Garak and Quark both know that when it comes to the security of the station, the safest place is right next to Odo. He didn’t call for help because he knew Odo could handle it.
@@DrewSavo I'm pretty sure OP is referring to Garak being surrounded by the Klingons at the end of the clip. And honestly, there was no point in calling Odo by then anyways. They would've beat to a pulp if he tried.
Its nice to see how Odo and Garak are still having breakfast after the events of The Die is Cast, as Odo knew its the only time Garak is able to relax socially (lunch with Julian). And I really like how with the cup trick Odo is doing his best to be as ‘involved’ in it as he can. I’ve said it before: the most appealing and enthralling part of the show was the relationships between characters.
Actually Odo started joining Garak for breakfast after the events of the The Die is Cast. Odo stated that he was doing so as the last scene in that episode.
It's unlikely this was intentional, but Odo's producing of coffee in the cup after drinking it demonstrates how changeling Martok was able to fool Sisko and Kira. Absorb blood, and produce it at will.
The coffee is part of Odo's body, as it never stops touching him. Changeling Martok must have used fake blood or real blood from another being, like how Joseph Sisko suggested it might be done.
@@Rubyofthedead yah true. if a changeling can "hold" blood in a pack somewhere in the body, they can easily have a small supply underneath the "epidermis" that drops out on a knife cut.. similar to how IRL people hide from urine/blood testing.
I just realized... They brought a total of FIVE Klingon "warriors" to beat up a single Cardassian tailor. Can't wait to hear the glorious song about this battle.
The craziest thing about where Martok insists on everyone shedding blood to reveal they’re not Changelings… is that *HE’S A CHANGELING.* When they later save the real Martok from the Dominion POW camp, he'd never met any of the DS9 crew. So the Founders either found a solution for blood screens almost right away, or maybe they never even worked AT ALL!
Or it was piss poor writing. All they could have done was just say he changed his mind about supporting the attack against the cards and supporting the attack against and he was later kidnapped
@@attiepollard7847 I don't see it as poor writing at all. It makes perfect sense for Changeling Martok to support attacking the Cardassians. The more infighting in the Alpha quadrant the better, and this war with the Klingons is what lead the Cardassians to join the Dominion.
@@attiepollard7847 It's later made clear that the Founders found a way around blood screenings. This just shows they figured it out MUCH sooner than the Federation anticipated. This works greatly to the Changeling's advantage, as they never suspect him. Even when they figure out he WAS replaced, they first assume it happened much later.
I've accidentally sliced my palm on multiple occasions in the kitchen and while it hurt like hell, it was never any sort of critical injury -- I just wrapped it up and powered through the pain. Not sure why you think it's such a nasty place to get cut. ...Also, yes, I know there's no reasonable explanation for cutting my palm in the kitchen, I was a stupid kid when I was learning to cook.
@@CoralCopperHead Yeah, but it is hard to get it to heal, because you keep opening the wound when you use your hand. Plus, in the movies, they really bear down, like they are digging for gold.
Oh yeah I'll explain. The knife isn't real. Sharp as a spoon. The hand and the knife are treated with chemical compound that turns red when applied. An older Hollywood trick. I'm certain that you could find videos on yt about it.
@@FekLeyrTarg They just already had the fake blood on their palm. Notice how they never show the clean hand first, then have the knife come in and cut. Instead, they have the knife already "cutting" where the fake blood was poured, so that it looks like they're drawing blood.
I like the attention to detail that when Odo gets up to break up the disturbance, the cup of coffee is gone. To any other character, that would have been an error, but since we just got the explanation that both the cup AND coffee are a part of Odo, it being gone is him reabsorbing it to carry out his duties. It being PRESENT after he leaves would have been the error. That's some good forward thinking.
3 random things from this clip. 1: Odo isn't wearing anything clothes 🤫 2: Martock is a changing 🤫 3: The coffee cup is a gentle reminder to Sisko's Dad I paraphrase, how do you know I'm not some changing who killed some poor guy and sucked up their blood to later produce on command.🤓
Wait that's how the founders get past blood letting test. If odo can fool others as if he is drinking and refilling a mug with coffee, ant changling can get around the bleeding
It would've been in character if Kira had rolled her eyes, rolled up her sleeve and cut herself on the arm like a sensible person, rather than slicing open her palm like the idiots in movies always do.
