The Problem with Cancel Culture | Ayishat Akanbi
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- “We undermine how easy it is for us to become the people that we dislike”
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not complex at all. its business and jealousy coming together to not lose money
@@aarondavid5866 Agree to a certain extent. It is mostly women cancelling men(of all races) and now that a few women are being cancelled, now you see this big concern with cancel culture
@@citycrusher9308 its only a concern now because women ar3 being cancelled?
@@aarondavid5866 yep. If cancel culture continued to only have male victims, you would only hear about it on ''nerd'' channels. Once there are enough female victims, that's when concern over CC becomes mainstream
@@citycrusher9308 the only female i can think of is roseanne. no females seemed to care about her
‘It’s easier to condemn people, than ideas.’ ....I like this woman.
Will Wilberforce I just liked the saying and the context it was used in, plus she’s very articulate and doesn’t need to shout and holler in order to ‘express herself’
It is a great line and a great observation. One of the things that make the fight against religious bigotry such as the sexism, racism and homophobia in the bible and the koran so difficult nowadays is that when you attack the muslim or christian ideas, you are seen as attacking the muslim or christian people. As a gay white man, I cannot attack the homophobia in the koran without being accused of racism. But as a man of Lebanese descent I cannot attack the homophobia in the bible without being accused of racism either. I'm either too European to criticise an Eastern religion or too Arabic too criticise a Western one.
@Will Wilberforce She's right though. Evil and evil people who are not well intentioned is a reality, but should we immediately assume bad faith and the worse of our fellow men who may not share our opinions, then we're screwed.
Andrew Yang, and Tulsi Gabbard are considered Alt-Right Nazis by some people of the left merely for the fact that they've agreed to be interviewed on conservative shows. Joe Rogan is also considered an Alt-Right Nazi merely for interviewing so-called racists and sexists and giving them a platform. Now that these people are considered Nazis, it's kosher to punch them because punching a Nazi is socially acceptable. If you don't punch, boycott, cancel, or call out such Nazis, you are complicit in being a Nazi yourself and must be punched and whoever doesn't punch or call you out are also Nazis who must be punched!
@Will Wilberforce How dare you make fun of social justice warriors you Alt-Right Nazi! I shall unleash the SJW gestapo to doxx and punch you!
"If we stopped treating talent synonymous with character we would be a lot less disappointed." Damn. Wow. Yes!
Yes. I've been saying this for over 10 years now. We need to separate artist's talents from their personalities. Being good at something doesn't make you a good person.
That was a strong statement
Yeah look up "halo effect." No reason to think a great inventor is kind to animals
If you have good character, you are talented
While this tendency can be diminished it cannot be eliminated human psychology being as enduring as it is. That is why fame and talent are able to extract the premiums they do. The claim of the speaker of her personal immunity is a personal belief rather evidence. Sharing how she has structured her environment to reduce the assaults of the mass media stimuli would be more instructive.
The sheer ingenuity, intelligence and vicious insight in this woman.
And she's at the peak of indentity politics; a black woman (which is good, so all she says can't be turned down just because the speaker is a "white man")!
HenriK Hald That seems such a shallow an irrelevant thing to say. I’m sorry, but that’s how it comes across.
HenriK Hald This is an intellectual discussion leave your shallow ideologies at the door.🚪 This is part of why most not all, humans can’t progress they see things only at face value. Socrates was known to be very ugly but we admire him for his mind and not his looks. Although I know all you did was critique her hairstyle which isn’t earth shattering. Realize no one owes you to be easy on the eyes. Btw no one’s trying to be condescending just slightly critiquing what you said.
HenriK Hald I don’t feel smart at all simply just saying my take on it. Just like you said your take on her hair.
HenriK Hald I’m not a feminist at all also I’m referring to the dialouge before you came into the comments. And I’m not a teenager like why are you making all these assumptions. You can critique what someone’s saying without giving them a profile. Also everything wasn’t to disrespect you or throw fake personal jabs. Plz stay on topic don’t venture into other things that aren’t true.
when friedrich nietzsche said “whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster” i felt that
This is it with millennials though. They abandon all their progressive values and apparent openness and compassion when it comes to their opponents
@@bob_bobsen This has nothing to do with millenials. You find find some hypocrisy in every generation but like she said in the video, it is less hypocrisy but more the fact that we are all humans and that's simply how we behave if we don't pay attention to it. All we can do is to become aware of it in order to keep our destructive tendencies in check as much as possible.
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."-Harvey dent
Dejan Mac “this is it with millennials though” by millenialls, I am assuming you are referring to idealogs. Often more largely represented in the younger generations. I am a part of this generation, however I do not subscribe to everything this neo Marxist, post modernistic ideology, of which this discussion is about, proclaims, however In you referring to this ideology by the term millennials, i would argue that you actually in turn support it, as you are attributing everything to a group of people separate from you. This is part of the problem the women in the video is addressing.
