Things Disney doesn’t understand about Star Wars. 1. The Stars (I feel like we’ve been stuck on a desert planet of some variation for every single movie/show. 2. The Wars (never do we ever have a sense of any factions/allegiances outside of First Order empire bad and good guys good with no nuance to the conflict) remember the prequels giving us actual context to the conflict? Too boring I guess. 3. Lightsabers (they don’t dismember, can somehow strike non lethal blows, and the new props must be heavy as fuck because they def don’t look like “light” sabers anymore. 4. The Force (they have no sense of what it is, how it scales, and how to balance it logically. It’s more a plot device than a power of the Jedi/Sith now. A get out of jail free card for bad writing. 5. Jedi/Sith (so you’re telling me that 30 years after the OT the force and it’s users are now stuff of legend? That’s like saying Vietnam is a fairytale in 2022. Also Jedis are known for stoicism, discipline, and unbreakable will, but Rey screams and yells all the time and fights purely with emotion.) 6. How to write a decent story
I could rebut all of these, but I'm going to pick on #5 because it's the easiest. 20 years after Order 66, Luke had no idea what the Force was. Rey had heard some stuff, but wasn't sure if it was true or not. The Emperor was a master of propaganda and scapegoating. Ask a 20-year-old today what they know about Vietnam, or pick a more current event, they won't know shit. And they have all that information at their fingertips via their cellphone. I'm not saying this show is perfect. But since I like Star Wars, I'm willing to look for the stuff I like and let the other stuff slide. I don't have to watch it or even like it. But I think it would be pretty shitty of me to tell another Star Wars fan not to watch it because it sucks when there are literally thousands and thousands that love it. Thinking you know better than everyone else is narcissistic behavior. It's Trumpian. Let folks make up their own minds - hey, maybe they know what they like better than you do. Don't be the guy who sees a dude eating his lunch and enjoying it and then telling him it looks gross and smells funny. Don't be the guy who tells his friend who is in love that his girlfriend is ugly. Live and let live. I had to learn that myself and still have to catch myself from time to time.
@@B-a-t-m-a-n “trumpian” “but since I like Star Wars I’m willing to let the other stuff slide” and the whole second paragraph is just a straw man. Let me retort. Ask any well educated 20-30 year old about Vietnam and they will be able to give you a general summary of the conflict. We all took American history, whether you paid attention or not is on you, palpatine is a master of prolog and a and misdirection yes, but to completely wipe an event as major as a galactic war from multiple populations of planets minds in such a short time is illogical, especially when people that were alive during the even would still logically be around in the present. As far as the quotes I took from your statement, I’m not really going to address “trumpian” because that’s just a stupid buzzword I’m not falling for, and then the second quote is the precise mentality of why Disney Star Wars is so shit. Stop forgiving mediocrity, especially since it isn’t Disney’s original IP they have no right to go in and fuck it up to this degree, they should feel lucky they have the privilege to produce media with the Star Wars name on it, but instead they use it as a platform to throw political hissy fits on Twitter when they face real criticism for their shit product. They had an entire EU that they scrapped for 3 shows based on old characters played by the same old tired actors and keeping the universe to what seems to be a population of 150 people. And it’s not just Star Wars they are ruining either, it’s marvel too. You should be sick of the shit too, look at Fallen Order, how great it was, because Disney had nothing to do with it, it wasn’t infested with out of place looking actors, cheap budgets, and lame ass writing because the people who Made it clearly care about the property, while Disney sees it as their own personal money cow to keep feeding the general audience member berry soup that they don’t want anymore. The ratings show it. Disney are the narcissists pal, not me.
You forgot one, “space” & basic concepts like electronics , engineering, physics, etc. Yes, this comes out of a plot contrivance,they want the smuggling operation to be discovered,and more people to increase stakes, but they throw on an explanation that’s just ridiculous. They have a ship, and for some reason, blah, blah trade routes, they’ve been waiting 2 months to leave? What? Travel in Star Wars was pretty simple, it functioned solely to get characters from A to B, until Rian Johnson showed up and broke Star Wars in every way imaginable, to have his ridiculously contrived plot, so now when, and only when, the writers need it to happen, suddenly travel in Star Wars becomes super complicated, has fuel issues, and either mirrors Sea travel or our current real world level of technology, where we need launch windows and distances are huge in our solar system, etc. Now the hyperspace is broke? How much do you want to bet, that the writers will have no understanding of what that actually means? They might as well return to the planet to fix it, or it’s going to take thousands of years to get anywhere! Like the plot hole in Last Jedi, when the slow chase started, they would have had to come out of hyperspace right next to “Not Hoth”, to arrive there in 10-20 hours, it would be obvious that was where they were going, because it was the ONLY place they could reach, not using hyperspace, so they couldn’t have ever planned to “sneak down” to the planet, it’s moronic.
Reva’s story should have been that she was the least of the inquisitors because she had yet to capture/kill a Jedi. Maybe she has actually been secretly allowing Jedi/Force users to get away as she comes upon them, but now because of her failure among their ranks she is about to be removed from the rank of inquisitor. She could then have an internal conflict of seeing her opportunity to reach Vader slipping away and the need to do things she is opposed to in order carry on the charade and move up the ranks. The stress of the situation could then be attributed to her obsession with Obi-Wan, knowing that he is the only prize that would garner Vader’s attention. There is a hundred different ways her character could have been developed to make her a good character
Now that’s a show I’d like to see! You’re right. The problem isn’t that there was no way for her character to be good, it’s that they completely wasted the chance to make her good,
My sons and I would've MUCH rather had an Inquisitors show/series. I never wanted to see anything involving Kenobi, because I knew they'd break him down and destroy canon along with it (though I didn't think it'd be to this extent). They could've had Reva be the star. They would've had to have Vader in it. But not Kenobi. It still would've been bad (experience tells us), but Obi-Wan/Luke and Leia would've remained safe (from Disney SJW). They could've even had Ewan McGregor pop up in one episode where the Inquisitors show up on Tatooine, but he remains in the shadows while they chase down a false lead or something. ANYthing else but this. Oh well.
@@TheLittlePlatoon They made Vader good at the end of it all. VADER. Pretty sure they can still pull that off with Reva if that's the direction this is going.
Someone tried convincing me on another video comments that Leia being an expert in electronics and wiring at 10 is fine because Aniken was building and racing pod racers at 10. They tried claiming that Ani's skill was no more earned than Leia's. I pointed out when he was introduced he was working in a junk shop repairing droids and pod racers. I didn't hear back after that.
Wouldn't it be more logical to argue that because of an inherited talent (like Luke and flying) that shed been drawn to it as a hobby and learning how to do it since a young age? Not that they both magically had mechanic powers? Ones plausible, the others not how anything works
@@bloodyneptune A bit of a necro. But ok, talents aren't inherited. Not plausable at all. Aniken was shown working in a repair shop. not sure how that's 'magical'. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Both Luke and Anikin grew up around a culture of pod racing and mechanical prowess. Well, Aniken less so arguably, but still. Leia grew up in the lap of luxury, so to speak, compared to Luke and certainly compared to Aniken.
Vader was moments away from killing Reva last episode for letting Obi Wan get away a second time... but when Reva lets Obi Wan get away a third time AND tries to kill Vader he...lets her live? Maybe he wanted her to suffer and die from her wounds but the grand inquisitor literally survived that exact same injury in the second episode... the show is a mess
You do realize he knew Reva was trying to kill him the ENTIRE time she was an inquisitor right? He let her live because he was using her the whole time. It was all part of his manipulation….
@@tehCostHD And what is the reason for letting her live now? Because he cannot be bothered to finish her off? Some contrived nonsens of him somehow knowing where she is going to go next and wanting to use her to draw out Obi-Wan again?
I tell ya, when Reva started fighting Vader I got nervous because I have no doubt that there was at least one draft where Reva would defeat Vader. At least they were just self aware enough to not let that happen. I would have broken my iPad
That scenario would have reva decapitate Vader and emperor would reattach Vader’s head back on his body, creating the Omni potent freak who traumatized a generation
A staple of OT Star Wars (and even the prequels to some extent) was its rewatchability. Almost nothing Disney has produced is still being talked about. They’ve left no legacy at all. Hilariously, UA-cam videos dissecting the garbage that was the sequel trilogy are what’s keeping the memory of those films alive.
It's just "content" for contents sake. Watch it, quickly forget it and move on to the next piece of crap. They have so many shows announced and each one will be just as stupid and lazy as the last.
Exactly, i have rewatched the OT ad prequels (more so these) countless times. Infact games too i have played older star wars games more times than newer ones
I'm glad at least some other people dislike this show. Seeing so many fans simping for Disney every time the show is criticized has really been making me cynical about the future of media. A rumoured budget of $20-$25 million an episode and it somehow looks, feels, and is written like a rushed, budget sci-fi show from 20 years ago. And one that would've been quickly cancelled, no less.
It really is a lowering of the bar. The future does indeed look bleak if people are willing to except such bottom of the barrel trash and even try to defend it as anything besides just plain stupid.
I'm really shocked at the people IRL and on UA-cam who are swallowing this tripe- the most famous (for many) being Red Letter Media. The channel that was built on dissecting how wrong the Prequels got Star Wars and continued on to call out stuff like Rogue One somehow gives a pass to crap like Solo and now this!? It really makes my head spin.
@@tylerskiss I think, as far as Red Letter Media goes, that they just like to say the opposite of everyone else. I've really started to like then less and less recently. They seem to want to be ironic and oh-so-hip with their movie opinions but they often come off as snobs and celebrity brown nosers.
@@miketocci I think you're on to something here. I know they love to take the piss out of things most fans want them to review, like The Batman, and while I find it amusing, they do love to take a funny joke and just run it into the ground over and over and over and over... like an ATV wheel driving over a stuntman's head. I'm pretty sure when they do get to reviewing those things, you're right, they are almost always saying the opposite of what you would expect... I noticed that with Mike a lot. He will always claim he loves crap that, if you follow the logic presented in the Plinkett reviews, he should absolutely despise.