@@BrotherDerrick3X I've never been convinced by that. When Odo was saying about him having tried to eat, he said it just fell through him and made a mess on the ground. I'm not sure a pack of blood could be carried as such for long enough
“Does your mother allow you to speak to men?” “ yes!! She told me that part of my job as a security officer was to confront people who harassed people in public.”
I wonder why they never brought Martok's son back for later episodes of DS9? He was portrayed just in this one episode with Worf taking his knife away at Quarks Bar.
fair do's to the sound effete people, you can here small details behind conversations of the food replecatoes etc's something of my first viewing never noticed,
I just realised, they were not able to show a woman cutting herself on prime time TV. Even tho she is the toughest sob on the show. Did they ever show the Duras Sisters doing any Klingon cutting stuff?
Why the h*ll can't they show a woman cutting herself? What difference does the gender of the person make? Kira did just about everything that her male counterparts did, what line would be crossed by her cutting her palm?
Am I the only one who thinks it’s a little refreshing that their first method of identifying Changelings wasn’t effective? It also shows how dangerous they really are
So was this Martok a Founder? And if so how did he pass the blood test? Or was Martok taken after the Klingon / Cardassian war started? Inquiring minds . . .
If you pay attention to Odo's explanation at the end about absorbing coffee and being able to produce it through his body afterwards, it's implied that changelings can do that with any liquid, including blood. They just put it inside their body and release it when needed
No. This is (as revealed much later) a Changeling posing as Martok. I believe the cup trick shown was intended as a subtle hint that Changelings had fine control over liquids from their own bodies even if they fake other liquids, hence the knife test worked the way it did.
@@jawstrock2215 Martok was captured well before the tensions began with the Federation. In the later episode with the prison camp, Martok greets Worf saying he "has heard of him", implying they never met but perhaps heard stories of him (Martok always been a Gowron supporter).
I think that was piss poor writing in ds9 I would have bought that marktok was a changeling after the war woth the feds and he had changed his mind and he was later kidnapped by the Dominion and replaced
Having ODO - a Shapeshifter - who has been in contact with the shapeshifters as he's linked with them before - is probably the greatest security threat you could possibly dream of. Would the FBI, CIA, or NSA allow North Korean, Iranian or Chinese intelligence to "visit" our top security advisers from time to time and have long intimate conversations?
It's a good thing Odo sent Morn away. He would have wiped the floor with the Klingons.
I bet the Klingons would run just from the sound of Morn’s shouting. Truly a bone chilling sound.
Morn loves all the smoke and looking for more… dude’s a savage lmaooooo
I love the fact that Garak could have called for security but instead he just starts insulting the Klingons.
Garak and Quark both know that when it comes to the security of the station, the safest place is right next to Odo. He didn’t call for help because he knew Odo could handle it.
@@DrewSavo I'm pretty sure OP is referring to Garak being surrounded by the Klingons at the end of the clip. And honestly, there was no point in calling Odo by then anyways. They would've beat to a pulp if he tried.
4:16 - Odo: "I can't take off my uniform... I AM, the uniform!"
Its nice to see how Odo and Garak are still having breakfast after the events of The Die is Cast, as Odo knew its the only time Garak is able to relax socially (lunch with Julian). And I really like how with the cup trick Odo is doing his best to be as ‘involved’ in it as he can.
I’ve said it before: the most appealing and enthralling part of the show was the relationships between characters.
Actually Odo started joining Garak for breakfast after the events of the The Die is Cast. Odo stated that he was doing so as the last scene in that episode.
@@javaman7199Odo told him he doesn't have breakfast in that that you are referencing
It's unlikely this was intentional, but Odo's producing of coffee in the cup after drinking it demonstrates how changeling Martok was able to fool Sisko and Kira. Absorb blood, and produce it at will.
I was about to make the same comment 😅
The coffee is part of Odo's body, as it never stops touching him. Changeling Martok must have used fake blood or real blood from another being, like how Joseph Sisko suggested it might be done.
Chekov's coffee
@@Rubyofthedead yah true. if a changeling can "hold" blood in a pack somewhere in the body, they can easily have a small supply underneath the "epidermis" that drops out on a knife cut.. similar to how IRL people hide from urine/blood testing.
@@Rubyofthedead Thanks, I forgot about that part.
And that is why Garak was such a lovable character 😄
Ion Knight it’s because he’s such a good tailor!
