Note that this comparison comes at a time when both models are getting a refresh in 2025. Tesla doesn't specifically do model years, but the "Juniper" update is expected in the second half of the year, changing looks and interior options. The 2025 IONIQ 5 is just starting to hit dealerships and features the new CCNC infotainment system, amongst other updates like a rear wiper and updated cabin setup. For more on the pre-2025 IONIQ 5 specifically, including more cabin footage, check out our first year owner review here: ua-cam.com/video/6xNQVQfIK4g/v-deo.htmlsi=Voasx70DT5Rp0DwD
Went from Bolt to Tesla and it was a transition smooth like butter. And yeah, no going back. The "buttons problem" is a manufactured one, because you have the ability to assign actions to the buttons on the steering wheel and that does it for all the so called "mission-critical" actions (glovebox, HVAC, radio/ApplePlay etc.). And for those who don't know, there is a button for cleaning the windshield, it is at the tip of the left stalk. Steve, you did a great job in your presentation ! I can't wait to see the next one.
Thanks for watching! Definitely appreciating all these thoughts on why various aspects are key differentiators vs. non-issues, depending on the buyer and what they've driven. Shows why it's important to have a wide variety of EV options across many different manufacturers. Need something for everyone to move adoption into mainstream.
Your close on Supercharger Network integration versus relying on public charging infrastructure got me thinking. As I've been seeing from reviewing my old Boltmas footage, the development in the charging infrastructure is happening quicker than many people realize. Most of us are buying/leasing an EV for at least 3 years, and the charging infrastructure we have today isn't what we'll have in a year, two years, or three years. Basically, I'm not sure it's even a consideration when choosing an EV anymore.
I think for anyone not followig it closely, infrastructure could look a little sparse in some regions, but we all know it's surging with what's under construction and the overlap of large existing networks opening up. The general consensus among IONIQ buyers seems to be that a native J3400 port will initially be less convenient than CCS1, as they'll have to use an adapter to get full power at the more ubiquitous likes of Electrify America and EVgo, while getting half power on the native port at Superchargers. As more dual handle sites like IONNA and ChargePoint's Omniports start appearing, that will even out and For the mainstream buyer, I totally agree. Unless it's CHAdeMO, there's no real need to consider port type as a defining decision maker. But they will need to go into adapter use with eyes open, given the complications of power delivery and not all Superchargers working with the new port.
I've done about 27k miles of EV roads trips in the past 26 months. The proliferation of chargers has been phenomenal. Now with the impending ability for nearly any car to use nearly any network, it's going to be even better although the Super Chargers will probably be last resorts for those of us with e-GMP cars. But no matter which port our cars have, it looks to me like road trips will require (or at least be greatly helped by) adapters for quite a few years. I much prefer the Ioniq 5's styling over the MY. I saw a video preview a couple years before Hyundai released it and decided right then that "I gotta get me one a them!" LOL! The V2L has kept my refrigerator and lights running twice in the 9 months I've had the car. And it's proven to be a spectacular road tripper. My only beef is giving up the 360 camera and ventilated seats our Bolt has in order to avoid having to suffer that glass roof.
My thinking here is that no-one with strong opinions about the CEO (in either direction) is cross shopping these models. The Tesla is either off their list entirely or the only name on it. Not for me to judge, either way.
If I were in the market today, I would probably choose the Tesla, specially the Model 3, just for the tech and software experience alone. I have been a fan of Hyundai and Kia and really appreciate how far they’ve come and how much they continue to iterate! But if I were someone who didn’t know a lot about cars or EV’s in general and watched this video, I have to say that the majority of b-roll footage was heavily skewed towards the Model Y. To be fair, the UI shown of the Ioniq 5 wasn’t current and has been updated for some time now. The interior cabin review of the Ioniq only showed the windshield and the HUD. At least there was footage of the Ioniq’s exterior and frunk 🤷♂️
All good points, thank you! I tend to focus on the less familiar car, as there are tens of dedicated IONIQ 5 videos on the channel here with that being the one we own. But as a standalone view, you're totally right that the viewer would benefit from equal balance of b-roll. Will push for that in the driving dynamics vid and subsequent comparisons, thanks👍
On the UI side, are you referring to the CCNC system that ships with the 2025 MY? If so, I think that goes to the "pre-refresh" aspect of this comparison. The 2025 IONIQ 5 has several new features that aren't present on the 2022-2024 model years (not least a rear wiper!), which includes the updated UI. With a Model Y refresh also looming this year, this comparison is essentially limited to the original Y (2020-2025) and those first three years of IONIQ 5.
