Didn't expect this to blow up unlike the old one lol, btw i'm thinking of changing the title into "Chara vs The Batter" after figuring out that Geno!Frisk before the Sans Fight is Chara
This actually feels the most realistic since batter has no way of destroying frisks/charas save file without the lever while chara can destroy his whenever they want
I like how from 3:24 to 3:33 they were both in the emptiness of their games, and how they saw each other next to their spawn point, which lead to their game plan when they respawned again: DESTROY the opponent's respawn point.
the crazy thing now that i think about it is that Frisk doesn't even need to return to their save point to continue the fight-they can just will themselves to return back at the beginning of the battle (or phase in the case of the Asriel Dreemurr fight if i remember correctly) it was an unfair battle for the Batter from start to finish-even if he had the chance to purify Chara, that would never happen as Chara doesn't need a button or switch to destroy the whole world and they have been able to resist the influence of the player
If you're talking about the "refused death" ability that Frisk has, then that only works on the pacifist ending. Since Frisk's determination varies in the different endings, to put in short Pacifist Frisk DT>>>Genocide Frisk DT>>>Neutral Frisk DT.
@@NewVision_true actually i am talking about Frisk.. literally returning to the beginning of the fight when defeated-if you get a gameover you can choose to just continue/retry and jump right to the boss fight instead of returning to the save point; regardless of the route
I like how this has a the feel of a actual death battle episode! It feels as if I’m watching an official one! I also love the glitch effect you used for both of them!
Finally someone who actually did a Research on Frisk other than relying on In-game stats Just because Batter deals "More Damage" doesn't mean that's stronger than Frisk, that's just like Relying on Cross Scaling + Game Mechanics Also Batter has no way to counter Frisk/Chara's Determination (you mean Purification? Yeah that one is Existence Erasure, which is Resisted by Frisk)
When you take the explanations for both of the series', you can easily determine that the two are even actually. Determination is a plain metaphor for the feeling of "I'm going to defeat you" that the player feels when fighting a difficult enemy. Batter's "purification" is not erasure it is the destruction of child-like wonder. OFF is determined based off of whatever you believe it to be, and The Batter is (at face value) an unstoppable force of destruction. Chara doesn't solo, Chara may be some nine tails fox/Sukuna -but Chara is just the representation of the Player. Batter (when being played as) is as strong as he needs to be to defeat his opponent, he is change incarnate. Frisk is the lengths a player would go to defeat their enemy. Frisk may be determined, but The Batter is inevitable.
@@SuperMario-hy3sm People completely rely on Game Mechanics crap as a reason for Batter to beat Chara and Frisk "Batter's Weapons Deals a Hundred Damage while Chara's only deals 99" "Batter has more HP than Frisk and Chara" "Batter's Purification can Overcome Determination" First of all, Game Mechanics don't count, by this logic then even Toriel solos OFF because anyone in OFF have extremely low Chance of avoiding an Attack meanwhile Toriel can keep up throwing fireballs Second Purification is Existence Erasure which is easily resisted by Frisk and Chara Third Feats are Important, let's get to the point, Chara's Best Feat is destroying the entire Game with several Timelibes/Keeping up with Asriel and capable of moving after the Timelines are Destroyed (Multiverse+ and Immeasurable) Meanwhile Batter's Best Feat is defeating The Queen who destroyed 3 Suns with Infinite Energy, Flew at the Sun for a second, and Moving outside Space (High Universal and MFTL+ to possibly Infinite/Inaccessible) So overall, Frisk/Chara Clears You might say it was Frisk who fought Asriel? Well, Chara is still with Frisk in Soulless Pacifist route, which they tookover in the end
I think this whole ass fight would depend entirely on who the player is playing as, since the player is an entity in both games, they would have an impact in the fight, unless it just becomes a vs game, on who can beat who first
I just combined Frisk from Genocide to Soulless Pacifist (a Pacifist Route where Chara takes over in the end) and gave The Player to Batter (which resulted him being able to revive himself)
Beautiful animation to two of the best RPGs ever created! The cult of cult OFF and the little indie that became a hit Undertale. This also shows off why Chara is one of the scariest video game villains: they never quit. They just regenerate and keep trying until 'they beat the game'. Le Batteur didn't have a chance despite having the same system. It was always a contest of Determination.
I mean is she really if you were a boss would you find her very scary i just dont know because you beat her ass In hundreds of timelines it’s like dark souls but easier I swear I’ll roll but still get hit
Batter didn't use his abilities, Chara don't like Frisk to help, but it would only change how much time it would take and Batter wouldn't notice the time changing.
