Are Studios Ruining Cinema or Are We to Blame?

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    ▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    0:00​​ - Are Studios Ruining Cinema?
    1:21 - How Are Studios Involved?
    2:51 - What Is The Process?
    3:59 - Studio Films
    5:40 - Independent Films
    6:36 - The Godfather
    7:37 - Test Screenings
    9:26 - Artistic Freedom
    10:04 - Studio Overstep
    12:16 - Are We Also To Blame?
    14:28 - How To Fix Cinema
    16:22 - Want To Learn More?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 78

  • @clayformations1638
    @clayformations1638 2 місяці тому +29

    We forget that art takes time.

  • @rogueguardian
    @rogueguardian 2 місяці тому +35

    Someone FINALLY made a video on my frustrations on BOTH SIDES when it comes to movies. You guys get it.

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 2 місяці тому +49

    I thinks it’s a combination of both, tbh

  • @millennialmike575
    @millennialmike575 2 місяці тому +10

    I loved the balance take on this. It's hard to ask Studios to change but it is even harder to ask the audience to change and that is why the audience needs to change. Of course, there are economic and cultural factors that cause the audience to choose the kinds of films that they do. It's complex and there is no easy or satisfying solution.

  • @acinemalens
    @acinemalens 2 місяці тому +6

    Really agree with your solution. Honestly I see a balance between blockbusters and independent cinema, only for it to be distributed unevenly where blockbusters dominate the showtime. It is really our action as audience that matters to support indie films, which is coming to the opening weekend

  • @cornerstonedigitalmedia
    @cornerstonedigitalmedia 2 місяці тому +4

    Perfect example of practice what you preach! Excellent video guys!

  • @TacoBel
    @TacoBel 2 місяці тому +9

    I really wish more people went to see The Creator, it was such a good movie that completely went under the radar. Also good to see Marvel reevaluate the projects they have been working on. A balance is hard to find between quality and money but decisions made are made with the audience in mind, and you are right that we need to stop supporting what we call poor movies when we dont support the movies we say we want to see. "Vote with your wallet" I love that line.

    • @Christopher-ms5ke
      @Christopher-ms5ke Місяць тому

      I’d love to see a directors cut of The Creator. I had heard so much hate about it that by the time I watched it I loved it. Very well made and one of the best cinematographers (Greg Fraser).

  • @wolvespackstudios
    @wolvespackstudios Місяць тому +1

    Movies used to be a big thing. If you wanted to watch one you’d either have to go to the cinema or buy a DVD or even wait for it to be aired on TV. Now with streaming services being soo popular now, movies are really made for quantity now, and not quality. I mean the amount of movies being put out in Netflix constantly because that’s all people do these days, just sit down and watch anything they can find on there.

  • @andrewreynolds912
    @andrewreynolds912 2 місяці тому +4

    Its a bunch of mix of both we constantly forget art takes time to make but they also forget the studios dont have unlimited resources, honestly people like to criticize stuff instead of actually watc'hing it they say its bad or good instead of honest reviews.
    as a gen z people are full of hyp'ocrisy saying disney is woke etc but their not its st'upid rig'ht wing bs critical drinker and nerdroditic etc are guilty of this.

    • @VonJay
      @VonJay Місяць тому

      Studios became too big to take risks. After the telecommunications act of 96 large media outlets started acquiring everything they could or merging with the competition. In comes execs that want predictable outcomes and invests heavily in research groups and committees to influence their scripts. This in turn gives life to audiences that value wish fulfillment, while also engineering the expectation of wish fulfillment. But what these execs fail to realize is that fans are horrible writers, and that the research groups are essentially gathering information about people that think they know what they want, while also not knowing what works. While also not knowing what makes a film great and or generational. While in the history of film there’s an inherent artistic expression of an individual, or group of individuals. A signature, a fingerprint, a voice congealed into live action. The rarest thing you could find, expressed and taking you places you’d never imagine. Now film has become the artistic expression of popular opinion. The most predictable and risk averse expression there is.