Iv been trying to write a book for years and what frustrates me is people dont realize storytelling is art draped over a structure of science. The goal is not to intoxicate the audience with memberberries but to manipulate their emotions to something specific. If a scene is intended to scare then it is a success when people are scared. If that scene just makes people laugh, such an unintended consequence just makes it a failure - an example of bad storytelling/writing/directing etc..
I'm sorry. I can't. I just can't. Bail Organa did the equivalent of leaving A PHONE MESSAGE - a message that ANYONE CAN "READ" - that spills the beans on Luke? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Nothing in this episode or series has been more galling to me than that...and there's a lot of WTF did I just see? before this.
The Stormtrooper banging his head was a mistake, a blooper, the actor couldn't see in the helmet enough to see the door was still in his way. It was a production mistake that got left in and later during the Special edition George Lucas added the "bonk" sound effect, as a way to laugh at his own mistake for not catching it and redoing that scene. so any camp in Star Wars was unintentional, a rather inexperienced film maker doing the best he can. this crap in Obi-wan is done on purpose.
@@shanenolan8252 No actually he doesn't. if you look close he ducks under Slave 1's door just in time. but I get your point its almost like wearing a full face helmet limits your vertical peripheral vision. and by the time of a New Hope there were very little clones left. Stormtroopers for the most part were normal Imperial Citizens.
@@kizunadragon9 well i believe it was 20 percent clone, and Vader used the best of them , stormtroopers in a new hope were 501st legion . If you loook at the battlefront 501st journal shorts . Or the force unleashed books . And immediately after episode 3 palpatine started new clone programs, but with a variety of different clones, and they were allowed to grow naturally for a longer career, the trooper corp was established during the clone wars i think tarkin was involved. But regular citizens were in the army , navy and navy troops, intelligence, imperial security ect vader kept the jango clones. There were regular citizens and by the ot there were the majority, and there were other clone manufacturing facilities. Of lesser quality troops or pilots.
@@shanenolan8252 Gotta disagree with you there, the 501st were not in a New Hope, mostly because the 501st were not complete morons. Certainly not on Tatooine anyway. None of the Troopers had the trademark insignias Like the blue stripe to honor their clone wars days or the red insignia.
@@kizunadragon9 George retconed it . He changed the voices added tamura Morrison. ( not in the original or the early special editions) and if you listen to the battlefront part its part of the story , 501st were ordered to let them escape and a significant number of the 501st was aboard the death star . ( vaders fist )
I think the most laughable excuse I saw for Leia knowing her way around electronics is Anakin knew how to build a droid when he was 9. He had skills therefore his daughter also has those skills except we have no set up to let us know she is mechanically inclined. WTF? Like you stated, where did these advanced mechanical skills repairing the Falcon or on Endor?
That's what they are _trying_ to allude, but Anakin at least had years of experience tinkering with electronics as implied by his job with Watto. Nothing is established as to how Leia knows her way around electronics. Also, how is she so talented with electronics, yet not ask anyone to cut the breakers on the machinery she's working on because, you know, high voltage electrocution?
Not only are her skills never established, but we don’t even remotely understand what the heck she’s supposed to be doing in that area, messing with cables. She is not seen repairing anything, she just seems to make her way through cables to eventually find some button… they obviously didn’t know how to sort out the escape and needed Leia to play some role in it…
The biggest problem with this show (that I have yet to see anyone mention) is that it shouldn’t have been an action show. Any kind of action created would have little to no stakes since we know Obi-Wan and Luke make it to a New Hope. Instead this should have been a series exploring the effects this period of Obi-WAN’s life had on his mental state. A war veteran who had to kill his own “brother” and now secretly guards his son in isolation on a wasteland planet has so much potential as an emotional story.
Or if there was action keep it to defending Luke, and even have some foreshadowing of Obi-Wan defending Luke from Tusken Raiders or something along those lines.
@@joshuaslawson9125 my thoughts exactly. The only kind of action we should be seeing is from denizens of Tatooine. Most likely Tuskens or criminals - maybe even a Krayt Dragon - but never an Imperial threat. I should be clear, these threats should serve the purpose of “developing” Ben’s relation with Luke, Owen, etc. or with any internal conflict he has regarding his circumstances. As soon as one of these action scenes’ core drive is to threaten the life of one of these characters, they would become devoid of tension or importance.
I'm not famous or anything so it doesn't matter, but IVE BEEN SAYING THIS. They missed the whole fucking point, and it is obnoxiously present in the last episode when the entire finale is built on the tension of "Will Reva kill Luke???" When she absolutely fucking won't. How the hell did that make it out of the writers room? And then they sprinkled Home Alone on top of it by having Owen and Beru set traps to fight off an inquisitor? Wtf. I'm in a lot of writing workshops in college, and most of my teachers don't believe in critical workshops. We are making a push towards all positivity all the time. This is why that is bad. No one learns when they are writing out of their own asses.
@Blue Tinsley Well, college itself is already broken when it comes to actually teaching people skills/values. But that’s a whole other beastie of its own. Also, hello fellow sufferer (am also attending a university), what degree are you pursuing? I myself am, Computer Science.
24:40 He would have known that. You see, Darth Vader is quite known name... And Obi-Wan already heard of Sidius calling Anakin Dath Vader in episode 3, in a hologram. You know, when he and Yoda were watching holograms, including Anakin killing younglings? Another inconsistencies. They don't know their own lore!
After agreeing that Reva would strike at Vader while he was focused on Kenobi, Reva then waits until Vader has stopped focusing on Kenobi...and she SCREAMS at him. Wtf!? How can Disney honestly expect us to feel anything but contempt for this character?
Kenobi has been neutered, Darth Vader has God like powers( but he's never used them before, for some reason?) And and of course the smartest and toughest characters and main focus of the "Kenobi" show are predictably - an 8 year old princess and a black women wearing bullet proof plot armor(shocking). The show itself seems to have been written by children. When will this tiresome political correct bullshit come to an end?😴
Really wished that the whole ship stopping scene took a lot more effort from Vader, maybe even cause the whole facility that they were in to begin collapsing because of his use of the force and then reva to try and kill him it could have been so much more intense and well executed.
The "ship scene" stood out as really odd to me too, It makes no sense in continuity, and as you say Vader could of seemed at least a little bit exhausted after literally displaying off the scale God like powers and abilities( for the first time?) Stopping and ripping a space ship apart with only his mind/the force. It's almost like a bunch of idiots wrote it.
Such a shame... they had so much potential and they failed to capitalize on all of it. Even the epic moments - like Vader force-grabbing the ship - were immediately subverted by the idiotic plot points; in ths case a second ship (what) that he completely gives up on. And they could be solved easily. For example what if Reva attempting to assassinate him in that moment distracts him enough for the ship to leave? Just one idea, but there were so many wasted opportunities.
@@AthanasiosLazarou letting her live(in my mind) is to pull her down in the darkside for good, using her need for revenge. Letting the other ship go i guess is because Vader loves chasing his prey. I really enjoyed this episode and im a die hard Oldschool star wars fan 😄
@Bear in general the force is all over the place in this show… I thought the scene was badass but I agree it’s a fine line and you have to be really careful when introducing possibly canon-breaking powers into what is essentially a bridge between two well established cinematic worlds.
You keep right on nitpicking, don't give in and say "It is what it is." I hear that so much nowadays, for a variety of reasons, as if it's a substitute for deep insight or philosophical analysis. I salute you for holding to a standard.
I really enjoyed this well thought out critique of Kenobi. Especially good was how the fight between Vader and the goofy lady was broken down and shown for Exactly what it is: STUPID. It's depressing how some people will defend this garbage saying things "Well, the Vader fight was cool at least", there by displaying either their own stupidity or at least self-delusion. It's sad how some are seemingly happy to have garbage served to them, never stopping to think about things like continuity or just plain making sense.
And why does vader using the force to toy with her not make sense? Yeah it was different but weve never seen vader at his rawest most powerful form. I loved the fight scene because he was toying with her the entire time saying she could never defeat him without actually saying it. Its soul crushing to know no matter how hard you try that you are no match for a sith lord.
Vader not using his lightsaber was to show that she could never beat Vader. Him toying with her was his way of showing her that she is nothing compared to him. Every single thing he does in the fight is to make her feel small and useless and show just how much better his is than her. Him toying with her in this way is also even more brutal once they reveal Vader was aware of her plans this whole time. And it’s a good way of showing how vaders power and skill compared to his inquisitors
So many great opportunities were thrown away by not just this episode, but the whole show. It's tragic to think people continue to say this is good and then get mad at individuals who express their opinions that it is not. I totally see where you are coming from and really appreciate the honest insight provided into a show I am sad to see has degenerated into such drivel. Keep up the good work!
It beggars belief that they (allegedly) spend $25 million per episode on this burning pile of garbage. Oh well, episode 6 will venture back to Burbank/err Tatooine to wrap it all up.
By a wild coincidence there’s actually a part of this video that makes exactly the same point re the budget, and how little we’re actually getting for that money.
The final part when Reva finds that transmitter of Bail Organa telling Obi things that he would never say because that would jeopardize himself, his family & Luke to the Empire.
And the fact that they couldn’t think how to get from episode 5 to episode 6, so they just had con artist drop this super-convenient, super-compromising McGuffin. Jesus Christ.
I cannot fathom why some people, STAR WARS FANS, really, unironically believe this episode to be the “bestest episode evar”, as you beautifully put it on the thumbnail. It seems to me that the fans just disabled their ability to think critically for this show. It absolutely baffles me, because Star Wars fans are usually very much critical and negative over the content that Disney shits out. Even the stuff that I personally believe to be really good (The Bad Batch). Here, everyone seems to have turned into a brainless consumer, whose brain only activates when he sees a familiar thing or Vader doing some evil and powerful stuff. I don’t know. I just can’t see why people say this show is good or “the best Star Wars in a long time” or something to that effect. I would very much like to see something positive here, to enjoy this show. But I can’t. And it is very sad indeed.
