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  • @delacyfans
    @delacyfans 7 місяців тому +88

    The boy that nobody wanted, not his mother, not his brother and not his father that sent him back to those monsters - makes me cry that his life meant so little to them 😭💔

    • @AmandaWilson-j3j
      @AmandaWilson-j3j 6 місяців тому +7

      The boy that nobody wanted but the same boy that EVERYBODY Wanted 🥺

    • @ClaraSheard-yc8ij
      @ClaraSheard-yc8ij 5 місяців тому +6

      He is with God ,the one that truly loves him.

    • @kelleyabitbol6156
      @kelleyabitbol6156 5 місяців тому +2

      Hunny I cry too but he’s in a better place , I know it’s such a cliche but I truly believe this hun , he has to be

    • @kelleyabitbol6156
      @kelleyabitbol6156 5 місяців тому +3

      @@AmandaWilson-j3j I would’ve loved to have that boy in my home. I would’ve taken such good care of him, shown him so much fun .. took him on outings, fishing, camping, movies , game places, I would’ve shown that child so much fun, how good life can be, fed him so much good food…. I would’ve loved that child. I’ve always wanted to adopt a child who would want my love.

    • @mamieharrell6676
      @mamieharrell6676 4 місяці тому +1

      I no exactly how Timmy felt it breaks my heart why not get inhome help pay for it out of his ssi check I no he was own ssi come own but I guess check went for other things more guilty then him and momma sick crap

  • @I-serve-you-tea
    @I-serve-you-tea 7 місяців тому +299

    Beautiful tribute. I wish timothy could know how the world loves him.

    • @harvest5151
      @harvest5151 7 місяців тому +16

      Screw this world! He's better off with Jesus Christ where he is right now, safe and sound.

    • @texasterri2002
      @texasterri2002 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@@harvest5151Whoa!

    • @IndecentAngels
      @IndecentAngels 7 місяців тому +17

      I believe Timothy knows. 🤍

    • @nikkijohnson4933
      @nikkijohnson4933 7 місяців тому +14

      I firmly believe that he does

    • @dilyaramarsh7770
      @dilyaramarsh7770 7 місяців тому +6

      A little too late, unfortunately…

  • @Rita-yw2tn
    @Rita-yw2tn 7 місяців тому +129

    Just look at that precious little boy then tell me why would anyone want to ever hurt him ? He’s a blessing sent from heaven and instead of loving and caring for him she tortured him to death ! It’s beyond me why she would do that to him I’ll never understand it ! RIP sweet little angel you will never be forgotten . 🕊️💔

    • @starflower703
      @starflower703 7 місяців тому +7

      I can’t wrap my head around it either. However, the Bible is clear some were made to love God and some were meant for destruction. That indicates some people can’t be saved and sometimes it’s okay to give up.

    • @blackleague212
      @blackleague212 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@starflower703Shanda examined it... He was sent to her house for being " bad" in the first place.
      Shanda gets 0 sympathy but she does explain it to a certain extent. Timothy was smart but also crafty. He took apart things and messed with the household.
      Shanda should've put him in school and got him on meds but 1 he wasn't supposed to even be there and 2 Shanda didn't pay for his report cards to be released from Oklahoma.

    • @gingerblair2932
      @gingerblair2932 7 місяців тому +3

      How could anyone betray their own child like she did? Horendous!

    • @suzymoroka297
      @suzymoroka297 7 місяців тому +6

      @@blackleague212he was bored! High functioning autistic kid with ADHD needs a lot of stimulation and activities to channel all his energy. He needed attention, affection and to make friends outside the that house of horrors

    • @Rulya-HaShem-Morrigan
      @Rulya-HaShem-Morrigan 7 місяців тому +3

      To look at that sweet, adorable face & want it to be full of the worst pain, extreme fear, confusion, such terrible suffering, crying, etc. Only a real, true monster could do that.

  • @TheIsraelProphetess
    @TheIsraelProphetess 7 місяців тому +98

    I have two boys with autism. Tears just fell from my eyes looking at all the pictures of Timothy. What a beautiful child with such a beautiful soul. I hope he knows he is loved by me and many others who have been deeply impacted by this case. I can honestly say in all my life and all the child abuse cases I’ve heard this is the worst. It has left a lasting impression on me. I weep for this child as if he was my own. God rest his soul. We love you Timothy.

    • @deannapalazzetti2018
      @deannapalazzetti2018 7 місяців тому +9

      Everything you just said is exactly how I feel.
      We have three (out of five) children on the spectrum. This case still continues to affect me very much.

    • @tierneyjunior7114
      @tierneyjunior7114 7 місяців тому +10

      Another fellow autism mama here , I feel the same way...😭 I have gone over this case relentlessly. I'll see something like hot sauce or I'll get hungry for lunch and say to myself oh Tim I'm so sorry...💔😩 I cannot fathom how someone like her exists.

    • @moirapicking1876
      @moirapicking1876 7 місяців тому +6

      I feel the same

    • @wioi
      @wioi 7 місяців тому +1

      You should also check out the Takoda Colins case! That one is absolutely horrific

    • @angellawyer
      @angellawyer 7 місяців тому +3

      We all suffer from collective trauma by now i fear. If i speak for myself i feel so much sadness these days. I was thinking of J.J. Vallow and the last weeks of his life after i read the comments. I don't want to look away. Trying to undergo and understand. I hope that these beautiful children can feel our collective love now indeed.😢

  • @CBrown86
    @CBrown86 7 місяців тому +98

    You can see in his eyes how pure and loving he was. The evil in his mother couldn’t stand the good in him. Shine on forever Timothy ✨❤

    • @TheIsraelProphetess
      @TheIsraelProphetess 7 місяців тому +7

      He was never her son. He was always Gods son.

    • @UBwalkswiththeKing
      @UBwalkswiththeKing 7 місяців тому +2

      Wow, that's so true. His pure heart was a constant irritation to her black heart and spirit. Her claims of abuse are hard to believe. The dominance allegations of Eric were probably her reflection of her own wants. The fact SHE lost custody of her children. She must've abused them to never regain full custody again. Cold, cold heart.