  • @WolfsHaven
    @WolfsHaven 2 місяці тому +1

    We have multiple things killing movies. At the theater, the first thing is price. The second is the shutdowns, they changed a lot of people's habits and they became more comfortable just waiting on movies to air at home. Granted the industry was already moving that way.
    Back when in the 80's movies didn't go to video and TV till ticket sales dried up. Often you'd wait around 6 months to a year before a movie was available to buy or rent. Then you'd have to wait months to a year before it went to cable or network TV.
    As the video market blew up, especially after DVDs and Blu-ray, studios started rushing to get those sales sooner. Now we have streaming and simultaneous releases in theaters and streaming. Add in 157 channels and streaming services, pushing to get everything thing else sooner and then all the original content, provides alternatives where average to sub-par content is available cheaper and easier than going to the theater. The tolerance to watch it on the big screen has dropped.
    Even before the push on modern "morality", Hollywood started sending anything that wasn't obviously going to be a blockbuster, straight to video, cable, and streaming. It's no longer about if a movie will make a profit but how big of one, we are lacking a lot of variety. Add in the shorter wait time for smaller screens, it's hurting a bunch.
    When modern "morality" is the focus point of most new media, and it is falling flat with half of the audience, and they keep doubling down on it, it's adding to the hurt. Again, more variety is the answer.
    Not every movie needs to be an action packed block buster, and cut back on the modern "morality" push. You'll get more people in theaters and make more money. Lastly stop pushing so much to TV and streaming so fast. Of course then well change the conversation to how TV and streaming is dieing.
    The biggest problem there is too much competition, especially when the same parent company owns multiple channels and services. They are competing with themselves more than each other, and still losing.

  • @andresmontesinos7635
    @andresmontesinos7635 2 місяці тому +2

    This video was great, nice way of putting the problem in both sides, please keep doing this kind of excellent work 🎉

  • @zakuraiyadesu
    @zakuraiyadesu 2 місяці тому

    Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!

  • @shidanslair
    @shidanslair 2 місяці тому +1

    A New Hope was saved by test projections, but still the studios sometimes don't listen to the people, if they did we would be able to watch the original not CGI versions of the Star Wars trilogy.

  • @jayrathod2995
    @jayrathod2995 Місяць тому

    Personally I never pay attention to what studio has made a movie, just watching trailer and knowing about the story if I find it something worth watching, I'll give it a try

  • @sychaellawinger5448
    @sychaellawinger5448 2 місяці тому +1

    I think every who watches movies and shows should watch this video, so they at least have understanding and wisdom before going to the keyboard!

  • @christinehamilton35
    @christinehamilton35 2 місяці тому +1

    As a writer and a small business owner, I feel most modern films fail in the one area. Giving the customer what they want. I check out the films in cinemas regularly and most of the time none of the are directed at me. Multiple remakes of superhero comics are not varied enough for all viewers. Then an indie film comes out and it is a hit. How many times can you see Batman?

  • @NinjaSlothAnimation
    @NinjaSlothAnimation 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey Tomorrow’s Filmmakers,
    Will you be making any tutorials or challenges soon?

  • @wolvespackstudios
    @wolvespackstudios Місяць тому

    I was literally thinking about when you guys are gonna upload again😂 Thank you!

  • @Ravenhoodie
    @Ravenhoodie 2 місяці тому

    Great video. But I think maybe also you need to talk about Blackrock, and their ESG score system.

  • @MikAlexander
    @MikAlexander Місяць тому

    Another reason for movies being made as they are for last 30 years iis that since mid 90's studios were being take over by hedges, who added a lot of management layers, and basically run studios like banks.

  • @NinjaSlothAnimation
    @NinjaSlothAnimation 2 місяці тому

    A great independent movie is One Life.
    It stars Anthony Hopkins, and it’s an introspective and emotional story of how one man could make a difference!

  • @minaamgad
    @minaamgad 2 місяці тому +1

    The pushing of a specific agenda by studios are the main reason for the Ruining Cinema.

    • @Ravenhoodie
      @Ravenhoodie 2 місяці тому

      yeah, the studios are being pushed by blackrock and the ESG score system

  • @bsharp3281
    @bsharp3281 Місяць тому

    The problem isn't us, exactly. We're just being who evolution shaped is into. We're attracted to whatever it decides. Lately we're migrating from movies to UA-cam, etc. We're following narrative because we're designed to. But we're also following convenience because we're designed to as well.

  • @hsianghyue
    @hsianghyue 2 місяці тому

    It’s not about Studio, it’s about people watch movies to enjoy not to be educated.

  • @SPVFilmsLtd
    @SPVFilmsLtd 2 місяці тому

    It always floors me to see the sheer vast hordes of "cinema fans" (on UA-cam especially) who clearly have never once stopped to look at a bad movie's writer or director and tried to see what else they've done. Studios are rarely to blame except in the sense that studios aren't usually the tastemakers, but they market themselves as tastemakers. There can be a bad version of a movie a studio wants and a good version of a movie and if the good version doesn't come across the studio's desk by a certain time and date, they WILL make the bad version because there are other factors at play for studios beyond "waiting around til the film is awesome".

  • @RodneyKimbangu
    @RodneyKimbangu 2 місяці тому

    Good luck expecting quality from an instant gratification prone generation!