As soon as society judges the individual first and foremost, instead of lumping everyone into different categories of beliefs and levels of oppression, then judging everyone based on the merits of the category they fit in to (ie, identity politics)
We will begin to fight a lot less and become much more forgiving of each other, as we will begin to focus on what we share in common with each other, instead of what separates us.
This is largely the point this video is trying to make I think.
I hope I’ve made my point clear enough. Please criticise me freely and poke holes in my thinking
@@laaaliiiluuu I'll stop being lazy then. I think the majority of people aren't educated enough to have nuance in their points of view, and don't love themselves to the degree that they source an identity from outside, from viewpoints. People tie so much of themselves into these ideas that they can't imagine things any other way; to hold other beliefs is to be of a different substance, to be a different person entirely. So to hold an opposing view, because "I", the person in question, must be right because my identity is based on it, is to be someone who must be bad in some way shape or form. The majority of political discussion regarding opposing PoVs involves sneering at people's morals, hypocrisy, intelligence etc. It is culturally tinged. Vide- anti-Trump content tends to portray Trump and his supporters as raving idiots and morally corrupt devils, because OUR identity holds the opposing views. Anti-Progressive content involves sneering at people's 'feelings' and how soft people are, anti-Left sneers at utopian beliefs and a lack of understanding of reality and the economy. So sure, it's not millennials.
" *We undermine how easy it is for us to become the people that we dislike* "
This is absolutely critical, and in some sense, the entire issue in a nutshell.
All these people who commit to cancel culture are the same people who think they are the heroes of their own story and believe they have never done anything wrong in the past.
I answer to the law itself, not to the emotional teenagers who believe they are doing justice.
@@kfcfingerlicker9292 A big part of the responsability in it is held by the corporations that bow to it, for exemple when they fire workers, authors and journalists in response to a bunch of angry tweets. What message are they sending to young people?
@@backintimealwyn5736 That most corporations don't give a shit about human lives and only care about profit? Nothing new there, lol.
@@kfcfingerlicker9292 and also that you can throw a tantrum and have people's life ruined. I bet it tastes good to them to see the youth DEMANDING brands and companies to fire workers in the name of the left. It must really be hilarious.
Backintime Alwyn this constant attack on the left/“liberals” by what we’re told are the “right” is very strange, since apart from the economic sense, most of society in the U.K. is left/“liberal”, but is now finding to its detriment that the views it holds aren’t very liberating.
I enjoyed her clip, but I would make a disclaimer. Whereby a view is dangerous in the momentum it could gain, we would be wise not to give the views or the individuals carrying the views a platform. A perfect example is Boris Johnson. Our society glorifies evil. If this man was cancelled, would society have been at a loss? This man is a sociopath, openly racist, a neoliberal capitalist who has absolutely no-one’s interests apart from his own. Yet our society, our media, tabloid and press has put him on a pedestal.
Cancel culture should not exist in our neighbourhoods, communities unless there’s been an egregious breach of the social contract. But it’s highly questionable whether a contract even exists, such is the extent of how left our society is. Conservatism doesn’t even exist no more!
"Sometimes popularity is just a measure of how much people are not thinking"
Duh.
Yeah, that line stood out to me, too.
Can you explain this to me? I’m quite hangover and fairly stupid.
@@nielsnielsen9013 Some people adopt the most popular opinion or ideas because they don't have their own.
@@hurricaneb6243 i gues thats the best explanation for it... but wouldn't it need a "for themselves" at the end, for it to make sense?
Im far from well read, but to me as a stand alone comment, or even in its given context; it made no fuckin sense at all.
"We undermine how easy it is for us to become the people that we dislike"
Wow she's brilliant
The internet is one giant glass house, and everyone on it is armed with endless stones.
And the last man standing is.... No one....
Death and condemnation: 1.
Humanity: 0.
Divide and rule, guys, divide and rule.
United, we stand. Divided, we fall.
If we want to change that. We all have to do better, on here and IRL. Cancel culture was originally a way for the masses to call out people with histories of doing repeatedly terrible things. We need to remember that, and cut ourselves and others slack for saying shitty things. But NOT let those who actually need to be deplatformed get away with it. And maybe look at the systems that turned a justified fight into witch hunting nonsense.
Amen!
Very well...damned well said. True.
@toilet paper Yeah, how did you know?
"No bad idea is overcome by attacking the persons who believe it."
That's a good quote to think on.
Cindy lou Betris what do you mean? Do you clarify and elaborate?
This is the crux of it for me. Even if you think it's right, even if it feels good, attacking people just NEVER changes their minds. Ever. At best it cowes them into silence and fear. The people who've changed my mind were the ones willing to sit down and talk respectfully about our disagreements.
@Cindy lou Betristhe problem about racism are racist ideologies and the people who believe in those ideologies. If you're fighting against racist people you automatically fight against racism.
