They cant really release the raw scores due to the fact that the two shifts varied greatly in difficulty and so they had to depend on percentile normalization to be able to provide fair ranks to the people with the tougher shift .. the percentiles of the two shifts had to be compared and the tougher shift with the lesser score of the topper had to be given the benefit of normalization as is logical and so at the same score the rank of two people from different shifts varies by quite a lot and so releasing the raw scores will create a huge outburst among the students .. and so percentile is the best indicator to go by to understand the student's standing among all the others.. and so the NBEMS can't really be forced to release the raw score. Period. And coming to the major issue of providing in-service candidates with their deserved incentive score .. I do feel that the states that require raw score for this purpose should have had opposed this two shift normalization method when it was announced after the postponement as this is not a new method and has been adopted from AIIMS so they had to object at that time itself instead of after the result was announced . I feel it was the states' negligence to look into this matter and consider taking an action prior to the examination by atleast inquiring from NBEMS whether they will be provided the raw score as it is very vital to providing incentive score to the in-service personnel. Since this AIIMS normalization method is totally dependent on the percentiles .. if they bothered to just look up the link given by NBEMS in the normalization notice they'd have found that only percentiles will be provided. Overall it boils down to the states don't-care behaviour towards doctors and related exams . And ofcourse the inability of NBEMS to conduct exams . In the times of COVID we doctors were showered with flowers and respect and we hoped the sentiment would continue but this is the sorry state and blaring truth in front of our eyes - We are only given importance in times of desperate need and everything is forgotten once everything is back to normal. The most shaking incidents of neglect of anything related to doctors being : 1. The Abhaya case and the response of the judicial system to it. 2. The NEET UG fiasco 3. The NEET PG ordeal
@@aafreenfatima590 holding back future of lakhs of doctors for the sake of 19 petitioners and few in service candidates is questionable? Moreover the rank card gives percentile and no of right and wrong answers the states should work out a method of ranking for in service candidates. Limited centres gives a better administrative control in prevention of malpractices. As far as I remember the PG exams the questions paper or key were never released why this new legal battle?
@subbaiahramaniyer999 the counselling has in no way been halted due to the 19 petitioners' SC case . It's due to a no. of issues like : 1. Seat matrix has not been finalised due to late notice to submit applications and so the inspections were going on till now. 2. The matter of in-service candidates' incentive score. These two issues especially the first one is so pivotal that the counselling can not move forward. Coming to the matter of using the incorrect and correct no. of qns and somehow working out a way to still give them the incentive score .. like I said .. the state that didn't even bother to check out the new two shift method and read up about the AIIMS normalization and how it won't be the same as every other exam till date and they won't be given marks this time , the same state has now woken up from it's slumber like it always does at the very last possible moment to object on it. Do you really think such a state is capable of trying to think of or actually putting forward a proposal to ease the lives of students after destroying it ? The state finds it much easy to counter the NBEMS and arrogantly reply to the communication by them , and I quote , " Don't teach us how to conduct our counselling " and so on and so forth , you get the idea. And the matter of the SC case is just a routine reaction after the result declaration , a very common phenomenon after every NEET PG ever conducted in the history of our country. Especially this time with major changes , it's even more so obvious that there would be multiple cases and the Indian judiciary as usual is making a mockery out of every Doctor related issue in the country . Still the pressure from everywhere will hopefully make them commence in in 11 November.. which is exactly 3 months after our exam ( 11 Aug) . During my internship in 2023 I remember the exam being in March and the new Pgs joining in the end of September brining the month count to around 6 to 7 months .