I lean on Genocide Frisk taking the W here since we know he's atleast bare minimum at his peak he got to be about strong enough to destroy the entire universe/game they were in with their physical strength by the end while the Batter turns off a switch which wipes out an entire universe but that in no way means batter can just bust the entire universe like that , if he could he would've already done so
@@sukong1232 the text in the mirror recognizes Frisk as Chara by "Hey it's me Chara" in the Genocide Run And this one doesn't happen in any other routes if the Player does not collaborate with them in their guidance, Chara will still take full control of Frisk at the end of a True Pacifist completed after a Genocide run Even Flowey instantly recognizes them as Chara despite having a different appearance and other big changes in personality than Frisk's that other monsters notice And that Soulless Pacifist Too more away from identifying the human as 'You' and more with first-person pronouns, which in return refer to the First Human ('It's me, Chara'). For example, in all of New Home, it is implied that they've taken over the little overworld actions Frisk does in Neutral and Pacifist ('I unlocked the chain'). However, when it comes to battles, they generally defer to us until we reach LV 20 ('You feel like you're going to have a bad time' in Sans' fight, and we are directly in control there, but just after with Asgore and Flowey we don't even get a choice) So it's pretty much Chara is using Frisk's Body Also the whole Genocide Frisk was Chara all along, who later on took over Frisk
While it is a crazy fight I do think frisk would lose. Chara is another animal a step above what the rest of undertale brings to the table. Good fight though batter! You did good!
There really is and never will be a way The Batter can win From the very beginning of his game, it is made very clear that he is but a puppet. He was never in control of himself from the moment his life began
Batter's Best Wincon is purifying Frisk's Soul but the issue is Frisk has resistence to Existence Erasure, and Batter's Purification is more likely like one so yeah, and Batter gets speedblitzed everytime he tries to
@@ThatNiko. Most notably, There are cases where Batter is Faster, and, arguably, stronger then Frisk, being able to travel to The Nothingness at will and taking considerably more damage then frisk ever could in a single sitting, not to mention how much more options of he has to fight with status effects from both himself and his Add-ons. But that also becomes a downside, While Batter is more then able to take hits, he rarely can ever avoid them as appose to Frisk, who is capable to avoiding just about anything if learned enough, something Batter is incapable of doing. But because Undertale is all about timelines and having a choice, OFF only has one straight and narrow path, where no matter the choice, it is all your fault and out of your control. There really is only one things matters in a fight like this control something Frisk always had and Batter can only dream of having
@@handesonrenatoguimaraes2615 Wouldn't say Manipulated but the game's overall moral objective is very vague and unclear from the start, it's more or less a realization from the player then Batter manipulating
A lot of people forgotten that Chara has deleted the entire world and can always bought back anytime they like. Since this is a genocide run, it is possible that Frisk has already sold their soul to Chara, so basically Chara can take control if the situation is necessary In this case Chara deleted Batter from the game file, so Batter wouldn't be able to respawn. The Batter can also shut down the world too, but it would require him to be in the level room, so it would be really niche.
@nosu5530 I'm thinking that was The Player, cause the Mirror in Genocide Route actually refers Frisk as Chara and taking over Frisk's Body in the end of Soulless Pacifist
Let's just say those are his *Zips* rather than ribs then i was almost falling asleep at the first day when finding a sprite for Sans so i used that instead to make the whole corridor scene
Let's just assume these are just wrinkle or fold in the clothing material Hang on a min, in Temmie Chang's Official Art Sans actually has his ribs under his hoodie
Seeing how meta both games are, Batter is more likely to win as the combat is much easier (literally just mashing Z till the adversary stops existing), and given how he has all the onion rings, it'd just be pretty similar to those shitty "tested" 2020 sans fight fan games in terms of the sheer amount of spam against enemies who can heal whenever and dodge every once in a while. I'm not saying a really good Undertale player couldn't win, but after dealing with the OFF player loading a few times and having to die YET ANOTHER several dozen more times to shittiest of fannon spam "patterns" is gonna cause most people to outright uninstall the game. IE, the vast majority of unfortunate UT players who load into this "cursed" version of the game. After all, Batter only has the halos when "god" sides with him. Also, as the Batter and OFF players are pretty determined beat the game, there's a good chance the Save system in Undertale would stop working, as it did for Flowey, so in this scenario, at best, it's a oneshot fight to the death heavily leaning towards "the ducky." Worst case, you see the assholes from OFF save in front of you. Granted, this is for the Genocide/High LV neutrals, for a pacifist/low lv neutral, I'd have to give it to the UT player/Frisk as you could probably just talk your way out of the Batter fight who's "holy mission" in this cross over would likely be freeing monsterkind from the Underground(the game is advertised as a pasifistic rpg)by leading them to the six souls and then waiting 40 minutes irl for him to break the barrier with a giant bat. Said pacifist route would aslo probably be similar to Deltarune chapter 1, in which you have to warn most enemies about the Batters/Funyuns rings as he would 100% view the monster's "expressions" as interference with his holy mission. Still, while harder to do a pacifist run in this scenario, it'd be far more entertaining, especially if playing with a friend.