But if you want to attack a bad idea such as a racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-scientific religion (take hinduism, christianity or islam) you will always be accused of attacking the people.
The other big issue with cancel culture is that it doesn't really tackle the issues it is against. Silencing people with views/opinions/ideas you don't like doesn't challenge or make those go away. It just builds resentment and increases the distance between people. Talking and listening to people brings us together.
Sometimes people have to literally fight against others with "bad" views and opinions, because those attitudes are causing actual harm and danger in society. History is full of these struggles, because just talking things out doesn't generally result in everyone going "oh! turns out racism is bad and I was wrong all along, let's fix the damage I've caused" etc
Ayishat's talking about giving people chances to change and become better - that's not the same as allowing people with harmful attitudes to promote those ideas in the public sphere. That has actual consequences, usually for minorities, which is why it has to be resisted, like how many positive changes in society came about.
It's the whole paradox of intolerance thing - if you want a tolerant society, you have to be prepared to be intolerant of those who want to make society as a whole intolerant. We can't rely on the nice idea that everyone airs their views and it all resolves itself nicely unfortunately
@@cactustactics "Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech."
Noam Chomsky
Yes some views are abhorrent, there is no disputing that. However we have to challenge these views. Failure to engage with someone we disagree with is abandoning them to a doctrine of hate. When we start seeing people's views before we see a person we fail people.
@@tiredgardener you fail people if you allow someone to promote harmful attitudes that have real impacts on others' lives. It just depends on where your priorities lie - do you give a person a platform no matter what the consequences to others, out of a rigid adherence to a basic principle, or do you weigh up the good and the bad and try to make society better while avoiding harm to others?
Since you brought up Goebbels, how about Germany's post-war censorship of nazi symbols and nazism in general? On the one hand, it's an attempt to avoid a poisonous ideology from taking root again, putting the life and liberty and dignity of minorities at risk. On the other hand, nazis are denied the freedom to promote nazi shit. Are you really saying you have a problem with that? You don't think, on balance, that's the "right" thing to do, or at least "better"?
@@cactustactics doing harm to others and freedom of speech are not the same thing. One is action, the other is verbal. If someone is set on doing harm to others, policing their speech is not going to stop them from doing harm. Freedom of speech does have consequences, the first is to be challenged.
I didn't bring Goebbels into this, I was quoting Noam Chomsky, who referrenced Goebbels as a way to highlight the importance of freedom of speech and what it means. If for example we lived in Poland, any speech that is in favour of LGBT rights would be censored, if we lived in 1950's USA any speech that promotes racial equality would be deemed to be wrong.
Standards, views, and what society deems acceptable change. If we only allow speech that is deemed as acceptable to be aired, we can not change things that need to be changed. Even if some views are wrong, I'd rather hear them so I can challenge them, and also test them against my opinions.
@@tiredgardener "any speech that promotes racial equality would be deemed to be wrong" is an extremely mild way of saying that black people were literally murdered for ever trying to assert their rights, or just because racists felt like it. The Civil Rights Act didn't come about because everyone sat around discussing the issues and worked out that oops, that was bad. The '68 act was rolled out in response to the riots after MLK was murdered, not because of frank discussions about whether black people do in fact deserve the same rights as other humans or not
These are the things people have had to fight against, and still do. This is the harm these widespread attitudes do, how they become systemic and passed on throughout society, from generation to generation. You're being extremely glib when you say that being able to freely and openly promote these attitudes does no harm - it absolutely demonstrably does, and the consequences are felt by others (being "challenged" does not even remotely compare)
Freedom of speech is important, but it's not an absolute (and never has been in any society - there's always limits on what you can say). The problem with reductive liberalism is it just cares about principles, leftists care about outcomes. What good is "free speech" (some get to speak more freely and loudly than others) when it's used to marginalise and oppress vulnerable people, and ultimately deprive them of THEIR rights? That's why fighting oppression and prejudice is important, and often at odds with noble-sounding principles that are used to enable that harm. That's just ~empirically~ how things work
Here’s a wise person who realizes the darkness that’s in each of us.
Bible clearly tells us the heart is deceitful. We can easily become what we hate if we are not extremely careful in monitoring the issues of Life that comes from it.
cough the Dhammapada, cough cough Carl Jung's examination of the shadow cough cough.
Cough most of major religion cough
“Sometimes popularity is a measure of how much people are not thinking”
That hit me
Lots of great one-liners in this short clip.
Right like finally someone put it into words
Explains Cardi B, and Hitler one and the same, one and the same.
Especially apt when it comes to religious beliefs.
This is extremely thoughtful and very well said. Very impressive.
it's like they're me but eloquent
Yes absolutely!!!
I completely agree. Intelligent, thoughtful, honest, and introspective. Couldn't do better myself.
