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КОМЕНТАРІ • 118

  • @cengime
    @cengime 12 років тому +6

    The base-10 log function is just ln(x) / ln(10). Either base would work for taking the x out of the exponent, but the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x, and the derivative of log(x) is 1/(x * ln(10)), so using the natural log avoids introducing a purposeless factor of 1 / ln(10).

  • @rockYhre
    @rockYhre 15 років тому +4

    Great video! Especially using the HQ. I enjoy watching these videos a lot.

  • @ExtraterrestrialIntelligence
    @ExtraterrestrialIntelligence 10 років тому +28

    now second derivative.

  • @jensamis
    @jensamis 13 років тому

    Dude, you are my hero. I giggled at the rediculousness of it all, but somehow completely understood it. Just lovely.

  • @duyu
    @duyu 15 років тому

    I can watch these videos in HD all day. Thanks for making new vids!

  • @dannystoll84
    @dannystoll84 14 років тому

    Figured this out a month ago the hard way - by using y=e^(ln(x^x^x)) and differentiating from there… let's just say this is a lot more elegant

  • @carelessmorning
    @carelessmorning 15 років тому +1

    Your writing with the mouse is great . :D

  • @jaymejamjar
    @jaymejamjar 13 років тому

    THANK YOU! calculus exam in two days and I was so stuck. I'm definitely going to need to keep watching a few more derivative videos before i get the hang of it, but this was so helpful. thank you!

    • @4ltrz555
      @4ltrz555 4 роки тому

      How did you perform 🤔

  • @pritamdas7495
    @pritamdas7495 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much sir. I have been seeing different videos on this, but i didn't understand anyone of them. But after watching this video, all my doubts regarding this question are cleared. Thank you so much sir.

  • @georgeb8637
    @georgeb8637 10 років тому +1

    0:00 - 3:00 - Derivative of y= x^x. Awesome

  • @calvinhobbesliker2
    @calvinhobbesliker2 15 років тому

    It just doesn't have a simple formula for the function. It can be expressed as an infinite sum(using taylor series), but not in a finite way.

  • @pipsticles01
    @pipsticles01 14 років тому

    Great video, very easy to understand.

  • @Yu2Kal
    @Yu2Kal 14 років тому

    fantastic problem, ever better solution

  • @Roxas99Yami
    @Roxas99Yami 13 років тому

    @gypsytearss1
    than you just have to start derivating the complex numbers ... ln(-3) is actually a complex number which more precisely is (i*pi) + the integral from 1 to 3 of (1/x)dx ...

  • @Jtking3000
    @Jtking3000 15 років тому

    thats a pretty cool problem made rather straight forward. thanks again salman :-)

  • @ffg9011
    @ffg9011 13 років тому

    Thanks for the tip of the ln y, greetings from Costa Rica.

  • @evivappa
    @evivappa 11 років тому +1

    really helpful!thanks!

  • @fakusb
    @fakusb 12 років тому

    In my opinion it is much simpler to just write x^x as e^(x * ln x) and apply the chain rule...

  • @mdamit7973
    @mdamit7973 6 років тому

    thanks salman .

  • @fiercefirefly
    @fiercefirefly 15 років тому

    Thanks for posting these videos!

  • @Aelfraed26
    @Aelfraed26 12 років тому +4

    Hey Sal there's actually a rule for solving the derivative of a function to the power of another function (u^v):
    d/dx (u^v) = v u^(v-1) du/dx + ln(u) u^v dv/dx

  • @ad2181
    @ad2181 15 років тому

    Excellent.

  • @woodenjaw
    @woodenjaw 15 років тому

    YEAHHH!!! I got it right...
    Thanks Sal!

  • @secantlabs
    @secantlabs 15 років тому

    yeah it is because exponents come first in order of operations. He just put the parentheses so it was more clear.

  • @Cisco121490
    @Cisco121490 14 років тому

    TY, great vid.

  • @someperson188
    @someperson188 7 років тому

    Of course, x > 0. If x < 0, then x^x is a multi-valued
    complex function; if x = 0, then F(x) = x^x can be made continuous by defining F(0) = 1, but the F'(0) from the
    right is -infinity.

  • @stepsdraw5443
    @stepsdraw5443 8 років тому

    You are the best.

  • @kirylb2331
    @kirylb2331 6 років тому

    rewrote x^x as e^(xlnx) and miraculously got the same answer (charted it in desmos). Good times.

  • @potatopassingby
    @potatopassingby 9 років тому +2

    anyone knows which tool he is using to write ? i love the way the letters look , dunno why i just love it and wanna know what he is using

  • @Darksp00n
    @Darksp00n 13 років тому

    you are my hero .. thanks :)

  • @jaweriaahsan9939
    @jaweriaahsan9939 8 років тому

    Thanks!

  • @srh609
    @srh609 12 років тому +2

    why take the natural log of both sides? why not just the regular log?

  • @DerrickFishes
    @DerrickFishes 13 років тому

    best proof i have seen on youtube, nobody else i could find actually explained the product rule part they just wrote it out, so thank you for helping me with my incompetence

  • @amaa2500
    @amaa2500 12 років тому

    woah I get it now thanks!