@@aafreenfatima590 you may be correct but when any matter goes to court it's not emotions which decide but the facts which each party has. The grounds of the petitioners is vague and not so relevant, the way the Advocates representing the petitioners are also not adept. Let's wait for better sense to prevail, I'm sure the counselling process will start in the 1st week of November 2024
@@vineethcg4083 total candidates 216000 Fees. 4200 Total Rs 90 crores Conducting exam all over India at so many centres all over India leaves average of 10lakhs, payment to centres for infra, invigilator, squad, exam officials at all centres, then back office works hardly leaves any sum for profits, so please don't spread such canard like politicians. This year they canceled and beheld at new centres double work all in the larger interest of candidates
Illogical statement of providing score card? Normalization, as I decipher, is percentile of 1.14 lakhs for session 1 and percentile for 1.14 lakhs of session 2 calculated to 7 digits then based on these percentiles the ranks have been arrived at. Now in session 1 a candidate might have got 150 questions right and 50 wrong and similarly a session 2 candidate might have done, but the rank is as per the percentile arrived at based on Sessions overall candidates thereby Normalizing Sessions score. Thirdly for service candidates the individual states can calculate the State ranks, make a rank list of service candidates then add marks to the correct answers less the negative marks for wrong answers and arrive at the ranking. Don't complicate issue further by such view raising videos
@@subbaiahramaniyer999 about service candidates It’s not like that bro. Nbe will add on after the state give the service ppls list. So is it fair. Not my question. It’s the question by service candidates
@@draks94 so you suggest holding of interest of lakhs of doctors for the sake of few 1000s? Let the State work out some formula for service candidates ranking
@@subbaiahramaniyer999as far as I have studied social science,India is a democratic country and not majoritarianism! You should probably educate yourselves in it ! Even if 1000 are affected,they are affected ! Would you speak the same if you were in those 1000?
Yes of course there is a foul play... if they postponed the exam why just they didnt wait for another 1month and conduted in single shift?? Then everything would have been smooth.., There wouldnt have been any discrepancies with marks ranks or normalisation., They are hiding something!!
They cant really release the raw scores due to the fact that the two shifts varied greatly in difficulty and so they had to depend on percentile normalization to be able to provide fair ranks to the people with the tougher shift .. the percentiles of the two shifts had to be compared and the tougher shift with the lesser score of the topper had to be given the benefit of normalization as is logical and so at the same score the rank of two people from different shifts varies by quite a lot and so releasing the raw scores will create a huge outburst among the students .. and so percentile is the best indicator to go by to understand the student's standing among all the others.. and so the NBEMS can't really be forced to release the raw score. Period.
And coming to the major issue of providing in-service candidates with their deserved incentive score .. I do feel that the states that require raw score for this purpose should have had opposed this two shift normalization method when it was announced after the postponement as this is not a new method and has been adopted from AIIMS so they had to object at that time itself instead of after the result was announced . I feel it was the states' negligence to look into this matter and consider taking an action prior to the examination by atleast inquiring from NBEMS whether they will be provided the raw score as it is very vital to providing incentive score to the in-service personnel. Since this AIIMS normalization method is totally dependent on the percentiles .. if they bothered to just look up the link given by NBEMS in the normalization notice they'd have found that only percentiles will be provided. Overall it boils down to the states don't-care behaviour towards doctors and related exams .
And ofcourse the inability of NBEMS to conduct exams .
In the times of COVID we doctors were showered with flowers and respect and we hoped the sentiment would continue but this is the sorry state and blaring truth in front of our eyes - We are only given importance in times of desperate need and everything is forgotten once everything is back to normal.
The most shaking incidents of neglect of anything related to doctors being :
1. The Abhaya case and the response of the judicial system to it.
2. The NEET UG fiasco
3. The NEET PG ordeal
Well said it ✍🏻👍
@@aafreenfatima590 holding back future of lakhs of doctors for the sake of 19 petitioners and few in service candidates is questionable? Moreover the rank card gives percentile and no of right and wrong answers the states should work out a method of ranking for in service candidates. Limited centres gives a better administrative control in prevention of malpractices. As far as I remember the PG exams the questions paper or key were never released why this new legal battle?
@subbaiahramaniyer999 the counselling has in no way been halted due to the 19 petitioners' SC case . It's due to a no. of issues like :
1. Seat matrix has not been finalised due to late notice to submit applications and so the inspections were going on till now.
2. The matter of in-service candidates' incentive score.
These two issues especially the first one is so pivotal that the counselling can not move forward.
Coming to the matter of using the incorrect and correct no. of qns and somehow working out a way to still give them the incentive score .. like I said .. the state that didn't even bother to check out the new two shift method and read up about the AIIMS normalization and how it won't be the same as every other exam till date and they won't be given marks this time , the same state has now woken up from it's slumber like it always does at the very last possible moment to object on it. Do you really think such a state is capable of trying to think of or actually putting forward a proposal to ease the lives of students after destroying it ? The state finds it much easy to counter the NBEMS and arrogantly reply to the communication by them , and I quote , " Don't teach us how to conduct our counselling " and so on and so forth , you get the idea.
