Well they did air 13 episodes in '65... Which may help explain why it was canceled. It was in black and white (because of the use of archival wwii footage being in black and white)
The stories of the north Atlantic convoys are a subject hardly given much attention, I thought this was a fine rendition. A great example of the relationship between the Merchants and their Naval escorts. Decent lead actors, directed by Don Seigal no less, A shame this is the only episode to survive.
Do not remember this one. Thanks for sharing this. This should have run back in the 50s alongside Navy Log and the Silent Service. Pretty good show, too bad all but this are lost
@@guyvalentine7258 So what? It is a fictional television show! I am glad they were able to get the cooperation of the Navy to show test firings of the hedgehog!
@@guyvalentine7258 The first prototype Hedgehog was deployed on D47 HMS Westcott on 25 August 1941, but the first killing of a Axis submarine was on a Vichy French submarine using a Hedgehog mortar didn’t take place until 8 November 1942, by HMS Westcott…
my old man served as chief engineering on a DD during this very period of the war. we actually sat and watched this show when it was airing. he frequently made technical comments about things like how much smoke was coming out of the stacks and it' s color ( dark or white ) as an indicator of how well the engineering plant was being run.
It's to bad this show never made it to tv. Looks well done for the times. It is to bad the night scenes were so bad I could not see anything of what happened.
One other episode of Convoy, did appear on UA-cam a few months ago. Not a bad episode, guest star was a pre Star Trek James Doohan, as a Royal Navy officer.
This is one that I missed. My dad was an Army Lt. Col and a land lubber. This one was on after my bed time so I never got to see it. It apparently never made it into the syndication circuit, either. Too bad. Allowing for Hollywood to take a few "liberties" this was not bad. It is a shame that the rest of the series was lost forever. Foresight is always blind and hind sight is always 20/20.
I was following Russian subs when this was made - I did not surface until late 66 and missed everything during my teenage years - when they say these 19-year-olds are just kids I think BS as I was in the Navy 10 days after turning 17 -
One of my favorite war books of all time is Alistair MacCleans "HMS Ulisses " Poweful book about a British cruiser guarding a convoy on the Murmansk Run.
@@kenkahre9262 Could have gone either way; both Guns of Navarone and Ice Station Zebra are good movies (the former is spectacular) but completely butchered from the books, while Breakheart Pass and Where Eagles Dare (both terrific movies) are very close adaptations. Of course a British studio could have made it in the late 50's or early 60's when there were still a bunch of period cruisers around to film (though the Dido's/Royalists were among the first to get scrapped), but it was controversial during the time, and by the late 60's or 70's they'd have had to mock up a frigate or destroyer with wooden turrets anyway... They could make it today, but then they'd butcher it with non-period dialogue/accents (Vallery and Turner probably sounding like a chief engineer from the time) and it wouldn't be anti British enough to pass the Hollywood or Netflix smell test.
"Convoy", "Hogan's Heroes", and "Mister Roberts" all premiered on Sept 17, 65, according to Wiki. It seems to me I watched "Hogan", then changed the channel for "Convoy". I remember watching Hogan and Roberts all season, but gave up on Convoy after a few eps.
Never heard of a totally US convey in the North Atlantic. When America were drawn into the war they refused to take advice from the Brits and form up in convoys which cost many valuable men, ships and cargoes. The Germans called it the second happy time.
True. Thanks to Admiral King, the CNO. President Roosevelt eventually ordered King to put all ships into convoys. King was a pigheaded dude. But he was a good CNO overall. If you overlook how many US sailors, merchant marine mostly, who died needlessly in 1942.
To be honest, it takes time to organizise and set up for convoys! There is a lot of logistics to work out! We should have been better prepared and had plans worked out to implement them sooner!
I didn’t notice an indication that it was a totally US convoy. The show portrays a US Naval Officer as commanding the escorts and a civilian American Convoy Commodore overseeing the Merchant Ships. Wartime Convoys usually had vessels from a variety of nations.
I love these old B&W films. As a bit of worthless knowledge, they got the German U boat crew uniforms wrong. There was only one man aboard any WWII Nazi U boat allowed to wear a white "cover", ( or hat for you land crabs). Only a U boat Captain wore a white cover , or hat. Small factoid of limited worth. But then, any fact might be useful someday.
@@davidlang4442 LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS! ( I didn't say nuthin, but I'd bet that Collier had more Ping-pong Balls in her holds than you could swing a stick at!)
There were a lot of good tv shows on television during the 1960's. Unfortunately none of the networks or show runners. Saw fit to preserve them. Since no foresaw the advent of videotape or discs or even digital streaming 60 years later!
Too all you brits with jealous comments; be glad we were willing to take these loses to save you. Instead of mocking us over tactics, and our own losses.
