Super Extended - FFIX Grand Cross
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2011
- All credit goes to Squaresoft. I own nothing.
Well, here we are. My 6th consecutive successful extension. And I've gone for something a little more challenging. Final Fantasy 9's final boss theme
Enjoy.
“This is a tragedy, you know?” -Kuja
“Then I’m gonna rewrite the script!” -Zidane
Vivi: "I'm out of MP."
Zidane: "Then use an Ether."
Vivi: "B-but you can't buy Ethers..."
Zidane: "IT'S THE FINAL BATTLE!"
Vivi: "But I only have 85 of them."
So true
I do the same thing
i never use ether in my entire life
Nice reference
@@Voidi-Void YES! FINALLY! SOMEONE GOT THE REFERENCE!
@@mariogirl8100 Help?😂 I didn’t get it.
This fight is pure symbolism for the lingering feeling of death and loneliness constantly over the party's heads for the entire game. Not even Kuja was able to run away from it long enough
Memento mori
No it isnt you just think the song is epic lmao
@@m74568 The song is written deliberately. This is how songs capture these feelings. This is often why people write songs.
The song is designed to express the feeling of existential dread, nothingness, running away, despair.
@@fulgerion facts spoken
FF9 is all nostalgia and references. Pretty sure Necron is just a reference to the Giant Space Flea From Nowhere final bosses of past games like Zeromus and Cloud of Darkness.
Necron is the embodiment of absolute nihilism, the belief that nothing matters and life is meaningless
He embodies the belief characters grasps with through the story, from Freya's hopelessness to losing her home, her people, and the man she loved, to Garnet losing her mother, to Vivi knowing his existence is short lived, to Zidane for similar reasons questioning the point of his existence.
And of course Kuja feeling that same way and believing nobody else should exist if he is destined to die.
All those feelings of life having no meaning is what Necron is, so in that sense him being the final boss makes sense, he is what the characters are fighting to overcome in themselves.
In the end, even Kuja overcame it, when he saved them in the end, teleporting them to safety.
It's honestly so weird but endlessly fascinating to see how often nihilism is percieved as being an inherently evil or destructive mindset, and is so frequently used for villains. I mean, it can work like that, for sure - when nihilism is taken in the wrong direction. But it is absolutely doable to be a nihilist and not be a monster.
I mean, I'm a nihilist. I don't think our universe has any intrinsic purpose built into it. I don't think life carries built-in, univrsal, intrinsic value. No grand plan, no cosmic purpose, no list of instructions. Just a freak accident and a life I didn't ask for but have anyway.
And I like it like that. I can see how it might be distressing for someone to settle on this mindset, but I find it liberating, in a way. If there isn't an intrinsic purpose or meaning to this universe or this life, then that means I can decide for myself what I WANT my purpose to be in my life. I can define myself and put personal value where I wish without worrying about breaking some nebulous, poorly written existential rules. It doesn't matter to me if the things I do are objectively pointless. Humans have never been any good with objectivity anyway. I didn't ask to be here, but here I am. Might as well have fun while I'm around, y'know?
So from where I stand, as a nihilist, villains who use their own nihilism as an excuse to try and end everything and everyone else are just kind of silly. Like, Necron, Kefka, Fandaniel, you little bitches, brew a coffee and take up a hobby.
@@Skijaramaz "If there isn't an intrinsic purpose or meaning to this universe or this life, then that means I can decide for myself what I WANT my purpose to be in my life. I can define myself and put personal value where I wish without worrying about breaking some nebulous, poorly written existential rules."
But what would Sartre say about all that?
@@SkijaramazHello, former Social Sciences Teacher here. Your viewpoint doesn't actually align with nihilism. It aligns with existentialism, which many consider to be the opposite of nihilism.
Under nihilism, nothing can be attributed to having meaning in the way you describe this. Nihilism is true and utter lack of meaning in all things. Wandering through life aimlessly with no moral values or belief in any moral repercussions for any actions as all things are inherently meaningless and cannot be given any meaning by yourself or anything else.
