Haven't had much exposure to wine. My grandad used to make his own wine and give us some at Xmas time. It was clear / yellow tint so I'm guessing white wine, I don't know much more than that. Bought two cheap reds today, just to dip my toes in. No way was I paying for the expensive stuff, not knowing if I'd like it. I randomly chose a Shiraz and a Malbec. Tried the Shiraz in a glass similar size to yours, wasn't impressed on the first sip. I'd imagined wine would taste strongly of fruit, but it tasted very flat and dry. Wasn't unpleasant and I started to enjoy it more with every sip. I'm usually a cider/rum/whisky drinker. I drink to feel that relaxed sensation, just before what people would class as tipsy, not to get drunk. Sadly I overdid it with the rum and whisky on more than one occasion, those wide brim glasses can be deceptive when or comes to portions. Ended up being ill and now I can't drink either rum or whisky without almost gagging, despite the fact I used to love the taste. Was looking for something to satisfy me, certainly looking like wine might be the one for me.
@@wine-living I'm in the North East of the UK. I'm not sure as it was a cheap one. Label says Voyage, Australian Shiraz Mourvedre by Hardy's, 2020. The other, which I haven't tried yet, is an Austrian Trivento Malbec, 2020. Also mention a Mendoza if that helps. Apologies for any mistakes, currently totally clueless when it comes to wine. That will change over time, I'm sure.
@@cheesetoastie9678 awesome, I love both Scotland and England. Your market is different than mine so I'm not sure what you can buy/find in the stores. If you're in England, Tesco has a great selection. My suggestion is to just keep trying things, maybe get a cheap notebook and keep notes. That's how I learned! Hardy's is a pretty big Australian producer and the quality should be pretty good. If you're into Australian wines look for Penfold's and Lindemann's too. And the second wine you mentioned is from Argentina. Mendoza is the largest producer of Malbec in the world, although it is originally a French grape and can still be found in the southwest of France. Check out my other videos to learn more! Cheers!
@@wine-living Thank you, I'll take a look at Tescos. I couldn't say either way at this stage if I'm a fan of Australian wines. It's very nice, despite my first impressions, but I'd have to try others so I have something to compare it with.
Would love a video on what wines are good to drink on their own. I often like to enjoy a glass of wine while reading sometime after dinner or late in the evening.
Hey Ellery, thanks so much for watching. Want a bid, dense red for drinking by itself? Merlot fills the bill. Especially a WA Merlot with tons of dark fruit, vanilla and Damson. Also, Lodi/CA Zinfandel, it's like drinking blackberry pie. Hope this helps?
Love Penfolds! I first started drinking wine in the early 2000s when there was the famous "glut" of wine in Australia. We could buy some Penfolds here in the States for what was the equivalent of $10 a bottle back then. Of course, that was some of the more entry level stuff. Have you ever had Grange before? I haven't but I know it's their best offering.
Thanks! I found it at Home Goods, it's a brand called Fitz and Floyd. They're my favorites! Dunno if the glasses are available anymore, but Wayfair carries similar ones: www.wayfair.com/kitchen-tabletop/pdp/stoelzle-lausitz-experience-24-oz-crystal-stemmed-wine-glass-w002790652.html
I m from Iran and Shiraz is the name of a city in Iran in Fars Province where the most famous wine of the country has been legally, and of course recently illegally, produced for yrs.You can easily google it. شیراز
As someone who has grown in in South Australia, i'm very happy with the regions you mentioned also the fact you featured the Penfold's RWT that wine is amazing no matter what the vintage.
Great video Marc, im a big fan of shiraz I just feel it sits well in any situation. on a separate note I've moved in to tasting Italian wines and in particular from the Puglia region, (Primitivo, Negromara etc) have you done any videos covering these.
Hi Kris, thanks for watching! I recently did another video in this series about Zinfandel/Primitivo from Puglia. This year I'm launching a new series about lesser-known grapes and wines from around the world, and will cover interesting varieties like Negroamaro. Cheers!
Just wanted to thank you for the information on wines. As a person who has only been drinking wines for about 8 months it is greatly appreciated. I would like to see some videos on methods or techniques to use to get the most flavor out of wines and how to describe those flavors. Enjoy the videos and the lengths of the videos are spot on.
James Busby, seen as the father of the Australian wine industry Outside of France, the biggest producer of Syrah in the world is Australia and the wine is always called Shiraz. This can be traced back to a Scot called James Busby who exported Syrah vines from the Hermitage to Australia in the 19th Century. His first consignment of vines was labelled "scyras" which many thought was a misspelling of Syrah. But when I re-read his journal, I came across a line which proved he knew about the Hermitage Persian vine legend. "According to the tradition of the neighbourhood," he wrote. "The plant - scyras - was originally brought from Shiraz in Persia." At that time European wine-makers sometimes imported wine from Persia to add sweetness and body. So perhaps Busby hoped the ancient name Shiraz would add some Persian mystique and flavour to his New World wine-making endeavour. Echoes of Persepolis The United States imported Syrah vines in the 1970s and the wine is always marketed under the Syrah name - with one notable exception. Darioush Khaledi, a son of Shiraz, is the proud owner of a 120-acre vineyard in California's Napa Valley producing what he insists on calling Shiraz wine. "My French friends say Shiraz/Syrah comes from the Rhone and [has] a 500-year-old history," he says. "But if you open an atlas of the world there's only one place in the whole world called Shiraz and it has a 7,000-year-old history of wine growing." www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-38771806
These days my memory sometimes escapes me but wasn't that Doris Day's favourite wine--I recall her singing about it. . . Que Sera, Sera! (Okay, I won't quite my "Doris-Day job") I have always been impressed with Australian wines. I don't have any discretionary cash at the moment--other than monopoly money--so it looks like I might have to wait a bit until I can get my 649 lotto tickets checked. Another informative video, Marc. Thank you. Darryl
Thanks for your videos, Marc! We've been testing out your recommendations in a couple of time and this is our favourite of the series so far! We've found a 2017 Crozes-Hermitage Shirah in our local supermarket in the UK for £12 and it's taste like nothing else I've tried before. I'm really glad to find your channel, so thank you very much to sharing all of these useful information! 🙌
Wow, thanks so much for the compliments, and thanks for watching! Crozes-Hermitage is one of the best in the northern Rhone. Fun fact: Hermitage gets its name from a small chapel in the Rhone, where it is rumored a hermited Medieval Crusader once lived.