May I point out two things about the UK, the Commonwealth and the war effort. First, they were in longer than we were and second, they carried a disproportionate share of the battle. As for strategy and tactics, there is much to criticize all around. We none of us are in the minds of the war time leaders or the general public, but a good case can be made for our willingness to "save" the Brits was a byproduct of the Japanese attach on Peral Harbor. That does not demean or detract from those Americans who served, sacrificed and stood in harm's way, but I suspect that as in other wars the trooper on the ground and the air crew in a bomber were not primarily motivated by the urge to save the allies. When I was in combat, I am certain that none of the others in our air cav troop or in the support activities were there to save our RVN allies, Some had drunk the wine and were there to fight world communism and some just liked to fight, but never did I meet anyone who was there out of admiration for the RSVN government or the people in general.
John Gavin is probably best known for his portrayal of Sam Loomis in Alfred Hitchcock's PSYCHO. Gavin later retired from acting and became a career diplomat.
I remember trying to watch "Convoy" Sticks in my mind it came on right after "Hogan's Heroes". The first ep was pretty good, but it deteriorated rapidly and I gave up on it after maybe three eps. "Mission Jericho" and "Mr Roberts" were considerably better, but they failed too.
If hedgehog anti-sub explosive charges are designed to blow only after physical contact, how did they explode in minute 46 of the film if there was no submarine under the surface?
13 episodes of the series were filmed unfortunately from other networks the series faced stiff competition. Also it seemed that viewers were not crazy about Black and white tv series as color was coming on more shows. Still it was too bad as the series was not bad that it wasn't saved for video.
For some reason I recall watching a TV program set during WWII named "Convoy" when I was a boy, I THINK from prior to 1960. The premise was the same as this "Convoy" though I remember damned few details. Could this show have been released on air?
Which the US Navy didn’t have in early 1942! First US Navy ship to employ the Hedgehog was DE-252 “Howard D Crow” in April 1943, a tab bit late for the “Convoy” storyline…
Only saw 1 bad spot in film. I can see why it didn’t get past the pilot. The story is interesting & on par with other WW2 series of the time but to be realistic it was too dark to be appreciated by the audience. Not sure there would have been a way around that issue if they wanted to convey the atmosphere of the mission.
Some convoys were organized with a senior Merchant Mariner Captain as Convoy Commodore overseeing the Merchant Ships. In that case the Senior Naval Commander commanded the escorting Warships and generally the overall convoy.
"Convoy" was a 13 episode series broadcast in 1965 - '66 . The original first episode ( this one ) is the only one that was preserved. So, yes, it was a series !
Having grown up watching these old movies/series, I find this one to be just as good as any of them. Too bad they decided not to produce the series.
Well they did air 13 episodes in '65... Which may help explain why it was canceled. It was in black and white (because of the use of archival wwii footage being in black and white)
The stories of the north Atlantic convoys are a subject hardly given much attention, I thought this was a fine rendition. A great example of the relationship between the Merchants and their Naval escorts. Decent lead actors, directed by Don Seigal no less, A shame this is the only episode to survive.
That's a mistake cuz I just saw what about 6 months ago
Thank you for putting this on YT. Seems universal and NBC dropped the ball on this one. It would have made great TV in the 1960's.
After watching ACTION in the NORTH ATLANTIC. I really wish this series had gotten more attention than Hogan's Heroes.
Do not remember this one. Thanks for sharing this. This should have run back in the 50s alongside Navy Log and the Silent Service. Pretty good show, too bad all but this are lost
Great film. Thank you for the upload.
Thank you 🙏 I feel privileged to have seen it.
Thanks for posting this.
Dad was in a convoy . After seeing this he said " i didnt know i had it so good"
Thanks! I have never seen this one. A series I would have watched 'back in the day' if they would have completed it...
I enjoyed watching the deployment of the Hedgehog! I dont think I had ever seen one in action before.
Hedgehog was invented by the english.We adopted it in1943. It definitely would not have been averitable to us in nineteen forty two.
@@guyvalentine7258
So what? It is a fictional television show!
I am glad they were able to get the cooperation of the Navy to show test firings of the hedgehog!
@@guyvalentine7258 The first prototype Hedgehog was deployed on D47 HMS Westcott on 25 August 1941, but the first killing of a Axis submarine was on a Vichy French submarine using a Hedgehog mortar didn’t take place until 8 November 1942, by HMS Westcott…
my old man served as chief engineering on a DD during this very period of the war. we actually sat and watched this show when it was airing. he frequently made technical comments about things like how much smoke was coming out of the stacks and it' s color ( dark or white ) as an indicator of how well the engineering plant was being run.
It's to bad this show never made it to tv. Looks well done for the times. It is to bad the night scenes were so bad I could not see anything of what happened.