IT IS the Most Basic unspecific babbling there is?!
Especially refreshing hearing it from a black woman...
“Sometimes popularity is a measure of how much people aren’t thinking.”
thanks i am deaf and couldn't hear the video
Literally the case at my school.
All the idiots grouped together and made so much noise, laughed and was an annoyance to each other and everyone else around them.
Even the most pathetic excuses to laugh and giggle set them off line hyenas, like that time one guy spent a month with his hair tied up into two balls resembling Mickey Mouses ears.
It was the happiest day of my life leaving that school forever when COVID-19 led all the schools to close back in March.
That must be why being a monk is so popular. They practice not thinking
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That was my fave quote too.
She's right when she said how quickly people can change their ideas
There are things i used to believe 1 month ago that i don't believe in anymore and vice versa
No you're wrong.
Wait. Maybe you're right
@@taurtue I'm on the fence. I think I'll sleep on it
@mf Honey because when people realize they've changed, they won't have to demand an apology from a month ago when it's irrelevant to how the person is now
@mf Honey nah I'm not taking this joke
But what if someone wants you to aplogize for something more subtle and nuanced you said? What if they just took it in a different way and didnt unterstand it. Or they just come from a different moral standpoint. Who determines the person who ought to apologize in this case? Do I have to apologize just because someone deems my behavior "racist" for example even though I believe it to be not so?
Just because someone says you are "etc", does it mean you really are and should apologize? Can their view not be as flawed as the view of someone saying something homophobic? Just because they believe to come from a good point, not an evil one, are they automatically right about everything they perceive?
Exactly! We say “mental health is so important”, then we wreck peoples’ mental health by “cancelling” their existence and voice.
I'm not the same person that I was 5 years ago never mind 10 or 20 years ago. I said some shitty things when I was a teenager, mostly for stupid shock value, but I can't imagine being held accountable for them now. The internet likes to see things in black and white. You're either good or you're bad - there's no in between at all, and changing your mind (even in light of new facts) is seen as a weakness.
The quickest way to self-validation is to be judgemental. That's why shitty tabloid rags are so popular becasue they allow the insecure masses to feel superior for a small moment during the day. Point scoring, witch hunts, plus vilification and punishment of people that they have never even met. It sucks!
I’m so glad Facebook, Instagram, snap chat, UA-cam etc. wasn’t a thing when I was in jr high/ high school. I was a horrendous teen up until I was about 23. I said, and did terrible things for attention. I just didn’t know any better. I can’t imagine my past haunting me because it was caught on camera how mortifying for the youth today !
Arianna Gonzalez I’m going to be a junior in high school this fall and I wish I didn’t have to grow up with all of this. Teenagers already have enough problems like school, hobbies, extracurriculars, preparing for college, trying to figure out who we are, etc. With social media on top of that, I feel like it just stunts people’s growth. As teens, we are suppose to be maturing yet cancel culture prevents maturity by holding people’s feet to the fire because of something that they said years ago. If you want people to change, you have to give them the room and the ability to do so. Shoving someone’s past mistakes into their faces just makes them feel even more guilty. That stunts growth. And then people wonder why gen Z is called the “doomer generation.” Social media is just toxic in general, which is why I rarely engage in it. Isn’t gen Z suppose to be a better generation than the previous ones? How is my generation gonna be any different if we do not forgive people?
@@LM-ix7pk Don't fall into the cancel culture trap, and if anyone you know supports cancel culture or cancels anyone, tell them that we are all humans. That way the world would be a better place, and you would make a better generation. (I am millennial; we are not much better about cancel culture either) All the best to you in your life, school, and whatever you do!
Acceptable language can change so quickly too. I remember the swear words at secondary school people would never say now which is great. Even in social care we are no longer supposed to say drug addicts but people with substance misuse
Yes, everything is black and white, so like computers which are just a series of one's and zero's determining binary outcomes we have lost nuance and that's where being human resides...
"no-one has a monopoly on toxic ideas"
This is a smart lady.
"If we stop treating talent like it's synonymous with character, I think we will be a lot less disappointed in entertainers and some of our favourite people."
Not the point, but....can we acknowledge how GORGEOUS SHE IS??? And her skin is flawless!
She's SOOOO pretty!
Wonderful speaking voice too.
She can teach me subjects all day long. I love her accent but also the quality of her voice.
"We undermine how easy it is for us to become the people that we dislike."
"Maybe the first sign of knowing anything is knowing you know nothing at all."
I love this woman. I love her. Finally. People like this seem rare atm and that's scary.
agreed.
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
-Socrates
Shes not rare. It's just that those people with the same views are silenced, particularly if you're not a, to use the hateful phrase, 'Person Of Colour'.
People "like this" seem rare because you're only allowed to say those things if you're both black AND a woman AND fit peoples stereotypes of what a black person should look like ... unfortunately.