I m thinking that A LOT of those comments are from fake accounts, because i can't believe ppl can be so idiot and blind to so lazy and bad products... Like have u seen on twitter? ALWAYS. THE. SAME. PATTERN in writing tweets with lots of "-" spoiler flags followed by so fake caps lock giggles and simperings. And i'm talking about english tweets as well as italian tweets and spanish ones and probably lots more languages
It's kind of telling that the best SW content we've gotten from Disney are their animated series. Bad Batch and Clone Wars season 7 are geniunely great and allow room for characters to grow and learn from their mistakes. The Bad Batch begins with 5 seemingly cliched soldier archetypes (The Brute, The Thinker, The Leader, The Skeptic and The Technician), but along the course of the episodes some of them do change and break out of that mold. The Leader acknowledges he isn't supposed to lead all the time, the Brute has some hidden depth and The Skeptic was right about some things he was suspicious of, but also lost touch with himself because of it. It's a great show and I'm actually looking forward to the next season. Clone Wars S7 did what Kenobi couldn't: trying out new things while also paying tribute to the source material and making everything fit neatly into canon. Why is it so hard for Live Action shows to do the same?
Disney Star Wars is driven by nostalgia, reminiscence and flashbacks. George Lucas never did any of this for his 6 movies, that's why they are better than Disney Star Wars. Disney Star Wars has easy plots and dumb down dialogue so Americans can follow it. As seen in ALL Disney Star Wars from movies 7,8,9, Mando, TBOBF and OWK.
@@TheLittlePlatoon All money no talent. I'm starting to wonder if they ever started to sit and watch the full episodes in the editing room since TBoBF.
One question I have is, albeit a rhetorical one, who tf approves the scripts on these shows. I mean who looks at the scripts and just has an instant eyegasm und says ''that's it, f**kin nailed it boys'' The Little Platoon, your reviews is how I honestly feel about the current direction writing is headed, for that matter what is has become... a cesspool of clueless writers
there is still very good tv and film writers out there. the trouble seems to be more a disney problem they cant get the good writers or keep the good writers on their books for whatever reason. my guess is there is not enough creative freedom at disney. everything will be done according to a checklist. does so and so show allow new toy and themepark merchandise?? check. is so and so show diverse and reflect a narrative that is in line with our claimed corporate progressive pandering? check and probably a 100 more things and when its all done their is little room left for writers to operate. disney would have always been better off to go out and find their own peter jackson give him a wad of cash and say go make your own trilogy in new zealand from day one of its ownership.
Bail Organa is the main antagonist of the series. Edit: Also, how did the thermal detonator not at least hurt Reva? She was backing away, but she definitely wasn't far enough away for it to do no damage to her. Second Edit: Also, how does Reva survive being stabbed in the chest in the Jedi temple? She says she played dead but for all intents and purposes she should have actually been dead. If characters in star wars don't die when they are stabbed with a lightsabre, then the weapon is fundamentally cheapened as it no longer actually does its job.
better question, how is it acceptable from a writing standpoint, that the Inquisitor and Vader leave Reva alive...purposely...when the whole reason for the Inquisitors' existence is to either kill or convert force sensitives? I understand it's a parallel to the retcon'd flashback, but poetic irony is not an excuse for utter implausibility. just. ... I don't have the words. are they saving her for her own series? jfc. tell me that's not what this is about....
@@daneg The only thing consistent about Disney star wars is the inconsistent characters. One minute they say this, the next they do that. I've given up hope that they will act normally a long time ago.
Firstly, a light saber cauterizes the wound it makes so you wouldn't bleed out, and secondly, one lightsaber stab might hit vital organs, another might not, wounds aren't all identical.
Why couldn't Vader sense Obi-Wan on the other ship? He sensed him in the mining town and on the Death Star in A New Hope. He could sense Luke after the Falcon had escaped Bespin and was God only knows what distance away from him.
Obi-Wan was sitting in a direct line from Vader, with the bait ship exactly in between. The force works like a Skyrim compass arrow, and Obi-Wan is a bit of a hacker who exploited the mechanic.
How can Storm Troopers drown? I thought their armour was usable in space? in the original trilogy you can see them walking around outside of the Death Star. does it not work in water? o_O
Yup. Pointed out in our last video that Boba Fett survives the Sarlacc pit in TBoBF by hooking into a storm trooper’s breathing apparatus. These people can’t keep continuity with their own shows, never mind the rest.
So Reva has been hunting Vader for killing her friends and in the process she’s been doing the exact thing shes hunting him for. The show is trying to redeem her by saying well she was really good this whole time but I don’t think it works because there isn’t much to bring the audience to that conclusion prior to Ep5. Also you’d think someone who had to watch other kids die when she herself was a kid would be more reluctant to harming kids.
I mean, she sorta was hesitant in hurting Leia but she WAS gonna do it. And for no reason too, if she really wanted Vader. She knows Obi-Wan is gonna come back for Leia, that was the whole point in taking her in the first place. There’s no reason for her to be so obsessed with the Path.
Be honest here guys, Reva was interrogating a 10 years old child, who lived all her life on Alderan, in a palace, about an intergalactic human smuggling operation. Like what, how is she supposed to know anything about that?!
Someone who has the experience of seeing other people murdered in front of them is so psychologically messed up by the experience that they have about a 1% chance of growing up to be "normal". The fact that we're supposed to believe that Reva is a normal functioning person after watching her entire family be murdered and then being stabbed herself is a joke.
@@joshuawiedenbeck6944 While it might be "realistic", that's such a lazy and ultimately boring way to write a character. It would be much better to have the traumatic event be related to how a character is dysfunctional, not just using trauma to excuse a characters motives not making sense. The trauma here doesn't tie into her illogical actions apart from the vague revenge motivation against Vader and by extension Obi Wan. Sure, the rage blinding her judgement could be a reason but it's such a boring one. A positive example of a trauma making someone dysfunctional would be the Joker (perhaps not all incarnations). His trauma informs how he acts, and better explains the often convoluted and nonsensical plans he makes.
Darth Vader: Level 80 Dragonborn with double-enchants on his daedric armour. Literally just forced flying dragon back down to earth and ripped out it's soul Reva: Level 5 Bandit, about to mugg him. I really started to get used to the character, but then they decided to flush her brain in this fight. It looks cool and he deletes her as expected. By the time Obi-Wan was gone, she should have really known better, to not yeet herself.
I rly appreciate how grounded and neutral you absolutely destroy the terrible writing of the show. Not by getting loud and screaming and throwin insults around, but by carefully completely and utterly taking apart the absurdness of the show.
Well, there might be the occasional insult… but generally, yeah. I’ve always preferred UA-cam reviewers who actually take the time to explain why bad is bad (as opposed to pointing at it and saying: “this is bad”). I take the view that, whenever you’re lucky enough to get a fairly large audience for your videos, there’s likely to be a good chunk of them who like or want to try writing their own stories. So attempting to set out what constitutes good and bad scene construction actually has a positive use as well as a negative one, in that it might help people avoid some of the mistakes made in shows like this. I was much more keenly aware of the technique involved when writing my own book because I’d watched MauLer dissecting various things, for example.
At 15:10 - someone may have already spotted this- it looks like the Slave 1 was drawn on the side of the ship. Maybe it's their advertising agency, "Slovotta Space - where the future is OUR future" 😆 🤣
I was a 33W routinely climbing into systems and machines and I can say if I just got into those wire vents like baby Lea 33:08 I wouldn't have a feckin clue what I was doing.
Watching you since like 2 weeks nows. And I absolutly love you. Youve grown to be one of my favourite commentary channels and I would love to see you on Efap. Keep up the great work.
Honestly, Vader being able to pull down a massive spaceship in flight bothered me a lot. Mostly because we never see him do anything of this level in the OT or the prequels. If he's that powerful, he wouldnt need a lightsabre at all. The OT and even the prequels put sensible limits on what the Force could achieve, so that Jedi didnt come across as invincible and some sense of tension could be maintained. For Yoda to lift Luke's X wing was a massive effory and he was ostensibly the most experienced and powerful jedi - on a level comparable to Palpatine, who is probably the most powerful force user - well, except maybe you know who.... but anyway, for me that was too much of a stretch.
Agreed, it looks cool, and plays only to people's blinded love for darth vader, nothing about this show, has been anywhere remotely close to Lucas's two trilogies
They just have no conception of subtlety. They’d rather take the easy route of making the force seem like Harry Potter magic, rather than having it operate within strict limits and confines.
@@LordSluggo So what ? Does Vader do anything like that in Star Wars ANH, ESB or ROTJ? If you think about the physics of that feat Vader could literally have knocked the Rebels' snowspeeders out of the air with a wave of his hand in ESB. Why can he perform such feats before ANH but never does so after? Easy, because Lucas knew that making Vader too powerful meant that the heroes defeating him would become unbelievable. This undermines the only truly great parts of Star Wars.
Stormtrooper armor allows them to breath in space. We saw this at the end of Rouge one where vader, who's suit is also sealed and can be in space, stand in the open watching the tantine leave. So, if their suit are sealed, we know it's sealed and they've shown us it can survive sealed environments...why do they drown? Obi-Wan can swim, without gear, to those depths and suffer no physical pain. So it's not the pressure. Why would Strom troopers die? Oh yeah because the cultist don't care about stormtrooper and only defend awful writing
How about this as a alternative idea..... The show revolves around ObiWan on Tatioone watching over Luke and helping him/saving him in situations but from afar (using his Force powers) but also cuts between a parallel story of the Empire, Inquisitors and Vader hunting down surviving Jedi. We are introduced to a small collection of those Jedi, which Reva is one running from the Empire. During the course of the show Reva's and ObiWan's path cross and their is a danger that The Empire will find ObiWan and Luke, where upon Reva and the other Jedi succeed in drawing the Empire away from them at the last minute/episode but dying in the process to the over whelming powers of Vader and the Inquisitiors. We could even have a little cameo on Alderaan and see a small glimpse of little Leia. We get cool scenes of Vader and the Inquisitors hunting Jedi, ObiWan using the Force, new Characters such as Reva who we route for, flash backs of the prequels and new scenes with Padawan Anakin, a glimpse of little Leia and younger Luke and all without breaking canon.