I just found this one,thank you
One other episode of Convoy, did appear on UA-cam a few months ago. Not a bad episode, guest star was a pre Star Trek James Doohan, as a Royal Navy officer.
A great movie. I wish they had more.
This is one that I missed. My dad was an Army Lt. Col and a land lubber. This one was on after my bed time so I never got to see it. It apparently never made it into the syndication circuit, either. Too bad. Allowing for Hollywood to take a few "liberties" this was not bad. It is a shame that the rest of the series was lost forever. Foresight is always blind and hind sight is always 20/20.
Interesting. Never knew this. Thanks for posting this.
I grew up with 12 oclock high combat etc but i dont remember convoy
Wow. I remember seeing this when I was a kid.
I was following Russian subs when this was made - I did not surface until late 66 and missed everything during my teenage years - when they say these 19-year-olds are just kids I think BS as I was in the Navy 10 days after turning 17 -
One of my favorite war books of all time is Alistair MacCleans "HMS Ulisses " Poweful book about a British cruiser guarding a convoy on the Murmansk Run.
Should have been made to a movie.
@@robruss62 It was MacClean's labor of love. He refused to give it to Hollywood, afraid what they'd do to it. And as a screenwriter, he was right.
@@kenkahre9262 Could have gone either way; both Guns of Navarone and Ice Station Zebra are good movies (the former is spectacular) but completely butchered from the books, while Breakheart Pass and Where Eagles Dare (both terrific movies) are very close adaptations.
Of course a British studio could have made it in the late 50's or early 60's when there were still a bunch of period cruisers around to film (though the Dido's/Royalists were among the first to get scrapped), but it was controversial during the time, and by the late 60's or 70's they'd have had to mock up a frigate or destroyer with wooden turrets anyway...
They could make it today, but then they'd butcher it with non-period dialogue/accents (Vallery and Turner probably sounding like a chief engineer from the time) and it wouldn't be anti British enough to pass the Hollywood or Netflix smell test.
WoW, So relevant of the time...Wanna sea more.
If I remember right it was on NBC opposite of Hogan's Heros on CBS.
"Convoy", "Hogan's Heroes", and "Mister Roberts" all premiered on Sept 17, 65, according to Wiki. It seems to me I watched "Hogan", then changed the channel for "Convoy". I remember watching Hogan and Roberts all season, but gave up on Convoy after a few eps.
Never heard of a totally US convey in the North Atlantic. When America were drawn into the war they refused to take advice from the Brits and form up in convoys which cost many valuable men, ships and cargoes. The Germans called it the second happy time.
True. Thanks to Admiral King, the CNO. President Roosevelt eventually ordered King to put all ships into convoys. King was a pigheaded dude. But he was a good CNO overall. If you overlook how many US sailors, merchant marine mostly, who died needlessly in 1942.
To be honest, it takes time to organizise and set up for convoys!
There is a lot of logistics to work out!
We should have been better prepared and had plans worked out to implement them sooner!
Yes Americans especially the greatest generation could be quite stubborn. Just ask king George .
I didn’t notice an indication that it was a totally US convoy. The show portrays a US Naval Officer as commanding the escorts and a civilian American Convoy Commodore overseeing the Merchant Ships. Wartime Convoys usually had vessels from a variety of nations.
@@northerncaptain855 The vast majority of which were from the UK, RN.
I love these old B&W films. As a bit of worthless knowledge, they got the German U boat crew uniforms wrong. There was only one man aboard any WWII Nazi U boat allowed to wear a white "cover", ( or hat for you land crabs). Only a U boat Captain wore a white cover , or hat. Small factoid of limited worth. But then, any fact might be useful someday.
I think it was a clip of Mush Morton USS WAHOO.
I don't know about land crabs ,but they got lots of sand crabs at Paris Island and bed bugs in the Navy .I'm just an old Army 🐕
Wow, a liner surviving 4 torpedoes! And stopping in the middle of the Atlantic...
😅😅
It had ping pong balls for cargo..millions of them in the holds...besides munitions.
@@davidlang4442
LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS!
( I didn't say nuthin, but I'd bet that Collier had more Ping-pong Balls in her holds than you could swing a stick at!)
This is actually Pretty Good!
God Bless all the Merchant Seamen
I remember this series
Me too. I was 11 yo.
There were a lot of good tv shows on television during the 1960's.
Unfortunately none of the networks or show runners. Saw fit to preserve them. Since no foresaw the advent of videotape or discs or even digital streaming 60 years later!
Would have been a good series from this one sample. Realistic enough for sure.
Gia scarli was in guns of navaroon spy also
Too all you brits with jealous comments; be glad we were willing to take these loses to save you.
Instead of mocking us over tactics, and our own losses.
