Hidden Reasons Behind Closed Source Software

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
  • Ever wondered why some developers choose to keep their source code under wraps? This short delves into the less talked about aspects of the open vs. closed source debate, shedding light on some thought-provoking motivations.
    Highlights:
    Discover how privacy concerns and the fear of exposure drive companies to opt for closed source, with real examples from industry giants.
    Explore the intriguing idea that some developers fear their work's simplicity could be improved upon, rendering their original contributions obsolete.
    This discussion extends beyond the technical-it's about the values, fears, and aspirations that shape our digital world.
    📢 We invite you to share your views: Why do you think closed source persists in an era pushing for openness and collaboration?
    👉 Subscribe for insightful discussions on the dynamics of software development.
    #ClosedSourceReasons #SoftwareEthics #OpenVsClosed

КОМЕНТАРІ • 60

  • @keola27
    @keola27 4 місяці тому +25

    the code was way harder to write than i thought... why would i put a million dollars of Dev on the internet for free?

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому +3

      Because a community is more than sum of its parts - 🙏

    • @vishawashkumar5159
      @vishawashkumar5159 4 місяці тому

      Because the whole internet survives on millions of dollars of code for free

  • @sid_edwards
    @sid_edwards 4 місяці тому +33

    Not even remotely close. There are perfectly valid reasons for open vs. closed source software that have nothing to do with what you mentioned.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому +3

      This video is the ‘hidden’ reasons orgs go closed source - not the ‘stated’ reasons. Thanks for watching!

    • @ZJARDOON
      @ZJARDOON 4 місяці тому +2

      Like for people to mock your material without providing any value of their own whatsoever.

    • @sid_edwards
      @sid_edwards 4 місяці тому +4

      I've been in software development for 15 years. There are valid reasons to keep it closed source.
      1. Maintenance and community support costs are expensive.
      2. Less control of the software with an increased number of contributors.
      3. Regulatory compliance and complex legal gray areas.
      4.Insufficient budget or resources.
      5. Liability concerns
      6. IP protection
      7. Competitive advantage
      To be clear, I love open-source, but it doesn't mean that closed-source = bad.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      @sid_edwards finally - someone actually listed the real reasons for closed source software. Now - if people go watch the full podcast from which that clip came from, you’ll see that we were discussing the ‘cynical’ reasons people close their source.
      There’s a place for both closed and open source - both are good and bad options. 🙏

  • @the1whoplayz
    @the1whoplayz 4 місяці тому +13

    Personally I leave most of my projects as closed source simply because there's no incentive in open sourcing it.

    • @spoons8839
      @spoons8839 4 місяці тому +3

      That’s idiotic, outside people can push improvements to your project and anything open source improves technology

    • @the1whoplayz
      @the1whoplayz 4 місяці тому

      @@spoons8839 Funny how you say that when I had a relatively popular website that was open source which received 0 contributions from anyone aside from myself and the dependabot over the span of three years. Only thing I've gotten was people complaining if any specific feature didn't work and no one else helping out.
      The fact of the matter is, for the average developer, there is no point in making a project open-source unless its specifically just for building up your resume.

    • @christianremboldt1557
      @christianremboldt1557 4 місяці тому

      I publish my source most of the time because there is no point in keeping it secret

    • @TheScriptPunk
      @TheScriptPunk 4 місяці тому

      ​@@spoons8839
      The project is probably not useful

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think that's true. many incentives. including lead generation, product feedback and improvement, etc.

  • @BlackLightning0Games
    @BlackLightning0Games 4 місяці тому +6

    Maybe because most people write software for a job and why would your company want to expose all the hard work they paid you to do to their competitors.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      Because function is more valuable than source code - and a community can take source code to force multiply better function. 🙏

  • @ireshrie
    @ireshrie 2 місяці тому +1

    Aside from monetary benefits, yes agree on this two points.

  • @Rustmilian
    @Rustmilian 4 місяці тому +1

    Every close source application depends on open source.

  • @d1namis
    @d1namis 4 місяці тому +1

    Name open source project that was not a rewrite of a commercial product. Open Source projects that is 100% ground breaking and necessary and come up before closed source - dosent exist. If you are an inventor - you have right to have profits and close source is a safest way, without open source gamble.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      We developed to Unified Namespace as an open source architecture.

  • @Critmaw
    @Critmaw 4 місяці тому +1

    3. It works, but I'm embarassed by the mess I hacked together

  • @novagaming7928
    @novagaming7928 4 місяці тому +1

    Nah more like:
    1. I don't want to deal with criticism.
    2. Biggest reason. Most developers don't know how to "open source".

  • @aLfRemArShMeLlOw
    @aLfRemArShMeLlOw 4 місяці тому +1

    I felt number two in my heart, damn! haha

  • @kaizer-777
    @kaizer-777 4 місяці тому +1

    People write closed source software because they want to make money.

  • @amandahugenkiss
    @amandahugenkiss 4 місяці тому +5

    Or maybe they want to protect their intellectual property so they can keep making money on it?