  • @teeksha4004
    @teeksha4004 5 років тому +1

    I wanted to see multiple logging

  • @peter_castle
    @peter_castle 12 років тому

    you are right

  • @manueljesusarredondo
    @manueljesusarredondo 12 років тому +1

    you don't understand limits. When taking limits you're not supposed to replace the variable by the value it's tending to. 0^(0^0) is not a defined number, but you can try to see if the limit exists.

  • @dragooner4
    @dragooner4 13 років тому

    so the final derivative is x^x(ln x +1) so can u use distributive property and get
    x^x*ln(x)+x^x
    then use log rule and get ln(x^(x^x)) + x^x

  • @ADARSHKUMAR-fv5kv
    @ADARSHKUMAR-fv5kv 7 років тому

    thanks

  • @dektidcom5079
    @dektidcom5079 10 років тому +5

    There are two ways to solve this thing. First is to take log both side of the function and then differentiate and multiply both side by y like you do.
    The second way is my way. First you have y=x^x, this is a function that we cannot deal with because there is no differentiation rule. In fact, there is no formal name to this function. But it looks like exponential function. Yes, it can be changed into an exponential function!
    How can we do that? Well, you should know that log and expo are inverse to each other so e^ln (SOMETHING) is equal to SOMETHING
    So y=x^x become y= e^ln(x^x) = e^(x ln x)
    Now you turn an unnamed function into a familiar exponential function. Just differentiate it and you don't need to move y to any side!

  • @ricardinhovorkes4876
    @ricardinhovorkes4876 7 років тому

    Very nice

  • @MrRenanwill
    @MrRenanwill 12 років тому

    Is not better first take the absolute value of both sides and after use natural logarithm? Then you can derive even in negative value of "y". Am i right? Or this crazy expression does not take negative value?

  • @leeschloss4840
    @leeschloss4840 3 роки тому

    If the movie Inception were a math problem.

  • @dannyboy12357
    @dannyboy12357 14 років тому

    brilliant

  • @libertariantiger
    @libertariantiger 9 років тому +3

    When he takes the natural log of both sides, isn't he restricting the domain of the function to positive numbers?

    • @saddistrict1173
      @saddistrict1173 8 років тому

      thats not necessary if you want the domain also concluded imaginary terms there

    • @pratapsinghkanishk
      @pratapsinghkanishk 6 років тому

      x^x implies that x has to be positive. When i plotted it showed me graph on positive x side only.
      I can find values of some negative numbers like (-2)^(-2). But not for negative fractions. Im still looking for better explanation.
      What is this function called is it an exponential function?

  • @Mernusify
    @Mernusify 14 років тому

    just to say, the actual derivative is......
    X^(X^X+X)(ln X)^2+X^(X^X+X)ln X+X^(X^X+X-1)
    anyways not to confuse you.

  • @PaladinswordSaurfang
    @PaladinswordSaurfang 12 років тому

    x^5
    5x^4
    20x^3
    60x^2
    120x
    120
    0
    ...Derp!

  • @Johnny2tc
    @Johnny2tc 5 років тому

    why natural log vs using log?

  • @denizmengi52
    @denizmengi52 Рік тому

    I am in exam. You're crazy man

  • @pive29
    @pive29 15 років тому

    what is the derivative of 3^(4x)??

  • @peter_castle
    @peter_castle 12 років тому

    the limit is 1

  • @lmq0209
    @lmq0209 13 років тому

    Awesome video! Thank you for posting!

  • @Carebearbull
    @Carebearbull 13 років тому +1

    Yo dawg i herd you like x's, so I put a x to the power of x in yo power of x so you can derive while u derive while u derive.
    - X to the Z - X(z)ibit.
    where Z = X^x

  • @tobiadigun3099
    @tobiadigun3099 11 років тому +4

    salman i graduated from college just cause of you......

  • @Masamursha
    @Masamursha 12 років тому

    nice

  • @Kosekans
    @Kosekans 14 років тому

    @calvinhobbesliker2 Sure, it can. The anti-derivative only can't be expressed in terms of elementary functions.

  • @MrRenanwill
    @MrRenanwill 12 років тому

    Lol Decorating is crazy. And this expression. OMG!
    But cant i deduct your rule with what he teaches in this video? I think i can. D=

  • @munirulalam
    @munirulalam 7 років тому

    What's the difference between x^(x^x) and (x^x)^x? I know its a bit elementary. but help will be apriciated :)

    • @morgard211
      @morgard211 6 років тому

      (x^x)^x = x^(x*x) = x^(x^2)

  • @Swierczewski1
    @Swierczewski1 8 років тому +1

    isnt the dy/dx of x^x just (lnx + 1)

    • @briangonzalez6432
      @briangonzalez6432 8 років тому +1

      Eddie Swierczewski it's close but there's something missing

  • @prathameshsawant5574
    @prathameshsawant5574 8 років тому

    I used chain rule x^(x^x) and I got different answer. dy/dx =x^x(lnx+1)(x^(x^x))(lnx^x+1)

    • @michaelempeigne3519
      @michaelempeigne3519 7 років тому

      d / dx [ x^x ] = x^x ( ln x + 1 )
      so how did you apply chain rule and get that answer ?

