WHAT DOES TUBE FUZZ SOUND LIKE? - Walrus Audio SILT - It has dinosaur bones on it and I like that
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TUBES? IN FUZZ? THIS IS MADNESS! Can you hear a difference? Im not sure I can but It 'feels' like something is different. Its a bit hard to explain.
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The second you hit the harmonics the wave of fuzz was so thick i needed to shave my speakers 😂
I've watched so much 60 cycle hum that Ryan is starting to appear in my dreams 😭
Danzig - Mother for the motherboard jingle
10 milliamp would be a good representation of how much current a fuzz circuit requires
The heater for a 12ax-7 type tube requires 300mA at 6.3 volts or 150mA at 12.6 volts.
I built a 'tubester' (Poptronics July, 2002). A triode (12ax7), a couple of op amps and the associated resistors, caps, pots, jacks was pretty much all there is to it. It's actually decent. It will distort but you can't get that smooth overdriven tube sound from it.
So a tube based fuzz pedal makes sense. It's easy and cheap to make and whatever the fuzz sounds like well, that's the pedal's character.
Space Lord - Monster Magnet, for the motherboard jingle 😅
There are no dinosaurs because you scared them to death with some of the sounds you make ,but the expression on your face when you reach those sounds is priceless
The Fundamental Fuzz by Walrus Audio was my gateway drug to fuzz. This new pedal might be my next foray.
I really like this fuzz.
Have you reviewed the Orange Fur Coat? I got one used and SUPER love it.
Be sure to check out Hennings review of this. Usually not a fuzz enthusiast, w this he can't stop smiling or shredding .
What's not to like about this box? Imagine what "One of These Days ' sounds like on this?
Wow to the dinosaur band and skull masks!!
the motherboard jingle should be a chiptune/midi of Danzig's song "Mother"
Yup. Lol I made this suggestion too.
Like the Plasma but needs the bright arc through the looking glassasss
You could call it Mark Motherboard and play something by Devo??
lol
What a cool sounding fuzz .you should post some video of your band
The tones from Close Encounters of the Third Kind #jingle
Your channel rocks keep it up
Thanks! I will.
Motherboard jingle = Ozzy’s “Mama, I’m coming home.”
Most of the current is going to the heater in the tube.
Motherboard jingle idea. Something to do with aliens because motherboard is close to mothership?
I’ve always been a big fuzz fan . My gateway drug was a Russian Big Muff in the ‘90’s . I just fell in love with that green box !
I definitely hear the tube tonal characteristics in the lower gain settings. I have 12au7's in 2 of my amps and I recognized the overdrive tone pretty early on. In the higher gain it definitely goes into all out fuzz and sounds great. Might have to look into it.
You can almost hear the fossil fuels in there....
The 12au7 tube is an interesting choice, and a classic swap in the Tube Driver pedals and rack mounts. It's lower gain allows more of your guitar to come through the fuzz, so it's going to be more responsive the harder you push it. I'll bet you could replace the 12au7 for any other preamp tubes, but I wouldn't. It sounds great as it is.
This one's a keeper, for sure.
You need this pedal, Ryan.
...do it...
Actually no. At these voltages you need a low mu tube to make it happen. A 12AX7 won't work for shit.
@@hagerman_amplification I don't know. I have a feeling it'd work pretty well, based on other low voltage tube overdrives. But it'd be fun to try different tubes just to see exactly what would happen.
...as long as flames aren't involved.
The pedal was designed by Jim Hagerman of Hagerman Amplification. Award winning for his very high end Stereo tube amps for HiFi buffs. He also makes pedals both tube and transistor because he is a guitarist. In short you can not get more of an expert about tubes then ol' Jim. Check out his own pedals too.
Mahalo!
Space ship sounds from delays for the motherboard theme/sound.
reminds me of a EHX Big Muff Pi but with the tube in there, so that low end sounds very smooth and warm
Loved your jams here! I'm going to go look up Dinosaur Ghost right now. What delay are you using? Sounds great
I chatted w the tube designer over at Hennings channel. No op amps. Transistors. The octave is SS and pre tube. I asked the plate voltage, but haven't gotten a reply yet. You'll need to find the AU7 graph for low voltage, they work normally down to like 1 1/2 V. The fuzz can also be powered w 12V instead of 9. The 300ma for the heater seems reasonable, but less plate voltage at higher current might be a non standard design. I'm thinking I've seen a cold cathode grounded grid configuration where the cathode is transistor driven but, I'm not sure. If its a non standard design keeping mum about the circuit might be a good idea w those wiley Chinese waiting to clone. You can also have transistors as a constant current source for the plates. Helpful at low voltage. He stated the AU7 can be replaced by the usual tubes of the family , AX7 etc. I'd love to see the schematic.