    • @aprilholton1150
      @aprilholton1150 7 місяців тому +2

      And now Timothy is back with our Father in heaven being taken care of!!@@TheIsraelProphetess

    • @timeatakacs5633
      @timeatakacs5633 6 місяців тому

      ​@@TheIsraelProphetess❤

    • @sierram5458
      @sierram5458 6 місяців тому +2

      His former teachers said he was a sweetheart and just YEARNED for attention and affection. He was constantly dirty, smelly and hungry.

  • @Zmom1998
    @Zmom1998 7 місяців тому +292

    His father should be held responsible too. She wasn’t even suppose to have Timothy without supervision. But yet he gave Timothy to her.

    • @aleac617
      @aleac617 7 місяців тому +34

      I’ve been wondering why he hasn’t been charged or if he will be soon !

    • @pleasedpopper4521
      @pleasedpopper4521 7 місяців тому +3

      Was he the guy who's crippled?? I think they just have pity on him for having a stroke....

    • @LuminosityDreams
      @LuminosityDreams 7 місяців тому +13

      ​​@@pleasedpopper4521 that was a step father Paul & Timothy's bio dad is across states I don't recall how far away he handed Timothy over to shanda apparently because he couldn't manage -her words

    • @JanelleJames-tv7nx
      @JanelleJames-tv7nx 7 місяців тому +27

      Why wasn’t Timothy’s father called to testify during the trial, since he wasn’t held partially responsible?

    • @LuminosityDreams
      @LuminosityDreams 7 місяців тому +27

      @@JanelleJames-tv7nx that is what baffles me too! He clearly needs to be held responsible for going against court orders that all seems to be unknown!

  • @LuannCriger
    @LuannCriger 7 місяців тому +92

    She turned Paul into her husband and you can hear it when he testified. Everything was “we” and “us” when speaking about Timothy, as if he was was also responsible for how Timothy was being raised.

    • @meirles
      @meirles 7 місяців тому +21

      Crazy that she really checked all the abusive tactics on the list-- parentification, emotional incest, scapegoating, golden child, triangulation.... like a freaking case study.

    • @angellawyer
      @angellawyer 7 місяців тому +1

      Paul was with Timothy longer in his life then Shanda and at least in earlier years s.a.-ng him. It's so sad. How can we protect children better. Why did nobody checked on Timothy? They could easily hide his body and tell he run away if they wanted to. Glad they called 911. I hope G is safe now! 😢

    • @VictoriaMarch13
      @VictoriaMarch13 7 місяців тому +6

      I caught that in his interrogation. He said things like "we did what we thought was best" "we tried everything"... I thought it was strange!

    • @mah3223alia
      @mah3223alia 7 місяців тому

      That's what narcissists can do ....they create a " defacto husband".....it's emotional incest.

    • @christina5197
      @christina5197 7 місяців тому +5

      I heard somewhere she was inappropriate with Paul. That could explain his weirdness to some degree.

  • @juliemclaughlin5782
    @juliemclaughlin5782 7 місяців тому +52

    I loved it in the police bodycam when Shanda inserted that she clerked for a judge, trying to impress the police and he just replied with a dull "oh". I'm sure that pissed her off.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 7 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, she is ridiculous. Like name dropping the judge she worked for is going to change what she did, and make her more innocent.

    • @angellawyer
      @angellawyer 7 місяців тому

      That judge must feel something seeing his clerk like that​... she didn't show up at work after that moment @@NikkiC777

    • @ScissorWhit
      @ScissorWhit 6 місяців тому +6

      She also randomly inserted a random “my father in law is an attorney” between her fake cries about “how could this have happened, could teens really hide that they’re starving themselves to death?”
      And the cop responded the same to her father in law comment. He probably clocked it on the spot.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ScissorWhit Yep, I noticed those comments too, when watching that video for the first time. She is so gross with her lies, and self centeredness, and all the horrible things they did.

  • @RV-there-Yet
    @RV-there-Yet 7 місяців тому +97

    Zav~ you really did SUCH a great job w/this intro...this loving tribute to Timothy Ferguson. Seriously~this young man is loved in memorium like no other~ thanks to you. Your efforts in researching, composing all of these posts, as well as discussing w/us as we all try to understand the who, how- & most importantly- WHY of such a grotesque tragedy.
    So dang impressed w/your dedication, especially since I know it's not always been easy for you. Yet you keep showing up, regardless, & it's a solid example of not allowing evil to go unchecked. Timothy had no one to stand in the gap for him while he was here, but we are now & forever more. This child will NOT be forgotten, his life matters. His memory matters, and so does justice~ which is why we're all here for it. It matters.This kind of attention brings awareness to & helps show what to look for, which could very well prevent this from happening to even one more. We must not turn away, uncomfortable as it is. THANK YOU.
    Sam in AZ
    #JustShowUp

    • @blackleague212
      @blackleague212 7 місяців тому +11

      I honestly got the hot sauce Timothy was forced to eat, and I truly cried and prayed fo him when I ate a piece of bread with this sauce. You cannot eat this hot sauce. I cried for Timothy, prayed for him for a long time .

    • @Mel-jy3kq
      @Mel-jy3kq 7 місяців тому +6

      @@blackleague212 Do you believe Timothy had hyposensitivity? I did some research and it's actually a thing in some people with autism? "Hyposensitivity can manifest itself in several ways which includes a lack of response to sensations such as pain, touch, smell and sound. Sensory hyposensitivity can be harder to detect in children because it may not produce the same challenging behaviour or meltdowns as hypersensitivity. Some children with hyposensitivity are unable to recognise their own hunger, fullness, or if they need to use the toilet. A child with hyposensitivity may be accidentally injured and show barely any reaction to the pain, even if the injury is sometimes quite severe."

    • @SheezaPI
      @SheezaPI 7 місяців тому

      @@Mel-jy3kqI’m grateful for your comment. I’ve raised two granddaughters with autism and now have a great grandson with autism. This will help me tremendously to be the best advocate I can be for my great grandson.