Thank you for the informative video. I’ve never tried shiraz but just received a bottle as a gift - Penny’s Hill 2005 from McLaren Vale. Now I know what to expect and more importantly what food to pair it with - a thick ribeye with a bold rub sounds nice!
Maybe the capital of the Persian Empire was named after the grape. Who knows... but the story sounds cooler if the grape variety had come from Shiraz; But it doesn’t as you point out correctly. Syrah is considered a natural crossing of two local French varieties of grapes. Pls do a video about easiest red wines to drink per diff cost categories.
Great suggestion sand thanks for watching! There are a lot of conflicting stories in the wine world, and it makes sense. History is never black and white. And of course, National pride can make people see things that they want to see. Of course people from Iran/Shiraz would like to believe it's their grape/wine. But no matter how much they want it to be true, it isn't. At least as far as we know. Maybe in ten years they'll come out with new info that says it is! It's always a learning process, and in any line of work, the more you learn, the more you understand how little you actually know.
"Shiraz wine refers to two different wines. Historically, the name refers to the wine produced around the city of Shiraz in present-day Iran.[1][2] In the current era, "Shiraz" is an alternative name for the Syrah grape, mostly used in Australia and South Africa. The modern "Shiraz" grape is identical to Syrah and originated in southeast France with no established connection to the city of Shiraz.[3]"
Thanks so much, Arlene! Hope you are staying safe and enjoying lots of great wine these days. Let me know if there's anything in particular you want to learn about.
I think i understand the barnyard thing. i went to a farm once in high school and my hoodie smelled like dust and wood chips after (maybe a touch of cinnamon? idk) and i LOVED it. is that what you meant by barnyard smell?
really getting into these types of wines. Love the subtle tannis, whats one of your favorite afforadable shiraz or syrah that you fine in local grocery store?
@@samuelrodriguez6707 YT has a tiny bit of sugar in it. Even if almost undetectable, people prefer a hint of sweetness in there, as it makes the wine feel smoother.
@@wine-living What about Woodbridge wines? Been digging Robert Mondavi wines. I don’t think they have as much sweetness as yellow tail wines in my experience. You think Woodbridge adds sugar??
I work for a large liquor retailer in Australia. Our shiraz range is twice the size of any other varietal, and three times the size of any other red, with the sales to match. So it's quite surprising to find that it's not so popular in other parts of the world. We also sell hardly any pinot noir, so its popularity is a bit of a shock too. Perhaps peoples' palettes here just trend towards bigger flavours.
Interesting, I gotta wonder if the Judgement of Paris in '76 set the stage for America, because to this day, Cabernet and Chardonnay are the King and Queen of the wine industry in the US. I imagine once California won that competition, the industry just got behind both grapes and pushed. The top sellers today, in USA are Cabernet, Chardonnay, Pinot noir and Pinot Grigio. Americans in general are used to eating artificial foods that have jacked up flavor palates, full of chemicals and flavor enhancers. I believe that often dictates what styles of wines they'll drink, which is why they love bold Cabernet full of oak. I happen to love Shiraz, especially as it gets older and more funky. Cheers and thanks for watching!
That DNA study showed Syra/Shiraz in France (as however defined by samples) is a cross between Dureza and Mondeuse blanche, which Dr Carole Meredith determines was indigenous to France. However, Vitis vinifera (Pinot Noir), Dureza's father, is indigenous to regions of Iran. And it has long been suggested that invading Greeks returned the species into Europe. So that DNA study cannot rule out Syra/Shiraz of France did not have some of its genetic origins in Iran.
Do you have the book, "Wine Grapes," by Jancis Robinson or the Oxford Companion to Wine? Both are great books that shows the origins/family trees for many of these grapes. The Persia/Iran connection is mentioned as one theory, but both books say there is no proof to this day. The name Syrah is more likely derived from Sirah, and then, its original French name, Sirene. "Ser" is an Indo-European root word that means, "a length of time." Probably meaning that the grape takes a long time to ripen. It will be interesting to see if any of this information changes over the years, as they learn more.
What you explained about shiraz wine origin is true only about modern Shiraz/Syrah. But, since ninth century, Shiraz city was one of the pioneers in producing wine. Also, exporting wine from Shiraz city to Europe during 17th century to 19th century by European merchants has been documented.
Thanks Marc just stumbled on your videos , you’re knowledge of all wines is amazing, also I’m a EAGLES FAN I live in Langhorne, Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Hey that's awesome! Hope you're doing ok with all of this mess going on right now. And I'm excited to see what this year's team looks like. Maybe we could get Foles back. Haha Go Birds!!
Hi Marc there is a app you can purchase for about 75.00 a year it’s called harvest host it mostly for people who own RVs motor homes and it’s made up of vineyards all over the country. And they invite you to come with your Rv and park and stay the night,and sample the different wines and purchase bottles.And take in any entertainment and food ,my wife and I and friends of ours sometimes go to a place called Bishop Winery near Quakertown it’s a short distance from where we all live.They are great people and very nice to us , all I can say is always a great evening and a great place to wake up in the morning have our scrapple sandwiches and coffee and head home.
@@tabsbest2322 that's a great idea. I'll check out the app. My mom lives in Q-town and she has an RV. I should let her know! Have you been to Penn's Woods in Brandywine? Or Blue Ridge in the Poconos? Two of my favorite local vineyards.
We have not been to the two places you mentioned,but tell your mother it’s a great app if you are traveling any where you look up the winery or farm and all the information on the place comes up ,the owner’s name phone # and location. Thing to do is call ahead and make sure they can fit your Rv and support the place you stay at some of the kindest people.they love the company.
@@tabsbest2322 both of those wineries make good, drinkable wine and have some beautiful views too. Nice drive for an RV. Thanks for the info and stay safe and healthy in these trying times. Drink plenty of wine!
Most syrah is going to be fairly bold, but for something more fresh and fruity, look for a younger vintage! Anything 2016, 2017 is going to be more vibrant and exhibit lots of purple fruit flavors. I would even suggest trying a Cotes du Rhone blend, which is Syrah and Grenache, making it lighter and more juicy. Hope that helps!
Hi, I sell wine here in South Australia and I absolutely love Shiraz. Of the stuff here, Reds from the Barossa Valley are generally bolder and more full bodied so if you were looking for something closer to medium bodied, you could try something from McClarenvale or a little further down south. Either that or look for a nice blend like a decent GSM.