Not sure who said U7 can be replaced by X7, but it wasn't us! Don't do it, waste of time. At lower voltages you need a low mu tube. Frankly, the tube no longer operates the way you expect it to, so typical "tube" circuits will not function well. You need to re-characterize the device and then make circuit adjustments. A good analogy is silicon versus germanium; one transistor has way better characteristics than the other. Plop a low gain, leaky germanium into a spot reserved for silicon, and it just won't work right. But design the circuit around the characteristics of a germanium transistor? Well, you know how good that can sound.
As far as schematic - you ain't neva gonna see it. This took us a year and a half to develop. :)
Stoneage Romeos
By the Hoodoo Gurus
May appeal to you.
Especially I want you back film clip with dinosaurs.
Much love
@60 Cycle Hum Jingle for the Motherboard....Danzig - Mother. Simple is good just maybe the guitar riff. Its pretty damn recognizable.
Daft Punk has a great track called “Motherboard” from their final album Random Access Memories. Maybe see if there is something in there you could use?
I also have a 1966 reissue jazzmaster Dakota red with the tiny headstock
You’re the reason I bought it, thank you.
It’s serial number ends in 666 and has beautiful rosewood streaking on the fretboard
One do a kind
I’ve named it “the beast”
Great video. But someone has to say it: No physical manual for a $300 pedal? It better come with some cool stickers.
Mortherboard. Almost anything from Man or Astro-man. 9 volt,transmissions from Venus, interstellar hardwire, rocket ship come to mind.
I think the obvious Motherboard theme is "Mother" by The Pink Floyd Sound. From, "The Wall". (Later shortened to just Pink Floyd...boring)
.... _BUT_ , a _happy_ version. In a major key, of course.
🎶 Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb? Woo hoo!🎶
Or, "Mutter" (mother) by Rammstein.
A happy little tune about spending quality time with mom 🥰
the mother board should have some sort of theramin jingle
Danzig “ Mother “ for the mother board
10:22 was waiting for it lol
Sounds great..yeah I'm listening on a phone...but sounds great. Tube must be an old school per amp circuit? I want one!
Actually, it's all new. We didn't copy anything else out there.
Man I love red pedal
Jingle for the mother board
Mother by Danzig in 8bit
Thank you, what a lovely Fuzz this is, especially on bass VI ! sadly totally out of my budget range…😢
Did find a verrrry hairy gritty absolute velcro fuzz box though on ali.. its called Demonfx Fuzz works 7 … and so many knobs on it to adjust the velcro-ness 😋 ..!, and it’s just on the edge of what i can afford a.t.m. 😃
I'm guessing a component of the fuzz sound is the fact that the tube is starved of voltage, although not as starved as in some tube dirt pedals I've heard. They likely are ramping up voltage internally.
TC electronics tube driver for instance claims to be an overdrive but has a massive almost big muff wooliness to it that I associate with a starved 12ax7 tube
I suppose you could use some approximation of Mother by Danzig for the Motherboard
I'd bet a paycheck it runs at starved plate voltages. Each triode works like a distortion diode in a typical transistor of op-amp disto pedal. The tube doesn't amplify anything, not in the way a tube does a full plate voltage.
However it could have a charge pump and be hitting the plates with 200v. Throw it in the bathtub, see what happens. Nothing = starved plate. Explodes = high dc voltage.
For the Motherboard theme, just do the podcast jingle but with a Sample/Hold Filter sound on it for some extra *ScI Fi SoUnDs*
for the motherboard theme, you should just get a version of 'danzig- mother' in 8 bit, or a surf rendition.....because that's a stupid f-ing idea and you didn't specify you wanted good ideas on the topic 😁 (i'd find it amusing though) also, that sounds like a cool pedal.
and yes, i missed all the other people ALSO mentioning this idea in the comments before i posted. OOPS
Mother by Danzig for the motherboard
Woof that is thick
Well, ok. New favorite "versatile fuzz." It's this plus Ryan's broken Kuvave fuzz on my hypothetical board. That's according to the player in me. The engineer in me might not like how either sits in the mix so much. A lot of solo-tones that sound good solo are completely unreasonable with other instruments in the mix live or on tape. They sure sound neat in demo videos, and I enjoy them!