It's almost like giving this show's script half an hour more of thought would've led to a better outcome. Even if that extra half hour of brainstorming and scrapping and reworking was done by a busload of cracked out chimps.
Your reviews of this show are consistently hilarious. It feels like catching the writers red handed digging around in trash and lighting them up with a spotlight for the fiends they are. Honestly, what the hell were they thinking having Vader say he knew all along after stabbing Reva? This is just hilarious. It's like they think, 'hmm, what line would have some emotional impact?' with no regard whatsoever for the character, or their past or future actions. Having Vader say that just made me laugh out loud, like what the fuck has he been doing if he knew all along? Like you say, his entire string of actions this season now look utterly retarded, if he knew all along. Or the only other option I can think of is he lied compulsively on the spot, not wanting to let Reva think she got the better of him, despite in fact not knowing. In that case Vader would be an insecure compulsive liar, which also doesn't fit his character but actually makes more sense for the plot than the other explanation....Fucking hell what is this show.
Vader knowing that she hates him actually makes sense. Vader was using her drive to get close to him so that she would work harder at catching and killing Jedi. He knew she would do anything to kill him, so letting her chase down kenobi instead of him was smart. Vaders manipulation fits perfectly, sith will use anyone or anything to get what they want. So when Vader realizes she was tricked by kenobi and she tries to kill him he toys with her make her feel weak than kills her. Every thing he does fits his character perfectly
So I'm probably not the first to say this but this show absolutely sucks....it reminds me of a cheap fan fiction written by someone who only watched the movies once decades ago. As for the visual and production it's seems like just tossed together. To see the people who think this is doing the story justice makes me sick.
the line where Reva said "you have no idea waht I've done" was the best part of the show. It played on the "too far gone" archetype we've seen on The Last of Us I, or The Walking Dead, or Darth Vader himself...but then, it meant nothing, she just became good inmediatly
Thank you so much for putting these insufferable disney apologetics back in their place! I cannot even describe the rage I feel everytime I see some idiot of whom I know exactly he doesnt know anything about Star Wars trying to excuse horrible writing by either saying the critique is politically motivated or by stating Star Wars were to have always have been that way. 😠😠😠 It drives me mad.
Did the job advert for the writers go like this? “Are you lazy? Are you unfamiliar with pre Disney Star Wars? Do you want to make a 10 year old be really annoying? Are you good at making plot holes very big? If so we need you now. If you can be bothered that is”
Am I supposed to believe now that space Moses is going to redeem herself and turn to the light side! She was an asshole, arrogant, violent, reckless and controlling in previous episodes, she showed no signs in her character of being caring, regretfully, apologetic, compassionate or kind. You can't expect an audience to believe that she is a good character now just because. ..
I just recently started watching your videos, and I must say that I love them. I don't know if you already said this, but one nitpick I have for this show is the amount of time "Space Moses" was in contact with the dark side and their ideals of changing and shaping the force. Why doesn't she have any physical defects? I love the videos. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for putting what many of us are feeling into words. Much more thought out, and more enjoyable than the actual material being critiqued... unfortunately.
Thank you for this. You hit every single point I hated in this episode. I was literally yelling at the TV when Reva cut through the door and a hundred bloody stormtroopers couldn't hit a single rebel. Even with Obi-Wan blocking shots, that fight should have been over in about 5 seconds, with all the rebels and Obi-Wan lying in smoking heaps on the ground. And what was Reva doing during this assault? HIDING BEHIND THE STORMTROOPERS WITH HER DRAWN LIGHTSABER, NOT BLOCKING A SINGLE SHOT. Why? Why, Disney?
Glad someone is finally saying it. The echo chamber of Twitter keeps telling writers they are god like. The show is trash, baby leia is the only saving grace. Barely.
I say the disney staff had their little children write or at least come up with these stories. They probably told the children " Now you can tell all of your little friends at school that you write for Star Wars! Wouldn't that be fun"?
Absolutely your bestest vidyo evar! I was more intrigued and entertained by this entry, than all of Obi-Wan Kan'tobi, Picard and Discovery combined. Absolute genius. And furthermore if I were not already subscribed beforehand, this entry would have been the reason for me to do so!
A bit late to the video, but at 26:26 when you talk about Force users sensing if people are alive, that reminded me of in a new hope when senses millions of people cried out and vanished on alderon (idk how to spell it) also in the flash back he’s literally looking at her right infront of her, did she like manage to run away then play dead?
I'll save everyone a lot of time with this series. The writers sat down on day one to plan out what the story was going to be and what high points to include. They quickly ran into a lot of rules that made the writing harder (we can't do that, because jedi can sense living things, etc.). They then decided that it was too much work to write stories that held true to the established rules so they decided to conpletely ignore them because Disney was still going to make money anyways.
written by hstickhstick 4 days ago (edited) This for me is the ultimate show of “why?!”. Some real good ones in this episode: 1. Why does Bail give away all the secret details of everything, including the fact that Vader’s kids are alive and where they are in a recording literally anyone could find? 2. Why send a 10 year old to fix complicated electronics she couldn’t possibly understand? 3. Why is Kenobi ok with that and her potentially being electrocuted and killed? 4. Why, if there’s no one small enough to fit in the vents, are there electronics in there in the first place? How are they maintained? 5. Why does AOTC era Anakin look about 45 years old? 6. Why does Reva order the doors to be blown up when she can easily cut through with a lightsaber? 7. Why does Reva know that it’s Anakin in the Vader suit? All she knows is Anakin went rogue, not that he became Vader. 8. Why doesn’t Vader just stop the 2nd ship from escaping also? 9. Why does Reva let Obi Wan escape? The plan seemed to be “kill Vader while he’s distracted with me” meaning they will fight, but then he just runs away again. Wouldn’t it make more sense if Kenobi and Vader fought, then Reva took her chance to kill Vader then? That would have also given the ship time to escape 10. Why doesn’t Reva attack Vader while he’s busy pulling the ship back? 11. Why did they say there’s only 1 ship when there’s actually 2? 12. Why was the tracker or whatever suddenly able to reprogram the droid to do something very specific? (Adding more now) 13. Why didn’t Kenobi just force pull that woman to safety? In the last ep he was holding back metric tons of water pressure 14. Why didn’t she throw the thermal detonator over the heads and behind the troopers? That would likely have killed a bunch of them and she was protected by the droid. Yes I know she was shot, but as we’ve seen in this show serious injuries are something you can just walk off 15. Why didn’t Vader kill Reva? He didn’t even take her lightsaber. Must have read that rumour from Disney about the potential Reva spin off 16. Why did Kenobi call it “Order 66”? He must have watched Revenge of the Sith That’s just off the top of my head.
Never seen your channel before, 2 minutes in im subbed. Incredibly annoying to see such potential get absolutely destroyed by terrible writing and a mindless “fan”base
Still have not brought myself to watch yet. However, this channel is just excellent. Keep it up my friend. I hope you are around a LONG time. Feel better.✌️🇺🇸
I don't know. You sense someone. You enter the hanger and a space ship is taking off trying to escape. Most people would think that's the space ship with the people fleeing on it. But hey, let's concentrate on that other one pretending to be dead instead.
i would rather see hayden with makeup on to make him look younger than a deep faked de-aged anakin, got to look at what anakin was feeling with just his facial expressions than a bland computer generated face
9:49 The sheer fact that these shows and movies are causing a substantial number of people to ask if things make sense every few shots shows that something is very wrong with the filmmaking. Most shots and dialogue lines should be giving audiences enough examples of intelligence to cover for less obvious lapses and mistakes. I never noticed the car in Fellowship of the Ring and I never realized that hyperspace could never work as described even with faster than light technologies. That is because the scripts and cinematography of these movies made sense most of the time. Made sense in scenes that were also subjectively appealing I should add.
The Devastator should have no problem running down a transport ship at sublight. An ISD-I is way faster at sublight than a civilian transport ship. And even if it wasn't, it carries 6 squadrons of TIES that most definitely are faster than a civilian transport, let alone all the support craft - shuttles, assault transports, etc - that it does carry. Not being able to go to hyperspace with an ISD-I on your butt is death... Even the Falcon, a YT-1300, a ship that is notoriously quick even at sublight, wasn't necessarily faster than an ISD at sublight speeds...
Now this is a person with actual knowledge Bravo they shit on the whole plot with that in all the original star wars movies the rebels were constantly being chased and their only reprieve was hyperspace
it's beyond me how Lucas didn't get more money to make big fur suits for the Wookies in episode 6. And instead of mighty wookies taking down the empire we got mini wookies
In Fallen Order, it's actually the very fact that not even Darth Vader can just do ANYTHING with the force at any time forever no matter who he's fighting, that allows Cal to escape with his life. Vader knocks Cere away and uses his LIGHTSABER to easily block the much less skilled Cal. He grabs him with the force, but then Cal can pull a large object at Vader from behind, forcing him to counter that which divides HIS attention and power, where Cal is still focused entirely on Vader. Knowing this position is less advantageous, even possibly dangerous, he tosses Cal away and just starts ripping things up from the area to assault him with. (It's only if Cal just stands around doing nothing that Vader has a chance to kill him with a force choke. It's basically like a suicide.) This allows Cal a chance to book it, and once he's in the elevator he gets away until Vader follows later. Yadda yadda he doesn't really do a ton with the force for a bit because he senses the dark side in Cere and he wants to encourage her to use it, while still demonstrating "Hey, you can slow me, you can't stop me. Not like this." Cal, having a breathing apparatus, smashes open the glass keeping the water out, and this forces Vader to focus entirely on the water to push it back and keep it from flooding the part of the base he's in. This allows Cal to grab Cere and escape. Cal is MUCH weaker than Vader, as he should be he hadn't even USED the force since Order 66, where Vader has been training constantly. Fighting Vader, even 2 on 1, is CERTAIN death. However, because Cal can use the force, Vader cannot just insa-kill him with a thought like he totally could and HAS with normal people. With this leveling of the playing field and some clever strategy, Cal can escape a much more powerful foe. In order for this scene between space moses and Darth Mickey to make sense, she would have to be about as strong in the force as she was as a youngling.