Yes, it has a lot of tannin which helps cut through fats and refreshes your taste buds for each new bite. Good for sausages and fatty meats like lamb or well marbled steak. I also like it with pasta dishes that use cream sauce for this reason, though most people will recommend a lighter bodied wine that still has either tannin or acid in that case.
The grape variety that grews in France also is available in Shiraz. Mesopotamia (Shiraz) is the original birth place of the wine. In France its perfected, it is sad that after the government change (1979) in Iran they closed all the wine and alcohol production and it is a pity that in shiraz there is no good quality wine production. REAL REAL PITY
Eeeeh… any wine except French, sorry! :-) I know that I make a lot of people angry with this statement, but I find French wines tasting like dehydrated water (compering to the wines coming from Spain, Italie, Peru etc, in which you can taste Sun).
Just Video everyone has a particular preference... I'd say the French wines tend to be more subtle and refined, while Australia has some big, aggressive styles.
Love this series. So I bought a wine Advent calendar and wanted to start learning the wines as I drink them. Today is day #7 and I have Cabernet Sauvignon Syrah (Had no idea what Syrah was) and came across this video. Good stuff man! PS: Eagles suck ;) Go Detroit Lions baby!! Wentz is terrible this year. Just had to give you a little jab lol. Keep it up..
Shiraz wine was first made in Shiraz, Iran from particular Shirazi grapes, so your presentation is pretty inaccurate. However, there have been languages in which Shiraz was pronounced differently, and that doesn't mean the wine didn't come from the city of Shiraz.
I hear this story often Sara. In fact, if read the comments here, you'll see it repeated several times. But the fact is, there's no proof of that at all. In fact, Dr. Carol Meredith of UC Davis has done extensive genealogy on the grape, and it comes from France.
You need to do a lot more research about wines then... there is very reliable evidence that wine making started in Shiraz in at least 2500BC. Unfortunately, content makers like yourself tend to find it easier to gain followers/subscribers by just making things up that no one has heard before. Shiraz wine existed thousands of years before Australia was even discovered LOL
Hey Fred! Two recommendations: My go-to is the Oxford Companion to Wine by Jancis Robinson. It's essentially what I learned from, memorized it from front to back. Second is The Wine Bible by Karen MacNeil. A little more affordable and easy to read. Both would make excellent Christmas gifts. Cheers!
Definitely a good wine, but the SA region is not well-known for its Shiraz. I only have a few minutes in these videos and can't cover everything! Thanks for watching and commenting.
"Shiraz wine refers to two different wines. Historically, the name refers to the wine produced around the city of Shiraz in present-day Iran.[1][2] In the current era, "Shiraz" is an alternative name for the Syrah grape, mostly used in Australia and South Africa. The modern "Shiraz" grape is identical to Syrah and originated in southeast France with no established connection to the city of Shiraz.[3]"
Your explanation is a bit misleading because you say Syrah and Shiraz are the same wine because Australians pronounced the anglicized Schiraz, meant to refer to Syrah, Shiraz. The Anglo-Saxon Schiraz is the Persian Shiraz, and the reason Shiraz and Syrah are now interchangeable is because the French started growing the same Shiraz grapes which, not having been grown in the south west Iran climate, turned out to be extremely similar to Syrah grapes. As such, nowadays, the two wines are almost identical.
actually syrah came from bucksnort Tennesee where it was found by a giant possum that rolled it into a sonic driver through, and they made a snow cone out of it.
O my god Shiraz is a city in Iran. I know the city and one of the best grapes to make red vine grows there. And also you can find the famous red shiraz vine stories in poems and history. How can someone expert doesn't know that. I'm telling it because 100% am sure about it.
I must say I'm not nationalist kind of person and I think names doesn't matter much. Sadly there is no more wine factories in Iran but I'm telling you the shiraz grape farms and the shiraz red wine is from there and people still drink it. I'll be happy to prove it to you. As told before just as a fact nothing nationalist.
@@pouyapetg2725 thanks for watching and providing your input. I know you believe what you're saying 100%, but I've done research on this so many times over the past 10 years and almost every wine expert out there says that Syrah is from France - and has no genetic connection whatsoever to Persia or Iran. Preeminent wine expert Jancis Robinson confirms this repeatedly in both editions of her Oxford Companion to Wine and on her Purple Pages website. One day we may discover it actually is connected, but as of 2022 there is no evidence of that claim. Cheers!!
@@wine-living Thank you for your reply. It means alot to me. I know that syrah wine is produced in france and other things. I dont know even where is the grape from. I have watched your all videos and learned a lot. I just want you to know there is an ancient 2500years city in Iran called Shiraz in all maps of all the time and in peoms of Hafiz and in Herodots Persian part and in my culture this city is famous because of its red wine. It is a holy sacred wine I grow up with it.
There are two meanings of "Shiraz wine": One is the wines historically made near the city of Shiraz in what is now Iran, which centuries ago was a large wine exporter but doesn't have much of a wine industry these days. The second is some wines made from the Syrah grape. "Shiraz" in this case is an English pronunciation of the original name "Syrah." There's no known connection between this grape and the ancient Persian city, indeed as he said in the video, DNA evidence places its origins in France.
Thanks for the video. You seem to have good knowledge about wines but unfortunately your historical knowledge is not as good! The city of Shiraz is never been the capital of Persian Empire. The city you are referring to is called Persepolis and is about 60km away from Shiraz. It is now just ancient ruins! Shiraz in modern time was capital of Iran for short period in 17th century. However, the ancient city of Shiraz has about 4000 years of history as the centre of art in the Persian Empire. It's been famous for it's great poetry, art and delicious wine for thousands of years before Australia was discovered! The Shiraz wine from Persia (Iran) is been named in famous poetry from Omar Khayyam, Hafez and Rumi hundreds of years before any wine makers stepped in Australia and brought the Shiraz grape seeds with them to use it in the similar soil and sun. There are some DNA testing that also verifies this fact. Please get your fact correct before misleading your audience. Or just hold on to wines please. (Drink responsibly!) Regards.
Hi Sha, thanks for the lengthy commentary. I'm confused. Per several sources, Shiraz was the capital of Persia during the Zand dynasty from 1750 until 1800. Under the rule of Karim Khan Zand, who made it his capital in 1762.