How many times have I had to explain "less is more".... Less distortion. Less fuzz. Less signal **decimation**. Guitars need room to breath and if they can't breath and express themselves, and give up some of the frequency space to other instruments, the mix probably won't sound great.
what was the wierd effect at the end with delay. pitch delay thing.?
i have 7 different fuzz pedals here at home..from 29 to 230 bucks...the one i like and play the most is the cheapest one ;)
Jingle for the motherboard? Pro wrestler entrance music style knock off surf version of Mothership Connection.
Obligatory "tubes are not filters!"
Sounds like there's hard clipping after the typical fuzz sound. No problem having a fuzz pedal with overdrive built in, and if I'm wrong, I'd love to know what this circuit is actually doing.
the jingle for the mother board should be Mother Pop Corn by James Brown
I just bought one also and I’m experiencing a strong buzz coming through my amp. It’s powered by a Voodoo lab power 2. I have it placed as the 2nd to the last pedal after my Keeley delay pedals. I’m wondering if I it’s either the power or where it’s placed? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Typically fuzzes are used as close to the front of a signal path as possible. Unless there is a specific creative reason for putting it after the delay I’d try moving it up in the chain. Also this isn’t a gated style fuzz so there’s going to be some noise like running a hot distortion pedal.
Awesome thank you.
i found pedals with tubes to be hit or miss on how much actual effect the tube makes, like i swapped the AX7 in my Tube Pilot overdrive to an AU7 which should have decreased the gain by about 70%, but noticed no reduction in gain, but the Bugera 12AX7c was noticeably quieter than the JJ 12AU7, so IDK what to make of that, aside from the tube being part of the circuit or it would make no difference at all other than that there is a similarity between how that pedal you have sounds, and how it sounds when I run my Tube pilot into my Op amp Big Muff. (I prefer the EHx Crayon side of my Hot Wax pedal for that function tho, or my Joyo wannabe Tube Screamer. My Bantamp Bluejay on the other hand, actually uses the tube for its preamp gain as when i swapped out the ruby AX7 for a JJ AU7 I got the 70% reduction expected.
The mother board could have an alien-y ufo sound? Like mothership?
Tubes just have a better soundstage, richer, fuller, more 3D . Going into a high gain tube amp actually feels different vs high gain SS effects to your fingers, at least it does to me and real world friends Ive talked to.
As someone who's done a million back and forth tests, it all comes down to how much you're willing to spend. In the 300-800$ range, tubes just kill anything that try and emulate them. Buttt once you get to the price where you can afford a Universal Audio amp sim pedal and a high end speaker or monitors (probably around 1k), there is no clearly discernable difference once you match the amps/cabs/monitors to the same tone. I haven't tried the crazy high end stuff like Kempers but I imagine that they would sound again just like the originals but with more options.
With all that being said, my only amp is still a tube combo, so there's always s magnetic pull to analog gear that can't quite be quantified.
@@middaymeds ? Aren't they all using the same chips ? I noticed a difference in CD players, but that was in the analog , 50¢ op amps vs $8 . I'm comparing Apples to Oranges w my post , but comparing Apples to fake Apples here w you I'll point out something. Back when digital reared its ugly head, a professional soundman friend and I read up on the Nyquist theory of sampling . At 44 khz it captures all the frequencys just fine , but the phase relationship of all , and especially the upper harmonics is completely screwed. That's why early CDs sounded particularly harsh. Most folks dont hear phase very well which is why some dont actually hear Tonewood differences vs those who dont care and assholes who are just contrarieans and like to argue. W tubes constant changing harmonic relationships, there is literally no way even theoretically, let alone real world, to capture this digitally. I have the Vox amps effect, the Fender 15W digital amps amp and the Moorer 5150 and Regal King simulators. Yeah there's a certain deadness to all of them except the Regal where I dime every control and hit it hard w a boost, but thats distorting the analog sections. I've never heard the high end stuff. Maybe Ill go to G C and pretend Im rich. Cheers.
The jingle for the mother board could be just roger waters singing "mother do you think they'll drop the bomb" and that's it.
Yesterday I finally found a cuvave fuzz.