And the matter of the SC case is just a routine reaction after the result declaration , a very common phenomenon after every NEET PG ever conducted in the history of our country. Especially this time with major changes , it's even more so obvious that there would be multiple cases and the Indian judiciary as usual is making a mockery out of every Doctor related issue in the country .
Still the pressure from everywhere will hopefully make them commence in in 11 November.. which is exactly 3 months after our exam ( 11 Aug) .
During my internship in 2023 I remember the exam being in March and the new Pgs joining in the end of September brining the month count to around 6 to 7 months .
@@aafreenfatima590 you may be correct but when any matter goes to court it's not emotions which decide but the facts which each party has. The grounds of the petitioners is vague and not so relevant, the way the Advocates representing the petitioners are also not adept. Let's wait for better sense to prevail, I'm sure the counselling process will start in the 1st week of November 2024
This is not a blunder beta… this is preplanned
Yep 👍
Sir, can you make a video on AFIH doctors average salary and growth prospects 5-10yrs down the line..
Yep. Definitely 👍
@@draks94 thank you, appreciated ❤️
Please don't mention to combine inicet with neet 😅😅😅 atleast one exam is getting conducted smoothly on time why you want to ruin the last hope
😂
Neet pg 2024 counselling with neet pg 2025 exam
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@@azamKhan-cd8zv good we'll have 130000 for around 216000 applied 2024 plus 55000 new 2018 mbbs batch?
Dr, how toxic is dnb in tier 2 private hospitals
Depends on hospital 😂
Making just mere videos in youtube ...do you think this will change??!
Doctors should protest ...
Definitely.its time to protest . But see what happens in RG kar. So what to do with it ?
When exams become business of making crores such things are bound to happen
indeed👍
@@vineethcg4083 total candidates 216000
Fees. 4200
Total Rs 90 crores
Conducting exam all over India at so many centres all over India leaves average of 10lakhs, payment to centres for infra, invigilator, squad, exam officials at all centres, then back office works hardly leaves any sum for profits, so please don't spread such canard like politicians. This year they canceled and beheld at new centres double work all in the larger interest of candidates
I think they didn't normalized the score.they did it with the percentile
Nobody knows. It’s gonna be the next issue ✍🏻
Illogical statement of providing score card? Normalization, as I decipher, is percentile of 1.14 lakhs for session 1 and percentile for 1.14 lakhs of session 2 calculated to 7 digits then based on these percentiles the ranks have been arrived at.
Now in session 1 a candidate might have got 150 questions right and 50 wrong and similarly a session 2 candidate might have done, but the rank is as per the percentile arrived at based on Sessions overall candidates thereby Normalizing Sessions score.
Thirdly for service candidates the individual states can calculate the State ranks, make a rank list of service candidates then add marks to the correct answers less the negative marks for wrong answers and arrive at the ranking.
Don't complicate issue further by such view raising videos
@@subbaiahramaniyer999 about service candidates It’s not like that bro. Nbe will add on after the state give the service ppls list. So is it fair. Not my question. It’s the question by service candidates
@@draks94 so you suggest holding of interest of lakhs of doctors for the sake of few 1000s? Let the State work out some formula for service candidates ranking
@@subbaiahramaniyer999as far as I have studied social science,India is a democratic country and not majoritarianism!
You should probably educate yourselves in it !
Even if 1000 are affected,they are affected !
Would you speak the same if you were in those 1000?
Is there zero percentile this year also
Most probably yes . But can’t sure 👍
Cqmu ❤ 2012 🤝
Who is this ?
Why can't they release? Do you suspect foul play?
Nobody knows. Hope u know what happened in neet ug. So it’s normal
Yes of course there is a foul play... if they postponed the exam why just they didnt wait for another 1month and conduted in single shift??
Then everything would have been smooth..,
There wouldnt have been any discrepancies with marks ranks or normalisation.,
They are hiding something!!
Do you know current PG stipend details of tamilnadu for 1st , 2nd and 3rd Yr?
48 ,49 ,50 k around in govt
ESIC it’s more
Private - very hard to get stipend
Sir many are saying tentative exam date is in March....is it true?
High chances april - may
Yep. But it’s not fair. Should give minimum time for prep na 🫸🏼🫷🏼
@@draks94 Yes sir For Midrankers it's a tough phase to be......
@@Holistichealth-h yep 👍
There is Neet SS exam on March. How can they conduct NEETPG on same month?