This show is just a massive cash grab milking nostalgia fuckfest of terrible writing, and continuity errors, and i will never feel bad for pirating every episode
Wtf even gave her the idea that she could lay a finger on a sith lord, like what's even special about her , a lot of jedi went through order 66 so that's not it, she's not been shown to be particularly good at lightsaber combat or any good with the force , she does have a special force power that allows her to read minds/extract information (which a lot of force users have) but it's been shown to rarely work so she's not good at that either , she was granted the title of grand inquisitor but didn't really do anything to deserve it, like at what point does she think "i could get my revenge? if only i could get close enough" and at what point are we supposed to think that as well?
As with everything made under KK, somehow this show manages to take even a harmless flashback and corrupt it into something so on the nose it almost makes the things we have already learned/seen about the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin (done better) feel less interesting than it used to be. Bravo.
This was a really well put together and thought out video. I hate this show. It’s so god awful and I don’t understand how anyone said yes to this trash. Keep up the good work! 👍
Disney Star Wars is driven by nostalgia, reminiscence and flashbacks. George Lucas never did any of this for his 6 movies, that's why they are better than Disney Star Wars. Disney Star Wars has easy plots and dumb down dialogue so Americans can follow it. As seen in ALL Disney Star Wars from movies 7,8,9, Mando, TBOBF and OWK.
@@darrellpowell6042 You condemned the shows as being dumbed down despite them being important to the contexts of the story like with the flashbacks (Seriously why would you think the Obi Wan flashback was a bad thing when it was something even non DSW fans wanted to see again?). Lucas had done nostalgia based stuff in Star Wars with the prequels and the parallels it had with the OT.
The quality of this channel and its content stands head and shoulders above the vast, vast majority of UA-cam cultural media commentators. I wish you lads the absolute world going forward. If the world is a fair place - and I'm not convinced it is - the depth and intellect you bring to the table ought propel you over the god damn ramparts and into the elite echelons of those attempting to save culture from full-on self-immolation.
Things Disney doesn’t understand about Star Wars.
1. The Stars (I feel like we’ve been stuck on a desert planet of some variation for every single movie/show.
2. The Wars (never do we ever have a sense of any factions/allegiances outside of First Order empire bad and good guys good with no nuance to the conflict) remember the prequels giving us actual context to the conflict? Too boring I guess.
3. Lightsabers (they don’t dismember, can somehow strike non lethal blows, and the new props must be heavy as fuck because they def don’t look like “light” sabers anymore.
4. The Force (they have no sense of what it is, how it scales, and how to balance it logically. It’s more a plot device than a power of the Jedi/Sith now. A get out of jail free card for bad writing.
5. Jedi/Sith (so you’re telling me that 30 years after the OT the force and it’s users are now stuff of legend? That’s like saying Vietnam is a fairytale in 2022. Also Jedis are known for stoicism, discipline, and unbreakable will, but Rey screams and yells all the time and fights purely with emotion.)
6. How to write a decent story
Well said.
I could rebut all of these, but I'm going to pick on #5 because it's the easiest. 20 years after Order 66, Luke had no idea what the Force was. Rey had heard some stuff, but wasn't sure if it was true or not. The Emperor was a master of propaganda and scapegoating. Ask a 20-year-old today what they know about Vietnam, or pick a more current event, they won't know shit. And they have all that information at their fingertips via their cellphone.
I'm not saying this show is perfect. But since I like Star Wars, I'm willing to look for the stuff I like and let the other stuff slide. I don't have to watch it or even like it. But I think it would be pretty shitty of me to tell another Star Wars fan not to watch it because it sucks when there are literally thousands and thousands that love it. Thinking you know better than everyone else is narcissistic behavior. It's Trumpian. Let folks make up their own minds - hey, maybe they know what they like better than you do. Don't be the guy who sees a dude eating his lunch and enjoying it and then telling him it looks gross and smells funny. Don't be the guy who tells his friend who is in love that his girlfriend is ugly. Live and let live. I had to learn that myself and still have to catch myself from time to time.
@@B-a-t-m-a-n “trumpian” “but since I like Star Wars I’m willing to let the other stuff slide” and the whole second paragraph is just a straw man.
Let me retort. Ask any well educated 20-30 year old about Vietnam and they will be able to give you a general summary of the conflict. We all took American history, whether you paid attention or not is on you, palpatine is a master of prolog and a and misdirection yes, but to completely wipe an event as major as a galactic war from multiple populations of planets minds in such a short time is illogical, especially when people that were alive during the even would still logically be around in the present. As far as the quotes I took from your statement, I’m not really going to address “trumpian” because that’s just a stupid buzzword I’m not falling for, and then the second quote is the precise mentality of why Disney Star Wars is so shit. Stop forgiving mediocrity, especially since it isn’t Disney’s original IP they have no right to go in and fuck it up to this degree, they should feel lucky they have the privilege to produce media with the Star Wars name on it, but instead they use it as a platform to throw political hissy fits on Twitter when they face real criticism for their shit product. They had an entire EU that they scrapped for 3 shows based on old characters played by the same old tired actors and keeping the universe to what seems to be a population of 150 people. And it’s not just Star Wars they are ruining either, it’s marvel too. You should be sick of the shit too, look at Fallen Order, how great it was, because Disney had nothing to do with it, it wasn’t infested with out of place looking actors, cheap budgets, and lame ass writing because the people who
Made it clearly care about the property, while Disney sees it as their own personal money cow to keep feeding the general audience member berry soup that they don’t want anymore. The ratings show it. Disney are the narcissists pal, not me.
You forgot one, “space” & basic concepts like electronics , engineering, physics, etc.
Yes, this comes out of a plot contrivance,they want the smuggling operation to be discovered,and more people to increase stakes, but they throw on an explanation that’s just ridiculous.
They have a ship, and for some reason, blah, blah trade routes, they’ve been waiting 2 months to leave?
What?
Travel in Star Wars was pretty simple, it functioned solely to get characters from A to B, until Rian Johnson showed up and broke Star Wars in every way imaginable, to have his ridiculously contrived plot, so now when, and only when, the writers need it to happen, suddenly travel in Star Wars becomes super complicated, has fuel issues, and either mirrors Sea travel or our current real world level of technology, where we need launch windows and distances are huge in our solar system, etc.
Now the hyperspace is broke?
How much do you want to bet, that the writers will have no understanding of what that actually means?
They might as well return to the planet to fix it, or it’s going to take thousands of years to get anywhere!
Like the plot hole in Last Jedi, when the slow chase started, they would have had to come out of hyperspace right next to “Not Hoth”, to arrive there in 10-20 hours, it would be obvious that was where they were going, because it was the ONLY place they could reach, not using hyperspace, so they couldn’t have ever planned to “sneak down” to the planet, it’s moronic.
Daisy Ridley's plays emotional intensity into her acting so much that Rey is basically a darksider user.
Reva’s story should have been that she was the least of the inquisitors because she had yet to capture/kill a Jedi. Maybe she has actually been secretly allowing Jedi/Force users to get away as she comes upon them, but now because of her failure among their ranks she is about to be removed from the rank of inquisitor. She could then have an internal conflict of seeing her opportunity to reach Vader slipping away and the need to do things she is opposed to in order carry on the charade and move up the ranks. The stress of the situation could then be attributed to her obsession with Obi-Wan, knowing that he is the only prize that would garner Vader’s attention. There is a hundred different ways her character could have been developed to make her a good character
Now that’s a show I’d like to see! You’re right. The problem isn’t that there was no way for her character to be good, it’s that they completely wasted the chance to make her good,
My sons and I would've MUCH rather had an Inquisitors show/series. I never wanted to see anything involving Kenobi, because I knew they'd break him down and destroy canon along with it (though I didn't think it'd be to this extent). They could've had Reva be the star. They would've had to have Vader in it. But not Kenobi. It still would've been bad (experience tells us), but Obi-Wan/Luke and Leia would've remained safe (from Disney SJW). They could've even had Ewan McGregor pop up in one episode where the Inquisitors show up on Tatooine, but he remains in the shadows while they chase down a false lead or something. ANYthing else but this. Oh well.
@@TheLittlePlatoon They made Vader good at the end of it all. VADER. Pretty sure they can still pull that off with Reva if that's the direction this is going.
@@elaguajdo break canon to this extent? How did they break canon?
SEE, two seconds of thought and you made a better story than all of jish disney.
Someone tried convincing me on another video comments that Leia being an expert in electronics and wiring at 10 is fine because Aniken was building and racing pod racers at 10. They tried claiming that Ani's skill was no more earned than Leia's. I pointed out when he was introduced he was working in a junk shop repairing droids and pod racers. I didn't hear back after that.
Modern Star Wars was (largely) made by people who hate Star Wars, for people who hate Star Wars.
What an absolutely pointless argument/discussion to even have. It's all made up for goodness sake.
@@Kiwi-Ahh-Nah So is religion, and do you know how many wars were, and still are, fought in its name?