@@wine-living You are welcome Marc. I couldn’t help to ask you Marc, just out of curiosity, why would you turn a discussion about wines to a historical/political discussion when you (and not many other apparently) have enough evidence one way or the other?! Wouldn't be more accurate if you said that no one is really sure about the origin of the name? It could be taken from the city of Shiraz or some other theories could also be accurate. Or is there a personal agenda involved here? Anyhow, I would presume that this discussion would be totally void if the name of the wine was “Hamburg wine”, “Paris wine” or “New York Wine” LOL!
@@omid20001 I use several very well-respected and reliable wine books to do much of my research. I think you'd enjoy them! Both are co-written by the world's preeminent wine expert, Jancis Robinson. The Oxford Companion to Wine amzn.to/3ajXe2a Wine Grapes amzn.to/35Zf2fs Anyone who wants to learn about wine would benefit from owning them. I hope you get a chance to check them out.
@@wine-living What would you recommend for a sweet red wine for beginners. One that almost feels as If im drinking grape juice. Good luck to Mr. Wentz out there.
@@ecgodsmack86 if you're in TX there's a winery in MO that makes sweet wines called St. James. They're the biggest winery in MO so you might be able to get them. They have one called Velvet Red you'd probably like. If you want a sweet bubbly wine there's one out of Italy called Brachetto. Nice sweet sparkling wine that's fun for celebrations. Cheers and yes, we're gonna need some help this year... I even wonder if they'll trade Wentz. Something ain't right with him.
When you make a Video and put that here you are responsible to tell people right information, it's not to difficult just need to Google that and read the Valid information for example: Why is it called shiraz wine? Historically, the name refers to thewine produced around the city ofShiraz in Persia/Iran. ... The modern "Shiraz" grape is identical to Syrahand originated in southeast France with established connection to the city of Shiraz in Persia (Iran). It's from: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiraz_win
You need to do a lot more research about wines then... there is very reliable evidence that wine making started in Shiraz, Iran in at least 2500BC. Unfortunately, content creators like yourself tend to find it easier to gain followers/subscribers by just making things up that no one has heard before. Shiraz wine existed thousands of years before Australia was even discovered LOL Your explanation is misleading because you say Syrah and Shiraz are the same wine because Australians pronounced the anglicized Schiraz, meant to refer to Syrah, Shiraz. The Anglo-Saxon Schiraz is the Persian Shiraz, and the reason Shiraz and Syrah are now interchangeable is because the French started growing the same Shiraz grapes which, not having been grown in the south west Iran climate, turned out to be extremely similar to Syrah grapes. As such, nowadays, the two wines are almost identical.
Thanks for your feedback. I spent over twenty years traveling the world and studying. It took me ten years to get my Diploma and my certification. I've done my research. This topic has been discussed extensively by grape Ampelographers (geneticists): The Syrah grape used in France and Australia is from the south of France! The "Shiraz wine" made in Ancient Persia was white. Google, "Is Syrah from Iran," and you'll get multiple entries, including one from Dr. Carol Meredith, one of the world's most renowned grape geneticist. There is a lot of confusion around the name, but these are not the same wines. I appreciate your passionate input and response!
Really enjoyed your relaxed manner and straightforward wine knowledge. Noy too geeky but put layman's terms. Kudos! Keep it up.
Thank you, Edward. Just a regular guy trying to distill (or ferment as it were) a very complex topic. I appreciate the compliment. Cheers!!
Haven't had much exposure to wine. My grandad used to make his own wine and give us some at Xmas time. It was clear / yellow tint so I'm guessing white wine, I don't know much more than that.
Bought two cheap reds today, just to dip my toes in. No way was I paying for the expensive stuff, not knowing if I'd like it.
I randomly chose a Shiraz and a Malbec. Tried the Shiraz in a glass similar size to yours, wasn't impressed on the first sip. I'd imagined wine would taste strongly of fruit, but it tasted very flat and dry. Wasn't unpleasant and I started to enjoy it more with every sip.
I'm usually a cider/rum/whisky drinker. I drink to feel that relaxed sensation, just before what people would class as tipsy, not to get drunk. Sadly I overdid it with the rum and whisky on more than one occasion, those wide brim glasses can be deceptive when or comes to portions. Ended up being ill and now I can't drink either rum or whisky without almost gagging, despite the fact I used to love the taste.
Was looking for something to satisfy me, certainly looking like wine might be the one for me.
Thanks so much for the feedback. Can I ask where you live, and what brand of Shiraz it was?
@@wine-living I'm in the North East of the UK. I'm not sure as it was a cheap one. Label says Voyage, Australian Shiraz Mourvedre by Hardy's, 2020.
The other, which I haven't tried yet, is an Austrian Trivento Malbec, 2020. Also mention a Mendoza if that helps.
Apologies for any mistakes, currently totally clueless when it comes to wine. That will change over time, I'm sure.
@@cheesetoastie9678 awesome, I love both Scotland and England. Your market is different than mine so I'm not sure what you can buy/find in the stores. If you're in England, Tesco has a great selection. My suggestion is to just keep trying things, maybe get a cheap notebook and keep notes. That's how I learned! Hardy's is a pretty big Australian producer and the quality should be pretty good. If you're into Australian wines look for Penfold's and Lindemann's too. And the second wine you mentioned is from Argentina. Mendoza is the largest producer of Malbec in the world, although it is originally a French grape and can still be found in the southwest of France. Check out my other videos to learn more! Cheers!
@@wine-living Thank you, I'll take a look at Tescos.
I couldn't say either way at this stage if I'm a fan of Australian wines. It's very nice, despite my first impressions, but I'd have to try others so I have something to compare it with.
Great site and content.
Thank you, Jonathan!
You’re my first introduction into Wine UA-cam, very informative & helpful :)
Thank you for watching!
Would love a video on what wines are good to drink on their own. I often like to enjoy a glass of wine while reading sometime after dinner or late in the evening.
Hey Ellery, thanks so much for watching. Want a bid, dense red for drinking by itself? Merlot fills the bill. Especially a WA Merlot with tons of dark fruit, vanilla and Damson. Also, Lodi/CA Zinfandel, it's like drinking blackberry pie. Hope this helps?
From Australia here. We love our Shiraz! Barossa Valley is definitely home to some of the best Shiraz and Penfolds is a great brand Shiraz maker (Y)
Love Penfolds! I first started drinking wine in the early 2000s when there was the famous "glut" of wine in Australia. We could buy some Penfolds here in the States for what was the equivalent of $10 a bottle back then. Of course, that was some of the more entry level stuff. Have you ever had Grange before? I haven't but I know it's their best offering.