Interesting to hear that from an owner, thanks. It's usually waved away with "set a custom button" or "just use voice commands" whenever I raise it as an aspect I dislike. Some things are easy, like the frunk or glove box open, but others just feel easier with a button or switch. The underlying Tesla UI is still my favorite by some distance, however.
@ Even needing the menu to set wiper speed is beyond dumb to me. But, the Tesla has been an easy car to drive. Looking forward to getting more miles on the Ioniq 5 which is brand new to me.
Good point, wiper adjustment another that is just easier to have next to the steering wheel. Congrats on the new Ioniq 5. Putting those miles on will be a pleasure, if my first few years with the car are anything to go by ⚡
That one's in the driving comparison but thanks for previewing 👍 IONIQ 5 is more floaty than I would ideally like but completely agree on which one wins out overall.
I test drove one of the first Ioniq 5’s in FL when they first arrived a few years ago. Like Steve, I really like the retro, future look. The ride of that car was great, considering the weight of the battery they needed to overcome - Hyundai did a good job there. The Tesla, not as good as far as a cushy ride, but ok with the base tire/wheel these days. If you bump the Tesla up to the 20 or 21 inch wheel, the ride suffers, unless you like a stiff riding chassis.
good job, I like the door grab handles better in the MY, easier to reach and close. On the other hand the assist handles over the doors are useful for elderly and disabled, they are non-existent on the MY.
Useful point that I didn't cover, thanks. I don't find the Tesla handles inconvenient but I know they can pose certain accessibility issues for some. On the flip side, the IONIQ 5 handles aren't especially ergonomic and on the driver side, they make it awkward to use the physical key. A rarity granted, but still a minor annoyance as the key is already pretty small and fiddly.
For me.. the Ioniq 5 top features... - The look (unique pixel look is fantastic) - V2L is great (as power backup for your home or on the road) - Charging (it is a beast) - Blind spot camera on the dash and shade build-in for the glass roof (limited trim) Top Tesla features... - Software - all of it - but especially trip planning, dash cam and sentry mode. - Storage - huge frunk, trunk and under floor storage - Lots of 3rd party accessoriness - S3xy Buttons/Knob and all kinds of other cool stuff (if you want a instrument cluster). - Phone access (phone as a key and a fantastic full featured app) Only bad thing for both is the $ in top trim (not everyone can afford these), but will be a great option when these hit the used market in large numbers.
Complicated choice for me. If the H5 were the Disney Edition. No question. I’d go that way. The exterior styling of the ModY just doesn’t sit well with me. Never has. For that alone I lean towards the H5, but the two in their 25 Model yr are really close. Same with the H6 & Mod3. Good video. Helpful for many
That's the frustrating thing, we're so close to two completely new versions! But I think a lot will be shopping deals on existing 2024 IONIQ 5 inventory in the next month or two and the Juniper Y isn't expected until Q3 this year, so the comparison should be useful for many buyers until then. Do you like the look of the refreshed Y? I was really glad they didn't just do a larger Highland refresh, as I think it adds some visual diversity between the 3 and Y that was lacking before. I appear to be in a minority, though.
@ My big issue with the exterior aesthetic of the ModY for me is when I see people driving round in them, they have like two feet of head room in the front seat and the suppository / capsule shape is something that came from an drag coefficient engineer who was left alone and their design was not given any stylistic aesthetic at all leaving everything to pragmatic (function over form). This has not changed in the 25 ModYr.
Thanks Steve. This is very helpful and great. Thank you!!! We have been Toyota Hybrid people for some time and feel the infrastructure is their now to go EV in 2027. Seems far away but not really. The larger size and storage of the Y, plus the Tesla charging network are big wins. I also like the utility design. Negative is Elon. Example firing the charging team. Then rehiring them. That's just scary 😨 😳. By 2027 we are hoping the standard charging port and even more charging options and battery tech will be available. A big concern for us is Ground clearance. It's why we went from a Prius to a Rav4. We are older and do alot of road trips. When touring we get in/out of the car alot. It can feel like your climbing out of a car. After awhile it gets old. With higher ground clearance you just swing your knees and stand. Thanks again for all you do. It's very much appreciated!!!
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, Bill. I didn't think much about ingress/egress in this one. I assume they both just have a nice high seating position that works for most drivers, but I'll revisit for the driving video later this month and see what our older family members think. Thanks for that.
Model Y for efficiency and packaging. Ioniq 5 for fantastic styling and charging. I haven't used the Ioniq 5 software, but it does look pretty rough. However the Hyundai still supports Carplay and AA which are big bonuses which I actually prefer over the walled garden built in stuff. I have a Model 3 currently and the nav software for Tesla specific charging is good and getting better, but still does not support other charging networks. Preconditioning options need to improve across the board with options to manually precondition and lift stupid limits based on SOC unless you are about to be left on the road dead. Looks to me like the refreshed Y isn't doing it any favors in the looks department, but it sounds like they are fixing some of the much needed and asked for stuff. It sounds like Hyundai is satisfied with where they are with eGMP and will probably be leveling up with the next generation vehicles. No doubts about it the Ioniq 5 is the looker in this comparison.