In Soulless Pacifist (a Pacifist Route where Chara tookover) they had that, so i decided to combine both Geno and Soulless Pacifist to make it more fun
Correct if im wrong but i feel this is a sonic.exe situation with fighting frisk/chara especially since the batter is fighting in the undertale game a game were he's nether from nor familiar with heck ot couuls probably go the other way id this fight took place in the batters game
@@minervamariatavarez5495 Dawg that wouldn't do anything to frisk and chara, also coming back to life? Nice try Frisk/Chara can too, also it is confirmed that Saving and LOADING are a part of the Undertale Lore, also Batter's Purification is most likely an Existence Erasure which is easily resisted by Frisk and Chara, The existence of someone with a higher amount of Determination (as it exists in Undertale) would result in the inability of beings with lesser amounts of it[3] from using their power to SAVE and LOAD, due to the control over the timeline being inherited to only the one with the highest amount of Determination, and Batter isn't a Part of Undertale nor has the Soul of Determination so there's no way he's putting Frisk down "Purification can defeat Frisk for good" First of all, "Purification" is just existence Erasure, it shows that it erases the enemy everytume they get purified, and as well corruption which only corrupts the area, not the enemy, Frisk resisted Existence Erasure, they were able to tank Asriel's Hypergoner which erased the entire timeline itself so they'll have no trouble Dealing with Purification Second "This is Frisk, Not Chara" Are we just gonna be using Genocide Frisk? If yes then that could be mean using Chara too, The Mirror in Genocide says "Hey, it's me, Chara!" Which doesn't happen in other routes, As well the Soulless Pacifist Route, Where you chose to stay with Toriel Chara takes over Frisk at their Sleep, also if Genocide Frisk is not Chara then how come Chara mentions the name you give them? "Greetings. I am Chara" and as well the Mirror "Hey it's me Chara" Third "Batter has more HP than Frisk and Chara" that sh is just Game Mechanics, by this logic Terraria Guy solos Elder Scrolls because his weapons Deal more Damage than Dragonborn Fourth "Batter could use Frisk as an EXP Punching Bag" which will never happen, Now as for speed, once again, all comes from omega flowey, scaling to a being is that is through an infinite amount of timelines is immeasurable speed, as you're fighting a being, throughout linear timelines. Meaning frisk, sans, GOH azzy, OF, and chara all have 2-A status(sans with dura neg), and immeasurable speed (OF with omnipresence). Gaster also probably belongs here but i need to refresh my memory on how the void works, and if gaster is relative to the void or any of the 5 listed. Which means Frisk/Chara has Immeasurable Speed Even without Pacifist Scaling Chara still has Immeasurable in the end of Genocide,Chara Harnessed incredible amounts of Determination, giving them the power to destroy Undertale as a game entirely and was able to exist on nothingness aka no space-time and even if you were to argue that Chara only destroyed space, like i said space and time are interwined so if there's no space on where Frisk and Chara was, then there was no time as well like "there is nothing left for us in here" which means Chara is still Immeasurable in the end of Genocide Let me get to the scale Let me put a downplayed/lowballed scale because why not This is the fun value, where it basically talks about the different events of each timeline you can go through with Frisk's save point. This alone would make the cosmo multiversal. 100x100 tiles, each tile is a timeline,so basically this gives us 10000 timelines, which is way above 1001 timelines, and past 1001 timelines is multiversal. So this makes the cosmology multiversal. Now, people like to downplay this even more by saying it is just low multiversal, the argument goes as: "It's actually 10x100 and not 100x100, because on the left, you can see that there are skipped over tens. This gives us only 1000 timelines, which is close to Multiversal, but not quite, one timeline away, so this is Low Multiversal." The easy rebunk of that would be this: If youre going say its actually 10x100 because it skips over the digits at the left, then no, if that's the case, the numbers shouldn't increase by tens, it's just that none of these 10 timelines are different than the other with different events so it's not counted in the fun value. I know it skips tens on the left side, but that just implies each ten timelines at the left have the same events, so it's still 100x100 not 10x100. But even then, even if it was 10x100, that'd be 1000, 1 timeline away from multiversal, but then there's the fact that all these timelines are only from Frisk's save point, Flowey's has more and different ones, so add that amount along with the 1000 one and it would still be good enough for multiversal. How does Flowey have more? Well, in every single timeline we play Undertale, Flowey has already done all of his timelines through his reset button, clearly, his save point is obviously different from ours. All of his timelines are considered unaltered timelines via the fact we cannot change them no matter what we do with Frisk's timelines, all these unaltered timelines happened in every single Frisk timeline as Frisk fell into the underground way after Flowey resetted a lot lot. So in conclusion, the fun value actually shows 10000 timelines, each timeline of these 10000 have an equal unknown amount of unaltered Flowey timelines. (Also, can I just talk about how ridicilously stupid it is to count this as low multiversal even if it was only just **ONE** timeline away?) And Chara destroyed the whole Game which contains those timelines The main arguments