That wine glass you use looks nice. Where did you get it?
Thanks! I found it at Home Goods, it's a brand called Fitz and Floyd. They're my favorites! Dunno if the glasses are available anymore, but Wayfair carries similar ones: www.wayfair.com/kitchen-tabletop/pdp/stoelzle-lausitz-experience-24-oz-crystal-stemmed-wine-glass-w002790652.html
Thank you!!!!
The shiraz 2019 barossa ink tastes so good. It's a bit sweet and mild. Highly recommended
Love this - Syrah is the most underrated of the big/dark fruited/tannic grape varietals
excellent video, i love shiraz and have drunk gallons down the years but i found this most informative and down to earth
Thanks Simon! It always helps to have a little knowledge. Just enough, not too much.
I m from Iran and Shiraz is the name of a city in Iran in Fars Province where the most famous wine of the country has been legally, and of course recently illegally, produced for yrs.You can easily google it. شیراز
Thanks Hamed. See the above response.
Thanks to religious nut jobs taking over a country with an immense history. Sad
As someone who has grown in in South Australia, i'm very happy with the regions you mentioned also the fact you featured the Penfold's RWT that wine is amazing no matter what the vintage.
Awesome! You cant talk about Shiraz and not mention Australia. I'm glad you found the video helpful!
Great video Marc, im a big fan of shiraz I just feel it sits well in any situation. on a separate note I've moved in to tasting Italian wines and in particular from the Puglia region, (Primitivo, Negromara etc) have you done any videos covering these.
Hi Kris, thanks for watching! I recently did another video in this series about Zinfandel/Primitivo from Puglia. This year I'm launching a new series about lesser-known grapes and wines from around the world, and will cover interesting varieties like Negroamaro. Cheers!
Just wanted to thank you for the information on wines. As a person who has only been drinking wines for about 8 months it is greatly appreciated. I would like to see some videos on methods or techniques to use to get the most flavor out of wines and how to describe those flavors. Enjoy the videos and the lengths of the videos are spot on.
James Busby, seen as the father of the Australian wine industry
Outside of France, the biggest producer of Syrah in the world is Australia and the wine is always called Shiraz.
This can be traced back to a Scot called James Busby who exported Syrah vines from the Hermitage to Australia in the 19th Century.
His first consignment of vines was labelled "scyras" which many thought was a misspelling of Syrah.
But when I re-read his journal, I came across a line which proved he knew about the Hermitage Persian vine legend.
"According to the tradition of the neighbourhood," he wrote. "The plant - scyras - was originally brought from Shiraz in Persia."
At that time European wine-makers sometimes imported wine from Persia to add sweetness and body.
So perhaps Busby hoped the ancient name Shiraz would add some Persian mystique and flavour to his New World wine-making endeavour.
Echoes of Persepolis
The United States imported Syrah vines in the 1970s and the wine is always marketed under the Syrah name - with one notable exception.
Darioush Khaledi, a son of Shiraz, is the proud owner of a 120-acre vineyard in California's Napa Valley producing what he insists on calling Shiraz wine.
"My French friends say Shiraz/Syrah comes from the Rhone and [has] a 500-year-old history," he says. "But if you open an atlas of the world there's only one place in the whole world called Shiraz and it has a 7,000-year-old history of wine growing."
www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-38771806
Love your series
Thanks for watching!
These days my memory sometimes escapes me but wasn't that Doris Day's favourite wine--I recall her singing about it. . .
Que Sera, Sera! (Okay, I won't quite my "Doris-Day job") I have always been impressed with Australian wines. I don't have
any discretionary cash at the moment--other than monopoly money--so it looks like I might have to wait a bit until I can
get my 649 lotto tickets checked. Another informative video, Marc. Thank you.
Darryl
Thanks so much for this series! I'm a wine newbie and your videos are by far the most helpful.
You're welcome! I'm glad you're learning something. Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks for your videos, Marc! We've been testing out your recommendations in a couple of time and this is our favourite of the series so far! We've found a 2017 Crozes-Hermitage Shirah in our local supermarket in the UK for £12 and it's taste like nothing else I've tried before. I'm really glad to find your channel, so thank you very much to sharing all of these useful information! 🙌
Wow, thanks so much for the compliments, and thanks for watching! Crozes-Hermitage is one of the best in the northern Rhone. Fun fact: Hermitage gets its name from a small chapel in the Rhone, where it is rumored a hermited Medieval Crusader once lived.
Dear Marc
May I know what’s different between Shiraz and Cabernet Shiraz?
Thanks
Hello Bong. Shiraz and Cabernet are two completely different grapes, genetically.
You the man, I’m right outside of Philly in the jersey side in Camden. Nice to see the eagle fly in your shirt
Thanks brother! Hopefully they have a better season in 21... Go Birds!
Thank you for the informative video. I’ve never tried shiraz but just received a bottle as a gift - Penny’s Hill 2005 from McLaren Vale. Now I know what to expect and more importantly what food to pair it with - a thick ribeye with a bold rub sounds nice!
You're welcome! Let me know if it met your expectations, and how it worked with the food!
I think you found an excellent format with these videos. I hope you will return with videos of at least grenache and tempranillo
Syrah and Cabernet are my two favorite styles of red wine. Good video brother
Thanks for watching, my friend!
Maybe the capital of the Persian Empire was named after the grape. Who knows... but the story sounds cooler if the grape variety had come from Shiraz; But it doesn’t as you point out correctly. Syrah is considered a natural crossing of two local French varieties of grapes. Pls do a video about easiest red wines to drink per diff cost categories.
Great suggestion sand thanks for watching! There are a lot of conflicting stories in the wine world, and it makes sense. History is never black and white. And of course, National pride can make people see things that they want to see. Of course people from Iran/Shiraz would like to believe it's their grape/wine. But no matter how much they want it to be true, it isn't. At least as far as we know. Maybe in ten years they'll come out with new info that says it is! It's always a learning process, and in any line of work, the more you learn, the more you understand how little you actually know.
"Shiraz wine refers to two different wines. Historically, the name refers to the wine produced around the city of Shiraz in present-day Iran.[1][2] In the current era, "Shiraz" is an alternative name for the Syrah grape, mostly used in Australia and South Africa. The modern "Shiraz" grape is identical to Syrah and originated in southeast France with no established connection to the city of Shiraz.[3]"
I love your explanations and have learned so much about wines from your videos.