Today it’s I’m so offended I’m so hurt apologize !! Kids are growing up way too shelter and wimpy
Sad
Finally, someone I’m on the same page with. We are only human
Yes we are. ua-cam.com/video/RL-uatlGekQ/v-deo.html
agreed I think all reasonable ppl would too
Jesus Christ... this is probably the most needed content on the internet right now. Thank you so much for making this.
I cried from relief hearing this. I don't think people understand the cage they put themselves in when they begin to cage other people.
Such wonderfully balanced and empowering views she has- will definitely be listening to more of her.
I can already see it in a future history book..."In the early 2000s citizens were canceling one another and eventually everyone was canceled, even the AI bots."
If we're going audit everything everyone has ever said, ever. We're all going to be guilty of something.
Using Malcolm X is a good example. If he was “canceled” when he was younger, still committing crimes, there would be no Malcolm X.
Doesn't persecution from the government and eventually being assassinated count as being cancelled?
@@davidjones272 To an extent, sure. I never said that he was NOT canceled. I was just saying that IF he was canceled when he was out robbing and committing crimes, there would possibly be no Malcolm X.
@@lolOloveOlol21 you're taking the piss right? Malcolm X lived during segregation. He was denied platforms, respect and even legal equality on a daily basis. He was "cancelled" constantly, in a way far more fundamental than anybody in the US or UK today.
If cancel culture existed in the 60s
Malcom Little would NEVER have become Malcom X
@Alex Meggoe Then go back and read what he's been convicted of, what he's been accused of covering up with the Nation of Islam, and all the "Hate Speech" from his mouth. Because I'm calling bullshit on your comment.
She sums things up brilliantly... glad to see that some people still defend critical thinking !
Thank you for saying this. I guess my only caveat would be, if someone is consistently unaccountable, and has the privilege and opportunities to do better but refuses to do so. I'm not going to waste my energy dragging them, but I'm not going to hold their hand and spoon feed them knowledge either when that energy could be better spent helping people who are acting in good faith (as well as educating myself ofc)
Would definitely like to explore further how cancel culture affects POC, working class people, neurodivergent people and other marginalised groups disproportionately
this is literally the same recycled phrase from every woke person whenever they are basically trying to say "no I can't forgive them no matter what they do because I intrinsically hate them and would rather see them go down to satisfy my inner score for what they have done to us in the past BUT I won't, of course, say all this out loud but I will disguise this in "THEIR APOLOGY IS NOT SINCERE BECAUSE THEY DIDNT BLINK ENOUGH therefore THROUGH HIM TO THE PERMANENT HATE PIT" - please you know very deep down below exactly what I mean and so does everybody else and I am a person of color and had that same feeling before until I actually listened to the other side for once uninterrupted and everything changed. Just like WOKE people which I am but in the original sense wants to hold people accountable to their action and understand how they can make mistakes I should also with the same token understand that woke people themselves can sometimes make even worse mistakes but because their identity has almost been always so deeply indulged in WOKE-ness and always doing the superior social just thing it is VERY VERY VERY HARD to ACCEPT yourself when you do a WRONG -
@@TheWSYNkatevy153 I agree with you Maiva - Its people like Rowan who are a perfect example of the root problem of cancel culture - they disguise themselves as woke and wear tshirts of love/unity/humanity then the second someone disagree with them they turn into the most evil torturing mob ever and send death threats and try to destroy your life - and then when the person apologizes they will all recycle the SAME SET OF excuses we have all heard before "Oh she is not sincere, oh this apology is not good enough, oh she only sorry coz she got caught, oh we shouldnt forgive her" - next thing you know their true colors really come out and u see them for whom they rele are - they just rele rele hate other colors and disguise this hatred under a cuter act named "WOKENESS" - pReeeaachhhh
Ok I just saw these replies and think I may have come across differently than intended! I've made plenty of mistakes myself, and been "cancelled" to some extent and I can understand why. I believe in transformative justice, but there has to be meaningful engagement and accountability from both sides, that's literally all I was saying. That doesn't mean never messing up or even knowing how to do accountability perfectly. Just listening to people's feedback and working on ourselves as best we can.
You still are assuming you occupy the role of teacher and not student.
I came here from Aba & Preach.
Finally! Someone rational. There are a scary number of people who support cancel culture and call it “accountability.” Accountability is not bullying people, and people can change and learn from their mistakes. Great video 👏
This whole cancel culture is very hypocritical
Yup there’s always a left wing agenda
It only targets conservatives
@Rodzilla The fact that your justification of it is that it's "market activity" should show everyone that it's likely detrimental for humanity.
Yes, a free market... The problem is that you SJWs think you’re winning your fight, but you’re losing instead. Look at the Goya beans case. The sales went through the roof, after you had announced the boycott, because the majority hates you. Not your ideals, but your arrogance, haughtiness, self-righteousness and puritanism. That’s why you’re gonna lose the elections in November. Cancel culture in realpolitik is a bad move.