  • @VonJay
    @VonJay Місяць тому

    Studios became too big to take risks. After the telecommunications act of 96 large media outlets started acquiring everything they could or merging with the competition. In comes execs that want predictable outcomes and invests heavily in research groups and committees to influence their scripts. This in turn gives life to audiences that value wish fulfillment, while also engineering the expectation of wish fulfillment. But what these execs fail to realize is that fans are horrible writers, and that the research groups are essentially gathering information about people that think they know what they want, while also not knowing what works. While also not knowing what makes a film great and or generational. While in the history of film there’s an inherent artistic expression of an individual, or group of individuals. A signature, a fingerprint, a voice congealed into live action. The rarest thing you could find, expressed and taking you places you’d never imagine. Now film has become the artistic expression of popular opinion. The most predictable and risk averse expression there is.

  • @ParthibanSattanathan
    @ParthibanSattanathan Місяць тому

    Kindly Mention the all movie names

  • @itwasme2435
    @itwasme2435 2 місяці тому +1

    As southpark says: "put a chick in it and make it lame and gay"
    Or alternatively, go woke, go broke.
    Personnaly, i have been disappinted by the industry, so i never get in cinema again and don’t watch movie at home. Now its familly, youtube, sport, home … i spend my time.
    The only movie i get to see on theater (after 10+ year) is top gun 2.

  • @shuang7877
    @shuang7877 17 днів тому

    I don't think releasing Madame Web is a risk-aversion decision. It's ballsy as hell.

  • @salvatoresal9343
    @salvatoresal9343 2 місяці тому

    Combination of both.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 2 місяці тому +1

    So a work might be two from this list: quick, cheap and good.... they're not good though

  • @jonassevin9950
    @jonassevin9950 2 місяці тому

    Creatures of Conquest…look it up

  • @anubhavrathore47
    @anubhavrathore47 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi !! 🙃

  • @shidanslair
    @shidanslair 2 місяці тому

    Sure I'll support non Hollywood films, but Hollywood films is all I get in my theaters. I couldn't even watch Last Night in Soho or Godzilla Minus One and those aren't independent films.

  • @rogueguardian
    @rogueguardian 2 місяці тому

    8:56 Big thanks to George's wife on that one.😊(Correction first wife)

  • @alexbrunner1900
    @alexbrunner1900 2 місяці тому +1

    Studio interference is usually bad

    • @rogueguardian
      @rogueguardian 2 місяці тому +1

      Most of the time yeah, but fun fact when making Batman begins, the studio asked Nolan if he could incorporate the batmobile into the movie, even though he initially didn't want to, they compromised. It's not impossible.

    • @alexbrunner1900
      @alexbrunner1900 2 місяці тому +2

      @@rogueguardian especially when you have people who actually care about the movie they’re making

    • @rogueguardian
      @rogueguardian 2 місяці тому

      ​@@alexbrunner1900👍

  • @DFMoray
    @DFMoray Місяць тому

    They’re afraid. Always afraid.

  • @michaelt.3384
    @michaelt.3384 Місяць тому

    Good thing we have A24

  • @joem2042
    @joem2042 8 годин тому

    all the live action crap from Disney is to blame

  • @gigi1776
    @gigi1776 Місяць тому +1

    It is such a refresher to hear more filmmakers standing up and not being afraid to call out the wokeness. I really love that you guys are making more videos about the theory behind modern cinema. It’s scary to think about how much influence the entertainment industry has had on society’s principles and morals since it first became an industry to begin with.
    P.S. Nice shout-outs to Sound of Freedom and Ordinary Angels (both GREAT movies that we could tell were not just “Christian”-labeled genre titles)

  • @tintinfromindia2103
    @tintinfromindia2103 2 місяці тому

    Are studios ruining cinema or audience are to be blamed? Well, why should public be blamed? So, the question lies with studios. Movies, unfortunately are divided into VFX loaded superheros & that's business...a junk food...!! The rest & rare are character driven, theme driven which are not being made! Audiences have many choices because their time is now taken over by mobile phones...with SMN.. OTT platforms & studious should stop blaming consumption because they're not taking risk with original content, a good story, well told kind of movies. ..those that give satisfaction of going to movie theatre & justifies the price of admission ticket.. it's the studios that need introspection & course correction because there's creative recession

    • @TacoBel
      @TacoBel 2 місяці тому +2

      That is 'almost' exactly his point. But the Audience is partly to blame for getting to the studios to the point that they are at.

  • @ryanriaz
    @ryanriaz 2 місяці тому

    I think big studios are blinding us with CGI with a terrible plot.

  • @1bpmfilms
    @1bpmfilms 2 місяці тому +1

    Audiences aren’t to blame because audiences don’t make crappy movies.

    • @PurpleTiger10
      @PurpleTiger10 2 місяці тому

      I don't think the blame is entierly on their part. It's both the studios and the audience.

    • @1bpmfilms
      @1bpmfilms 2 місяці тому

      @@PurpleTiger10 Audiences play no part in film production.