May I point out two things about the UK, the Commonwealth and the war effort. First, they were in longer than we were and second, they carried a disproportionate share of the battle. As for strategy and tactics, there is much to criticize all around. We none of us are in the minds of the war time leaders or the general public, but a good case can be made for our willingness to "save" the Brits was a byproduct of the Japanese attach on Peral Harbor.
That does not demean or detract from those Americans who served, sacrificed and stood in harm's way, but I suspect that as in other wars the trooper on the ground and the air crew in a bomber were not primarily motivated by the urge to save the allies. When I was in combat, I am certain that none of the others in our air cav troop or in the support activities were there to save our RVN allies, Some had drunk the wine and were there to fight world communism and some just liked to fight, but never did I meet anyone who was there out of admiration for the RSVN government or the people in general.
John Gavin is probably best known for his portrayal of Sam Loomis in Alfred Hitchcock's PSYCHO. Gavin later retired from acting and became a career diplomat.
So what did they power the "bug" with when set adrift on the raft. It was plugged into 120 volts on the ship.
Yep, I wondered the same thing. Ben Franklin's kite?
They specifically stated that it had a backup battery inside in case it was unplugged.
A good show, poor-quality film and all. Too bad it never went further, though. Thanks for sharing this..
You should let periscope films restore it.
I don't remember even seeing this one, but it's not too bad and i would have watched it so i give it a 👍
I remember trying to watch "Convoy" Sticks in my mind it came on right after "Hogan's Heroes". The first ep was pretty good, but it deteriorated rapidly and I gave up on it after maybe three eps. "Mission Jericho" and "Mr Roberts" were considerably better, but they failed too.
If hedgehog anti-sub explosive charges are designed to blow only after physical contact, how did they explode in minute 46 of the film if there was no submarine under the surface?
I don't think hedgehogs were around in 1942?
Wikipedia say it was one season of 13 episodes.
13 episodes of the series were filmed unfortunately from other networks the series faced stiff competition. Also it seemed that viewers were not crazy about Black and white tv series as color was coming on more shows. Still it was too bad as the series was not bad
that it wasn't saved for video.
A submerged sub can't transmit in salt water. Can only receive if antenna is out of water.
I like War Movies 🎬 😊
Did I just see Mush Morton USS Wahoo as the German sub commander with a cigar at the scope? If so he won't be happy being in U boat..
Shame this didnt become a series. I would have thought this to be as do able as Twelve o' clock high.
It lasted one year of 13 episodes.
Wow,talk about digging up dinosaurs, I don't remember even one episode
I watched that as a kid
For some reason I recall watching a TV program set during WWII named "Convoy" when I was a boy, I THINK from prior to 1960. The premise was the same as this "Convoy" though I remember damned few details.
Could this show have been released on air?
Hedgehogs don't explode unless the hit something!
Which the US Navy didn’t have in early 1942! First US Navy ship to employ the Hedgehog was DE-252 “Howard D Crow” in April 1943, a tab bit late for the “Convoy” storyline…
By 1945 the sub captains realized that they were more lethal on the surface..diving was suicide!
Boy, I don’t remember this one at all. Looks very realistic. I don’t recognize any of the guys. It had pretty women in it too.
Only saw 1 bad spot in film. I can see why it didn’t get past the pilot. The story is interesting & on par with other WW2 series of the time but to be realistic it was too dark to be appreciated by the audience. Not sure there would have been a way around that issue if they wanted to convey the atmosphere of the mission.
Attenti agli U-boat (e ai nostri eroici sottomarini!)😅⚓⚓
TV was very competitive! The gallant men didn't last long.
Good show but most scenes too dark.
why is an Aux vessel, a navel repair ship. the convoy command ship?
Some convoys were organized with a senior Merchant Mariner Captain as Convoy Commodore overseeing the Merchant Ships. In that case the Senior Naval Commander commanded the escorting Warships and generally the overall convoy.
John Gavin...Biff O'HARA
Gray Hound
Episode 5:
ua-cam.com/video/BhW16pfzlHE/v-deo.htmlsi=f2vp1MhjTdD81kaE
Morse code was 054 repeated
The tone did not change as the receiver was tuned.
Would have really enjoyed watching this but my eyesight and the film quality not coinciding with each other
Usa used concrete ships!
Elendig film det er så mørkt ar maniske får en skidt ud af det. 🥵😵💫😵💫🫡🤔🤔
Not funny like Mchale's Navy. Like Combat! with more water. I'd have watched it.
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Don't believe you can call a one-and-done a "series."
"Convoy" was a 13 episode series broadcast in 1965 - '66 . The original first episode ( this one ) is the only one that was preserved.
So, yes, it was a series !
What a simply ridiculous story line...thank God all the other episodes were destroyed! I really must wonder why this one survived?
Schwein!
Show didn’t have the sea legs🌊🌊🌊
Frankly it wallowed so badly, it made me seasick