I quite like the look of the new Y but I appear to be in a minority. Comparisons to Kona Electric but, then, I like that model too. Android Auto covers some of the cracks in the native infotainment but there are features that drag one back to the core system, such as driving alerts and, as you mentioned, the need to precondition the battery en route to charging. It does have some useful features, such as identifying local charging stations, showing range variations, and upcoming rest areas, but the overall experience is average. I do expect the latest system to modernize the look and feel, but not convinced Hyundai Group has the software chops yet to keep it improving at Tesla/Rivian speed. That said, the cabin comforts and flexibility of the IONIQ 5 with features like V2L and ventilated seats definitely win out for me, in addition to the looks and overall ride quality.
yep leave the CEO of Tesla out of it. For me Ioniq always wins because of buttons !! I appreciate the Tesla software is great and works but I also think no car should be produced that is screen only and distracting. Plus no HUD !
I read that for a second as "Pls no HUD!" and couldn't figure out why, as we love that feature... glad I re-read and you're actually putting it in the positive column!
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The Hyundai software is flat out clunky. The software support Tesla offers is like non other, the supercharging network is like non other, the battery management and efficiency is amazing. I personally love the minimalistic feel and look of the car, it’s clean and modern. Hopefully Hyundai cleans up their software in the coming years. In saying that… Tesla used to be light years ahead on some of it’s competition, now maybe a year or two. The gap is definitely closing. I don’t think Tesla hit a home run with their refresh model. We just got our Model Y back in December, knowing the refresh was around the corner. Glad we didn’t wait because there isn’t a significant leap imo. Solid state batteries have to be the next thing Tesla integrates into their vehicles. The next EV company who does is going to pull ahead big time
Agreed. It looked old when we first started using it in 2022, so obviously 2025 it's overdue a refresh. The newest UI shipping with this model year is supposed to be cleaner and more responsive, but it seems unlikely to hit Tesla's level. Android Auto/Apple Carplay do address some of the gap, though. Superchargers are beginning to show their age and limitations, for me. Coverage and stall count certainly beat competitors, but as a public charging option the voltage and cable limitations can make for a frustrating experience. Obviously when buying a Tesla model that isn't applicable, as they're optimized for that use case and seamlessly integrate with the in-car navigation. Thanks for the thoughts.
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I've actually started to notice the IONIQ 5 is increasingly commonplace around Greater Boston now. I think all the good lease deals last year convinced a bunch of new drivers last year. Less so on the Kia EV6, so that might be the way to go if a fresh look is important to the buyer.
The problem with 350 kW charging is when get to the charger there will be a Bolt on it, or someone charging to 100%, or maybe they're derated. But don't worry Tesla will start installing 500 kW charging this year. Good news for Hyundai.
This is a less common setup now. Most non-Supercharger sites going in or being upgraded have a uniform site maximum (350-400kW in many cases). A Bolt EV being plugged in then is actually a good thing, as it leaves more sitewide power on the table for distribution to models that can accept it. The days of choosing between 150kW and 350kW are pretty much behind us, with the exception of legacy Electrify America sites that haven't been upgraded yet. On the Tesla side, full 1000V V4 Superchargers only just went into permitting (Q4 2024), so it's unlikely we'll see any energized until the second half of the year. Even then, the vast majority of Superchargers will remain limited to 500V, making them a useful back up to other networks but not a good option for any 800V vehicle trying to road trip quickly.
@@plugandplayEV Yes, all true, but it's coming. A ways down the pike, I know. All will be fixed eventually. But I just watched a road trip where there was a Bolt on the only working EA 350 kW charger, and the Porsche Tacan had to use a 150. Then later there was a guy in a BZ4 going to a 100% on a 350 and all the other charging posts were full, or broken, and there was a line. Even if it is just EA, that's a significant part of the charging infrastructure. And going to 100% should be a no-no at a busy site. Tesla politely tries to tell you GTFO when you have enough charge to make the next charger. Such warnings intensify if get over to 80% battery on a busy Supercharger site. For now, I'll just keep my Model Y and happily use the 255 kW Supercharger infrastructure. My charges are usually only 10-25 minutes anyway, and that's just enough time for a bathroom break, to get a snack, and walk the dog. So civilized.