@@aztn19 that too, yes lol
Garak saw the head-stomping coming, he looked it right in the eyes and promptly mocked it before getting beat down.
I love that guy.
I just realized...
They brought a total of FIVE Klingon "warriors" to beat up a single Cardassian tailor.
Can't wait to hear the glorious song about this battle.
They know better... He is no ordinary tailor
Little does he know, Odo is technically naked at all times.
The craziest thing about where Martok insists on everyone shedding blood to reveal they’re not Changelings… is that *HE’S A CHANGELING.*
When they later save the real Martok from the Dominion POW camp, he'd never met any of the DS9 crew. So the Founders either found a solution for blood screens almost right away, or maybe they never even worked AT ALL!
Or it was piss poor writing. All they could have done was just say he changed his mind about supporting the attack against the cards and supporting the attack against and he was later kidnapped
@@attiepollard7847 I don't see it as poor writing at all. It makes perfect sense for Changeling Martok to support attacking the Cardassians. The more infighting in the Alpha quadrant the better, and this war with the Klingons is what lead the Cardassians to join the Dominion.
@@KingAdrock420 yes but that blood crap don't make any damn sense the minute he started dripping blood and he should have turned into a changeling.
@@attiepollard7847 It's later made clear that the Founders found a way around blood screenings. This just shows they figured it out MUCH sooner than the Federation anticipated. This works greatly to the Changeling's advantage, as they never suspect him. Even when they figure out he WAS replaced, they first assume it happened much later.
@@KingAdrock420 but was it made clear before they got to the station because if not I call that piss poor writing
I always get a kick out of how they always slice their palm in the movies. One of the worst place to cut yourself.
In fact I wonder how the special effects people pull that off as I can hardly imagine the actors cutting their real skin.
I've accidentally sliced my palm on multiple occasions in the kitchen and while it hurt like hell, it was never any sort of critical injury -- I just wrapped it up and powered through the pain. Not sure why you think it's such a nasty place to get cut.
...Also, yes, I know there's no reasonable explanation for cutting my palm in the kitchen, I was a stupid kid when I was learning to cook.
@@CoralCopperHead Yeah, but it is hard to get it to heal, because you keep opening the wound when you use your hand. Plus, in the movies, they really bear down, like they are digging for gold.
Oh yeah I'll explain. The knife isn't real. Sharp as a spoon. The hand and the knife are treated with chemical compound that turns red when applied.
An older Hollywood trick.
I'm certain that you could find videos on yt about it.
@@FekLeyrTarg They just already had the fake blood on their palm. Notice how they never show the clean hand first, then have the knife come in and cut. Instead, they have the knife already "cutting" where the fake blood was poured, so that it looks like they're drawing blood.
I like the attention to detail that when Odo gets up to break up the disturbance, the cup of coffee is gone. To any other character, that would have been an error, but since we just got the explanation that both the cup AND coffee are a part of Odo, it being gone is him reabsorbing it to carry out his duties. It being PRESENT after he leaves would have been the error. That's some good forward thinking.
Odo should've shape shifted into different clothes and just gone: "Feeling Targy? Leap."
A variation on the classic Hawk line from "Homecoming", the SPENSER:FOR HIRE season 3 opener...
"Anytime you want! You feelin' froggish, now LEAP!!"
I love the fact that changeling Martok wanted everyone to do the changeling blood test. He was very committed to the role.
It's nice to know that in the 24th century, grown adults still play with their food.
Love Garak.
It's a shame we never had more social interactions between Garak and Odo.
That wasn't very honourable 5 Klingons against poor Garak
Five grown Klingons against one simple humble tailor? The nerve!
Those poor Klingons wouldn't stand a chance
3 random things from this clip.
1: Odo isn't wearing anything clothes 🤫
2: Martock is a changing 🤫
3: The coffee cup is a gentle reminder to Sisko's Dad I paraphrase, how do you know I'm not some changing who killed some poor guy and sucked up their blood to later produce on command.🤓
Wait that's how the founders get past blood letting test. If odo can fool others as if he is drinking and refilling a mug with coffee, ant changling can get around the bleeding
blood changes as it leaves the body. having it in a nother body like a cup isnt going to alter that.
@@jasonpierce4518 what bens father said is their trick, they take someones blood and spit it out, as martok had done.
"Oh you'd be surprised at the things you can learn while doing alterations." Garrick is one sick man, lol.
Joke's on that Klingon, Odo's uniform is actually just part of him!