Existentialism, which I personally subscribe to as well like yourself, is a more optimistic view on the universe. Under existentialism, we can attribute meaning to all things. If there is no inherent value, then there can be attributed value to all things by all those who live with the ability to assign such value. Therefore, value is more flexible than it is worthless under existentialism.
I like that you found yourself falling into this viewpoint as well. It shows deep thought on the matter of nihilism and displays good usage of the Socratic method in your own mind. It definitely displays good emotional intelligence on your part, good work discovering this on your own.
Necron appearing out of nowhere makes sense as he answered Kuja's call to end the world, and the party are literally fighting the embodiment of death to make him change his mind.
He did not changed his mind, they beat necron and necron just had to leave, but he stated that as long humanity crawls for their death, he will exist and will comeback
@@parkouremaster Don't believe so, Necron is Death itself. If he really wanted to end all of existence, he could had done it easily but he was willing to give the party a chance to prove that people still wanted to live.
@@balanceherosmt7170 And what happened? He was beated and still said the last thing i said, that doesn't change anything, when you win he started like destroying his body, did he wanted to destroy himself to prove something?
@Mayks Again. He can not truly be killed. He's more of a force of nature than a living being and like you said, he is always around since life and death is natural. He is to remind us that death is inevitable but life simply keeps going on, something that Kuja has no understanding of.
@@balanceherosmt7170 but he was defeated and not mind changed
I think my favorite thing about the Necron fight wasn't that he came out of nowhere, but that it was the first time I actually had to try since getting Auto Regen on all characters
I remember the first time i fought this guy...I had to restart mid-fight because i told Garnet to use Ark while she was in trance, she used Ark like 15 times with slowly diminishing damage numbers down to like 300 for the most powerful summon in the game...And then for the 16th cast the game just got stuck, showing me her casting animation until i reset the game.
Interesting, it glitched and softlocked... Neat.
Wait 15 times as in 15 times in a row? Or you mean you cast it 15 times but each time got weaker? I didn’t know ff9 had multicast summons
@@TShadowStalker I casted it once, and she decided to keep casting it after that, with no other character getting a chance to attack in between. 100% chance it was a bug, and I had to start the fight over. Wonder what kind of spaghetti code made that happened...
Kuja's own nihilism given flesh...
Or mine...if he was real i would be so happy! So i could end this universe!
@@supergobgoblin424 someone wants to be edgy and cool
@@Half-HeartHero i am the incarnation of darkness. I don't have time for love. Only for hate muhahaha
@@supergobgoblin424 😱
@@supergobgoblin424 what did you do with Big Chungus? We know you're the sus impostor
2:56 - 3:07 my favorite part of this theme. It makes it feel like a desperate fight (it is)
Finished the game recently. I knew about this boss but not what it did. Grand cross sucked, but what I DIDN'T KNOW is that neutron ring cancels Phoenix down revives. Zidane, Garnet, and Vivi are all down, all that's left is Freya. I have no idea how much hp is left and mp is down. He spams blue crosslash (the down to 1 hp move) and after 1 more swing, the fight was over. Most tense moment in an FF game for me
He probably applied zombie with his neutron ring. You got some horrendous rng. Although, I got grand crossed, which ko'd 2 of my members, then he used neutron ring on the other 2, which applied stop to one and berserk to the remaining one.
Necron is the ultimate consequence of the world Crystal's destruction.
"Necron" as a name was made up by the translators. In Japanese, his name is Darkness of Eternity.
🤯
wasn't that final fantasy 3 boss name?
I know people get on Necron's case for quoting Star Wars but, it doesn't mean that it isn't true. Both Final Fantasy and Star Wars literally draw from Eastern philosophies most specifically Buddhism with IX borrowing from Western philosophies like Existentialism and Nihilism. Also, out of all the abstract bosses in the series, えいえんのやみ or Eternal Darkness or Necron is the objectively speaking the best due to it being present from the start just without a physical presence. With Memoria's rules about memories being made manifest, it made sense for it to show up after Kuja's defeat. Haters just looked at it on a surface level, barely put any thought into the nuance of this game and wrote it off as a generic JRPG cosmic horror. Anyway, my point is the entire set up and encounter with Necron is 99% perfect! Even its design with its face reminiscent of the Rorshach test, to its entire body being in the shape of the OG Crystal that spawned life and the universe as a whole and of course this track! Omg, this track! The sense of despair at the intro to the struggles for life reaching that awesome crescendo makes this fight one of the very best in the game if not the genre. ❤❤
You make me think of how the physical manifestations of eidolons is dependent o people thinking of them. And that perhaps Necron is simply an eidolon manifested from their fear of death and nothingness.