Great video, the software functionality and space utility were big reasons we went with (and continue to really enjoy our Y). We have 3 dogs (2 that are 100+ and one ~20 pounds) and I even did a week long, 1000 mile road trip with two of my best friends. With all of our luggage and even a couple nights of camping gear it all fit under the security shelf or frunk with ease. Making for a comfortable and spacious road tripper. Wild that in only 2.5 years we've already put 67,000+ miles on it. I think you can't go wrong with either of these options! Definitely excited to see the highland features come to the new Y. Was really hoping see some of the other tech from the CT make it to the new Y: 1) Powershare functionality, 2) 800V pack (mostly for charging and other efficiency gains). However, those are thing more important to EV nerds like us, the things like NVH, better interior materials and standard features will definitely make it a compelling buy for people, especially those that are new to EVs.
I owned a Kia Optima PHEV before I leased a Model3 and I REALLY wanted an ioniq5 in 2023 when my Model3 lease was up but, other than looks and charging curve, I just couldn't find a single reason to justify either the Ioniq5 or EV6. Less space, less range, less performance, terrible (and I mean TERRIBLE) software experience, and higher price feature for feature. If Hyundai/Kia can fix their software, the addition of the NACS port could push me over the edge in a few years, but until the route planning and generable usability improve, Hyundai/Kia are non-starters. Yes, it's that bad.
I think for many owners, Android Auto/Carplay papers over the cracks of the software. But yes, I can see why coming from the Tesla ecosystem a buyer would think WTH is this?! Charging performance pretty much kills the range differential, in my experience, though obviously adds expense. Performance doesn't seem significantly different to me, taken across comparable models ( I5N to MYP, AWD to dual motor, etc). And if ride quality is a facet of performance, I'd say Hyundai/Kia win out there as well. Thanks for the perspective 👍
Thanks, Steve! I definitely see the allure of the Model Y, but the lack of physical buttons for mission-critical functions is a deal breaker for me. Also, I'd personally prefer having discrete On/Off button, and unfortunately, many automakers are following the phone/FOB automatic start trend.
I don't need the on/off button, personally, but I have no problem with a fob for activation and commands. I did really enjoy the easy in/out activation start/stop of the ID.4 in a similar vein to using the Y, though, so something better than the IONIQ 5's tedious start up process would be nice. Again, mostly down to slow software with a limited UI.
Why do you prefer an on off button? And if you are referring to the glovebox as "mission critical", how often are you digging in the glovebox? Aside from that, it literally takes 2 seconds to tap the glovebox button.
@@Charlesbjtown It's a safety and accountability thing. Literally every power tool and piece of heavy equipment you can buy has an on/off and or kill switch. Safety always should take precedence over convenience. A child shouldn't be a gear stalk away from putting a 600 hp vehicle through a building. As for mission critical, I'm thinking of everything from wiper blades, to headlights, to HVAC controls. Physical buttons remove the need to even look at those controls while driving.
@newscoulomb3705 Not meaning to be argumentative, but the kid angle gets old. And please provide cases of kids putting cars into buildings because of "phone as a key". Please don't try to use "safety" as a cover for being stuck in your ways/ old fashioned. Not a bash session, as I liked your bolt videos, and see you as an OG with high mileage bolt content. But you're way in the past right now, catch up.
@@Charlesbjtown No, I get it. Not many people have worked with dangerous tools or equipment before. As for kids driving cars into buildings, yes, that's a bit of a hyperbole; however, there have been plenty of examples of people driving their EVs (from a couple of specific manufacturers, neither of which include On/Off switches) into buildings, charging stations, ponds, etc. Sure, we could blame that on simple carelessness or even intoxication, but that's exactly why dangerous equipment has redundant safeties in place.
The peak is great in itself... just way too short-lived! I went to do a test on the old Model 3 years ago when V3 was relatively new. Pulled in with 22% thinking that should be plenty low, then just hung out in the mid-100s wondering if the Supercharger was having problems. It's a real bummer for regular drivers who don't want to push the limits of low SOC, as they're effectively punished with slower charging sessions just for playing it safe.
Note that this comparison comes at a time when both models are getting a refresh in 2025. Tesla doesn't specifically do model years, but the "Juniper" update is expected in the second half of the year, changing looks and interior options. The 2025 IONIQ 5 is just starting to hit dealerships and features the new CCNC infotainment system, amongst other updates like a rear wiper and updated cabin setup.
For more on the pre-2025 IONIQ 5 specifically, including more cabin footage, check out our first year owner review here: ua-cam.com/video/6xNQVQfIK4g/v-deo.htmlsi=Voasx70DT5Rp0DwD
Went from Bolt to Tesla and it was a transition smooth like butter. And yeah, no going back. The "buttons problem" is a manufactured one, because you have the ability to assign actions to the buttons on the steering wheel and that does it for all the so called "mission-critical" actions (glovebox, HVAC, radio/ApplePlay etc.). And for those who don't know, there is a button for cleaning the windshield, it is at the tip of the left stalk.