  • @jiwonk6910
    @jiwonk6910 9 років тому

    I love Sal

  • @jessicabelfield
    @jessicabelfield 12 років тому

    really helpful! thanks :)

  • @calvinhobbesliker2
    @calvinhobbesliker2 15 років тому

    It just doesn't. I tried to use an online integrator and it failed

  • @ThePimpinGrandpa
    @ThePimpinGrandpa 13 років тому

    @khanacademy One of my stupid friends from class showed my teacher this video and now she wants us to differentiate the long equation at 8:31... omg...

  • @cosmicpaudel9430
    @cosmicpaudel9430 9 років тому +11

    New challenge: Integrate x^x (good luck)

    • @CodexIvory
      @CodexIvory 7 років тому

      Cosmic Paudel does it have an answer? because I'm really curious ~^~

    • @michaelempeigne3519
      @michaelempeigne3519 7 років тому +2

      int [ e^( x ln x ) dx ]

    • @jeeves_wooster
      @jeeves_wooster 7 років тому +1

      There is no answer, it's undefined

    • @jojibot9193
      @jojibot9193 6 років тому

      (x/(x+1))^x+1

  • @MEPS1996
    @MEPS1996 11 років тому +2

    3:30 dont need brackets

  • @YouXKneekXIT
    @YouXKneekXIT 15 років тому

    @ I can help with this...

  • @NORJIE1
    @NORJIE1 12 років тому

    Find the first derivatives of y=x^(x-2).
    can someone shoe the way? i want to compar it with my answer

  • @nandinisharma98
    @nandinisharma98 4 роки тому

    Yaaaaayyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @carelessmorning
    @carelessmorning 15 років тому

    Ah, I see. His older videos seemed to have bad quality. Which is probably when he was just using mouse.

  • @utkarshsoni577
    @utkarshsoni577 8 років тому

    we can also apply " y=e*(logx*x)= e*(xlogx) and then apply chain rule

  • @gautamsinha2264
    @gautamsinha2264 6 років тому

    X° derivation kaise kare

  • @gobberpooper
    @gobberpooper 15 років тому

    he probably has a wacom tablet

  • @gaurobdas1862
    @gaurobdas1862 Рік тому

    🥰

  • @calvinhobbesliker2
    @calvinhobbesliker2 15 років тому

    That integral can't be done.

  • @alecmoge
    @alecmoge 12 років тому

    don't think that [x^x} is different from x^x

  • @raulrobben10
    @raulrobben10 11 років тому

    i think there is a mistake at 6:30 X^x(lnX+1) is NOT the derivative of X^x, it is the derivative of Y = X^x... i think the derivative of X^x is just (lnX+1)

    • @bryannyeap5616
      @bryannyeap5616 7 років тому

      raulrobben10 no... You're wrong it is the derivative of x^x

  • @Roxas99Yami
    @Roxas99Yami 13 років тому

    @Dave67004
    not that hard, no need to understand a rule from just 2 functions, you differentiate x^(nx) and ur done ^_^

  • @Triox-o1x
    @Triox-o1x 2 роки тому

    উদ্ভাস জীবনটা খেয়ে দিলো :|

  • @MrPrincePatrick
    @MrPrincePatrick 11 років тому

    can someone answer this please x^x^x^4
    thanks in advance :)

    • @Maniclout
      @Maniclout 8 років тому

      there's nothing to answer

  • @sanjeevkumarsanjeevkumar5315
    @sanjeevkumarsanjeevkumar5315 4 роки тому

    S

  • @StuartBarter
    @StuartBarter 12 років тому

    No man... we actually want to see it being reduced by naturals logs.... because in an exam they test the method of solving and you won't be able to refer to that (x^x) derivative solution as solved previously.... sigh disappointed...

  • @Scrapingthebottom
    @Scrapingthebottom 13 років тому

    Huh?

  • @Subaangen
    @Subaangen 15 років тому

    does he write with a mouse???

  • @karnayadav1565
    @karnayadav1565 2 роки тому

    L

  • @PaladinswordSaurfang
    @PaladinswordSaurfang 12 років тому

    bad does not rhyme with graph

  • @mqroams
    @mqroams 10 років тому

    i love you bro (no homo)

  • @alternate241
    @alternate241 10 років тому

    why isn't the derivative of x^x just itself? I understand the reasoning here. but it seems like the power rule would yield d/dx(x^x)=x * x^(x-1) which just becomes x^x again. is this just a special case or is there something in the definition of the power rule that doesn't allow it to apply here?

    • @alternate241
      @alternate241 10 років тому +1

      That makes sense, thanks!

  • @arvindrajpoot4856
    @arvindrajpoot4856 6 років тому

    thankyou

  • @sanjeevkumarsanjeevkumar5315
    @sanjeevkumarsanjeevkumar5315 4 роки тому

    S

  • @banshilalgupta3581
    @banshilalgupta3581 6 років тому

    Thanks

  • @sanjeevkumarsanjeevkumar5315
    @sanjeevkumarsanjeevkumar5315 4 роки тому

    S