that puts this much thought into each song (even if it’s not throughout each album) is Eminem, like seriously you should check out those color coded rhyme videos
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Neurodivergence probably
Cause this is his first big project after college which he started 5 years ago
@@zamirtachackvalencia1212 True. Its still amazing tho
2:49 this at 1.75x speed sounds like me explaining this musical to my friends lmfao
lol-
are yall just watching videos on 1.75x speed to figure this out?? 😭😭
@@servantbee. Yes😅
@@servantbee. Yea why?
@@DragonXXLilly i cant tell if youre genuinely confused about why i would be confused about that
Winions, behold! Our captain has posted!! 💛
finally!
Omnomnom
*pop pop pop*
CAPTAIN!
CAPTAIN!!
Jorge has no right to be such a genius
Ofc he has,I mean,he is JORGE ✨️
@@LovelyLilly.Isabelly Fair enough
@@LovelyLilly.Isabelly**Mr Jalapeño
@@ChaosQueen623 **Jorgenbong Borbongong
@@LovelyLilly.Isabellyyeah
I think Telemachus is a good example of how wisdom can come from anywhere. Him being so inexperienced to give a goddess who is experienced advice is such a great message and he’s honestly one of my favorites
I swear Jorge is just Lin Manuel Miranda's long lost brother or sth
IKKKK
Totally 😂😂
@Music-Fan-j5b shhh... you're right... but they'll get mad...
fr fr
Apollo is related to Lin Manuel Miranda?
I need 6-7 hours of Jorge talking about riffs and motifs
Me too
I love it when Jay talks about little details in Epic, it’s so cool.
Love how Telemachus' harmony evolving demonstrates that he's not just simply replacing Odysseus for Athena, but they have their own friendship based on their own personalities too, not just Telemachus' relationship to Odysseus
I also love how the melody is also incorporated into the end of God Games. After Zeus strikes Athena with his first bolt and as she flashes back to Ody handing her a baby Telemachus, you can hear the WOTM melody playing . . . With the Legendary melody playing in place of Ody’s original riff - showing how both Ody and Telemachus have influenced Athena and how she’s now fighting for the both of them! And of course, it plays as she makes her final stand and pushes through Zeus’s strikes, giving everything to save her friend.
JORGE, YOU ARE A GENIUS.
I like how at 2:16 ish Jay makes a face as if he didn't like how he sung that note. Then from this point on he sings slightly less high-pitched 😂
But was still killing it up in that falsetto.
That's very true! Jay has an amazing voice!
AAAAHHHHH I CAUGHT EVERYTHING UP UNTIL THAT FINAL HARMONY!!! I JUST THOUGHT TELEMACHUS WAS DOING HIS OWN VIBEY THING TO SHOW HES LIKE HIS DAD BUT THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER
Shes teaching him the song of her and his dad, she's passing the melody down 😭❤️
God he's so fucking good at this. I feel like there's so many layers to this musical
He’s connected my 3 favourite songs…. I now have 1 favourite melody/riff/motif
Same
I love all of the motifs so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my god each song has so much depth!!!
It's so beautiful how there's so much THOUGHT put into every song
So glad I noticed Athena returning to the riff on my own in ‘we’ll be fine’
Captain is the same level of genius as Odysseus himself. He should be try auditioning for Odysseus in a new musical that will be released in a few months later this year.
Note: the musical is called Epic, for anyone wondering
I’m genuinely confused on what the joke of this comment is. Is it because he’s already Odysseus?
Wisdom is not defined by age and the truly wise learn to embrace this simple truth
It’s so FREAKING COOL how much detail and thought and Easter eggs go into making all of the music for Epic. It’s impressive how Jorge can keep track of it all.
Gotta love the thought, attention to detail, and care put into every song.
I can see the difference, that really is like a Athena journey character development over the years😮😮
She becomes less ruthless ruthless more compassionate and more willing to show vulnerability
Jorge has been waiting to long to share this with us. He was so exited.🎸🎵
"We'll be fine" is this close to become my favorite song from this saga and this just pushed it further into first place.
Love the details of everything from the motifs to the musical language in this mythological musical, and I love these mini yap sessions of you explaining your in-depth thought process behind everything, it just makes it even more cohesive and compelling! Keep doing what you do best, Jay, we can't wait for more!~🙏🏽🎶✨
Comrades, let's continue to stream the Wisdom Saga, Full Speed Ahead!~⏳🎶✨
Full Speed Ahead!!