But sold out. Lol
They might be on the nose, but Mother by Pink Floyd or Pearl Jam would be fitting.
So i always wanted the freidman tube fuzz but price and redoing my power settup
I heard ' I want to be your dog by The Stooges' aaaaaand now i want it 🤪
This thing reminds me a lot of Electrofoods Pigpile
300ma power?
Heater filaments on tubes draw a healthy amount power, but with a 9V power supply, this is a starved plate design... you can't make enough voltage from a 9V supply to make the tube actually ad gain, it is acting like a clipper.
sounds pretty cool, but not $300 cool
Yep, there could be a step up transformer, but it’s most likely just clipping in pretty much starved, on eadge of actually working mode. Design popular in lot of “tube” effects. Opened a bunch and there are ICs that do the heavy lifting and tube is there just for the gimmics. But had one full tube pedal that was like 12v AC powered and that thing was dangerous. Stepped up like 300v power and it was really hot. Sadly it sounded not so good…
PS is probably DC since AC wasn't mentioned here or by the designer, so no tranny.That would also be more expensive than other ways of V multiplication .No step up chip either which would be easier than transistors. So its probably low plate V assuming the Plate isn't used oddly. Any tube component can be In, Out, or Grounded . Tubes will operate in space charge mode just like the ones designed for that. But it might be something odd, not like an amp preamp
How about Mother by Danzig?
👍🏿🤘
Sounds delicious to me. Pretty similar to the Plasma Coil in a lot of ways.
A raine ov dookypoops
@@Taco_Raider yeah I agrre
If I watch this in Europe would it then be 50 cycle hum?⚡🤔⚡
Toob for yore Pupe
This sounds like Jack white
29:57 30:05 ❤I dont like the art but gawdam it sounds massive and bludgeoning. Stomps your sound to death (these are positives, by the way.)
Mother by The Police. Andrew Somers losing his blonde mind.
I think this will sound better on you future Stoner/Surf album.
It sounds more like the Laney amp fuzz, of the earlier Black Sabbath. But, seems to had a transistor fuzz, running in extreme low voltage in paralell with tube.
For those who do not know, there was a "pedal" capable to dim the voltage of another pedal. It is usefull to make a fuzz more dirty, and distortions/overdrives more close to a fuzzy
Grrr, rage, angry comment about a pedal costing $300 that I wouldn't have bought even if it was $50!!!! Does that about cover the average comment about pedal prices?
pretty much lol
Lol touché good sir. 😂
I'm bored and off to listen to kc and the sunshine band
Very cool, not $300 cool for me.
There is a potential problem with this pedal.., you are having far to much fun whit this pedal …😁
It's starting to get pretty boring. Same old riffs, regular old everyday fuzz sounds. What's so special about the sound? Nothing so far, at least. The art is nice, but hey, is that a reason to buy?
What are you listening thru ? I'm using 48 watts of JBL Flips , flat response for guitar, and its the best fuzz I've ever heard. The soundstage is incredibly full and rich. The only way it could sound any better is if Josh Scott tweaks it, and maybe not then.
I prefer much more the abelha fuzz from beetronics he reviewed few days ago
Holly moses what a useless pedal. Had to stop the video cause there is no nice sound in that sucker. I prefer the 25€ cuvave 10 times more than this. You should expect something better from Walrus. Besides making fuzz sound is the easiest pedal you can design, there should not exist bad fuzzes from boutique brands. Send it back before you kill the starved plate volt tube in it. Sticking tubes in low volt pedals is a bad design from the start. It looks cool, but the sound and end product is shit. Any pre-amp tube needs at least a 90 volts to function propperly. I bet they have the thing working as a pair of clipping diodes. Similar to what the OCD does with mosfets. And in my opinion thats sticking a tube in a pedal just for nonsens.
There are no diodes in the signal path of this circuit. Sorry.
How does anyone sit through 30 mins of this? Between the obnoxious phony laughter and the mindless knob turning, it's a demo for goons.
Dude, chill. Ryan, of all youtubers, has the most accurate walk into a guutar center and try something vibe. Not overly complicated set up or playing. Just messing around with guitar gear.
I don’t get it either man. I just keep doing my thing and people keep watching. No reason to stop.
@ferrousmcgarrus3431 Who's forcing you to watch 😂. Ryan does the best gear demos on UA-cam. Very thorough and he's very funny. When he checks out a new pedal or guitar he plays it like I would try it out for the first time.