    • @ElizabethFort-v6n
      @ElizabethFort-v6n 6 місяців тому

      Paul was a child molester

  • @beanj580
    @beanj580 7 місяців тому +37

    Timothy was a beautiful child. My son is diagnosed with adhd and autism. Some days are so hard, but I cannot imagine doing what she did. I'm so sorry Timothy. Zav girl, that was a beautiful tribute to Timothy.

  • @donw3912
    @donw3912 7 місяців тому +47

    The memorial at the beginning was done so beautifully. It is good having more pictures of Timothy younger with that big smile. How anyone could do that to a kid let alone their own is beyond me.
    If even half of what the family friend you mention here is true...those kids didn't stand a chance at all. Seeing Nolan and Millie give impact statements was so good to see...they definitely love Timothy. I know he is in the best place possible and I will not forget that face.
    The monster got her dues but I do hope Paul gets the help he badly needs and has been getting that help since his arrest.
    Rest in peace Timothy...you are very much missed.

    • @LynetteA68
      @LynetteA68 7 місяців тому +1

      If you go listen to Paul’s phone calls from jail you’ll see he’s literally NOTHING like he was when he testified!! He was ACTING like he had some type of disability and his calls make it VERY clear he has NO disability whatsoever!! His phone calls shocked me and it pissed me off that I ever thought of him as a victim in this horrific crime!!! He was a WILLING participant and in his phone calls to his brother he doesn’t ever bring Timothy up once but does talk about the horrible food (after staving his brother) and how his jail mates are uncaring and lack compassion (cuz they didn’t care when his whiny ass sprained his ankle) as if HE’S this caring compassionate person!! !!

    • @lilwhiskrs
      @lilwhiskrs 7 місяців тому +1

      If he had any compassion for his disabled brother he would have alerted the Police. He was mad being told he had to move from his father's house at 18yrs old but of course his brother would not obviously because of his disability. He didn't want to fend for himself. Went to live with his Mother who did not raise him. I believe he was totally complicit in harming and demeaning his brother right up to his death.

    • @angellawyer
      @angellawyer 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@LynetteA68exactly! That's what infuriates me most now. Many 'professionals' in the media concluded that Paul was more a victim with cognitive disabilities based on his performances during interrogations and in the witness'stand. They are so wrong. Big mistake.
      I agree with you. There's much more then meets the eye. 😮

    • @jessicavincent3985
      @jessicavincent3985 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@LynetteA68I suddenly felt like it was a facade and had a light bulb shock during the part I watched of cross examination - If that's what it's called. His act was slipping and started using a vastly different style of communication & displayed a fake ignorance.

    • @firetruck988
      @firetruck988 5 місяців тому +1

      He's getting the help he needs in jail where he belongs, and I'm sure the other inmates are a part of that "help".

  • @Peaches.523
    @Peaches.523 7 місяців тому +19

    I was leaning that Paul need leniency but not after the phone calls. Shanda didn’t care and neither did Paul.

  • @Ash_426
    @Ash_426 7 місяців тому +19

    I still don't understand how Shanda can complain about her ex husband being a control freak, given what she did to control every single aspect of her son's life, down to timing his trips to the restroom. 🙄

  • @nikkijohnson4933
    @nikkijohnson4933 7 місяців тому +46

    I cant get over how Paul looked SO DIFFERENT in his interrogation compared to how he looked on trial. He himself looks emaciated. His cheekbones are pronounced

    • @rainbows9060
      @rainbows9060 7 місяців тому +16

      I know,it's really strange,he has a boyish look and charm in his interrogation video,whilst on the stand,he looked like something ghoulish out of the Munsters.

    • @13ritneyanne
      @13ritneyanne 7 місяців тому

      That POS (Paul) had countless Tiktok videos of him scarfing down Ramen, test tasting candy etc with a freaking locked fridge in the background! They had a literal wall of soda pop in the room Paul did Tik Tok dances. His stepmother also said Paul was the biggest bully she ever met and he was horrible to Timothy. Paul was fed and taken care of.

    • @LynetteA68
      @LynetteA68 7 місяців тому +28

      Go listen to his jail phone calls!! They’re disgusting!! He was nothing more than an actor when he testified!! He’s looking for sympathy to get a light sentence!! I felt sorry for him but after hearing his calls (where he never even mentions Timothy) with his older brother I feel ZERO sympathy for him!! He was a willing participant & just as evil as his “mom!”

    • @LynetteA68
      @LynetteA68 7 місяців тому +14

      @@rainbows9060he’s evil!!! His jail phone calls prove he was a good actor while testifying though!! He’s hoping they feel sorry for him and give him a light sentence or probation!! He implies it on his phone call to his older brother where btw he doesn’t even mention Timothy ONCE!! 🤬🤬🤬

    • @sharynkoren2054
      @sharynkoren2054 7 місяців тому

      ​@@LynetteA68all he does is beg for money, never says thank you to the people supporting his commissary, complains about food and the cold...entitled murderer

  • @kasslue1877
    @kasslue1877 7 місяців тому +51

    Why? How? I just can't! Rest peacefully sweet little guy! You deserved none of it! Hold him close God!

  • @whydotheycallyoupsychokeil4884
    @whydotheycallyoupsychokeil4884 6 місяців тому +5

    Thank you so much for the pictures of him smiling😊 I hope he knows so much that he has given to me so much I have thought so much about this that I actually thought of getting a tattoo that says never forget and then Timothy's name the time that he has spent on Earth has not been in vain, I hope he is happy and smiling up where he belongs looking down and hopefully knowing how much he touched us all!!!!❤❤❤

  • @Janelsw77
    @Janelsw77 7 місяців тому +44

    This is sooo messed up! Nowhere in the bible does it say for husbands to hit their wives! In fact it says: Husbands, love your wives as Christ loves the church! Colossians 3:19
    "Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them."

    • @Rita-yw2tn
      @Rita-yw2tn 7 місяців тому

      Exactly ! I’ve never read that in the Bible that you’re supposed to beat your wife .

    • @cupsoflove1245
      @cupsoflove1245 7 місяців тому

      Wives submit yourself to your husband..sorry but gross 🤢

  • @suzymoroka297
    @suzymoroka297 7 місяців тому +41

    Paul was the ENFORCER.