Thanks so much, Arlene! Hope you are staying safe and enjoying lots of great wine these days. Let me know if there's anything in particular you want to learn about.
hi what is the year on the label mean
Thank you for very clear and understandable video.
Thanks for watching Maja!
Which red wine is best for skin
Not sure I understand the question?
Great talk! If you have a chance go to Epernay and visit the Moet et Chandon house! Last summer I was in Porto, as well, drinking port and surfing!
Thanks for watching Vito! I've been to Moet before, cool place to visit. Didn't know you could surf in Porto??
I think i understand the barnyard thing. i went to a farm once in high school and my hoodie smelled like dust and wood chips after (maybe a touch of cinnamon? idk) and i LOVED it. is that what you meant by barnyard smell?
Yes, but it's more animal than that too. Have you ever ridden a horse, or pet a horse before? They have a very distinct smell. It's like that.
Great video! I love Aussie Shiraz
Thank you Kath!!
Love the way you explain and the detail.
You are awesome! Keep up the awesome work.
Thanks so much for watching D!
really getting into these types of wines. Love the subtle tannis, whats one of your favorite afforadable shiraz or syrah that you fine in local grocery store?
Welcome back to the latest installment in my series!! Do you drink Syrah or Shiraz? Which do you prefer?
Syrah...Specifically Corvidae Wine Co. Lenore 2016 Syrah from Washington State...It’s a bit mellower and smoother than the typical Syrah...
Shiraz. I’m a newbie so Yellow Tail Shiraz is my go-to. I know that is a cheap Shiraz, but I’ve tasted more expensive wines that are not as good.
@@samuelrodriguez6707 YT has a tiny bit of sugar in it. Even if almost undetectable, people prefer a hint of sweetness in there, as it makes the wine feel smoother.
I absolutely love Woop Woop Australian Shiraz. Ever had it?
@@wine-living What about Woodbridge wines? Been digging Robert Mondavi wines. I don’t think they have as much sweetness as yellow tail wines in my experience. You think Woodbridge adds sugar??
I work for a large liquor retailer in Australia. Our shiraz range is twice the size of any other varietal, and three times the size of any other red, with the sales to match. So it's quite surprising to find that it's not so popular in other parts of the world. We also sell hardly any pinot noir, so its popularity is a bit of a shock too. Perhaps peoples' palettes here just trend towards bigger flavours.
Interesting, I gotta wonder if the Judgement of Paris in '76 set the stage for America, because to this day, Cabernet and Chardonnay are the King and Queen of the wine industry in the US. I imagine once California won that competition, the industry just got behind both grapes and pushed. The top sellers today, in USA are Cabernet, Chardonnay, Pinot noir and Pinot Grigio. Americans in general are used to eating artificial foods that have jacked up flavor palates, full of chemicals and flavor enhancers. I believe that often dictates what styles of wines they'll drink, which is why they love bold Cabernet full of oak. I happen to love Shiraz, especially as it gets older and more funky. Cheers and thanks for watching!
I’m Australian and I’ve tried all the reds and homegrown Shiraz is by far my favourite with Merlot a distant second.
@@Fornax70 I love Aussie Shiraz! For something new you should check out Italian Syrah from the northern part of the country. Very interesting.
That DNA study showed Syra/Shiraz in France (as however defined by samples) is a cross between Dureza and Mondeuse blanche, which Dr Carole Meredith determines was indigenous to France.
However, Vitis vinifera (Pinot Noir), Dureza's father, is indigenous to regions of Iran. And it has long been suggested that invading Greeks returned the species into Europe. So that DNA study cannot rule out Syra/Shiraz of France did not have some of its genetic origins in Iran.
Do you have the book, "Wine Grapes," by Jancis Robinson or the Oxford Companion to Wine? Both are great books that shows the origins/family trees for many of these grapes. The Persia/Iran connection is mentioned as one theory, but both books say there is no proof to this day. The name Syrah is more likely derived from Sirah, and then, its original French name, Sirene. "Ser" is an Indo-European root word that means, "a length of time." Probably meaning that the grape takes a long time to ripen.
It will be interesting to see if any of this information changes over the years, as they learn more.
What you explained about shiraz wine origin is true only about modern Shiraz/Syrah. But, since ninth century, Shiraz city was one of the pioneers in producing wine. Also, exporting wine from Shiraz city to Europe during 17th century to 19th century by European merchants has been documented.
Thanks Marc just stumbled on your videos , you’re knowledge of all wines is amazing, also I’m a EAGLES FAN I live in Langhorne, Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Hey that's awesome! Hope you're doing ok with all of this mess going on right now. And I'm excited to see what this year's team looks like. Maybe we could get Foles back. Haha Go Birds!!
Hi Marc there is a app you can purchase for about 75.00 a year it’s called harvest host it mostly for people who own RVs motor homes and it’s made up of vineyards all over the country. And they invite you to come with your Rv and park and stay the night,and sample the different wines and purchase bottles.And take in any entertainment and food ,my wife and I and friends of ours sometimes go to a place called Bishop Winery near Quakertown it’s a short distance from where we all live.They are great people and very nice to us , all I can say is always a great evening and a great place to wake up in the morning have our scrapple sandwiches and coffee and head home.
@@tabsbest2322 that's a great idea. I'll check out the app. My mom lives in Q-town and she has an RV. I should let her know! Have you been to Penn's Woods in Brandywine? Or Blue Ridge in the Poconos? Two of my favorite local vineyards.
We have not been to the two places you mentioned,but tell your mother it’s a great app if you are traveling any where you look up the winery or farm and all the information on the place comes up ,the owner’s name phone # and location. Thing to do is call ahead and make sure they can fit your Rv and support the place you stay at some of the kindest people.they love the company.
@@tabsbest2322 both of those wineries make good, drinkable wine and have some beautiful views too. Nice drive for an RV. Thanks for the info and stay safe and healthy in these trying times. Drink plenty of wine!
Enjoyable 😃
Thanks for your video!! Where would you start your search for a lighter, less earthy Syrah?
Most syrah is going to be fairly bold, but for something more fresh and fruity, look for a younger vintage! Anything 2016, 2017 is going to be more vibrant and exhibit lots of purple fruit flavors. I would even suggest trying a Cotes du Rhone blend, which is Syrah and Grenache, making it lighter and more juicy. Hope that helps!
Hi, I sell wine here in South Australia and I absolutely love Shiraz. Of the stuff here, Reds from the Barossa Valley are generally bolder and more full bodied so if you were looking for something closer to medium bodied, you could try something from McClarenvale or a little further down south. Either that or look for a nice blend like a decent GSM.