Steve, you did a great job in your presentation ! I can't wait to see the next one.
Thanks for watching! Definitely appreciating all these thoughts on why various aspects are key differentiators vs. non-issues, depending on the buyer and what they've driven. Shows why it's important to have a wide variety of EV options across many different manufacturers. Need something for everyone to move adoption into mainstream.
Thanks Steve, a well done review and contrast of these popular evs.
Thanks, Tom 👍
Your close on Supercharger Network integration versus relying on public charging infrastructure got me thinking. As I've been seeing from reviewing my old Boltmas footage, the development in the charging infrastructure is happening quicker than many people realize. Most of us are buying/leasing an EV for at least 3 years, and the charging infrastructure we have today isn't what we'll have in a year, two years, or three years. Basically, I'm not sure it's even a consideration when choosing an EV anymore.
I think for anyone not followig it closely, infrastructure could look a little sparse in some regions, but we all know it's surging with what's under construction and the overlap of large existing networks opening up.
The general consensus among IONIQ buyers seems to be that a native J3400 port will initially be less convenient than CCS1, as they'll have to use an adapter to get full power at the more ubiquitous likes of Electrify America and EVgo, while getting half power on the native port at Superchargers. As more dual handle sites like IONNA and ChargePoint's Omniports start appearing, that will even out and
For the mainstream buyer, I totally agree. Unless it's CHAdeMO, there's no real need to consider port type as a defining decision maker. But they will need to go into adapter use with eyes open, given the complications of power delivery and not all Superchargers working with the new port.
I've done about 27k miles of EV roads trips in the past 26 months. The proliferation of chargers has been phenomenal. Now with the impending ability for nearly any car to use nearly any network, it's going to be even better although the Super Chargers will probably be last resorts for those of us with e-GMP cars.
But no matter which port our cars have, it looks to me like road trips will require (or at least be greatly helped by) adapters for quite a few years.
I much prefer the Ioniq 5's styling over the MY. I saw a video preview a couple years before Hyundai released it and decided right then that "I gotta get me one a them!" LOL! The V2L has kept my refrigerator and lights running twice in the 9 months I've had the car. And it's proven to be a spectacular road tripper. My only beef is giving up the 360 camera and ventilated seats our Bolt has in order to avoid having to suffer that glass roof.
Two four-letter words sums up the difference which is most important for me and many other people - Elon Musk...
My thinking here is that no-one with strong opinions about the CEO (in either direction) is cross shopping these models. The Tesla is either off their list entirely or the only name on it. Not for me to judge, either way.
Great comparison, Steve! From a pure functionality standpoint, I prefer the model Y. Especially after the refresh.
Thanks Steve, glad I'm not alone in liking the Y's refreshed look!
I’ll never go back to a car without phone as a key. Had it for the first time in the MachE and now own a model y.
IONIQ 5 does have phone as a digital key. They still have some software improvements to make, though. Not as good as the Tesla experience.
If I were in the market today, I would probably choose the Tesla, specially the Model 3, just for the tech and software experience alone. I have been a fan of Hyundai and Kia and really appreciate how far they’ve come and how much they continue to iterate!
But if I were someone who didn’t know a lot about cars or EV’s in general and watched this video, I have to say that the majority of b-roll footage was heavily skewed towards the Model Y.
To be fair, the UI shown of the Ioniq 5 wasn’t current and has been updated for some time now. The interior cabin review of the Ioniq only showed the windshield and the HUD. At least there was footage of the Ioniq’s exterior and frunk 🤷♂️
All good points, thank you! I tend to focus on the less familiar car, as there are tens of dedicated IONIQ 5 videos on the channel here with that being the one we own. But as a standalone view, you're totally right that the viewer would benefit from equal balance of b-roll. Will push for that in the driving dynamics vid and subsequent comparisons, thanks👍
On the UI side, are you referring to the CCNC system that ships with the 2025 MY? If so, I think that goes to the "pre-refresh" aspect of this comparison. The 2025 IONIQ 5 has several new features that aren't present on the 2022-2024 model years (not least a rear wiper!), which includes the updated UI. With a Model Y refresh also looming this year, this comparison is essentially limited to the original Y (2020-2025) and those first three years of IONIQ 5.
I’m sick of menu diving on our Tesla. Much preferring the Ioniq for this, ride, cabin noise and features.