Not to mention Star Wars references in Final Fantasy are fairly common. Most notably Biggs and Wedge.
Garland also literally tells you that you only killed the physical form of the Iifa Tree and that there is a spiritual side that filters the souls from Gaia to Terra... People claiming Necron "came out of nowhere" were not paying attention to the story.
FF 9 came out before star wars AOTC
The final boss had not to be Kuja, the man in darkside, but darkness itself.
I am amazed this is still getting comments.
As long as the will to listen to the Necron theme continues, you will receive comments. He is eternal
It's just that good of a theme.
I hear a bit of Neo Exdeath's theme in this.
Quite fitting, considering that FFIX was pretty much a love letter to the pre-VII Final Fantasy games, and they both existed solely to reduce all creation to nothingness before disappearing themselves.
1:38 is what your talking about
One of the best boss themes ever
kujas one was, this one is mid
though i cant help but be reminded of queen every time it starts with we will rock you
@@AzurezeroArt The intro to Kuja's theme is good, the rest is too upbeat. This is a far more fitting final boss theme that represents the inevitability of death and the desperate struggle on the part of the characters to stop Necron.
Owner of the mandatory "I mess with the planets" super move.
Except it's mostly nullified by equiping all of the skills that protect you against status ailments.
Except when it randomly hits the death status effect.
@@CKarasu13 Hence the word "mostly"
There are status ailments you can't nullify
@@dev1lm4n63 Keyword "mostly"... Again
The other way is just having Freya jump lmao.
Thx to you man, I can do my homework without sleep listening this great battle theme hahaha
I find it funny how anyone that has ever played ff9 bitch about necron being the final boss but with a little common sense they could see why hes the final boss of 9
Right. I thought it fit perfectly seeing that it would be impossible to actually kill Kuja. It makes sense.
i haven't gotten to it yet i' sure it is fine if any thing it may more be that kuja isn't the final boss when he was a good villein up to that point.
Originally, Hades was going to be the final boss.
@@PerpetualTman94 impossible to kill Kuja? 😂
@@wardensurana8336 We never defeat Kuja
Failed to steal anything.
I’m starting to notice every game that has a character with a skill called grand cross is a masterpiece. First Persona 2 now FF9, both absolutely peak games.
FF5 and I think FF Tactics too, based on FF14.
Rondo of Blood too before Persona 2
Persona 2 fan huge W
funny that Necron, the character that uses grand cross, is arguably the worst part of ff9 lol.
dude just came out of nowhere without any foreshadowing.
to be fair this is not the first ff games to use the "final boss comes out of nowhere" trope. Cloud of Darkness in ff3, Zeromus from ff4, and Neo-exdeath in ff5 (kinda, still same character technically).
@@jewii3824 hes a metaphor. İf you searcing for a real bs look for persona 4 final boss.
Not only unfair (3 actions per turn in the final battle), but Necron is also a very strange and misterious enemy, no doubt.
Not really he’s the embodiment of death lol
Necron was easier than Kuja for me. Less bullshit attacks
@@imaresifreak necron does love to spam grand cross though lol.
Just finished another playthrough yesterday and he wouldn’t stop using it constantly!
@@recklesflam1ngo968 need all ribbons for the party lol
@@imaresifreak Yeah it had beena few years since I had properly played through FF9 so I forgot lol.
Totally worth it just to cry at the ending cutscenes again though lmao
This boss is so hard and painful.Whenever this boss casts grand cross its annoying then he spams that 1 spell that lowers your hp to 1 repeatedly he also has a attack that does like 2000 dmg to whole team. even the first time i played this boss kicked my ass.
Meteion before meteion was meteion
Necron has four ATB gauges.