Wouldn't it be more logical to argue that because of an inherited talent (like Luke and flying) that shed been drawn to it as a hobby and learning how to do it since a young age? Not that they both magically had mechanic powers? Ones plausible, the others not how anything works
@@bloodyneptune A bit of a necro. But ok, talents aren't inherited. Not plausable at all. Aniken was shown working in a repair shop. not sure how that's 'magical'. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Both Luke and Anikin grew up around a culture of pod racing and mechanical prowess. Well, Aniken less so arguably, but still. Leia grew up in the lap of luxury, so to speak, compared to Luke and certainly compared to Aniken.
Vader was moments away from killing Reva last episode for letting Obi Wan get away a second time... but when Reva lets Obi Wan get away a third time AND tries to kill Vader he...lets her live? Maybe he wanted her to suffer and die from her wounds but the grand inquisitor literally survived that exact same injury in the second episode...
the show is a mess
Clown music time
You do realize he knew Reva was trying to kill him the ENTIRE time she was an inquisitor right? He let her live because he was using her the whole time. It was all part of his manipulation….
@@tehCostHD why would he let her live when he was done with her?
@@DistantKingdom now that, I don’t have an answer for. Maybe he genuinely thought she would die
@@tehCostHD And what is the reason for letting her live now? Because he cannot be bothered to finish her off? Some contrived nonsens of him somehow knowing where she is going to go next and wanting to use her to draw out Obi-Wan again?
I tell ya, when Reva started fighting Vader I got nervous because I have no doubt that there was at least one draft where Reva would defeat Vader. At least they were just self aware enough to not let that happen. I would have broken my iPad
That scenario would have reva decapitate Vader and emperor would reattach Vader’s head back on his body, creating the Omni potent freak who traumatized a generation
I honestly think Disney are softening everyone up to redo the original trilogy.
I fear they still might do that - unfortunatly they are not done yet...
lol same. when it started I was like... here we go....
FEEL THE POWAH OF THE WOKE SIDE WYBOI
A staple of OT Star Wars (and even the prequels to some extent) was its rewatchability. Almost nothing Disney has produced is still being talked about. They’ve left no legacy at all. Hilariously, UA-cam videos dissecting the garbage that was the sequel trilogy are what’s keeping the memory of those films alive.
It's just "content" for contents sake. Watch it, quickly forget it and move on to the next piece of crap. They have so many shows announced and each one will be just as stupid and lazy as the last.
@Mike Tocci I call it laziness on your end.
Exactly, i have rewatched the OT ad prequels (more so these) countless times. Infact games too i have played older star wars games more times than newer ones
@@miketocci don't ask questions just consume product
@@josephhughes2429 See you when Jedi Survivor releases.
I'm glad at least some other people dislike this show. Seeing so many fans simping for Disney every time the show is criticized has really been making me cynical about the future of media. A rumoured budget of $20-$25 million an episode and it somehow looks, feels, and is written like a rushed, budget sci-fi show from 20 years ago. And one that would've been quickly cancelled, no less.
It really is a lowering of the bar. The future does indeed look bleak if people are willing to except such bottom of the barrel trash and even try to defend it as anything besides just plain stupid.
@@miketocci They're all fluoride drinkers.
I'm really shocked at the people IRL and on UA-cam who are swallowing this tripe- the most famous (for many) being Red Letter Media. The channel that was built on dissecting how wrong the Prequels got Star Wars and continued on to call out stuff like Rogue One somehow gives a pass to crap like Solo and now this!? It really makes my head spin.
@@tylerskiss I think, as far as Red Letter Media goes, that they just like to say the opposite of everyone else. I've really started to like then less and less recently. They seem to want to be ironic and oh-so-hip with their movie opinions but they often come off as snobs and celebrity brown nosers.
@@miketocci I think you're on to something here. I know they love to take the piss out of things most fans want them to review, like The Batman, and while I find it amusing, they do love to take a funny joke and just run it into the ground over and over and over and over... like an ATV wheel driving over a stuntman's head.
I'm pretty sure when they do get to reviewing those things, you're right, they are almost always saying the opposite of what you would expect... I noticed that with Mike a lot. He will always claim he loves crap that, if you follow the logic presented in the Plinkett reviews, he should absolutely despise.
Iv been trying to write a book for years and what frustrates me is people dont realize storytelling is art draped over a structure of science. The goal is not to intoxicate the audience with memberberries but to manipulate their emotions to something specific. If a scene is intended to scare then it is a success when people are scared. If that scene just makes people laugh, such an unintended consequence just makes it a failure - an example of bad storytelling/writing/directing etc..
So you've realized it isn't easy and you can't do it either or it would be done, right?
@@B-a-t-m-a-nWhat? What are you even saying?
@@GuyInASuit1653 pass me your crayons and I'll draw you a picture
I'm sorry. I can't. I just can't. Bail Organa did the equivalent of leaving A PHONE MESSAGE - a message that ANYONE CAN "READ" - that spills the beans on Luke? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Nothing in this episode or series has been more galling to me than that...and there's a lot of WTF did I just see? before this.
The Stormtrooper banging his head was a mistake, a blooper, the actor couldn't see in the helmet enough to see the door was still in his way. It was a production mistake that got left in and later during the Special edition George Lucas added the "bonk" sound effect, as a way to laugh at his own mistake for not catching it and redoing that scene.
so any camp in Star Wars was unintentional, a rather inexperienced film maker doing the best he can.
this crap in Obi-wan is done on purpose.
Yes and in episode two jango fett bangs his head in a similar manner, and the storm troopers were clones still .
@@shanenolan8252 No actually he doesn't. if you look close he ducks under Slave 1's door just in time.
but I get your point its almost like wearing a full face helmet limits your vertical peripheral vision.
and by the time of a New Hope there were very little clones left. Stormtroopers for the most part were normal Imperial Citizens.
@@kizunadragon9 well i believe it was 20 percent clone, and Vader used the best of them , stormtroopers in a new hope were 501st legion . If you loook at the battlefront 501st journal shorts . Or the force unleashed books . And immediately after episode 3 palpatine started new clone programs, but with a variety of different clones, and they were allowed to grow naturally for a longer career, the trooper corp was established during the clone wars i think tarkin was involved. But regular citizens were in the army , navy and navy troops, intelligence, imperial security ect vader kept the jango clones. There were regular citizens and by the ot there were the majority, and there were other clone manufacturing facilities. Of lesser quality troops or pilots.
@@shanenolan8252 Gotta disagree with you there, the 501st were not in a New Hope, mostly because the 501st were not complete morons. Certainly not on Tatooine anyway.
None of the Troopers had the trademark insignias Like the blue stripe to honor their clone wars days or the red insignia.
@@kizunadragon9 George retconed it . He changed the voices added tamura Morrison. ( not in the original or the early special editions) and if you listen to the battlefront part its part of the story , 501st were ordered to let them escape and a significant number of the 501st was aboard the death star . ( vaders fist )
I think the most laughable excuse I saw for Leia knowing her way around electronics is Anakin knew how to build a droid when he was 9. He had skills therefore his daughter also has those skills except we have no set up to let us know she is mechanically inclined. WTF? Like you stated, where did these advanced mechanical skills repairing the Falcon or on Endor?
That's what they are _trying_ to allude, but Anakin at least had years of experience tinkering with electronics as implied by his job with Watto. Nothing is established as to how Leia knows her way around electronics. Also, how is she so talented with electronics, yet not ask anyone to cut the breakers on the machinery she's working on because, you know, high voltage electrocution?
Not only are her skills never established, but we don’t even remotely understand what the heck she’s supposed to be doing in that area, messing with cables. She is not seen repairing anything, she just seems to make her way through cables to eventually find some button… they obviously didn’t know how to sort out the escape and needed Leia to play some role in it…
The biggest problem with this show (that I have yet to see anyone mention) is that it shouldn’t have been an action show. Any kind of action created would have little to no stakes since we know Obi-Wan and Luke make it to a New Hope. Instead this should have been a series exploring the effects this period of Obi-WAN’s life had on his mental state. A war veteran who had to kill his own “brother” and now secretly guards his son in isolation on a wasteland planet has so much potential as an emotional story.
Or if there was action keep it to defending Luke, and even have some foreshadowing of Obi-Wan defending Luke from Tusken Raiders or something along those lines.
@@joshuaslawson9125 my thoughts exactly. The only kind of action we should be seeing is from denizens of Tatooine. Most likely Tuskens or criminals - maybe even a Krayt Dragon - but never an Imperial threat. I should be clear, these threats should serve the purpose of “developing” Ben’s relation with Luke, Owen, etc. or with any internal conflict he has regarding his circumstances. As soon as one of these action scenes’ core drive is to threaten the life of one of these characters, they would become devoid of tension or importance.
I'm not famous or anything so it doesn't matter, but IVE BEEN SAYING THIS. They missed the whole fucking point, and it is obnoxiously present in the last episode when the entire finale is built on the tension of "Will Reva kill Luke???" When she absolutely fucking won't. How the hell did that make it out of the writers room? And then they sprinkled Home Alone on top of it by having Owen and Beru set traps to fight off an inquisitor? Wtf.
I'm in a lot of writing workshops in college, and most of my teachers don't believe in critical workshops. We are making a push towards all positivity all the time. This is why that is bad. No one learns when they are writing out of their own asses.
@Blue Tinsley Well, college itself is already broken when it comes to actually teaching people skills/values. But that’s a whole other beastie of its own.
Also, hello fellow sufferer (am also attending a university), what degree are you pursuing? I myself am, Computer Science.
Exactly
24:40
He would have known that.
You see, Darth Vader is quite known name... And Obi-Wan already heard of Sidius calling Anakin Dath Vader in episode 3, in a hologram. You know, when he and Yoda were watching holograms, including Anakin killing younglings?
Another inconsistencies. They don't know their own lore!
After agreeing that Reva would strike at Vader while he was focused on Kenobi, Reva then waits until Vader has stopped focusing on Kenobi...and she SCREAMS at him. Wtf!?