for 4D of is ^ evidence of Saves existing in the game. Obviously if a game isn't incredibly meta and is self-aware of it's mechanics, it would be seen as game mechanics and nothing else. But this is the opposite when it comes to OFF and I think you should know how meta this game is to know enough about how this works. Save Files literally contain the Universe, you are in. Multiple Save Files each have their own same identical copy and structures. This should also be obvious but a Universe is bound of contained by Space-Time. So by default, a Save File would be considered a Low 2-C Construct unless there are cosmological issues that prevent this from happening but those are literally not default and is done because of the writing of the story itself. But that one wouldn't really scale him to 2-C straight up, Save Files are typically non-canon. At best messing with them can be data manipulation. If there no statements regarding the Save Files in a game then it's best not to assume it's 4D. Because that would literally mean every game with a save feature has a 2-C cosmology and upwards. Which can be REALLY flawed by thinking that. So overall he's just High Universal the batter destroyed an infinite sized space or smth like that, the sun has infinite energy stated by enoch "we are like gods, drawing from the infinite power from the sun to sculpt our worlds into nothingness" which makes it infinite 3D and still fodder to 4D Undertale, and without context, Savefiles by default are just Data Manipulation To the Speed Scale, Judge stated that The Nothingness is a place outside of space itself, where you can travel at one point to another at the speed of light This makes Batter Speed of Light to Infinite Speed but still fodder to Immeasurable Frisk/Chara So... Frisk/Chara No Diffs + solos OFF Verse
Naaah.... I prefer Batters win. The real WORKER would easy crush another psychotic child. Batter have more adventures in worlds of fangames of other creators .... Games like " Repeat", sincere deceit, ONE, Bx-execute, continue stop rise .... Etc. i prefere interpretation of Batter as machine of destruction for twisted illusive worlds created as lie to hide from reality. Undertale's universe - good example of such cind of world.😂
Batter is more powerfull and can destroy all life in the world. Frisk can change time, is immortal but wouldn't get much from Chara but insults + Frisk could win only because is immortal, unless Batter could null Frisk damage, it could take hours, days, months, Batter wouldn't notice because of Frisk changing time.
Didn't expect this to blow up unlike the old one lol, btw i'm thinking of changing the title into "Chara vs The Batter" after figuring out that Geno!Frisk before the Sans Fight is Chara
This actually feels the most realistic since batter has no way of destroying frisks/charas save file without the lever while chara can destroy his whenever they want
While IDK if Chara can literally destroy Batter's Spawn point, they could just delete the timeline and Batter with it.
@@Annihilate0405 Yeah that’s what I mean they can just do that and both destroy batter and the spawn point at any given point
Don't forget Chara's Erasure can make Batter not Come Back again
@@ThatNiko. yeah as it would destroy his spawn point thus giving him nothing to come back too as there’s literally nothing left after there slash
Why do people think chara can just pop into existence when they’ve done nothing in the game besides erasing a timeline
I like how from 3:24 to 3:33 they were both in the emptiness of their games, and how they saw each other next to their spawn point, which lead to their game plan when they respawned again: DESTROY the opponent's respawn point.
This was really good, I'm honestly shocked at how frequently you've been able to post high quality animations like this.
NO WAY!!! BOTH OF MY FAVOURITE GAMES *AND* FANDOOMS IN ONE VID??? BRO I'M SUBSCRIBING!!!
the crazy thing now that i think about it is that Frisk doesn't even need to return to their save point to continue the fight-they can just will themselves to return back at the beginning of the battle (or phase in the case of the Asriel Dreemurr fight if i remember correctly)
it was an unfair battle for the Batter from start to finish-even if he had the chance to purify Chara, that would never happen as Chara doesn't need a button or switch to destroy the whole world and they have been able to resist the influence of the player
If you're talking about the "refused death" ability that Frisk has, then that only works on the pacifist ending.
Since Frisk's determination varies in the different endings, to put in short
Pacifist Frisk DT>>>Genocide Frisk DT>>>Neutral Frisk DT.
@@NewVision_true actually i am talking about Frisk.. literally returning to the beginning of the fight when defeated-if you get a gameover you can choose to just continue/retry and jump right to the boss fight instead of returning to the save point; regardless of the route
@@chronred8190 Oh, that! I got it wrong sorry.
I thought you're talking about the refused ability, since you mentioned Asriel's fight.
@@NewVision_true no worries! ^^
@@chronred8190when did that happen
Standing ovation, good sir! This animation was simply amazing!
This was a nice sprite battle between Frisk and The Batter
Are you okay if I react to this video
Sure
Great reanimation. It was worth the wait.
Bro got humbled and said I don’t wanna play this game anymore💀
I like how this has a the feel of a actual death battle episode! It feels as if I’m watching an official one! I also love the glitch effect you used for both of them!
All i can imagine is this is going to be similar to Ghost Rider vs Lobo, where Chara would take full control like Zarathos did on Ghost Rider
Even for a brief cameo, thanks for using my Sans sprites. Excellent fight!