Jorge, the amount of time it must take you to put all of this into EPIC is insane. Thank you for everything you do ❤
Edit: Jorge appreciation section!
@@PasteltheRooster Thank you Jorge ❤ Jorge-appreciation section!! :D
I don't think there is anything as joyous as watching a creator talk so passionately about his creation
I love how joyful you are when talking about your work. You should be.
Jay: *explaining the Easter eggs behind epic*
Me: wow he can sing really high
No kidding, I was damn impressed
dude i knew about the riffs and the symbolism but hearing him talk and explain them and how deep they go is just insane this dude is a fricking genius love ur work Mr Jalapeño
Yup. The moment that clicked when I heard we’ll be fine on the livestream i IMMEDIATELY started sobbing. Jorge our wonderful Captain you are a musical GENIUS💙
Every time I watch a new Epic video, I want to be more and more like Jay. He brought me out of such a bad spot, and I just want to give him the biggest hug. Jorge, you saved my life, and then made it better. Thank you
Jorge is a warrior of mind thinking about all these easter eggs😂
I love how the music rlly shows the character development of Athena
Dude there is so much detail here- if it wasn’t for this video i would have never noticed any of that- this just shows how much thought it put into this project and it is beautiful
"We'll be fine" is also one of my favorite moments in epic: wisdom can come from innocence. Thank you Jorge for your attention to detail and the passion you put into your artwork.🥰🌹
i love the little details omg😭🫶
I sooo much enjoy these snippets and insights into the musical! I like to learn all the background and method in musicals I really like and, whether this be a theatrical production or not, I'm sooo craving for the funny little informations
I LOVE YOU JORGE PLEASE DON'T DIE TO AN APPLE NAMED SHELDON APPLE SMITH
That's oddly specific
Honestly Jorge, this feels like Inception when you got to Athena singing with Telemachus! Odysseus adds on to Athena’s rift, Athena builds her rift on Odysseus’s, and Telemachus makes his own tune out of Athena’s rift on Odysseus’s rift who made the rift on top of Athena’s
What I love about these tiny little embellishments is you can also hear them played in the backgrounds of other songs & it’s almost like we can tell who is on the characters mind during the song. you’re actually so clever & your attention to such intricate details is incredibly impressive.
I absolutely *adore* all of this little details, it’s so intricate and makes the songs *so much better*
Oh i noticed the warrior of the mind and goodbye thing but not Telemechus! I love the details that go into this please never stop rambling
Can we PLEASE get a massive analysis when the series is over?? This is SO amazing and cool and I completely get why you have so much energy for this and I can't put all my emotions into typed words but THANK YOU for making this piece of history Jorge
i listened to we'll be fine and i instantly said "He is Steven Universing her" and i was 400000% right
jokes aside i also love that how the final riff of the song is telemachus going further with it than anyone else had, kind of symbolizing at least to me that telemachus' emotional intelligence and in a sense emotional maturity goes further than either Athena or his dad were capable of, especially in the way their friendship broke down. Telemachus, this kid, the next generation, is capable of seeing things in ways and taking them further than those before him.
And then athena immediately recognizes it with "You're a good kid"
we’ll be fine has become one of my favourite songs in epic. it’s so pure and you feel so many emotions in it
I love Athena ❤
And i cry because she died💔😭
I literally sung every note exactly- I swear this musical is in my head 24/7
I love all these little details. My god it makes it all so so deeper and more meaningful.
MY HEART!!!! That is too sweet! You are SO talented and creative and I can’t wait for what is to come
my brain is officially now mush. how can you add so much detail is so little space. your talent is incredible
I appreciate how much thought goes into these songs. Amazing!
I swear I am way too obsessed with this….. I love epic the musical ❤❤❤❤❤❤
This man is Apollo in disguise 🥸
We'll be fine is my favorite of the Wisdom saga!! It deserves more love!!!!
OMG WARRIOR OF THE MIND WAS WHAT INSPIRED ME TO WRITE ANOTHER FIRST DRAFT
Learning about these small details is so cool! Telemachus might be my new favorite character honestly, he’s such a cinnamon roll.
This is my favorite motif/musical moment too!
You just made me tear up within 3 mins. Congratulations, this is an achievement.
No wonder parts of We'll Be Fine reminded me of Warrior Of The Mind 😭
It’s crazy how much detail goes into each song ❤
Its this level of intent that makes your creation so special Jorge, thank you.