@@MassimoAngotzi Are you illiterate? We're all arguing against cancel culture. Fucking right-wing morons everywhere, no wonder the world is going to shit.
@@MassimoAngotzi who lost the election? Let's revisit that comment
She's beautiful and independently minded.
People have this very idealistic interpretation of how humans ought to be, and if you fail to reach these standards, you are perpetually labelled a "terrible human being" who doesn't deserve a platform to express yourself. I think it stems from people realising that unless they have a zero-tolerance policy on particular human behaviour, change will never occur. The problem with that is that its easy to pass judgement on individuals online and spread hate without looking at the context.
Sounds like Catholic mentality back in the day to me. “Unless they have a zero-tolerance policy...change will never occur.” Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s what everyone is so mad at the Catholics for nowadays. Hypocritical to adopt the same mindset for the supposed “good” of humanity. Don’t ya think?
Sad but true people these days lack true empathy and compassion
Amazingly detailed and I love your standpoints on this. As a teenager growing up in this society, I am so worried and afraid that one day, society will “cancel” me due to the mistakes I’ve made in the past. I’m a teenager which is not a excuse but I am still in the process of learning aspects of life and forming my opinion, and how to say it. I’m just so afraid that one day people will take things I say in the wrong way and will “cancel me.” Growing up in this generation is often times a honor but also a risk.
We're all learning, even well into our late adult years. Seek the Truth, practice articulating what you understand, be humble, and be patient with this who are still learning, too.
Jerry D. White thank you so much for your advice, greatly appreciated
She's said everything I've always thought about cancel culture but expressed it so well.
I think 'cancel culture' is a very soft term for 'progressive mobbing' or whatever would be the correct term for what it actually is.
IRL Thought Police
Cancel culture is not specific to the left
@@tobithetabby6376 I was going to say the same thing. The right is famous for bombarding people for their ideas as well.
@Vlad Sandu: obviously you didn't listen or heard anything she said... sad
many true progressives who admire Noam Chomsky are adamantly against cancel culture and blocking free speech,
Ayishat Akanbi you give me hope for our species.
“It’s a pleasure to be wrong because when you are wrong you are closer to being right.” Well said. Thanks
What an intelligent woman! What a nuanced attitude! What a pity reasonable folks like her are so rare.
@mY wIfE tOok tHe kIdS I probably didn't get your entire message. I only got "But she's black..."
@mY wIfE tOok tHe kIdS
And?
They're not as rare as you might think. I've been on the left of the political spectrum most of my life. I'm also open to critique, as well as fruitful and meaningful debate with substance. The new left is unrecognizable. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect the left to mimic the conservative Evangelical Christians of the 80's and 90's by transforming into intolerant authoritarians that are pro-censorship and pro-war.
Bizarro world! Crazy times!
@@loadedmusic3192 I feel you mate. Same here. Cancel culture, victimehood, retraumatisation, trigger warnings and the list goes on. I am gay and I know even here we are not a 100 % equal yet, we are on track though. However there are young white women, who get upset because I'm not gay enough and i don't feel oppressed. How is that their business?
@@albertlevert5725
Most of my gay friends are not part of the pitchfork wielding mob....yet. We are being divided along racial, sexual, and gender lines. And a good chunk of the population are lapping it all up unfortunately!
Sh 1 t is starting to hit the fan in a major way, yet so many are blindly drinking the kool-aide. We're living within an incredibly toxic political/societal landscape.
I genuinely fear for our collective future!
She has said some of my absolute favorite things Ive ever heard on youtube.
The problem with cancel culture is how absolutely authoritarian it is.
It doesn't matter what the offending action was. It could be something truly horrendous like assault, or something like a poorly thought out comment or joke - the cancel brigade goes ALL IN and absolutely rips into and shreds the person who dared offend them on any given day. There doesn't seem to be any balance to the reactions by these people.
"Cancel culture is complex"
Literally the people who do cancel culture: "must ruin dude's life because he said something that I don't like some long time ago"
Agreed. They individually are very simple people. But it's origins, and the ramifications, are complex
The person above me put it well. If we look at the origins of the word “cancel” in the pop culture context, it was the few ways people with limited power could express their discontent with a more powerful person’s ideals. It was never about destroying or uprooting someone’s life- more often than not, the cancellation had zero impact on the career of the person in question. Nor was it even a declaration with that much finality- years ago, people were “cancelled” and then brought back. It was purely a creative way of saying “I’m disengaging from this person who’s hurt me and doesn’t care”.
So cancel culture IS complex. Sadly, like everything else these days, once it gained traction in pop culture, it was manhandled and manipulated into something much more sinister with much less meaning.