Syrah pairs great witb sausage and potatoes am i correct?
Thank you your did helping me BIG TIME!
Yes, it has a lot of tannin which helps cut through fats and refreshes your taste buds for each new bite. Good for sausages and fatty meats like lamb or well marbled steak. I also like it with pasta dishes that use cream sauce for this reason, though most people will recommend a lighter bodied wine that still has either tannin or acid in that case.
Grenache Syrah cuvées are so good (yes I spend some time in the languedoc...)
Im a chef that needed to beef up his wine knowledge so this was great
Great work bro👍
Thanks Sachin!
The grape variety that grews in France also is available in Shiraz. Mesopotamia (Shiraz) is the original birth place of the wine. In France its perfected, it is sad that after the government change (1979) in Iran they closed all the wine and alcohol production and it is a pity that in shiraz there is no good quality wine production. REAL REAL PITY
Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate the insight.
Great,i am wine lover👍
What about Penfold wines, is this good
Thank you for watching!
any Australian red wine is always great and I love the jacobs creek reserve and wines from maclarenvale
Thanks for watching Andrew!
Top top love your channel
Thank you for watching!!! Cheers 🍷
Thank you
Love it! I plan on braising it with some beef short ribs 😋
Thanks for watching!
Great video, love Syrah.
Me too! I prefer the French expression, especially St. Joseph. Do you have any favorites?
Eeeeh… any wine except French, sorry! :-) I know that I make a lot of people angry with this statement, but I find French wines tasting like dehydrated water (compering to the wines coming from Spain, Italie, Peru etc, in which you can taste Sun).
Just Video everyone has a particular preference... I'd say the French wines tend to be more subtle and refined, while Australia has some big, aggressive styles.
I live in shiraz
Love this series. So I bought a wine Advent calendar and wanted to start learning the wines as I drink them. Today is day #7 and I have Cabernet Sauvignon Syrah (Had no idea what Syrah was) and came across this video. Good stuff man! PS: Eagles suck ;) Go Detroit Lions baby!! Wentz is terrible this year. Just had to give you a little jab lol. Keep it up..
Thanks for watching, Chris, and I'm really glad you learned something. And YES Eagles suck this year. They need to bench Wentz. Shoulda kept Foles!!
In Australia Hunter valley make some interesting shiraz
Shiraz wine is for Shiraz, Iran.
Hi Mac, pls have a study and research South Africa’s wine producing past.
Shiraz wine was first made in Shiraz, Iran from particular Shirazi grapes, so your presentation is pretty inaccurate. However, there have been languages in which Shiraz was pronounced differently, and that doesn't mean the wine didn't come from the city of Shiraz.
I hear this story often Sara. In fact, if read the comments here, you'll see it repeated several times. But the fact is, there's no proof of that at all. In fact, Dr. Carol Meredith of UC Davis has done extensive genealogy on the grape, and it comes from France.
You need to do a lot more research about wines then... there is very reliable evidence that wine making started in Shiraz in at least 2500BC. Unfortunately, content makers like yourself tend to find it easier to gain followers/subscribers by just making things up that no one has heard before. Shiraz wine existed thousands of years before Australia was even discovered LOL
I know I shouldn’t like this... but I do..
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Good video man!
What is the best wine book to learn about wine?
Hey Fred! Two recommendations: My go-to is the Oxford Companion to Wine by Jancis Robinson. It's essentially what I learned from, memorized it from front to back. Second is The Wine Bible by Karen MacNeil. A little more affordable and easy to read. Both would make excellent Christmas gifts. Cheers!
Like the T shirt.
Off subject but GREAT shirt.
Haha! Thank you!! Philly 'burbs, born N bred!! Cheers and thanks for watching.
Marc Supsic's Wine Living S. Jersey here. Go Phillies
wow how insightful, thank you.
Thank you Devin! Any other questions about wine? I'll be happy to help.
What about South African Shiraz?
Definitely a good wine, but the SA region is not well-known for its Shiraz. I only have a few minutes in these videos and can't cover everything! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Shiraz is a Lebanese singer. And she is HOOOOOT 🔥🔥🔥
"Shiraz wine refers to two different wines. Historically, the name refers to the wine produced around the city of Shiraz in present-day Iran.[1][2] In the current era, "Shiraz" is an alternative name for the Syrah grape, mostly used in Australia and South Africa. The modern "Shiraz" grape is identical to Syrah and originated in southeast France with no established connection to the city of Shiraz.[3]"
I'm pretty sure that's what I said in the video? But, thanks for watching and commenting.
Your explanation is a bit misleading because you say Syrah and Shiraz are the same wine because Australians pronounced the anglicized Schiraz, meant to refer to Syrah, Shiraz. The Anglo-Saxon Schiraz is the Persian Shiraz, and the reason Shiraz and Syrah are now interchangeable is because the French started growing the same Shiraz grapes which, not having been grown in the south west Iran climate, turned out to be extremely similar to Syrah grapes. As such, nowadays, the two wines are almost identical.
Drinking it right now (easy Jacob's Creek)
actually syrah came from bucksnort Tennesee where it was found by a giant possum that rolled it into a sonic driver through, and they made a snow cone out of it.
Huzzah! Pairs best with possum!?!
@@wine-living Or curly fries.
Nice. I love curly 🍟
You finally did it. Cheers!
Michael Jay San Pablo cheers and thanks for watching!
You are the best
Great content! Keep educating!
Thank you, Andy G!
O my god
Shiraz is a city in Iran. I know the city and one of the best grapes to make red vine grows there. And also you can find the famous red shiraz vine stories in poems and history. How can someone expert doesn't know that. I'm telling it because 100% am sure about it.
I must say I'm not nationalist kind of person and I think names doesn't matter much. Sadly there is no more wine factories in Iran but I'm telling you the shiraz grape farms and the shiraz red wine is from there and people still drink it. I'll be happy to prove it to you. As told before just as a fact nothing nationalist.
@@pouyapetg2725 thanks for watching and providing your input. I know you believe what you're saying 100%, but I've done research on this so many times over the past 10 years and almost every wine expert out there says that Syrah is from France - and has no genetic connection whatsoever to Persia or Iran. Preeminent wine expert Jancis Robinson confirms this repeatedly in both editions of her Oxford Companion to Wine and on her Purple Pages website. One day we may discover it actually is connected, but as of 2022 there is no evidence of that claim. Cheers!!