  • @sharonmm3054
    @sharonmm3054 7 місяців тому +28

    There are truly many cases of horrific and unimaginable
    child neglect, abuse, and murder. They all break my heart, but there's something different here. My heart is totally broken with this one.
    The beginning of this had me in tears. It is hard to believe that such a monster could give birth to such innocence and beauty. I wish someone could have saved him.
    Many of us can only take solace knowing that your pain has ended, every tear wiped from your eyes, and that you are now at peace. dear Timothy.
    Lots of love and squeezy hugs from all of us down here that have come to know and love you.
    Rest in Peace. ❤

    • @TheIsraelProphetess
      @TheIsraelProphetess 7 місяців тому +5

      I agree. Something is different about this case. My heart won’t let it go. God is trying to tell us something and I hear it loud and clear. This world needs to change. Their need to be harsher punishments for child abuse. Laws must be put in place for special needs children that protects them more effectively. If someone could make a law that the public school system has to check up on kids that are homeschooled. Like they must do week it meetings or something mandatory by law. The world as it is cannot go on.

  • @forgodandcountry9704
    @forgodandcountry9704 7 місяців тому +12

    The father should face charges. He KNEW Shanda was only to have SUPERVISED visitations.
    He KNEW she was charged with child abuse.

  • @Dejablu4u
    @Dejablu4u 7 місяців тому +13

    God took him home to rescue him from his hell on earth! 🥲❤🙏🏻 You are home with your Heavenly Father where you belong! Rest easy Timothy! ❤️🙏🏻❤️

  • @louettesommers8594
    @louettesommers8594 7 місяців тому +14

    Oh please! I am a 73 year old Christian woman who was married to a Christian husband for 45 years when he died.
    I have NEVER heard of any of this cr**.
    This is disgusting to even think that someone who loves The Lord Jesus Christ would ever consider this horrible act. 🤢🤮

    • @ZavGirl
      @ZavGirl  7 місяців тому +7

      I know I hope you aren’t taking this the wrong way . Just bc they are using this hiding behind the Bible pretending that’s what it says doesn’t mean it does or that most of us think that . A lot of these type groups hide behind the guise of religion. It doesn’t make it true . It’s just what it is . It doesn’t make it right .i hope you know im not saying i agree with it im just showing you what it is . It doesn’t make it right or that bc im showing you that i believe in it not at all . But these groups do exist . It’s just the way our crazy world is . People take religion and try to use it for their benefit by manipulating what it says to manipulate people

    • @louettesommers8594
      @louettesommers8594 7 місяців тому

      Thank you. No it’s all good but the cra* doesn’t have anything to do with Christian Marriage, unless they are involved in a cult. 😵‍💫 crazy. Please don’t take my comment wrong, you did nothing wrong in sharing this. Please know that my comment wasn’t meant to be critical of you.

    • @firetruck988
      @firetruck988 5 місяців тому +2

      Antisocial personalities often use religion (not just Christianity) as a front to hide and/or justify their behavior. The key point here is they will simply use whatever belief system is prevalent, don't for 1 second assume that her religious beliefs extend anywhere beyond what is publicly visible.

  • @michellecrowe6142
    @michellecrowe6142 7 місяців тому +8

    I have a son with autism and ADHD. I stayed at home for 14 yrs because I knew nobody would understand him and be patient with him like I did. Shanda is evil. She should’ve understood Timothy and gave him extra special love. Instead she showed him nothing but hatred and disgust and she deserves to be right where she is. In prison

  • @annette2326
    @annette2326 7 місяців тому +12

    Shanda is a sadist. No question. The father should be prosecuted for child endangerment.

  • @MCBoftheDMV
    @MCBoftheDMV 7 місяців тому +23

    I think the info revealed by the old family friend just confirms many of our suspicions, and I don’t think you need to “vet” that person for the info to be valid. Thank you for continuing to deep dive this case, it honestly helps, even if just a little bit, to digest the awfulness of it all. We can’t understand human behavior if we don’t explore the how and why, so thank you again for your continued coverage of this case.

    • @ZavGirl
      @ZavGirl  7 місяців тому +7

      I agree . I was just saying I wasn’t able to but you are right it doesn’t mean that the info isn’t true . But you have to keep in mind people do pretend for diff reasons. Sometimes it seems pointless to make things up but I’ve seen it all having my channel , things I would never ever think people would do or make up bc they seem pointless and a waste of time but people do it for diff reasons . So I just wanted to make sure you all knew that I don’t know who this person is so I wanted you all to make your own decision on what you think . Bc a lot of times creators are trusted so if you trust me you are gonna trust what I say and that’s a big responsibility so I wanted to make sure that you all know I can’t confirm this person or what they say . But anyways with that being said I do believe this person but that’s just my opinion . And also thank you for your donation 😘I got it . That was very kind of you to donate . I really appreciate it

    • @dianealarcon8304
      @dianealarcon8304 7 місяців тому +4

      We did hear from the two eldest adult children at her sentencing. They spoke of her mistreatment, and felt horrible to leave their siblings, but needed to leave for their own sanity and well-being.
      Abuse can be generational, some get out by the skin of their teeth, some become abusers, and some die by the hands of their abusers. So sad.

  • @sheryldalton8965
    @sheryldalton8965 7 місяців тому +41

    "He's really good at hiding stuff" even though he's monitored 24\7 with cameras to make sure he doesn't sneak food or move out of an uncomfortable position. This walleyed witch brings out my sadistic tendencies.

    • @SedB101
      @SedB101 6 місяців тому +2

      Mine too!

    • @firetruck988
      @firetruck988 5 місяців тому +1

      Just a thought about that - if he's a celiac, and she was forcing him to eat food that would make him sick, he might hide the fact that he wasn't eating, as she would punish him for that. Or maybe to get real food, he had to eat food that was literally poison to him? Just trying to put myself in her sadistic mind and how she thought these rediculous statements made sense.