I was shamed on twitter because i called a Streamer 'Miss Depression' in game and was told I disrespected 'mental health', she used twitter to try and get everyone to unfollow my channel and shame me. Over the 5 years i did free art for small channels, made videos, even streamed, but was shut down on one name by her possie, abusing her powers on Twitch. Twitter to ruin my channel, or any future I had. I had previous dealings with her jealousy over the years, even got messages over other people killing her in game (which was what the reference was too in game , the crying in messages ... and she knew that) and others were whispered by a group of partners.
I was in hospital, receiving Chemo and suffered a lot of neurological problems myself and have two SEN children. Think she feared I would have attention, being ill, but
I had no idea, that a gamer/partnered streamer who I have never followed or watched would claim that I knew her 'mental history' or background and use it against me ...but it happened... too easy to ruin someones life using media ..
im sorry you went through that...people are insane
JustJ WhoIsAsking lesbians don’t go to orgies
People who say they have “depression” are extremely Proud and jealous of it. They revel in it and use it as a banner. It defines them.
@JustJ WhoIsAsking pride only happens once a year so I'm confused about multiple pride shirts been worn.
Patrick3183 That may be true of some, but there are many people who genuinely suffer from depression, which is a legitimate mental health problem that severely affects the quality of one’s life. While I agree that having depression is not an excuse to be an asshole, let’s not forget that there are many people who genuinely suffer from depression. Thankfully, it’s treatable.
This lady will go far in life.
"if we stop treating talent like it's synonymous with character then we would get less disappointed" Whoaaa!
"If we stop treating talent like it's synonymous with character", that is such a brilliant insight into the causes of some the world's problems.
This needs 50+ million more views.
This is the smartest explanation of cancel culture I’ve ever seen. Bravo!
This woman makes me proud to be an English woman. Would love to meet her.
Anyone else get sent here from Aba & Preach?
Yup. I want to think like this, so much wisdom and a good analysis of different things aba and preach, and this lady have
Not mistaking talent for character is just the simplest idea but so contrary to our celebrity worship. This was beautifully said
What an eloquent, measured and understanding message. This is exactly what the world needs right now. You are an inspiration to us all.
This is so beautiful and human.
5 minutes of pure bars stemming from groundedness, empathy and rational common sense. Thank you 🙏🏻
It's rubbish. The only thing you can do about the past is to understand it and try to be better. That shouldn't be too difficult. By the standards of today, all of our ancestors were lunatics. And guess what our descendants will be saying about us? Exactly the same thing.
Aba and Preach’s reaction to your video brought me here. I love this take!!! Thank you.
This is a person with logic and common sense
Love this so much
4:35 - "If you are someone who is seeking a deeper understanding, you welcome to be wrong. It is a pleasure to be wrong. Because when you are wrong, you are closer to being right. The first sign of knowing anything is knowing you know nothing at all." - Ayishat Akanbi
Powerful! She is wise beyond her years.
Old saying “ don’t throw rocks when you live in a glass house.” And another “ judge not, lest you be judged .”
keep getting back to this one. for me it's one of the best clips on youtube from 2020.
I'm very impressed. Not only do I agree with everything she says... the way she talks about it is spot on and very well argumented. I'm an instant fan.
Wow! I just loved the way she articulated her ideas. What a well-spoken woman.
“The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained."
...Alexander Solzhenitsyn
The Gulag Archipelago, a book that really challenged my ideas of the world. If people would meditate on this one line for a moment.
Watching and listening to this was the best few minutes of my time spent in ages upon ages. Fed my mind and my soul. Thank you for this gem
" Popularity is sometimes a measure of how much people aren't thinking ". So true.
I rewatch this every time i feel despair.
She speaks a truth that it's so rare to hear these days.
Ayishat, gave a brilliant interview on the Triggernometry UA-cam channel.
Really eloquent, smart, realistic & knowing of the human condition.
thanks for the info.
@@bukomafriq You're most welcome. Triggernometry has some really interesting guests, across a range of topics.
@@neildunford241 yes it's a great channel. I discovered Coleman Hughes there.
@@bukomafriq @bukomafriq Coleman is so smart, well read, articulate & measured - I wish we regularly saw him on mainstream media. I really enjoy the Darkhorse podcast too. During the recent social issues in the States, Brett Weinstein gathered some of the most interesting voices of black intellectuals, that the nation has to offer. ua-cam.com/video/pHGt733yw3g/v-deo.html
@@neildunford241 thanks for the tip. I shall watch it.
Yeeessss thank you!! I’m so relieved to see someone with a bigger platform talking about all of this 👌🏼👏🏽
the problem with cancel culture: *everything.*
saved you 5 minutes
This is the best explanation of it I came across. Thank you
I'm so glad this came up on my recommendations, a calm and positive voice of reason, Thank you Ayishat. I will certainly be watching & listening to more of your talks.
I love what you say, Glad to have discovered your work, by pure chance. Thank you!