    • @isaiahwilliams2642
      @isaiahwilliams2642 Місяць тому

      You ever heard the term "vote with your wallet"?
      The reasons the studios greenlight so many crappy superhero movies is because they keep making money in the box office, even the terrible ones. That's also how Michael Bay was allowed to make so many bad transformers movies. People like trash, and the studios take advantage of that.
      ​@@1bpmfilms

  • @ryanmatthews3609
    @ryanmatthews3609 Місяць тому

    hollywood and disney are to blame.

  • @mpaige101
    @mpaige101 2 місяці тому

    I found this to be an overall horrible take. It lays out some points re. how studios are involved in the process, but doesn’t tie it all together coherently. “Studios follow the money”, great, so does everyone with a product to sell. But if your product doesn’t sell well, you research why, and you course correct. In the case of the downward trend in cinema, you want to give the audience partial credit, because they like a certain type of film over another. In this case the studios saw a trend and they opened a firehose of similarly themed films in an effort to capitalize on the trend. Without thought to quality, or what audiences were actually responding to, they churned out “content” instead of creativity. This is entirely the fault of the studios. Saying it’s the audience’s problem in any capacity, is like saying that a patron, who wishes to have a fine meal at a prestigious restaurant, is at fault when he is served a meal based on only a picture, and the meal isn’t cooked. This is fast food cinema. It’s a pretty picture of what you might enjoy, but the reality isn’t what was “promised”. You cannot fault the audience for hoping that the amazing trailer they saw leads them to an exciting movie-going experience. Good marketing is putting people in seats. Bad films are making people complain that the reality didn’t match the promise. Blame the studios for wanting to create fast food instead of fine dining. The reality is people show up for quality regardless of genre. You made a point that “studio interference” is bandied about too much, but you didn’t make a final coherent point. Poor writing, poor logic, do better.

  • @Timosa
    @Timosa 2 місяці тому +2

    1st

  • @aaronjaggers3117
    @aaronjaggers3117 Місяць тому +1

    There ruining it ! Period

  • @Matt_Mosley1983
    @Matt_Mosley1983 2 місяці тому +5

    The studios couldn't interfere on _those_ films because they were true stories or based on existing (and limited) source material. And when it comes to filmmakers like Christopher Nolan, he's trusted.
    Films do NOT start with the Producer being hired first. Even if you're talking about existing IP, it would first begin with an acquirement of the original material.
    *99% of films start with an idea by a writer. Writer developed and then sold before possible re-writes and such.*
    _"Superhero fatigue"_ ? _"Superhero gargbage"_ ?
    Clearly you're nothing but a hater. There is no fatigue (that's bs put forth by online article writers looking for clickbait) and whilst some SH films have lost quality, they're not 'garbage' over all, YOU just don't like them. Me, I like everything and I write for every genre because of it.
    Don't be a hater, there's enough of them already, too many in fact. Share ideas of how the system could be better, not a video crying about how Hollywood doesn't make what you want to see. People who do that don't belong on a channel called *Tomorrow's Filmmakers* because they won't be.
    Peace.

    • @TacoBel
      @TacoBel 2 місяці тому +2

      I very well could be wrong but here is my take. "superhero fatigue" refers to the poor quality (in various different ways) movies that come out. I am with you on a lot of movies are actually done well, but there is one or two key aspects that are not. Like in the Marvels, I didn't actually mind the story, it filled enough space for the length of the movie. What I did not like was some director mistakes and incomplete vfx shots. It turned the entire thing into a comedy movie for me... as in the mistakes being funny. But I can certainly see the "superhero fatigue" side of it as well. And in fact at the end he DID share ideas of how the system could be better.

    • @Matt_Mosley1983
      @Matt_Mosley1983 2 місяці тому

      @@TacoBel well said

  • @sakosake7801
    @sakosake7801 Місяць тому

    We need A Movie about real Palestine by Palestinian Directors! Support this quality,, cuz they always try to burry it.

  • @WillBeamon
    @WillBeamon Місяць тому

    Only referring to Lucasfilm as Disney but not Marvel? Blaming pandering wokeness? Maybe stick to tutorials. Big yikes.

  • @firefighter5559
    @firefighter5559 Місяць тому +1

    Fire Kathleen Kennedy

  • @SPVFilmsLtd
    @SPVFilmsLtd 2 місяці тому +2

    12:55 - nah you've just lost me. You've replaced one conspiracy theory about the studio system of film production with another conspiracy theory - wokeness.
    Kudos for trying to fight one narrative, but yikes bro - if you really, truly, think there is a 'woke' agenda rather than just a 'cash' agenda, then you don't actually understand how studios work.

  • @yeya6287
    @yeya6287 Місяць тому

    nothing original