W remake + Outcome like always 🔥🗿🔥✨✨
the batter do his best for that fight good job bro
Woah you’ve gotten a lot better since I last checked up on you. Good shit
Finally someone who actually did a Research on Frisk other than relying on In-game stats
Just because Batter deals "More Damage" doesn't mean that's stronger than Frisk, that's just like Relying on Cross Scaling + Game Mechanics
Also Batter has no way to counter Frisk/Chara's Determination (you mean Purification? Yeah that one is Existence Erasure, which is Resisted by Frisk)
-SNIFF- B A T T E R S O L O S
When you take the explanations for both of the series', you can easily determine that the two are even actually. Determination is a plain metaphor for the feeling of "I'm going to defeat you" that the player feels when fighting a difficult enemy. Batter's "purification" is not erasure it is the destruction of child-like wonder. OFF is determined based off of whatever you believe it to be, and The Batter is (at face value) an unstoppable force of destruction. Chara doesn't solo, Chara may be some nine tails fox/Sukuna -but Chara is just the representation of the Player. Batter (when being played as) is as strong as he needs to be to defeat his opponent, he is change incarnate. Frisk is the lengths a player would go to defeat their enemy. Frisk may be determined, but The Batter is inevitable.
@@Dumbassx in his dreams
Someone actually made an animation on this match up with research?? The animations I seen for this matchup we’re just animations with no research
@@SuperMario-hy3sm People completely rely on Game Mechanics crap as a reason for Batter to beat Chara and Frisk "Batter's Weapons Deals a Hundred Damage while Chara's only deals 99" "Batter has more HP than Frisk and Chara" "Batter's Purification can Overcome Determination"
First of all, Game Mechanics don't count, by this logic then even Toriel solos OFF because anyone in OFF have extremely low Chance of avoiding an Attack meanwhile Toriel can keep up throwing fireballs
Second Purification is Existence Erasure which is easily resisted by Frisk and Chara
Third Feats are Important, let's get to the point, Chara's Best Feat is destroying the entire Game with several Timelibes/Keeping up with Asriel and capable of moving after the Timelines are Destroyed (Multiverse+ and Immeasurable)
Meanwhile Batter's Best Feat is defeating The Queen who destroyed 3 Suns with Infinite Energy, Flew at the Sun for a second, and Moving outside Space (High Universal and MFTL+ to possibly Infinite/Inaccessible)
So overall, Frisk/Chara Clears
You might say it was Frisk who fought Asriel? Well, Chara is still with Frisk in Soulless Pacifist route, which they tookover in the end
That exp about to go crazy everybody’s not safe
2:17 gojo treatment 💀
I think this whole ass fight would depend entirely on who the player is playing as, since the player is an entity in both games, they would have an impact in the fight, unless it just becomes a vs game, on who can beat who first
Good animation
F in the chat for Batter
Where is the batter from ?
@guill225 OFF
@@gill8225 a very very strange game
this animation could be a game about kill the enemy spawnpoint
The only thing that is very wrong is genocide frisk using jetpack
I just combined Frisk from Genocide to Soulless Pacifist (a Pacifist Route where Chara takes over in the end) and gave The Player to Batter (which resulted him being able to revive himself)
This was great!
Ong it's you (i saw your channel cause of Springtrap vs Junko)
Damn, the kid got me. And i couldn't even react.
I couldn't react in time.
Good remake
[*Determination]
Beautiful animation to two of the best RPGs ever created! The cult of cult OFF and the little indie that became a hit Undertale. This also shows off why Chara is one of the scariest video game villains: they never quit. They just regenerate and keep trying until 'they beat the game'. Le Batteur didn't have a chance despite having the same system. It was always a contest of Determination.
I mean is she really if you were a boss would you find her very scary i just dont know because you beat her ass In hundreds of timelines it’s like dark souls but easier I swear I’ll roll but still get hit
@@thenex16x_doodlebob The Mimic when you try to dodge on Dark Souls 2 feels unbeatable, it's so buggy you teleport to it's mouth
Batter didn't use his abilities, Chara don't like Frisk to help, but it would only change how much time it would take and Batter wouldn't notice the time changing.
@@handesonrenatoguimaraes2615 Stop making Headcanons LMFAO, Chara NEVER HATED Frisk, That was THE PLAYER WHO WAS CHARA TALKING TO NOT FRISK
Good Remake
Looks Better than the Original
Btw will you Re-Animate one of your Delayed Works like that Zero vs Seven one?
The reason why i delayed Zero vs Seven is because i have no Music Ideas to use, but yeah, i will some day
You cooked,Good job!
Epic animation and you deserve more subs than me
Absolutely peak. What else is there to say
you earned yourself a suscriber
Rip sans undertale again
This is cool 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah frisk / chara winning just makes sense.
Remake?