I have used similar methods in my games to give bosses the feeling of having speed so high you cannot compete, when in actuality, he’s just normal speed but can attack 3 times straight because he charges 3 gauges at once. You could theoretically slow individual atbs down to reduce their number of attacks. In MY game anyway. You can’t do that in this one
@@TShadowStalker Yeah, when I played FFIII I realized this is a common tactic to make bosses feel harder.
@@Bobby_Corwen So basically artificial difficulty?
@@KitsuneYojimbo You could say that, but in most games it's 4v1, so every turn you get to attack four times while the enemy would only have one. I think it balances out.
It was pretty annoying in FFIII though...
I always thought that he had various counter-abilities on top of maybe having double-cast. That would definitely make it seem like he has multiple ATB's.
That's what I'm told the OST version is called.
Y'know, I kind of wonder if he is a reference to Exdeath. There's already a precedence set for referencing classic FF antagonists with Garland being in the game. Necron has a similar enough color scheme to Exdeath, and both represent an ambiguous force, an incarnation of the void, with the goal of returning all of existence to nothingness. They both also resemble the figure of a man growing out of an abstract form, fused with an amalgam of other beings. Neo Exdeath has some similar themes in his music as well. Even just the names are both themed around death. Seems like a lot of coincidences.
Considering that Final Fantasy IX has a ton of references to previous titles strewn across the game, i believe you might be onto something here....
Not to mention that both Neo Exdeath and Necron both have Grand Cross in their movesets.
His face kinda looks like Rorschach's mask
+Kabamsoo Da Bomb His entire body as well. Symmetrical.
so epic
... I add "full of surprises" to the list. Fortunately his final attacks are not on the same turn.
such a banger
The best music 🤩🤩🤩
Necron is creepy but he reminds me of a crash dummy lol
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Is it me or this battle theme sounds like the theme of the final form of ExDeath?
Both share similar elements in their respective themes
May I say thank you?
Maledette urla inquietanti, sto boss è qualcosa di malato. Ma lo amo allo stesso tempo. Musica compresa.
When you think that you rebounded characters from last Grand Cross attack...
Extended the Prelude! :D
Say what you want about how this boss comes about, but it is the only final boss entering the battle I know I won't 100 percent win in the whole series, probably one of my favourite final fantasy boss fights
this reminds me of the time i went to a graveyard with my girlfriend and had to fight goku
Epic Battle fantasy?
i love this battle music ^^ ok it was an easy fight but the music is so nice ^^
the god of death
Goat boss theme.
I think Uematsu is a huge King Crimson and ELP fan.
this part is my fav, for some reason. 5:30
I tire of these games...
*GRAND CROSS!!*
Honestly kinda hoping we get a Necron fight in FF14
Same, seeing as they put in the final bosses (to some degree) of most of the other main FF games, they’re bound to put in Necron or Kuja at some point
They already put Ozma in, but they put FFXI's music for it. Don't know why.
We kind did though. The final Endwalker fight is basically Necron but with actual motivations. With that said, I do hope we -really- get Necron, because hearing Sokens take on this song would be... damn.
@@HYPERDISTORTED
Necron with actual motivation is still Necron.
2:35, the melody here is too good
I really hope necron shows up in ff 14 at some point as a raid or expansion final boss.
has ff14 had any ff9 references? I don't think so right?
@@jewii3824It's had a lot of smaller references, but never a full raid series or anything like that. But some things off the top of my head would be Gigi the little black mage automaton, two really good Ozma fights (and a mount), music used in some subtle ways (go listen to the Weeping City theme, it's the FF9 battle theme remixed), a Zidane outfit, the list goes on but it's all small things. I would love for it to get the kind of love 3-6 and 12 got in XIV.
@@keeria1304right, I completely forgot about those
Dawntrail has tons already it'll be ff9 focused for sure@@jewii3824
Eagerly waiting Soken's interpretation of this theme in FFXIV (whenever it happens) xD
1:51 This some Yu-Yu Hakusho Spirit Gun type shit.
1:53 2:20 love how the background melody is despondent and lugubrious...like if something extraordinary was about to begin or end...