Such an important message and structure of thought being conveyed here. We need fluid thoughts and ideas in order to improve the structure of society and culture on an ongoing basis. Dogmatic thought is always a danger to society. Good and evil exists in ideas and the perpetually unchallenged dogmatic approach to these acquired ideas . Always know you can change and improve and know society can too. Popularity means nothing about goodness or morality. A popular idea isn't necessarily inherently good or useful.
Love this ❤️
“Sometimes popularity is just a measure of how much people aren’t thinking.” So many amazing quotes in this one video. Thank you for your brilliant point of view.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 The voice of wisdom
Enlightenment right there.
Right on... Cancel culture is the worst of this younger generation. What hubris from people who don't even know who THEY are yet.
"We see in others what we see in ourselves... wherever you hate in me, is what you hate in yourself." (Jungian)
Fred Farmer It’s not just this young generation, it’s a mark of immaturity regardless of the generation. Almost all young people go through a phase where they are convinced that they are always right and everyone who disagrees even the slightest with them are evil, oppressive bitches who deserve to be attacked. I know that I went through a phase like that shortly after I graduated from college in 2000. The only difference is that social media didn’t exist yet. Thankfully, I eventually learned that there’s a difference between outright bullies and those who mean well but simply need to be educated about certain issues. Attacking and shaming people is only going to backfire.
Isn't cancel culture just repackaging the power to boycot as if its something new and unique to young people? There is nothing inhernetly wrong it seems to me to choose to boycot something, even if your rationale for doing so does not hold up that is still your right. Nor is it inherently wrong to seek to influence others to do the same, after all that is where the boycot gets its power. The boycot is inherently a political action, the left boycots goya, the right boycots starbucks, we criticize this activity but we understand it. Why do we now treat cancel culture as "different" from boycotting? I argue that we are applying it to the younger generation and because the narrative is set by social rather than traditional media this boycot is being treated as if it were different. Its concequences are different certainly, but I can't buy the argument that its motivations or structures are.
@@curtmacquarrie There's a difference between boycotting a certain company that produces food and insisting that when a TV personality says something that they find problematic, the network should fire them.
@@rebecca8525 perhaps there is, but it's fundamentally the same act. What is your proposal to deal with "cancelling" and would that not by its nature infringe on people rights?
I think humans have always been capable of this, now we simply have the means
Such wisdom is seldom seen
Simply brilliant.
At the same time we have to acknowledge fake apologies. Sometimes people are just sorry because they got caught doing wrong, not because they did the act in the first place. But education of the individual is key here
Wölf And attacking, shaming, and cancelling people is NOT going to educate them. It’s only going to backfire.
But often beeing caught is what is needed to drive home the point, that the action was harmful or 'bad'. That's what Satre meant. The apologies of people beeing caught can still be honest and valid, even though they might not have apologized if not beeing caught. Ones feeling of 'shame' is created with the people surrounding us ('hell is other people')
I think there's not enough personal accountability in this society and as long as someone puts together a good enough sounding excuse then all is forgiven.
@@KKelly-ng1ni that is certainly not true for all illegal acts. Everything else is up to debate, even though cancel culture is one phenomenon suggesting the opposite.
"Sometimes popularity is just a measure of how much people aren't thinking."
Yes, that, or "Sometimes popularity is just a measure of how much people have been trained to actually not think."
Love this video! First time viewer here. I could listen and listen to her.
What a beautiful person inside and out❤️
Such sanity! Absolutely spot on, accurate, timely, and very very well expressed. Impressive.
Thanks for a informative piece of Food for thought..
Wow. Did not expect to hear anything so insightful right before bed. This made my day.
Brilliant. I really appreciate this. Touched on so many points in such a short space.
This was absolutely brilliant. The whole world needs to hear this message.
Sometimes popularity is just the measure of how people are thinking
What an incredible speaker! There are so many important concepts in this about mental health, search for truth with humility, talent not the same as character, and the capacity for human growth. Listening to this was so healing to find floating around online. Definitely going to follow her work.
This is so wonderfully put. Thank you.
I think that one of Johnson's chief attractions is that he has low personal standards and that helps others to justify their own low personal standards.
i think this is especially important for those asking for forgiveness. it's equally evil if we do not give second chances for those who accepts the errors of what they said or did. and if they still continue to do that i think that's a different thing
"When you are wrong you are nearer to being right." I love this, brilliant video.
You are brilliant Ayishat, there are too few of you out there to make a difference! It saddens my heart to see what vicious people do when they pounce on someone who is likely going through the journey of discovery about how wrong they were, the first step for that is doing something that maybe we wouldn't like but it's important for people who are not yet self reflective to make these mistakes so that they can grow. We have to allow people the chance to do that, grow. That's why we are here, that's the purpose of life everyone keeps trying to find but it's a simple purpose something most people won't accept as true but it is true, we simply have to grow.