If yes I'd say it's better than the OG
I lean on Genocide Frisk taking the W here since we know he's atleast bare minimum at his peak he got to be about strong enough to destroy the entire universe/game they were in with their physical strength by the end while the Batter turns off a switch which wipes out an entire universe but that in no way means batter can just bust the entire universe like that , if he could he would've already done so
That was chara not frisk
@@memnaidowu7791 and Chara was possessing Frisk in Genocide
@@ThatNiko. Not confirmed
@@sukong1232 the text in the mirror recognizes Frisk as Chara by "Hey it's me Chara" in the Genocide Run
And this one doesn't happen in any other routes
if the Player does not collaborate with them in their guidance, Chara will still take full control of Frisk at the end of a True Pacifist completed after a Genocide run
Even Flowey instantly recognizes them as Chara despite having a different appearance and other big changes in personality than Frisk's that other monsters notice
And that Soulless Pacifist Too
more away from identifying the human as 'You' and more with first-person pronouns, which in return refer to the First Human ('It's me, Chara'). For example, in all of New Home, it is implied that they've taken over the little overworld actions Frisk does in Neutral and Pacifist ('I unlocked the chain'). However, when it comes to battles, they generally defer to us until we reach LV 20 ('You feel like you're going to have a bad time' in Sans' fight, and we are directly in control there, but just after with Asgore and Flowey we don't even get a choice)
So it's pretty much Chara is using Frisk's Body
Also the whole Genocide Frisk was Chara all along, who later on took over Frisk
+ even if that wasn't true Genocide Frisk is still overall Chara
While it is a crazy fight I do think frisk would lose. Chara is another animal a step above what the rest of undertale brings to the table. Good fight though batter! You did good!
Well i can agree that Frisk would lose if it's just LV19 but LV20/Chara then it's a stomp now
@@yellowanims900 oh absolutely. Chara is a different animal like I said. Absolute menace of a character. I consider them and frisk different though.
@@yellowanims900If only Batter would have shown up a minute earlier.
Chara hates Frisk
@@yellowanims900
@@handesonrenatoguimaraes2615 since when?
Nice remaster.
Крутая анимация
Loved the animation but i lowkey thought batter had this one
There really is and never will be a way The Batter can win
From the very beginning of his game, it is made very clear that he is but a puppet.
He was never in control of himself from the moment his life began
Batter's Best Wincon is purifying Frisk's Soul but the issue is Frisk has resistence to Existence Erasure, and Batter's Purification is more likely like one so yeah, and Batter gets speedblitzed everytime he tries to
@@ThatNiko. Most notably, There are cases where Batter is Faster, and, arguably, stronger then Frisk, being able to travel to The Nothingness at will and taking considerably more damage then frisk ever could in a single sitting, not to mention how much more options of he has to fight with status effects from both himself and his Add-ons. But that also becomes a downside, While Batter is more then able to take hits, he rarely can ever avoid them as appose to Frisk, who is capable to avoiding just about anything if learned enough, something Batter is incapable of doing.
But because Undertale is all about timelines and having a choice, OFF only has one straight and narrow path, where no matter the choice, it is all your fault and out of your control. There really is only one things matters in a fight like this
control
something Frisk always had and Batter can only dream of having
Didn't Batter manipulated the Player???
This is a huge feat, but it won't do much in his battle than taking the "rings" from his side.
@@handesonrenatoguimaraes2615 Wouldn't say Manipulated but the game's overall moral objective is very vague and unclear from the start, it's more or less a realization from the player then Batter manipulating
@@handesonrenatoguimaraes2615 No he did not lmao
Two unkillable monsters are fighting
As somone who dosent know what the batter is I can say with 1000 percent frisk wins solely because of hax and power
Maybe power not, but an infinite Hax is unbeatable
Genius
Really good animation bro
But I think Batter would win because OFF's cosmology compared to Undertale cosmology is way bigger and stronger I'd say
Can i have ab explanation for this please?
A lot of people forgotten that Chara has deleted the entire world and can always bought back anytime they like. Since this is a genocide run, it is possible that Frisk has already sold their soul to Chara, so basically Chara can take control if the situation is necessary
In this case Chara deleted Batter from the game file, so Batter wouldn't be able to respawn. The Batter can also shut down the world too, but it would require him to be in the level room, so it would be really niche.
@nosu5530 Wasn't that The Player who sold their soul to Chara?
@@yellowanims900 I mean idk the lore is a bit confusing
@nosu5530 I'm thinking that was The Player, cause the Mirror in Genocide Route actually refers Frisk as Chara and taking over Frisk's Body in the end of Soulless Pacifist
1:12 damn frisk
Can you do Frisk Vs Grimm (BS)
The way you used Sans' sprites with his ribs really bothers me a little but good animation overall
Let's just say those are his *Zips* rather than ribs then
i was almost falling asleep at the first day when finding a sprite for Sans so i used that instead to make the whole corridor scene
@@yellowanims900 that's a great thinking
Let's just assume these are just wrinkle or fold in the clothing material
Hang on a min, in Temmie Chang's Official Art Sans actually has his ribs under his hoodie
@@Mado..... Holy shi, you just reminded me that
Seeing how meta both games are, Batter is more likely to win as the combat is much easier (literally just mashing Z till the adversary stops existing), and given how he has all the onion rings, it'd just be pretty similar to those shitty "tested" 2020 sans fight fan games in terms of the sheer amount of spam against enemies who can heal whenever and dodge every once in a while. I'm not saying a really good Undertale player couldn't win, but after dealing with the OFF player loading a few times and having to die YET ANOTHER several dozen more times to shittiest of fannon spam "patterns" is gonna cause most people to outright uninstall the game. IE, the vast majority of unfortunate UT players who load into this "cursed" version of the game. After all, Batter only has the halos when "god" sides with him.