Interesting to hear that from an owner, thanks. It's usually waved away with "set a custom button" or "just use voice commands" whenever I raise it as an aspect I dislike. Some things are easy, like the frunk or glove box open, but others just feel easier with a button or switch. The underlying Tesla UI is still my favorite by some distance, however.
@ Even needing the menu to set wiper speed is beyond dumb to me. But, the Tesla has been an easy car to drive. Looking forward to getting more miles on the Ioniq 5 which is brand new to me.
Good point, wiper adjustment another that is just easier to have next to the steering wheel.
Congrats on the new Ioniq 5. Putting those miles on will be a pleasure, if my first few years with the car are anything to go by ⚡
For me it's Hyundai for one main reason. Ride quality to me is atrocious in the Y. I'm honestly shocked how many people don't mind it.
That one's in the driving comparison but thanks for previewing 👍
IONIQ 5 is more floaty than I would ideally like but completely agree on which one wins out overall.
I test drove one of the first Ioniq 5’s in FL when they first arrived a few years ago. Like Steve, I really like the retro, future look. The ride of that car was great, considering the weight of the battery they needed to overcome - Hyundai did a good job there. The Tesla, not as good as far as a cushy ride, but ok with the base tire/wheel these days. If you bump the Tesla up to the 20 or 21 inch wheel, the ride suffers, unless you like a stiff riding chassis.
good job, I like the door grab handles better in the MY, easier to reach and close. On the other hand the assist handles over the doors are useful for elderly and disabled, they are non-existent on the MY.
Useful point that I didn't cover, thanks. I don't find the Tesla handles inconvenient but I know they can pose certain accessibility issues for some. On the flip side, the IONIQ 5 handles aren't especially ergonomic and on the driver side, they make it awkward to use the physical key. A rarity granted, but still a minor annoyance as the key is already pretty small and fiddly.
For me..
the Ioniq 5 top features...
- The look (unique pixel look is fantastic)
- V2L is great (as power backup for your home or on the road)
- Charging (it is a beast)
- Blind spot camera on the dash and shade build-in for the glass roof (limited trim)
Top Tesla features...
- Software - all of it - but especially trip planning, dash cam and sentry mode.
- Storage - huge frunk, trunk and under floor storage
- Lots of 3rd party accessoriness - S3xy Buttons/Knob and all kinds of other cool stuff (if you want a instrument cluster).
- Phone access (phone as a key and a fantastic full featured app)
Only bad thing for both is the $ in top trim (not everyone can afford these), but will be a great option when these hit the used market in large numbers.
Complicated choice for me. If the H5 were the Disney Edition. No question. I’d go that way. The exterior styling of the ModY just doesn’t sit well with me. Never has. For that alone I lean towards the H5, but the two in their 25 Model yr are really close. Same with the H6 & Mod3. Good video. Helpful for many
That's the frustrating thing, we're so close to two completely new versions! But I think a lot will be shopping deals on existing 2024 IONIQ 5 inventory in the next month or two and the Juniper Y isn't expected until Q3 this year, so the comparison should be useful for many buyers until then.
Do you like the look of the refreshed Y? I was really glad they didn't just do a larger Highland refresh, as I think it adds some visual diversity between the 3 and Y that was lacking before. I appear to be in a minority, though.
@ My big issue with the exterior aesthetic of the ModY for me is when I see people driving round in them, they have like two feet of head room in the front seat and the suppository / capsule shape is something that came from an drag coefficient engineer who was left alone and their design was not given any stylistic aesthetic at all leaving everything to pragmatic (function over form). This has not changed in the 25 ModYr.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel "suppository shaped" -- well, there's something I'm never going to unsee from now on... 😳
@ you’re welcome
Thanks Steve. This is very helpful and great. Thank you!!! We have been Toyota Hybrid people for some time and feel the infrastructure is their now to go EV in 2027. Seems far away but not really.
The larger size and storage of the Y, plus the Tesla charging network are big wins. I also like the utility design. Negative is Elon. Example firing the charging team. Then rehiring them. That's just scary 😨 😳.
By 2027 we are hoping the standard charging port and even more charging options and battery tech will be available.
A big concern for us is Ground clearance. It's why we went from a Prius to a Rav4. We are older and do alot of road trips. When touring we get in/out of the car alot. It can feel like your climbing out of a car. After awhile it gets old. With higher
ground clearance you just swing your knees and stand.
Thanks again for all you do. It's very much appreciated!!!
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, Bill. I didn't think much about ingress/egress in this one. I assume they both just have a nice high seating position that works for most drivers, but I'll revisit for the driving video later this month and see what our older family members think. Thanks for that.