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      This video is about the ‘hidden’ reasons for closed source - not the ‘stated’ reasons.

    • @emptydata-xf7ps
      @emptydata-xf7ps 4 місяці тому +2

      Plenty of open source profit models out there. Subscription for support, subscription for hosting, etc

    • @JimBimBum
      @JimBimBum 4 місяці тому

      you already can by trademarking it. game companies did this especially with racing games which is why not many had a transition from first person to third person and just snapped because that was being held hostage with trademarks even if your code was completely different but the fact you could do the same thing is what was made illegal. really messed up how laws are and how broken our system really is.

  • @danielnykvist3221
    @danielnykvist3221 4 місяці тому +1

    My projects are closed because why would i give my hard work for free?

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      Because a community can make your hard work, super work - which is more valuable.

    • @danielnykvist3221
      @danielnykvist3221 4 місяці тому

      ​@@4.0Solutionsbut now i cannot earn money on the program anymore? Anyone can just take a copy of the code and compile it themselves

    • @Rustmilian
      @Rustmilian 4 місяці тому

      ​@@danielnykvist3221 You can make plenty of money. Blender, Thunderbird, etc. just need the right approach.

  • @luminaeus
    @luminaeus 4 місяці тому +1

    Yeah because fuck getting paid for your work and having food to eat.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      obvious reason to close the source code. this video is the "hidden reasons" why someone might close their source code, even if they weren't making money on it for example.

  • @miketec4222
    @miketec4222 4 місяці тому +1

    Why would my company that i own a portion of go open sourse when we have invested millinons in to building aquiring new ip to build upon just to go open sourse and take said investment and allow others to use for their purposes? All without paying any of the fees/costs along the way? That's not how software dev works. Folks like this are silly youtubers acting like they know how business actually works. Wasn't that hard to write. We have spent years working on stuff that does not yet exist, but it's simple, right?

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      No - software development is hard. It’s even harder when it’s closed source. Walker is not a UA-camr - Walker is a solutions architect with 25 years of experience digitally transforming manufacturers. He owns 50 companies, and has led the development of several software solutions.
      This video is the ‘hidden’ reasons orgs go closed source, not the ‘stated’ reasons.
      You sound like a perfect guest to have on our podcast. Walker would love to discuss this topic with you, publicly, if you are willing. 🙏 The topic would be something along the lines of SDLC, CI/CD, FOSS vs Closed Source - a discussion. The invitation is open.

    • @neonfuz_
      @neonfuz_ 4 місяці тому

      Tell that to all the successful open source software companies out there

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      Some of our content / training is made available for free. We offer a free IIoT mini-course that 8,600 students have signed up for, and we also manage the industry 4.0 community discord server and make it freely available for anyone to join. You should join!

    • @LunaticEdit
      @LunaticEdit 4 місяці тому

      @@neonfuz_ Can you name some successful open source companies that A) don't use government grants or register as a non profit, and B) don't use closed source components or services to pay for the opens source components

  • @MungeParty
    @MungeParty 4 місяці тому +5

    Smooth brain take, definitely blocking this channel

    • @stillness0072
      @stillness0072 4 місяці тому

      That's what I was thinking as well
      Enough is enough

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      This would be a great topic for a podcast - Walker would love to debate you on this topic. Would you be interested in being a guest on the podcast and argue the counterpoint?

  • @IgorStepanov
    @IgorStepanov 4 місяці тому +1

    So that China does not steal it.

  • @romangeneral23
    @romangeneral23 4 місяці тому

    I closed off my source code cause I don't want to live like a student for the rest of my life.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      Why not do open source software + commercial or enterprise option.

  • @NielsSHansen
    @NielsSHansen 4 місяці тому

    It doesn't sound like he actually knows what he is talking about.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому +1

      Is that a counterpoint?

    • @NielsSHansen
      @NielsSHansen 4 місяці тому

      @@4.0Solutions You're talking about closed source programs like it's an afterthought to hide wrongdoings, but the majority of companies has never used open source programs, primarily in order to avoid people copying their code.
      Closed source has been a thing since long before privacy was an issue, so how can it suddenly be the main reason for choosing closed source?

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому +1

      No - this video highlights the ‘hidden’ reasons (the cynical reasons) that developers close their source, not the ‘stated’ reasons they close their source. It is taken from a longer podcast discussing the pros and cons of FOSS in Industrial Software. 🙏

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  4 місяці тому

      @@NielsSHansen most closed source software is built on a mix of open source technology.

    • @NielsSHansen
      @NielsSHansen 4 місяці тому +1

      @@4.0Solutions Are you talking about some obscure kind of software?
      Because what you are saying does not make logical sense to me.
      So Adobe's and Corel's software is a mix of what? G.I.M.P. ?
      and IOS and Windows is a mix of LINUX?
      I just don't get it, the majority of software is closed source, mostly there's a bunch of closed source versions and then one open source for most types of applications, so how does your point make sense?
      Maybe I just don't know anything.
      I don't mind learning, could you point me to somewhere that supports your point?

  • @9jatechie
    @9jatechie 4 місяці тому

    😂