Legend says the burn from Garak's insult was felt by that Klingon's mother.
It would've been in character if Kira had rolled her eyes, rolled up her sleeve and cut herself on the arm like a sensible person, rather than slicing open her palm like the idiots in movies always do.
Props to Quark who knew the Klingons were up to something before anybody else.
I remember this part
How did this changeling Martok pass this test?
He had a pack of blood hidden.
@@BrotherDerrick3X I've never been convinced by that. When Odo was saying about him having tried to eat, he said it just fell through him and made a mess on the ground. I'm not sure a pack of blood could be carried as such for long enough
@@timorgano remember that the Founders were better at holding their form than Odo. Odo also was never able to change into a humanoid form.
Presumably he took some random Klingon's blood and hid it inside him, precisely how Sisko's father suggested.
@@redpillfreedom6692 I’d always thought that was what happened too
“Does your mother allow you to speak to men?”
“ yes!! She told me that part of my job as a security officer was to confront people who harassed people in public.”
Wasn’t Martok a Changeling in this scene?
Correct.
Five against one? Doesn't seem very... honourable.
I would buy a four-piece set of those cups
Garak knew what Henry Hill knew. “Everybody takes a beating sometime”.
Wrong blood Martok....silly changeling, Klingon blood is pink not red.
That’s not martok.
The blood will tell..that's a tshirt.
I wonder why they never brought Martok's son back for later episodes of DS9? He was portrayed just in this one episode with Worf taking his knife away at Quarks Bar.
fair do's to the sound effete people, you can here small details behind conversations of the food replecatoes etc's something of my first viewing never noticed,
Wouldn't the universal translator translate the Klingon dialect automatically?
That would make staff meetings more interesting.
so martok was a changling in this ep and was able to pass the hand cutting blood test?
I just realised, they were not able to show a woman cutting herself on prime time TV. Even tho she is the toughest sob on the show. Did they ever show the Duras Sisters doing any Klingon cutting stuff?
Why the h*ll can't they show a woman cutting herself? What difference does the gender of the person make? Kira did just about everything that her male counterparts did, what line would be crossed by her cutting her palm?
Am I the only one who thinks it’s a little refreshing that their first method of identifying Changelings wasn’t effective? It also shows how dangerous they really are
Was this before or after Martok was replaced by a changling
Sorry Odo, I can chew my finger nails and regrow them too.
Essentially your coffee trick
just sayin.
So can you spontaneously "opt out" of the univeral translator if you want something you say to go uninterpreted?
Hey remember when Klingon blood used to be pink? I never understood why they dropped that on DS9 and beyond.
Did they fix Martok's eye?
I’m white and I’m not seeing why blacks were treated differently back than. The blood is the same as mine
So was this Martok a Founder? And if so how did he pass the blood test? Or was Martok taken after the Klingon / Cardassian war started? Inquiring minds . . .
If you pay attention to Odo's explanation at the end about absorbing coffee and being able to produce it through his body afterwards, it's implied that changelings can do that with any liquid, including blood. They just put it inside their body and release it when needed
Martock had a messed up eye…is this the episode when they are in the simulation?
No. This is (as revealed much later) a Changeling posing as Martok.
I believe the cup trick shown was intended as a subtle hint that Changelings had fine control over liquids from their own bodies even if they fake other liquids, hence the knife test worked the way it did.
I thought Klingon blood wasnt red? See star trek V
When did they get to mardok
Martok
This Matov is the chnagling, right??
Martok
Yes but that was bad writing
Stupid question
Is that the real martok? before the pow camp.
This is clearly before the pow camp, as the Dominion is not allied with Cardassia yet.. but it could technically be before he is captured.
I did write stupid question.
@@jawstrock2215 Martok was captured well before the tensions began with the Federation. In the later episode with the prison camp, Martok greets Worf saying he "has heard of him", implying they never met but perhaps heard stories of him (Martok always been a Gowron supporter).
I think that was piss poor writing in ds9 I would have bought that marktok was a changeling after the war woth the feds and he had changed his mind and he was later kidnapped by the Dominion and replaced
Having ODO - a Shapeshifter - who has been in contact with the shapeshifters as he's linked with them before - is probably the greatest security threat you could possibly dream of.
Would the FBI, CIA, or NSA allow North Korean, Iranian or Chinese intelligence to "visit" our top security advisers from time to time and have long intimate conversations?