    • @firetruck988
      @firetruck988 5 місяців тому

      maybe she was trying to use the celiac to kill him so she could claim ignorance when the autopsy showed he was having food he just couldn't have? But eating her food would have hurt more than going hungry, so naturally he "chose" to starve to death instead. Not that the police were going to accept that as an excuse anyway.

  • @robinlynn1319
    @robinlynn1319 7 місяців тому +7

    I cant even watch shandas act on the steps..her blubbering is so absurd

  • @tennysonparks2059
    @tennysonparks2059 7 місяців тому +10

    Why hasn't the father who gave him to her been held to justice?

  • @emeraldblue5291
    @emeraldblue5291 7 місяців тому +8

    How are we discussing Shanda being frigid about sex in one breath but then their marital sex toys & BDSM relationship in the next?! That doesn't make sense to me.

  • @scruff3760
    @scruff3760 7 місяців тому +20

    I’m confused, if they lived a submissive lifestyle and he was agreeing to parenting classes surely Shanda would have done as she’s told and attended. These adults are all messed up and responsible for what happened to varying degrees. Shame on them all.

    • @mainecoon6514
      @mainecoon6514 7 місяців тому +3

      And they had the audacity to call themselves christian! LWOP is too good for her, Vander Ark is sadistic.

    • @joycemarie9702
      @joycemarie9702 7 місяців тому +4

      She was not submissive in the relationship…. I believe she may have “role-played “ at being submissive but she was the dominant. She liked being in control of everything that her children did every minute of the day.

  • @ClariceStarling45
    @ClariceStarling45 7 місяців тому +14

    He was stronger than she was … she couldn’t break him 💙

    • @wioi
      @wioi 7 місяців тому +2

      I mean, I get what you tried to do with that comment but sorry, it's not true. She literally broke him! She killed him!

  • @StephaniePoston
    @StephaniePoston 6 місяців тому +5

    What a beautiful young man he was. Oh how much someone would have loved to have him as their son. RIP Timothy. I will never forget you.

  • @TheBeautifulBernice
    @TheBeautifulBernice 7 місяців тому +30

    RIP in heaven young man 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @SweetUniverse
    @SweetUniverse 6 місяців тому +3

    Yup- some of us are abused & get through life without abusing anyone else. My bff Eve was horribly abused as a child & was one of the sweetest & kindest people I've met in 60 yrs.

  • @Hollysmum1211
    @Hollysmum1211 7 місяців тому +18

    What a beautiful tribute to this little Angel! Rest easy sweet boy ❤ My heart breaks for the suffering you endured!!💔 God is holding you so close and tight!

  • @barbhurst4367
    @barbhurst4367 7 місяців тому +11

    Beautiful! I'm praying Timothy is getting ALL the LOVE he DESERVED. He was DENIED ANY LOVE here!! Vander Ark WILL remain, with ALL of her thoughts and visions, LOCKED UP FOREVER!! I'm sorry we couldn't find you sooner Timothy! Vengeance is the Lord's and she SHOULD BE VERY SCARED for judgement day!!!! Rest with the angels Timothy.❤️

  • @RocknRolla2023
    @RocknRolla2023 7 місяців тому +12

    Such a poor performance on the steps not a tear in her eye!!! MONSTER.

  • @maryannmorley5586
    @maryannmorley5586 7 місяців тому +8

    He didn’t not have a chance from the moment he was born! Everyone failed this baby! My heart is crushed! Can’t even imagine that either parent didn’t want him! He was a beautiful boy! Five kids when they didn’t deserve one of them!!! 😭

  • @jenniferthompson6280
    @jenniferthompson6280 7 місяців тому +22

    what a beautiful memorial ..cry..

    • @peregrine7303
      @peregrine7303 7 місяців тому +3

      Oh God , embrace.him❤❤❤❤😂😂

    • @peregrine7303
      @peregrine7303 7 місяців тому +1

      Love your lovely videos,

  • @SaysWho1013
    @SaysWho1013 7 місяців тому +11

    She keeps rubbing her eyes pushing on them trying to make them look red and swollen

  • @sunandmoon238
    @sunandmoon238 7 місяців тому +13

    I will never-ever understand how a parent, let alone a mother can hurt her own child. A mother that carries her child for 9 months, gives birth to him.....when you hold your baby in your arms for the first time, that feeling is like nothing else in this world. I just don't get it. There is/should be a connection between a mother and child that is not comparable to any other connection....it's just beyond comprehension how a mother can do what that monster did to that poor soul 😢 Parents' job is to protect their children, not harm them!

    • @amberb071
      @amberb071 22 дні тому

      I wonder if Timothy's diagnosis had anything to do with it? Like a denial and shame that oh this child is imperfect...

  • @susiefoxy8130
    @susiefoxy8130 7 місяців тому +10

    I wonder how Nolan’s marriage is doing, all this family issues being aired. I do feel for him and what he went through ..same as the other children. What a shitshow of an up bringing!

    • @rainbows9060
      @rainbows9060 7 місяців тому +8

      Iv been wondering about that also, all their friends knowing about the horrible history, also. It must be hard for the wife to look at him now, knowing he messed with his sister that way, what if they have little girls, generational trauma is a thing, they are going to need a lot of counciling in that marriage if it is going to succeed.

  • @Rulya-HaShem-Morrigan
    @Rulya-HaShem-Morrigan 7 місяців тому +9

    He was the cutest little guy, such a sweet face. May that sweetheart RIP. Lovely tribute to him. Thank you so much for making that. 💕

  • @EmeraldSkies67
    @EmeraldSkies67 7 місяців тому +5

    She cant even fake crying!! Prison justice is around the corner, im praying!!

  • @jewelsalessio7056
    @jewelsalessio7056 7 місяців тому +14

    I absolutely think Paul was abusive physically, mentally, and emotionally towards Timothy. I think he liked having power over him. He felt like he had a purpose and he was important enough for his mom to depend on him . I think he should absolutely be in jail. He was mature enough to keep a job and keep everything hidden. He never took food home or told anyone about the treatment of Timothy when he had an opportunity everyday when he was able to leave the house. I don't buy he's incapable of understanding his wrong doings. Give him 30 years!