@@wine-living
Thank you for your reply. It means alot to me. I know that syrah wine is produced in france and other things. I dont know even where is the grape from. I have watched your all videos and learned a lot. I just want you to know there is an ancient 2500years city in Iran called Shiraz in all maps of all the time and in peoms of Hafiz and in Herodots Persian part and in my culture this city is famous because of its red wine. It is a holy sacred wine I grow up with it.
As a Persian guy I feel shame for myself that I've never tasted Shiraz wine
This is my fav😋
Shiraz wine comes from the city Shiraz in Persia! The city has been popular for its tasty wins for thousands of years.
Love your videos!! And even Better you're a Birds fan! Lets go E-A-G-L-E-S!
Go birds! LOL
Shiraz wine came from Shiraz in Iran. It has been a very famous Persian wine from thousands of years ago, PLEASE do not spread wrong knowledge. :\
There are two meanings of "Shiraz wine": One is the wines historically made near the city of Shiraz in what is now Iran, which centuries ago was a large wine exporter but doesn't have much of a wine industry these days. The second is some wines made from the Syrah grape. "Shiraz" in this case is an English pronunciation of the original name "Syrah." There's no known connection between this grape and the ancient Persian city, indeed as he said in the video, DNA evidence places its origins in France.
Iranian wine is great
Barnyard? Ewwww. Where can I buy your wine glass?
Thanks for the video. You seem to have good knowledge about wines but unfortunately your historical knowledge is not as good! The city of Shiraz is never been the capital of Persian Empire. The city you are referring to is called Persepolis and is about 60km away from Shiraz. It is now just ancient ruins! Shiraz in modern time was capital of Iran for short period in 17th century. However, the ancient city of Shiraz has about 4000 years of history as the centre of art in the Persian Empire. It's been famous for it's great poetry, art and delicious wine for thousands of years before Australia was discovered! The Shiraz wine from Persia (Iran) is been named in famous poetry from Omar Khayyam, Hafez and Rumi hundreds of years before any wine makers stepped in Australia and brought the Shiraz grape seeds with them to use it in the similar soil and sun. There are some DNA testing that also verifies this fact. Please get your fact correct before misleading your audience. Or just hold on to wines please. (Drink responsibly!) Regards.
Hi Sha, thanks for the lengthy commentary. I'm confused. Per several sources, Shiraz was the capital of Persia during the Zand dynasty from 1750 until 1800. Under the rule of Karim Khan Zand, who made it his capital in 1762.
@@wine-living sorry Marc, perhaps I wasnt clear anough. I made some clarifications. Regards
@@omid20001 thanks for the info!
@@wine-living You are welcome Marc. I couldn’t help to ask you Marc, just out of curiosity, why would you turn a discussion about wines to a historical/political discussion when you (and not many other apparently) have enough evidence one way or the other?! Wouldn't be more accurate if you said that no one is really sure about the origin of the name? It could be taken from the city of Shiraz or some other theories could also be accurate. Or is there a personal agenda involved here? Anyhow, I would presume that this discussion would be totally void if the name of the wine was “Hamburg wine”, “Paris wine” or “New York Wine” LOL!
@@omid20001 I use several very well-respected and reliable wine books to do much of my research. I think you'd enjoy them! Both are co-written by the world's preeminent wine expert, Jancis Robinson.
The Oxford Companion to Wine
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Wine Grapes
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Anyone who wants to learn about wine would benefit from owning them. I hope you get a chance to check them out.
Barnyard? no thanks.... i'll stick with my Merlot.
Go Birds!
Go birds!
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They'll probably have a better year than Philly that's for sure. Philly looks pretty bad this year LOL.
@@wine-living What would you recommend for a sweet red wine for beginners. One that almost feels as If im drinking grape juice. Good luck to Mr. Wentz out there.
@@ecgodsmack86 if you're in TX there's a winery in MO that makes sweet wines called St. James. They're the biggest winery in MO so you might be able to get them. They have one called Velvet Red you'd probably like. If you want a sweet bubbly wine there's one out of Italy called Brachetto. Nice sweet sparkling wine that's fun for celebrations. Cheers and yes, we're gonna need some help this year... I even wonder if they'll trade Wentz. Something ain't right with him.
@@wine-living Appreciate the recommendations brother, Hey Maybe Donovan McNab will come out of retirement jk. Good luck and stay blessed
@@ecgodsmack86 haha. You too.
When you make a Video and put that here you are responsible to tell people right information, it's not to difficult just need to Google that and read the Valid information for example:
Why is it called shiraz wine?
Historically, the name refers to thewine produced around the city ofShiraz in Persia/Iran. ... The modern "Shiraz" grape is identical to Syrahand originated in southeast France with established connection to the city of Shiraz in Persia (Iran).
It's from:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiraz_win
Shiraz is the name of a city in iran and not just how australians pronounce it, read your sources well before making a video
You might want to watch the video and actually listen to what I said, before commenting.
Me and my wife just got a bottle of shiraz wine or however you spell it and we didn’t like it at all 🤢🤮
You need to do a lot more research about wines then... there is very reliable evidence that wine making started in Shiraz, Iran in at least 2500BC. Unfortunately, content creators like yourself tend to find it easier to gain followers/subscribers by just making things up that no one has heard before. Shiraz wine existed thousands of years before Australia was even discovered LOL
Your explanation is misleading because you say Syrah and Shiraz are the same wine because Australians pronounced the anglicized Schiraz, meant to refer to Syrah, Shiraz. The Anglo-Saxon Schiraz is the Persian Shiraz, and the reason Shiraz and Syrah are now interchangeable is because the French started growing the same Shiraz grapes which, not having been grown in the south west Iran climate, turned out to be extremely similar to Syrah grapes. As such, nowadays, the two wines are almost identical.
Thanks for your feedback. I spent over twenty years traveling the world and studying. It took me ten years to get my Diploma and my certification. I've done my research. This topic has been discussed extensively by grape Ampelographers (geneticists): The Syrah grape used in France and Australia is from the south of France!
The "Shiraz wine" made in Ancient Persia was white.
Google, "Is Syrah from Iran," and you'll get multiple entries, including one from Dr. Carol Meredith, one of the world's most renowned grape geneticist. There is a lot of confusion around the name, but these are not the same wines.
I appreciate your passionate input and response!
Nice voice, wrong info.
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