Model Y for efficiency and packaging. Ioniq 5 for fantastic styling and charging. I haven't used the Ioniq 5 software, but it does look pretty rough. However the Hyundai still supports Carplay and AA which are big bonuses which I actually prefer over the walled garden built in stuff. I have a Model 3 currently and the nav software for Tesla specific charging is good and getting better, but still does not support other charging networks. Preconditioning options need to improve across the board with options to manually precondition and lift stupid limits based on SOC unless you are about to be left on the road dead. Looks to me like the refreshed Y isn't doing it any favors in the looks department, but it sounds like they are fixing some of the much needed and asked for stuff. It sounds like Hyundai is satisfied with where they are with eGMP and will probably be leveling up with the next generation vehicles. No doubts about it the Ioniq 5 is the looker in this comparison.
I quite like the look of the new Y but I appear to be in a minority. Comparisons to Kona Electric but, then, I like that model too.
Android Auto covers some of the cracks in the native infotainment but there are features that drag one back to the core system, such as driving alerts and, as you mentioned, the need to precondition the battery en route to charging. It does have some useful features, such as identifying local charging stations, showing range variations, and upcoming rest areas, but the overall experience is average. I do expect the latest system to modernize the look and feel, but not convinced Hyundai Group has the software chops yet to keep it improving at Tesla/Rivian speed.
That said, the cabin comforts and flexibility of the IONIQ 5 with features like V2L and ventilated seats definitely win out for me, in addition to the looks and overall ride quality.
yep leave the CEO of Tesla out of it. For me Ioniq always wins because of buttons !! I appreciate the Tesla software is great and works but I also think no car should be produced that is screen only and distracting. Plus no HUD !
I read that for a second as "Pls no HUD!" and couldn't figure out why, as we love that feature... glad I re-read and you're actually putting it in the positive column!
@ it is … my next EV will have an HUD and no idea why Tesla anti it at all
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The Hyundai software is flat out clunky. The software support Tesla offers is like non other, the supercharging network is like non other, the battery management and efficiency is amazing. I personally love the minimalistic feel and look of the car, it’s clean and modern. Hopefully Hyundai cleans up their software in the coming years. In saying that… Tesla used to be light years ahead on some of it’s competition, now maybe a year or two. The gap is definitely closing. I don’t think Tesla hit a home run with their refresh model. We just got our Model Y back in December, knowing the refresh was around the corner. Glad we didn’t wait because there isn’t a significant leap imo. Solid state batteries have to be the next thing Tesla integrates into their vehicles. The next EV company who does is going to pull ahead big time
Agreed. It looked old when we first started using it in 2022, so obviously 2025 it's overdue a refresh. The newest UI shipping with this model year is supposed to be cleaner and more responsive, but it seems unlikely to hit Tesla's level. Android Auto/Apple Carplay do address some of the gap, though.
Superchargers are beginning to show their age and limitations, for me. Coverage and stall count certainly beat competitors, but as a public charging option the voltage and cable limitations can make for a frustrating experience. Obviously when buying a Tesla model that isn't applicable, as they're optimized for that use case and seamlessly integrate with the in-car navigation.
Thanks for the thoughts.
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Everybody and their neighbor has a Bolt( I've a EUV),tesla MY or 3. For a more different style, I like the I 5.
I've actually started to notice the IONIQ 5 is increasingly commonplace around Greater Boston now. I think all the good lease deals last year convinced a bunch of new drivers last year. Less so on the Kia EV6, so that might be the way to go if a fresh look is important to the buyer.
I prefer the look of the Ioniq 5
The problem with 350 kW charging is when get to the charger there will be a Bolt on it, or someone charging to 100%, or maybe they're derated. But don't worry Tesla will start installing 500 kW charging this year. Good news for Hyundai.
This is a less common setup now. Most non-Supercharger sites going in or being upgraded have a uniform site maximum (350-400kW in many cases). A Bolt EV being plugged in then is actually a good thing, as it leaves more sitewide power on the table for distribution to models that can accept it. The days of choosing between 150kW and 350kW are pretty much behind us, with the exception of legacy Electrify America sites that haven't been upgraded yet.
On the Tesla side, full 1000V V4 Superchargers only just went into permitting (Q4 2024), so it's unlikely we'll see any energized until the second half of the year. Even then, the vast majority of Superchargers will remain limited to 500V, making them a useful back up to other networks but not a good option for any 800V vehicle trying to road trip quickly.
@@plugandplayEV Yes, all true, but it's coming. A ways down the pike, I know. All will be fixed eventually. But I just watched a road trip where there was a Bolt on the only working EA 350 kW charger, and the Porsche Tacan had to use a 150. Then later there was a guy in a BZ4 going to a 100% on a 350 and all the other charging posts were full, or broken, and there was a line. Even if it is just EA, that's a significant part of the charging infrastructure. And going to 100% should be a no-no at a busy site. Tesla politely tries to tell you GTFO when you have enough charge to make the next charger. Such warnings intensify if get over to 80% battery on a busy Supercharger site.