    • @gingerblair2932
      @gingerblair2932 7 місяців тому +1

      Me either. He's an adult&could've saved his brother&gotten out!

  • @adalineproulx9773
    @adalineproulx9773 7 місяців тому +6

    She graduated top of her class yet had no clue theyd see all her and pauls texts as she lied.

    • @Shazzie_Rose
      @Shazzie_Rose 6 місяців тому

      She believed she could explain them away and the jury would believe her.

    • @florencepi6232
      @florencepi6232 5 місяців тому

      I'd love to see the proof she was so good. I don't believe it at all. Her son said she was very intelligent and I don't believe that either. I mean, she thought people would believe Timothy d*ed of a hunger strike and that she and Paul didn't see anything!

  • @FungusAmungus-fl8iy
    @FungusAmungus-fl8iy 7 місяців тому +10

    The inappropriateness you're referring to, that feeling you have between shanda and Paul is called emotional incest. It's very common in narcissistic family dynamics. She has put Paul in the male "fatherly" role of the household in a way only a narc can. My mom has done this with my brother. Hes 46 years old, lives with her, hasn't had a job in almost 20 years, and literally just emptied a 9mm inside her house last week shooting at "the imminent threat," his own son (my nephew). I stopped all contact with them completely 5 years ago, but I have endless stories about this dynamic. My brother is more of a grandiose malignant narcissist, like Shanda, where my mom is very covert. I was the family scapegoat, and finally walked away. The police aren't done with the investigation yet but I think he's going to face some fairly serious charges. It's about damn time.

    • @Mel-jy3kq
      @Mel-jy3kq 7 місяців тому

      Is your nephew ok???

    • @FungusAmungus-fl8iy
      @FungusAmungus-fl8iy 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Mel-jy3kq yeah, he and my mom had both gotten out of the house before he started shooting. I'm not totally sure on all of the details of what happened yet because I don't talk to any of them, but my nephew has told my dad his version of what happened. I've tried to get the police report to see the whole story but they won't release it yet as it's still an open investigation. Ironically, this happened during the crumbley trial. I feel like these are the kinds of things that happen when mental health issues go unchecked, especially narcissists. They'll take things to the ultimate level, and feel perfectly justified doing it.

    • @phoenixkali
      @phoenixkali 7 місяців тому

      Wow you could be writing my life! Everything resonates with me( except the nephew, i havent got that) I don’t contact my brother any more after mum died. He threatened me and he refused to move out to liquidate the assets of her estate. It’s in the hands of the courts now but the waiting for closure is infuriating. Even though mum had cancer I’m sure it was aggravated by stress living with him and his threats of abuse.

    • @SheezaPI
      @SheezaPI 7 місяців тому

      @@phoenixkalisame with my family. My cousins are fighting over my 97 year old aunt’s estate. My one cousin had a weapon, she told me he said look at this Ruger, and shot it right next to her head, a year before she died, claimed it was accidental, but I know it was not. I was the executor of her estate and I got the h out of there before they decided to off me. They said the will “got lost” while she was in the hospital.
      Some families have enough skeletons in the closet that come out when there’s a crisis and chaos ensues.
      Best wishes to both of you. it’s not easy.

  • @K-a-n-d-i-s
    @K-a-n-d-i-s 7 місяців тому +7

    I struggled through the beggining with the lovely tribute for Timothy, you could see he didnt have a bad bone in his body and deeply craved affection from others, my son is also Autistic and they seemed very similar except my son is only 10 and non verbal, yeah things can get stressful at times but I could never EVER even THINK of doing anything like that to my son, knowing that they likely would never do the same to you if the tables where turned 💔😢😢💔
    RIP Timothy. You where to good for this world, im so sorry you had to suffer like you did while you where here. ❤

  • @beanj580
    @beanj580 7 місяців тому +10

    Shanda's sister did not say their biological father sexually abused Shanda. She said the step father, so the bio Dad could be a lie

    • @ZavGirl
      @ZavGirl  7 місяців тому +5

      Yes I know I read exactly what she says . But it does show that atleast the other stuff was true so yeah she didn’t say the bio dad I read it out on this video so you can see . It does say step dad . I think the possibility of the bio dad is good too just my opinion . But regardless the stepdad and other stuff is still enough . Not a good upbringing . I wish we could stop this in families it created this cycle of abuse that just keeps going on and it’s so sad .

    • @beanj580
      @beanj580 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ZavGirlagree! Some break the cycle, but many continue it. It certainly answers many of our questions in reference to how Shanda and Paul could commit such atrocities

  • @miafinnigan5277
    @miafinnigan5277 6 місяців тому +2

    Your tribute to Timothy was so beautiful! It made me cry! This entire case was very interesting but THANK YOU Zav Girl... For remembering the most important part of it.

  • @carlstewart6480
    @carlstewart6480 6 місяців тому +2

    No tears, good actresses can cry with real tears

  • @shaker-sister
    @shaker-sister 4 місяці тому +2

    A lot of what Paul says is a dramatic performance up to "if I could trade places with him, I'd do it in a Dadgum heartbeat".

  • @SummerMayDay
    @SummerMayDay 7 місяців тому +6

    Shanda SAd her children (hence why they were taken away from her). She taught them how to do it to each other Nolan to Millie, Paul to Timothy. So the fact that G was sleeping in her bed with her every night after his dad left is very worrying.

    • @jamiepender6667
      @jamiepender6667 4 місяці тому +1

      Do you know this for a fact or just speculation? I’d love to know where you got this information if there’s like a link or video or something! (I’m not questioning you, I’m just saying I’d love to read more into what all went on as far as all of that bc I have thought there was something weird between her and Paul and I’d love to see a source that breaks it down)

  • @Mel-jy3kq
    @Mel-jy3kq 7 місяців тому +8

    Making Nolan (a child himself) look after his younger siblings is a form of child abuse to all the children. This was while she stayed home all day too! When Paul developed reactive attachment disorder. None of what she went through excuses what she did to her CHILDREN. Why have children, just to treat them so disgustingly. They're just objects to her, and her "love" is extremely unfair and conditional. She didn't try to get help for Timothy's conditions whatsoever. She's complete opposite of a mother/parent/caregiver.