Yeeees, I love that riff so much! I immediately noticed it in We'll Be Fine - super big kudos to you for the thought you put into even the smallest details. It really does add so much. It's also one of the reasons why this is the only song in Epic that has made me cry so far. And I mean bawling. And not just the first time I heard it either. Those pesky tears come every single time and I totally blame you for that. :P
God the notes are so high 😭😭😭😭
Jorge explaining his complex musical theories always gives off the same energy of the pepe silvia meme (but in the best way lol) 😂 😂
This is why I love this musical! There's so much work and thought put into everything!!
🤯 this is incredible... makes me appreciate each of these songs even more!!
When I thought I couldn't love this musical even more you prove me wrong. Such nice clever detail and musical story telling. Its beautiful.
Ahhh this is so beautiful 🥹💗 Jorge, you are are GENIUS!!!!
I love that you’re talking about that motif, it’s one of my favorites. Every chance I get, I talk about it. It’s such creative storytelling.
I think any artist that thinks about and executes their art on this level deserves praise. Bravo
I like how he gets more excited while explaining🤣🫶🏽
The amount of detail he puts in his song are immeasurable.
You place so much personality and heart in your music; which is IMO what makes this series fantastic. I really look forward to seeing more work that you do, Jorge. God bless!
'its marketing' they said 'he's the one who wrote it why is he so excited?' they said. 2:51. Look how hyper and excited he is. This man is proud of himself, and we should be too. He made a thing, and he's come to show us just how thought out and cool that thing is, and goddamnit Jorge I wanna hear every last little lyrical piece of absolute art that you wanna tell us about
I absolutely ADORE that he explains all these lil easter eggs omg!!
Random words for the algo:
The best thing about this game was the ability for you and the other people you interact to play with and interact to get a better experience in it as you go through it all the way
this is like my english professor talking about novels and saying i should find all these connections to all these random themes and characters. BUT NOW I ACTUALLY GET IT AND SEE IT.
It is just so amazing. This is just one of the many notes that are repeated. My PERSONAL FAV is in "God games" when she sings:
Hold your toung now, his son's my friend.
And tell your lover that a broken heart can mend
You want more bloodshed? Then set him free
To get back to his hometown, he'll make everybody bleed
Its def my fav bc it is sung in the exact same way as it was in warrior of the mind when she sang that part "i had a challange a testive skill". That whole part was basicly copied and pasted with new lyrics AND THE NYSTOLGIA.
I cried as soon as she sang that verse. Im on the edge of my chair for the next saga after the wisdom saga!!! Pls dont leave us hanging to longgg i wanna see athena and oddyseus be bsf again😭😭😭❤❤❤ amazing saga❤ def my fav one so far!
I had picked up on the return of the melody from Warriors of the Mind, but not how it changed in We'll Be Fine. Great detail! It does a lot build up Athena & Telemachus' growing friendship while the majority of the lyrics are focused on Athena's regret and lost friend. If you haven't already made a video discussing "Love in Paradise"; please do! Would love to hear your insight because its perhaps my favorite song of the new saga.
I'm literally crying 😢 YOU ARE GENIUS! Every single decision in Epic blows up my mind 🤯🤯🤯
Damn. THIS is why Epic is such a good musical. The amount of thought and intention that Jorge has put into every note and line is incredible.
The thought that goes into this musical is astounding! That’s why I love these long form videos-we get to see/hear all these hidden details and it’s so freaking cool!
This man has to make the music for the new Disney live action Hercules
This is a part of why so many of us has gotten so attached to these songs and yearn for eventually seeing the musical. All the MASSIVE amount of well thought through things about every element. How a character signs, the accompaniment to the characters, etc. Just so incredibly amazing!!
He's so excited about his art, and it's wonderful.
I love how proud he is of his work, that's so amazing. Plus, such an endearing music nerd and I'm here for it!
The thought behind this show never ceases to amaze me. I feel like in order to TRULY appreciate this musical you have to have an in-depth understanding of music, but even if you don't (like me), there's so, so much in it that resonates so hard and is so beautiful. I am in awe
I love these behind-the-songs tidbits - the amount of thought and intention you put into each song is just...nothing short of mind-blowing! It's little things like this that really bring the musical and its characters to life for me. Epic is an iceberg of enjoyment - it's already great on the surface, but the deeper you go, the more you're able to appreciate it for the blend of effort, creativity, and passion that it is. 💕
there is SO much storytelling happening in just the music of epic! truly incredible jorge!!
And this is why We’ll Be Fine is my favorite song of the Wisdom Saga.