How can Disney honestly expect us to feel anything but contempt for this character?
Kenobi has been neutered, Darth Vader has God like powers( but he's never used them before, for some reason?) And and of course the smartest and toughest characters and main focus of the "Kenobi" show are predictably - an 8 year old princess and a black women wearing bullet proof plot armor(shocking). The show itself seems to have been written by children. When will this tiresome political correct bullshit come to an end?😴
I agree, Maybe they hired their little nephews and little nieces to write these shows in an effort to save money! Hahahahahha. That HAS to be it.
I think you're right.👍
Really wished that the whole ship stopping scene took a lot more effort from Vader, maybe even cause the whole facility that they were in to begin collapsing because of his use of the force and then reva to try and kill him it could have been so much more intense and well executed.
The "ship scene" stood out as really odd to me too, It makes no sense in continuity, and as you say Vader could of seemed at least a little bit exhausted after literally displaying off the scale God like powers and abilities( for the first time?) Stopping and ripping a space ship apart with only his mind/the force. It's almost like a bunch of idiots wrote it.
The fact this thread is whining about Vader being powerful is nonsense.
Such a shame... they had so much potential and they failed to capitalize on all of it. Even the epic moments - like Vader force-grabbing the ship - were immediately subverted by the idiotic plot points; in ths case a second ship (what) that he completely gives up on. And they could be solved easily. For example what if Reva attempting to assassinate him in that moment distracts him enough for the ship to leave? Just one idea, but there were so many wasted opportunities.
Not even gonna get into how irritating (and stupid) it was to let her live after... /facepalm.
Absolutely. There was a lot of potential here. It started to have one or two good ideas. But, as usual, it squandered them.
@@TheLittlePlatoon 😭😭😭
@@AthanasiosLazarou letting her live(in my mind) is to pull her down in the darkside for good, using her need for revenge.
Letting the other ship go i guess is because Vader loves chasing his prey.
I really enjoyed this episode and im a die hard Oldschool star wars fan 😄
@Bear in general the force is all over the place in this show… I thought the scene was badass but I agree it’s a fine line and you have to be really careful when introducing possibly canon-breaking powers into what is essentially a bridge between two well established cinematic worlds.
You keep right on nitpicking, don't give in and say "It is what it is." I hear that so much nowadays, for a variety of reasons, as if it's a substitute for deep insight or philosophical analysis. I salute you for holding to a standard.
I say it’s stupid to do.
I really enjoyed this well thought out critique of Kenobi. Especially good was how the fight between Vader and the goofy lady was broken down and shown for Exactly what it is: STUPID. It's depressing how some people will defend this garbage saying things "Well, the Vader fight was cool at least", there by displaying either their own stupidity or at least self-delusion. It's sad how some are seemingly happy to have garbage served to them, never stopping to think about things like continuity or just plain making sense.
And why does vader using the force to toy with her not make sense? Yeah it was different but weve never seen vader at his rawest most powerful form. I loved the fight scene because he was toying with her the entire time saying she could never defeat him without actually saying it. Its soul crushing to know no matter how hard you try that you are no match for a sith lord.
Vader not using his lightsaber was to show that she could never beat Vader. Him toying with her was his way of showing her that she is nothing compared to him. Every single thing he does in the fight is to make her feel small and useless and show just how much better his is than her. Him toying with her in this way is also even more brutal once they reveal Vader was aware of her plans this whole time. And it’s a good way of showing how vaders power and skill compared to his inquisitors
So many great opportunities were thrown away by not just this episode, but the whole show. It's tragic to think people continue to say this is good and then get mad at individuals who express their opinions that it is not. I totally see where you are coming from and really appreciate the honest insight provided into a show I am sad to see has degenerated into such drivel. Keep up the good work!
Do what must be done Little Platoon
Do not hesitate, Show no mercy
Rip this episode a new one lol
Reviewing this show is about as close as one can get to carrying out Order 66 without actually murdering children.
@@TheLittlePlatoon That’s Sadly True… For all of the Future characters that we all grew to love. Thanks Disney 🫠
Your brain cells got Order 66’ed.
It beggars belief that they (allegedly) spend $25 million per episode on this burning pile of garbage.
Oh well, episode 6 will venture back to Burbank/err Tatooine to wrap it all up.
By a wild coincidence there’s actually a part of this video that makes exactly the same point re the budget, and how little we’re actually getting for that money.
The final part when Reva finds that transmitter of Bail Organa telling Obi things that he would never say because that would jeopardize himself, his family & Luke to the Empire.
And the fact that they couldn’t think how to get from episode 5 to episode 6, so they just had con artist drop this super-convenient, super-compromising McGuffin. Jesus Christ.
@@TheLittlePlatoon to conveniently land on space Moses’s lap.🤦♂️
@@mo_musashi_28 She practically landed on it after Vader penetrated her for the second time.
I cannot fathom why some people, STAR WARS FANS, really, unironically believe this episode to be the “bestest episode evar”, as you beautifully put it on the thumbnail. It seems to me that the fans just disabled their ability to think critically for this show. It absolutely baffles me, because Star Wars fans are usually very much critical and negative over the content that Disney shits out. Even the stuff that I personally believe to be really good (The Bad Batch). Here, everyone seems to have turned into a brainless consumer, whose brain only activates when he sees a familiar thing or Vader doing some evil and powerful stuff. I don’t know. I just can’t see why people say this show is good or “the best Star Wars in a long time” or something to that effect. I would very much like to see something positive here, to enjoy this show. But I can’t. And it is very sad indeed.
Because don’t ask questions, just consoom product and get excited for next products
Agree with everything you said, including the part about the Bad Batch.
I m thinking that A LOT of those comments are from fake accounts, because i can't believe ppl can be so idiot and blind to so lazy and bad products...
Like have u seen on twitter? ALWAYS. THE. SAME. PATTERN in writing tweets with lots of "-" spoiler flags followed by so fake caps lock giggles and simperings.
And i'm talking about english tweets as well as italian tweets and spanish ones and probably lots more languages
It's kind of telling that the best SW content we've gotten from Disney are their animated series. Bad Batch and Clone Wars season 7 are geniunely great and allow room for characters to grow and learn from their mistakes. The Bad Batch begins with 5 seemingly cliched soldier archetypes (The Brute, The Thinker, The Leader, The Skeptic and The Technician), but along the course of the episodes some of them do change and break out of that mold. The Leader acknowledges he isn't supposed to lead all the time, the Brute has some hidden depth and The Skeptic was right about some things he was suspicious of, but also lost touch with himself because of it. It's a great show and I'm actually looking forward to the next season.
Clone Wars S7 did what Kenobi couldn't: trying out new things while also paying tribute to the source material and making everything fit neatly into canon. Why is it so hard for Live Action shows to do the same?
Disney Star Wars is driven by nostalgia, reminiscence and flashbacks. George Lucas never did any of this for his 6 movies, that's why they are better than Disney Star Wars.
Disney Star Wars has easy plots and dumb down dialogue so Americans can follow it. As seen in ALL Disney Star Wars from movies 7,8,9, Mando, TBOBF and OWK.
This episode made me feel sick figuratively.
Just like that cameraman trying to give us nausea.
It really is comical how the camera suddenly develops Parkinson’s as soon as the action starts.
@@TheLittlePlatoon All money no talent. I'm starting to wonder if they ever started to sit and watch the full episodes in the editing room since TBoBF.
One question I have is, albeit a rhetorical one, who tf approves the scripts on these shows. I mean who looks at the scripts and just has an instant eyegasm und says ''that's it, f**kin nailed it boys''
The Little Platoon, your reviews is how I honestly feel about the current direction writing is headed, for that matter what is has become... a cesspool of clueless writers
there is still very good tv and film writers out there. the trouble seems to be more a disney problem they cant get the good writers or keep the good writers on their books for whatever reason. my guess is there is not enough creative freedom at disney. everything will be done according to a checklist. does so and so show allow new toy and themepark merchandise?? check. is so and so show diverse and reflect a narrative that is in line with our claimed corporate progressive pandering? check and probably a 100 more things and when its all done their is little room left for writers to operate. disney would have always been better off to go out and find their own peter jackson give him a wad of cash and say go make your own trilogy in new zealand from day one of its ownership.
Bail Organa is the main antagonist of the series.
Edit: Also, how did the thermal detonator not at least hurt Reva? She was backing away, but she definitely wasn't far enough away for it to do no damage to her.
Second Edit: Also, how does Reva survive being stabbed in the chest in the Jedi temple? She says she played dead but for all intents and purposes she should have actually been dead. If characters in star wars don't die when they are stabbed with a lightsabre, then the weapon is fundamentally cheapened as it no longer actually does its job.
We've seen Qui-Gon die from a similar lightsaber to the gut, but somehow this broad lives on. Must be magical diversity infused healing powers.
better question, how is it acceptable from a writing standpoint, that the Inquisitor and Vader leave Reva alive...purposely...when the whole reason for the Inquisitors' existence is to either kill or convert force sensitives? I understand it's a parallel to the retcon'd flashback, but poetic irony is not an excuse for utter implausibility. just. ... I don't have the words. are they saving her for her own series? jfc. tell me that's not what this is about....
@@daneg The only thing consistent about Disney star wars is the inconsistent characters. One minute they say this, the next they do that. I've given up hope that they will act normally a long time ago.
I guess no one here understands how the dark side works.
Firstly, a light saber cauterizes the wound it makes so you wouldn't bleed out, and secondly, one lightsaber stab might hit vital organs, another might not, wounds aren't all identical.
Awfully ambitious of Disney to consider doing a second season of this bucket of pig vomit.
The next season will be a bucket of vulture vomit that was originally a bucket of pig vomit, before the vulture ate it.
this is far from a trash serie... Want to tell me what The book of boba fett is compared to this? THAT serie is complete garbage indeed.