For now, I'll just keep my Model Y and happily use the 255 kW Supercharger infrastructure. My charges are usually only 10-25 minutes anyway, and that's just enough time for a bathroom break, to get a snack, and walk the dog. So civilized.
Great video, the software functionality and space utility were big reasons we went with (and continue to really enjoy our Y). We have 3 dogs (2 that are 100+ and one ~20 pounds) and I even did a week long, 1000 mile road trip with two of my best friends. With all of our luggage and even a couple nights of camping gear it all fit under the security shelf or frunk with ease. Making for a comfortable and spacious road tripper. Wild that in only 2.5 years we've already put 67,000+ miles on it. I think you can't go wrong with either of these options!
Definitely excited to see the highland features come to the new Y. Was really hoping see some of the other tech from the CT make it to the new Y: 1) Powershare functionality, 2) 800V pack (mostly for charging and other efficiency gains). However, those are thing more important to EV nerds like us, the things like NVH, better interior materials and standard features will definitely make it a compelling buy for people, especially those that are new to EVs.
Excellent additional insights from the owner side, thanks Chase!
I owned a Kia Optima PHEV before I leased a Model3 and I REALLY wanted an ioniq5 in 2023 when my Model3 lease was up but, other than looks and charging curve, I just couldn't find a single reason to justify either the Ioniq5 or EV6. Less space, less range, less performance, terrible (and I mean TERRIBLE) software experience, and higher price feature for feature. If Hyundai/Kia can fix their software, the addition of the NACS port could push me over the edge in a few years, but until the route planning and generable usability improve, Hyundai/Kia are non-starters. Yes, it's that bad.
I think for many owners, Android Auto/Carplay papers over the cracks of the software. But yes, I can see why coming from the Tesla ecosystem a buyer would think WTH is this?!
Charging performance pretty much kills the range differential, in my experience, though obviously adds expense.
Performance doesn't seem significantly different to me, taken across comparable models ( I5N to MYP, AWD to dual motor, etc). And if ride quality is a facet of performance, I'd say Hyundai/Kia win out there as well.
Thanks for the perspective 👍
@plugandplayEV good points
Thanks, Steve! I definitely see the allure of the Model Y, but the lack of physical buttons for mission-critical functions is a deal breaker for me. Also, I'd personally prefer having discrete On/Off button, and unfortunately, many automakers are following the phone/FOB automatic start trend.
I don't need the on/off button, personally, but I have no problem with a fob for activation and commands. I did really enjoy the easy in/out activation start/stop of the ID.4 in a similar vein to using the Y, though, so something better than the IONIQ 5's tedious start up process would be nice. Again, mostly down to slow software with a limited UI.
Why do you prefer an on off button? And if you are referring to the glovebox as "mission critical", how often are you digging in the glovebox? Aside from that, it literally takes 2 seconds to tap the glovebox button.
@@Charlesbjtown It's a safety and accountability thing. Literally every power tool and piece of heavy equipment you can buy has an on/off and or kill switch. Safety always should take precedence over convenience. A child shouldn't be a gear stalk away from putting a 600 hp vehicle through a building.
As for mission critical, I'm thinking of everything from wiper blades, to headlights, to HVAC controls. Physical buttons remove the need to even look at those controls while driving.
@newscoulomb3705 Not meaning to be argumentative, but the kid angle gets old. And please provide cases of kids putting cars into buildings because of "phone as a key". Please don't try to use "safety" as a cover for being stuck in your ways/ old fashioned. Not a bash session, as I liked your bolt videos, and see you as an OG with high mileage bolt content. But you're way in the past right now, catch up.
@@Charlesbjtown No, I get it. Not many people have worked with dangerous tools or equipment before. As for kids driving cars into buildings, yes, that's a bit of a hyperbole; however, there have been plenty of examples of people driving their EVs (from a couple of specific manufacturers, neither of which include On/Off switches) into buildings, charging stations, ponds, etc. Sure, we could blame that on simple carelessness or even intoxication, but that's exactly why dangerous equipment has redundant safeties in place.
The peak charging speed of tesla is just joke. It’s made at too low soc (20%) for very short period. Average speed is also bad
The peak is great in itself... just way too short-lived! I went to do a test on the old Model 3 years ago when V3 was relatively new. Pulled in with 22% thinking that should be plenty low, then just hung out in the mid-100s wondering if the Supercharger was having problems. It's a real bummer for regular drivers who don't want to push the limits of low SOC, as they're effectively punished with slower charging sessions just for playing it safe.