Also, as the Batter and OFF players are pretty determined beat the game, there's a good chance the Save system in Undertale would stop working, as it did for Flowey, so in this scenario, at best, it's a oneshot fight to the death heavily leaning towards "the ducky." Worst case, you see the assholes from OFF save in front of you.
Granted, this is for the Genocide/High LV neutrals, for a pacifist/low lv neutral, I'd have to give it to the UT player/Frisk as you could probably just talk your way out of the Batter fight who's "holy mission" in this cross over would likely be freeing monsterkind from the Underground(the game is advertised as a pasifistic rpg)by leading them to the six souls and then waiting 40 minutes irl for him to break the barrier with a giant bat. Said pacifist route would aslo probably be similar to Deltarune chapter 1, in which you have to warn most enemies about the Batters/Funyuns rings as he would 100% view the monster's "expressions" as interference with his holy mission. Still, while harder to do a pacifist run in this scenario, it'd be far more entertaining, especially if playing with a friend.
if this frisk from geno route then why does they have jetpack and shooting phone? alphys didn't upgraded that
In Soulless Pacifist (a Pacifist Route where Chara tookover) they had that, so i decided to combine both Geno and Soulless Pacifist to make it more fun
@@yellowanims900 how pacifist and geno can be combined if those are opositise, bro.
btw mega good animation
@eplichek that was Soulless Pacifist not regular Pacifist
where is homerun sound effect 😭
All OFF Sound Effects were the same aren't they?
what's the music? its really good
Linked in desc
Correct if im wrong but i feel this is a sonic.exe situation with fighting frisk/chara especially since the batter is fighting in the undertale game a game were he's nether from nor familiar with heck ot couuls probably go the other way id this fight took place in the batters game
mmaaan
i already seen this
Frisk vs Omori?
Omori wins Unless we composite Frisk or involve Chara
Do fosk vs matt
Boy I love when my sprites are stolen without credit for someone else’s content
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@@yellowanims900grazie
Why is Frisk's phone upgraded? Isn't this Genocide?
I composite both Frisk and Batter
@@yellowanims900 What does that mean?
@kodawanberg6887 that means Combining Versions
@@yellowanims900 Oh okay
For sure any version of Frisk could work until Chara Appears (which they did in Soulless Pacifist)
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#UNDERTALEvsOFF
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@@yellowanims900 do you accept battle request*question mark*
@silvanacasse390 That depends
But sometimes i can't take them
@@yellowanims900 omori vs the batter
@@yellowanims900 how about
cap
I would love an explanation.
@@minervamariatavarez5495 Dawg that wouldn't do anything to frisk and chara, also coming back to life? Nice try Frisk/Chara can too, also it is confirmed that Saving and LOADING are a part of the Undertale Lore, also Batter's Purification is most likely an Existence Erasure which is easily resisted by Frisk and Chara, The existence of someone with a higher amount of Determination (as it exists in Undertale) would result in the inability of beings with lesser amounts of it[3] from using their power to SAVE and LOAD, due to the control over the timeline being inherited to only the one with the highest amount of Determination, and Batter isn't a Part of Undertale nor has the Soul of Determination so there's no way he's putting Frisk down
"Purification can defeat Frisk for good"
First of all, "Purification" is just existence Erasure, it shows that it erases the enemy everytume they get purified, and as well corruption which only corrupts the area, not the enemy, Frisk resisted Existence Erasure, they were able to tank Asriel's Hypergoner which erased the entire timeline itself so they'll have no trouble Dealing with Purification
Second "This is Frisk, Not Chara"
Are we just gonna be using Genocide Frisk? If yes then that could be mean using Chara too, The Mirror in Genocide says "Hey, it's me, Chara!" Which doesn't happen in other routes, As well the Soulless Pacifist Route, Where you chose to stay with Toriel Chara takes over Frisk at their Sleep, also if Genocide Frisk is not Chara then how come Chara mentions the name you give them? "Greetings. I am Chara" and as well the Mirror "Hey it's me Chara"
Third "Batter has more HP than Frisk and Chara" that sh is just Game Mechanics, by this logic Terraria Guy solos Elder Scrolls because his weapons Deal more Damage than Dragonborn
Fourth "Batter could use Frisk as an EXP Punching Bag" which will never happen, Now as for speed, once again, all comes from omega flowey, scaling to a being is that is through an infinite amount of timelines is immeasurable speed, as you're fighting a being, throughout linear timelines. Meaning frisk, sans, GOH azzy, OF, and chara all have 2-A status(sans with dura neg), and immeasurable speed (OF with omnipresence). Gaster also probably belongs here but i need to refresh my memory on how the void works, and if gaster is relative to the void or any of the 5 listed. Which means Frisk/Chara has Immeasurable Speed
Even without Pacifist Scaling Chara still has Immeasurable in the end of Genocide,Chara Harnessed incredible amounts of Determination, giving them the power to destroy Undertale as a game entirely and was able to exist on nothingness aka no space-time and even if you were to argue that Chara only destroyed space, like i said space and time are interwined so if there's no space on where Frisk and Chara was, then there was no time as well like "there is nothing left for us in here" which means Chara is still Immeasurable in the end of Genocide
Let me get to the scale
Let me put a downplayed/lowballed scale because why not
This is the fun value, where it basically talks about the different events of each timeline you can go through with Frisk's save point.