    • @merriferrell2818
      @merriferrell2818 7 місяців тому +1

      Some people have children for the sole purpose of abusing them

  • @pmweir
    @pmweir 7 місяців тому +5

    I guarantee you that Shanda will thrive in the prison, making money off inmates as a prison lawyer, and I'm sure she will also write a tell tale book about her life to make even more money.

  • @LuannCriger
    @LuannCriger 7 місяців тому +8

    And this idiotic thing is throwing Paul under the bus by blaming him for what she’s done to him. Indoctrination as it’s best.

    • @LynetteA68
      @LynetteA68 7 місяців тому +2

      Ha…..if I were you I’d go listen to his jail calls to his older brother!! I felt sorry for him but after hearing his calls that ended immediately!! He’s just as evil as his mom but was a GREAT actor on the witness stand!! His jail calls will make any normal person sick!!!

  • @jordanziegra7624
    @jordanziegra7624 7 місяців тому +5

    What you said about Nolan and Paul being used by that monster, I believe is the reason why Nolan continues to speak to Paul. He has directly knowledge of what it is like to be under her thumb.

    • @ZavGirl
      @ZavGirl  7 місяців тому

      Yeah that’s a really good point

  • @queserasera7395
    @queserasera7395 7 місяців тому +4

    I will never understand why parents dont just surrender a child when the only feeling they have towards them is despise. This poor lil guy never had a chance when everyone that should have loved him only despised him. Literally everyone.

    • @tasch280
      @tasch280 6 місяців тому

      Well from one of the phonecalls Paul had with someone (not sure who) it sounds like maybe she thought there would be a financial advantage to having him there. I don't know how true that is. But definitely suggested by Paul. Certainly seems to be true in many other neglect/abuse cases that the parents only wanted custody for financial reasons. Obviously any decent parent knows that it costs way more to raise a child than any financial incentive that there might be.

  • @mah3223alia
    @mah3223alia 7 місяців тому +3

    " how could he do that to me"? 😮😮 Relieved she's locked up for life

  • @brendaholmes5709
    @brendaholmes5709 6 місяців тому +1

    I have a 13 year old autistic son and you have done a beautiful job showing timothy so very happy❤❤

  • @lizzieb21
    @lizzieb21 7 місяців тому +4

    I’m amazed at how many people forget a leopard rarely changes its spots.
    Re: once Shanda married Adam, she was magically a good person and mother. 🙄

  • @girlmama.
    @girlmama. 6 місяців тому +2

    Oh my gawwd the body cam video of Shanda is RIDICULOUS!

  • @jankasza5538
    @jankasza5538 7 місяців тому +5

    Father should be charged! He broke the law!

  • @nichole9943
    @nichole9943 7 місяців тому +3

    They should play that tribute over and over in shanda and Paul's jail cells.

  • @christineber3429
    @christineber3429 7 місяців тому +3

    It's heart wrenching how an abused child can still find some solace in their heart to smile for a picture😢😭😭😭😭

  • @sharynkoren2054
    @sharynkoren2054 7 місяців тому +4

    Timothy was blond with a round face and different nose from the other kids and the last child of this marriage allegedly. Anyone wonder if Tim was the result of an affair?
    That was why he was so hated. I wouldnt put anything past Shanda

    • @Mel-jy3kq
      @Mel-jy3kq 7 місяців тому +1

      I've always wondered if he had Prader-Willi syndrome, read the wiki page. "Light skin and hair relative to other family members" among other things.

    • @sharynkoren2054
      @sharynkoren2054 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Mel-jy3kq usually Prader Willi syndrome causes obesity. He was of normal weight before Shanda slowly starved him to death

  • @nancydaniel4716
    @nancydaniel4716 7 місяців тому +3

    Im so happy the judge showed a picture of a smiling Timothy. I cried. I feel like ive been through his horrendous death, now i see smiling Timothy with our Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ. I had to forgive Shanda because i had such hatred in my heart toward her and Paul. Timothy eyes said HE forgave them. After i saw the sweetness in Timothy i started fearing Shanda might take her own life. 🙏 that she doesnt. Prayers for the family, including Shanda and Paul

  • @JaneDoe-tm6px
    @JaneDoe-tm6px 7 місяців тому +17

    Thank you zav ❤
    Rest in peace timothy ❤

  • @niania7022
    @niania7022 5 місяців тому +1

    This was beautiful! You're doing a great job covering this case. Just wanted to say Timothy has beautiful big blue eyes. I don't know how anybody could hurt this child looking into those eyes.

  • @sandraolivacce4559
    @sandraolivacce4559 6 місяців тому +2

    Rest in Peace Tomothy. You are free from the monsters nightmares are made off. Fly high with the Angels, you are protected now.How anyone could hurt a child is something I will never understand.

  • @jamiepender6667
    @jamiepender6667 4 місяці тому +1

    Who the hell says when their son is dying and emaciated “I can show you his work online” nothing says I’m guilty like talking shit about your dying child and fake blubbering and blathering to the cops intermittently sounding completely normal and careless.

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 5 місяців тому +3

    she got a full scholarship, that`s not putting herself through school.
    there is no proof that she was abused, it`s all her word.

  • @6AlphaMikeCharlie9
    @6AlphaMikeCharlie9 5 місяців тому +2

    Damn that scared me when paul popped up on the screen like that 🤣

  • @TombRaider666
    @TombRaider666 7 місяців тому +8

    I’m dying that you put the worlds frumpiest schoolgirl in the thumbnail 😂😂 that picture cracked me up when I first saw it, the cringe is real

    • @Wolfpack674
      @Wolfpack674 7 місяців тому +1

      Creates images in my head I don't wanna see lol 😂

  • @gingerblair2932
    @gingerblair2932 7 місяців тому +4

    Thankyou for showing the beautiful&precious pictures of Timothy! I love him-precious child!♥️⚖️

  • @sharonkaywhitson
    @sharonkaywhitson 7 місяців тому +11

    ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL INTRO ZAV

    • @ceciliahyde7127
      @ceciliahyde7127 7 місяців тому +1

      That poor little boy looked sad and neglected back then. This was cruel and calous treatment of this poor sweet little child. I can't believe that he went under the radar for so damn long. His Mother and brother need the same done to them. 💔💔😢😢😢😢

  • @gretchentrubee3387
    @gretchentrubee3387 7 місяців тому +4

    The father should be in prison with Paul and thier so called mother.!! Timothy should not have been with her.