WE MAKIN’ IT OUT ETERNAL DARKNESS WITH THIS ONE 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Imagine if this played at the end boss of Silent Hill 1 or 2. I think it would set the right mood.
Yeah, because it's quite easy to beat him with a handgun, instead of a monkey guy with dual blades, a princess summoner, a specialist mage, and a lancer.
@benfen97 You need permission to thank someone?
I understand why he is the final boss, but they really should have alluded to some sort of embodiment of death throughout the game. Or just made him an "it" that looks more like an artistic representation of death than some robot guy.
Kinda need to go into the side story for that. There's a side story where you find out daggers real name, and in that side story, it is stated that the summoners of madain sari believed that eidolons are given life based on legends
Most definitely. It makes a lot of thematic sense for the embodiment of death and nothingness to serve as the ultimate adversary for our party (and Kuja, for that matter) but giving it a voice and very humanoid design feels...off. It really feels like it needs to be more unfathomable and nebulous to sell the dire situation the characters are in; essentially facing complete entropy.
How exactly is that to be accomplished while still being visually appealing? I couldn't tell you.
He's always seemed like that artistic representation of death to me.
Blue skin like an oxygen-deprived corpse
Bizarre face full of holes
Giant halo- and wing-like structures implying he's some kind of angel of death
Sounds like jaws music kinda lol
I believe Necron is meant to be the polar opposite of the Iifa Tree.
@azal8521 Thanks.
FUCKING GRAND!!!!!!!!!!
The most recent comment (before this one) is a year old. DANG!
This comment is a year old. DANG!
@@Will-fg6hx heh, I was hoping this would happen when I made this comment.
0:06 Crraaaaa.... wling iiiiin my skiiiiin
Kuja should have just been the final boss.
But nope you gotta fight a god.
It's not a JRPG if we didn't, after all.
Symbolism
Grand cross você me paga
Squaresoft > Square Enix
Squaresoft = Enix > Square Enix
@@budakbaongsiah they did the fusion wrong like obese gotenks
1:19
this dude is just a mini version of cancerous ozma.
Maybe this could've passed on yt 11 years ago, but I don't think a video qualifies for the title super extended unless it's over 24 hrs nowadays lol
...did you not check the date of the video?
While I like this boss and the lore behind it gameplay-wise. I hated it story-wise. Just came out of nowhere. Like, Square couldn't come up with final form for Kuja, so they just decided to throw in some random god that was never mentioned before (at least, I don't recall it ever being mentioned or even hinted. Am about to play the game again for the first time since it first came out lol)
I mean, the whole game is about death and dealing with it, and they were in a place were memories and emotions become real, so I think it fits pretty well
Kuja was never supposed to be the final boss. It was originally Hades but they changed it and moved Hades to a secret boss.
I hate how Necron has a mouth but otherwise he’s cool though
I wish he was real. I would love the things he will do to all you living beings!
Ayo what the fu-
Settle down, Kuja
We would stop him.
You're a living being too my dude
I prefer to humans..
Humans are scum..
Very easy fight
if have chars gried, yep,
Good theme.
One of the few good things of this game, because not even the final boss was.
Lmao imagine having this opinion on what’s largely considered the best final fantasy game. 😂
@@LLG-ix8kd isn't that considered to be VI or VII?
@@pabloleon9884 IX is also highly regarded, just overlooked often.
@@pabloleon9884 IX is one of the most beloved entries in the franchise
I take IX over VI and VII. By far my most beloved experience. People overlooking IX mainly because of the chubby chars, or because they don't want to face zidane's depression.
I hate when the final boss is pulled out of the ass like that, no matter what it represents. That's one of the many reason i prefer FFVI and ffVII way better than this game.
Still, this Final Boss is thematically fitting. Look up in other comments, you'll see why.
it's a reference of final fantasy 4 final boss, and even that you could've imagined before seeing it. everyone was mental controlled
@@valentds It's not a reference. Just a reusing of the same trope. They thought it was cool apparently. Actually it's stupid. If they want to convey a message or express a narrative theme there are plenty of ways to do it without resorting to such bullshit.