This alone would make the cosmo multiversal.
100x100 tiles, each tile is a timeline,so basically this gives us 10000 timelines, which is way above 1001 timelines, and past 1001 timelines is multiversal.
So this makes the cosmology multiversal.
Now, people like to downplay this even more by saying it is just low multiversal, the argument goes as: "It's actually 10x100 and not 100x100, because on the left, you can see that there are skipped over tens.
This gives us only 1000 timelines, which is close to Multiversal, but not quite, one timeline away, so this is Low Multiversal."
The easy rebunk of that would be this: If youre going say its actually 10x100 because it skips over the digits at the left, then no, if that's the case, the numbers shouldn't increase by tens, it's just that none of these 10 timelines are different than the other with different events so it's not counted in the fun value.
I know it skips tens on the left side, but that just implies each ten timelines at the left have the same events, so it's still 100x100 not 10x100.
But even then, even if it was 10x100, that'd be 1000, 1 timeline away from multiversal, but then there's the fact that all these timelines are only from Frisk's save point, Flowey's has more and different ones, so add that amount along with the 1000 one and it would still be good enough for multiversal.
How does Flowey have more?
Well, in every single timeline we play Undertale, Flowey has already done all of his timelines through his reset button, clearly, his save point is obviously different from ours.
All of his timelines are considered unaltered timelines via the fact we cannot change them no matter what we do with Frisk's timelines, all these unaltered timelines happened in every single Frisk timeline as Frisk fell into the underground way after Flowey resetted a lot lot.
So in conclusion, the fun value actually shows 10000 timelines, each timeline of these 10000 have an equal unknown amount of unaltered Flowey timelines.
(Also, can I just talk about how ridicilously stupid it is to count this as low multiversal even if it was only just **ONE** timeline away?)
And Chara destroyed the whole Game which contains those timelines
The main arguments for 4D of is ^ evidence of Saves existing in the game.
Obviously if a game isn't incredibly meta and is self-aware of it's mechanics, it would be seen as game mechanics and nothing else. But this is the opposite when it comes to OFF and I think you should know how meta this game is to know enough about how this works. Save Files literally contain the Universe, you are in. Multiple Save Files each have their own same identical copy and structures. This should also be obvious but a Universe is bound of contained by Space-Time.
So by default, a Save File would be considered a Low 2-C Construct unless there are cosmological issues that prevent this from happening but those are literally not default and is done because of the writing of the story itself.
But that one wouldn't really scale him to 2-C straight up, Save Files are typically non-canon. At best messing with them can be data manipulation. If there no statements regarding the Save Files in a game then it's best not to assume it's 4D. Because that would literally mean every game with a save feature has a 2-C cosmology and upwards. Which can be REALLY flawed by thinking that. So overall he's just High Universal the batter destroyed an infinite sized space or smth like that, the sun has infinite energy stated by enoch "we are like gods, drawing from the infinite power from the sun to sculpt our worlds into nothingness" which makes it infinite 3D and still fodder to 4D Undertale, and without context, Savefiles by default are just Data Manipulation
To the Speed Scale, Judge stated that The Nothingness is a place outside of space itself, where you can travel at one point to another at the speed of light
This makes Batter Speed of Light to Infinite Speed but still fodder to Immeasurable Frisk/Chara
So...
Frisk/Chara No Diffs + solos OFF Verse
Na wrong
Naaah.... I prefer Batters win. The real WORKER would easy crush another psychotic child. Batter have more adventures in worlds of fangames of other creators .... Games like " Repeat", sincere deceit, ONE, Bx-execute, continue stop rise .... Etc. i prefere interpretation of Batter as machine of destruction for twisted illusive worlds created as lie to hide from reality. Undertale's universe - good example of such cind of world.😂
Batter is more powerfull and can destroy all life in the world.
Frisk can change time, is immortal but wouldn't get much from Chara but insults
+ Frisk could win only because is immortal, unless Batter could null Frisk damage, it could take hours, days, months, Batter wouldn't notice because of Frisk changing time.
I agree with this and the fact mortis said that fangames were canon makes this even better, batter truly wins.