  • @Shazzie_Rose
    @Shazzie_Rose 6 місяців тому +1

    The reason why Paul enjoyed staying with Shanda more than his dad is because he felt like he was on the same level as Shanda in the house - as a dominant over Timothy and G - and could bully and torture Timothy anyhow he wanted and Shanda would encourage it. He enjoyed that power. It was only when he realized that Timothy was so thin and weak, that he got scared and tried to advice Shanda (as an equal) that they needed to actually feed Timothy now.

  • @anythingforselenas806
    @anythingforselenas806 7 місяців тому +3

    I don’t believe Paul is as innocent as he tries to appear.

  • @sandeeclingerman2992
    @sandeeclingerman2992 7 місяців тому +2

    Dear sweet blue eyed darling...we all feel so very sad that your time on earth was so horrible. So very glad you are now in a place of love...

  • @ashleypg1708
    @ashleypg1708 7 місяців тому +4

    I like how the judge pointed our how no one showed up for Timothy during the trial and it bothered him, so he was grateful his siblings gave impact statements.
    I think the judge was pointing the finger at you, dad & you, stepmom. You cant even show up for this boy YOU also discarded-?
    Shame.

  • @JeriLaird-i3t
    @JeriLaird-i3t 7 місяців тому +8

    It was such a tragedy. But even more now that I can put his sweet face to it.

  • @Kell-ic7yn
    @Kell-ic7yn 6 місяців тому +1

    I thank God he is not suffering anymore and is a beautiful angel now.

  • @jamiepender6667
    @jamiepender6667 4 місяці тому +2

    Paul seems like he’s never had social interactions with any normal people. It’s so weird. Especially since he had a job etc. but he acts completely unsocialized.

  • @briarrose5208
    @briarrose5208 6 місяців тому

    Thank you, Zav, for this beautiful memorial you’ve made for Timothy. And thank you for all your hard work to tell his story. If consciousness survives death, he knows that his life mattered to so many of us. He suffered so much that death can only have been a welcome release. His suffering is over. Rest in peace, Timothy. You are not forgotten.😢🙏❤️

  • @MH-ko6hb
    @MH-ko6hb 7 місяців тому +5

    Thank you for the beautiful tribute ❤❤❤

  • @carlstewart6480
    @carlstewart6480 6 місяців тому +2

    Never saw this body cam before. She’s even worse than I imagined. Consciousness of guilt is the act.

  • @IllHandleThis
    @IllHandleThis 7 місяців тому +7

    I’m just thankful Millie reached out to someone outside of her family about what Nolan was doing to her. I imagine Shanda and co knew about the abuse happening to Millie. I could be wrong, but Millie probably told her mom.

    • @rainbows9060
      @rainbows9060 7 місяців тому

      I thought Millie was a baby and too young to tell anyone about the abuse,unless I have missed something?

    • @patriciadellenbach9591
      @patriciadellenbach9591 7 місяців тому

      Was Millie sexually abused by Nolan?

    • @amp9359
      @amp9359 6 місяців тому

      ​@rainbows9060 they were 4 years apart, Nolan would be 5 -7 if she were in diapers, I'd think

    • @amp9359
      @amp9359 6 місяців тому

      This says M told someone at child church

  • @theresalennon9940
    @theresalennon9940 7 місяців тому +2

    Looking at all the pictures of Tim, looks like he was truly LOVED AND CARED for at one time. UNBELIEVABLE of how and what happened to Tim. RIHP TIMOTHY 🙏💕🙏💕🙏

  • @louettesommers8594
    @louettesommers8594 7 місяців тому +5

    What a precious little boy. 😢💔

  • @EaglesFly4031
    @EaglesFly4031 7 місяців тому +10

    Thank you Zav

  • @bornfree0507
    @bornfree0507 7 місяців тому +3

    What a beautiful tribute to Timothy!! Precious boy who only deserved the best that life could offer. Rest in peace sweetie.

  • @Alessonlearnedintime
    @Alessonlearnedintime 6 місяців тому +2

    Timothy will forever live in my heart. He was beautiful and deserved a happy life. He deserved love. I will not forget him.❤

  • @DianeWhite-yz5dh
    @DianeWhite-yz5dh 7 місяців тому +2

    Horrible that the last two people Timothy saw was his Evil Mother and Brother (Paul ) as he lay dying in an ice cube bathtub / Hot Sauce and Bread. Beautiful Tribute To Timothy

  • @nikkimaloney2759
    @nikkimaloney2759 7 місяців тому +3

    What a beautiful darling boy he was. I'm so heart broken.

  • @amberkarim9239
    @amberkarim9239 7 місяців тому +4

    I don't believe a word she says
    even if true plenty of people have lived thru abusive childhoods and wouldn't think of hurting a child.

  • @George_Tropicana
    @George_Tropicana Місяць тому +1

    Imagine if Shanda had actually been able to become an attorney. Attorney Shanda 😟

  • @gingerblair2932
    @gingerblair2932 7 місяців тому +5

    It was Paul's idea for hotsauce yet she says she had tried other hotsauces,but Timothy wasn't bothered&liked them. I don't believe it was Paul's idea&I also don't believe for a second that Timothy liked hotsauce. I don't believe Timothy even pretended to like it. It was pure torture.

  • @Roseann-g5d
    @Roseann-g5d 7 місяців тому +3

    Beautiful tribute to Timothy in the beginning. I cannot understand how anyone could hurt/kill/torture him. I hope she is haunted every day of her life and reminded what she has done. Great work following this case

  • @coyotequeen
    @coyotequeen 7 місяців тому +3

    That was lovely Zav, you really care about the cases , you put so much time into them, really touched my heart x