Simpleton
@@anthonyarenas9613 says the village idiot that's amused by bright colours.
H.E. Pennypacker I think your brain cells are filled with pig vomit to say that garbage.
Why couldn't Vader sense Obi-Wan on the other ship? He sensed him in the mining town and on the Death Star in A New Hope. He could sense Luke after the Falcon had escaped Bespin and was God only knows what distance away from him.
Because the ship was in the way of his force powers obviously🤣
Obi-Wan was sitting in a direct line from Vader, with the bait ship exactly in between. The force works like a Skyrim compass arrow, and Obi-Wan is a bit of a hacker who exploited the mechanic.
How can Storm Troopers drown? I thought their armour was usable in space? in the original trilogy you can see them walking around outside of the Death Star. does it not work in water? o_O
Yup. Pointed out in our last video that Boba Fett survives the Sarlacc pit in TBoBF by hooking into a storm trooper’s breathing apparatus. These people can’t keep continuity with their own shows, never mind the rest.
Original trilogy? These writers never even saw it!
Well they’re not Water Troopers. Do you expect a Marine to dive in the water and be just as good as a diver for the Navy?
@@achaudhari101 marines are part of the navy but I understand what you are saying
So Reva has been hunting Vader for killing her friends and in the process she’s been doing the exact thing shes hunting him for.
The show is trying to redeem her by saying well she was really good this whole time but I don’t think it works because there isn’t much to bring the audience to that conclusion prior to Ep5.
Also you’d think someone who had to watch other kids die when she herself was a kid would be more reluctant to harming kids.
I mean, she sorta was hesitant in hurting Leia but she WAS gonna do it. And for no reason too, if she really wanted Vader.
She knows Obi-Wan is gonna come back for Leia, that was the whole point in taking her in the first place. There’s no reason for her to be so obsessed with the Path.
Be honest here guys, Reva was interrogating a 10 years old child, who lived all her life on Alderan, in a palace, about an intergalactic human smuggling operation. Like what, how is she supposed to know anything about that?!
Someone who has the experience of seeing other people murdered in front of them is so psychologically messed up by the experience that they have about a 1% chance of growing up to be "normal". The fact that we're supposed to believe that Reva is a normal functioning person after watching her entire family be murdered and then being stabbed herself is a joke.
@@joshuawiedenbeck6944 While it might be "realistic", that's such a lazy and ultimately boring way to write a character. It would be much better to have the traumatic event be related to how a character is dysfunctional, not just using trauma to excuse a characters motives not making sense.
The trauma here doesn't tie into her illogical actions apart from the vague revenge motivation against Vader and by extension Obi Wan. Sure, the rage blinding her judgement could be a reason but it's such a boring one.
A positive example of a trauma making someone dysfunctional would be the Joker (perhaps not all incarnations). His trauma informs how he acts, and better explains the often convoluted and nonsensical plans he makes.
It's bad writing don't excuse it, it's just bad pure dog shit
Darth Vader: Level 80 Dragonborn with double-enchants on his daedric armour. Literally just forced flying dragon back down to earth and ripped out it's soul
Reva: Level 5 Bandit, about to mugg him.
I really started to get used to the character, but then they decided to flush her brain in this fight. It looks cool and he deletes her as expected.
By the time Obi-Wan was gone, she should have really known better, to not yeet herself.
"It doesn't make any sense" = the leitmotif of the show.
I rly appreciate how grounded and neutral you absolutely destroy the terrible writing of the show. Not by getting loud and screaming and throwin insults around, but by carefully completely and utterly taking apart the absurdness of the show.
Well, there might be the occasional insult… but generally, yeah.
I’ve always preferred UA-cam reviewers who actually take the time to explain why bad is bad (as opposed to pointing at it and saying: “this is bad”). I take the view that, whenever you’re lucky enough to get a fairly large audience for your videos, there’s likely to be a good chunk of them who like or want to try writing their own stories. So attempting to set out what constitutes good and bad scene construction actually has a positive use as well as a negative one, in that it might help people avoid some of the mistakes made in shows like this. I was much more keenly aware of the technique involved when writing my own book because I’d watched MauLer dissecting various things, for example.
At 15:10 - someone may have already spotted this- it looks like the Slave 1 was drawn on the side of the ship. Maybe it's their advertising agency, "Slovotta Space - where the future is OUR future" 😆 🤣
I was a 33W routinely climbing into systems and machines and I can say if I just got into those wire vents like baby Lea 33:08 I wouldn't have a feckin clue what I was doing.
I hate the trope in media nowadays where characters “train” while using lethal weapons/force
The Han Solo line in ANH is gold and it holds up brilliantly to this day.
"The people still defending Star Wars, know the least about Star Wars."
I couldn't agree more!
Obi Wan to Reva: We will beat him together.
Also Obi Wan: Ditches Reva and leaves her to fight Vader herself
"Those who run away, live to run away another day"
Jake Skybaggins
Watching you since like 2 weeks nows. And I absolutly love you. Youve grown to be one of my favourite commentary channels and I would love to see you on Efap. Keep up the great work.
Aww, very kind! Glad you found us. Yes, EFAP would be a dream come true. In the meantime, I’ll just keep plundering their lore for references.
Honestly, Vader being able to pull down a massive spaceship in flight bothered me a lot. Mostly because we never see him do anything of this level in the OT or the prequels. If he's that powerful, he wouldnt need a lightsabre at all. The OT and even the prequels put sensible limits on what the Force could achieve, so that Jedi didnt come across as invincible and some sense of tension could be maintained. For Yoda to lift Luke's X wing was a massive effory and he was ostensibly the most experienced and powerful jedi - on a level comparable to Palpatine, who is probably the most powerful force user - well, except maybe you know who.... but anyway, for me that was too much of a stretch.
Agreed, it looks cool, and plays only to people's blinded love for darth vader, nothing about this show, has been anywhere remotely close to Lucas's two trilogies
They just have no conception of subtlety. They’d rather take the easy route of making the force seem like Harry Potter magic, rather than having it operate within strict limits and confines.
It was a direct reference to the comics
@@LordSluggo So what ? Does Vader do anything like that in Star Wars ANH, ESB or ROTJ? If you think about the physics of that feat Vader could literally have knocked the Rebels' snowspeeders out of the air with a wave of his hand in ESB.
Why can he perform such feats before ANH but never does so after? Easy, because Lucas knew that making Vader too powerful meant that the heroes defeating him would become unbelievable. This undermines the only truly great parts of Star Wars.
That scene was from Force Unleashed... There's a part where you have to grab and move a star destroyer.
Stormtrooper armor allows them to breath in space. We saw this at the end of Rouge one where vader, who's suit is also sealed and can be in space, stand in the open watching the tantine leave. So, if their suit are sealed, we know it's sealed and they've shown us it can survive sealed environments...why do they drown? Obi-Wan can swim, without gear, to those depths and suffer no physical pain. So it's not the pressure. Why would Strom troopers die? Oh yeah because the cultist don't care about stormtrooper and only defend awful writing
How about this as a alternative idea..... The show revolves around ObiWan on Tatioone watching over Luke and helping him/saving him in situations but from afar (using his Force powers) but also cuts between a parallel story of the Empire, Inquisitors and Vader hunting down surviving Jedi. We are introduced to a small collection of those Jedi, which Reva is one running from the Empire. During the course of the show Reva's and ObiWan's path cross and their is a danger that The Empire will find ObiWan and Luke, where upon Reva and the other Jedi succeed in drawing the Empire away from them at the last minute/episode but dying in the process to the over whelming powers of Vader and the Inquisitiors. We could even have a little cameo on Alderaan and see a small glimpse of little Leia. We get cool scenes of Vader and the Inquisitors hunting Jedi, ObiWan using the Force, new Characters such as Reva who we route for, flash backs of the prequels and new scenes with Padawan Anakin, a glimpse of little Leia and younger Luke and all without breaking canon.
Interesting!
It's almost like giving this show's script half an hour more of thought would've led to a better outcome. Even if that extra half hour of brainstorming and scrapping and reworking was done by a busload of cracked out chimps.
Your reviews of this show are consistently hilarious. It feels like catching the writers red handed digging around in trash and lighting them up with a spotlight for the fiends they are. Honestly, what the hell were they thinking having Vader say he knew all along after stabbing Reva? This is just hilarious. It's like they think, 'hmm, what line would have some emotional impact?' with no regard whatsoever for the character, or their past or future actions. Having Vader say that just made me laugh out loud, like what the fuck has he been doing if he knew all along? Like you say, his entire string of actions this season now look utterly retarded, if he knew all along. Or the only other option I can think of is he lied compulsively on the spot, not wanting to let Reva think she got the better of him, despite in fact not knowing. In that case Vader would be an insecure compulsive liar, which also doesn't fit his character but actually makes more sense for the plot than the other explanation....Fucking hell what is this show.
Agreed 100%
Vader knowing that she hates him actually makes sense. Vader was using her drive to get close to him so that she would work harder at catching and killing Jedi. He knew she would do anything to kill him, so letting her chase down kenobi instead of him was smart. Vaders manipulation fits perfectly, sith will use anyone or anything to get what they want. So when Vader realizes she was tricked by kenobi and she tries to kill him he toys with her make her feel weak than kills her. Every thing he does fits his character perfectly
I think the comments are very short sided. He used her rage to help him find Kenobi. Two raged tunnel vision people are better ethan one.
So I'm probably not the first to say this but this show absolutely sucks....it reminds me of a cheap fan fiction written by someone who only watched the movies once decades ago. As for the visual and production it's seems like just tossed together. To see the people who think this is doing the story justice makes me sick.
I love these reviews, it means I don't have to pay Disney to watch this badly written/acted rubbish.
You don’t have to watch ANYTHING. No one’s holding a gun to your head.
Not really.
@@achaudhari101 yes really
the line where Reva said "you have no idea waht I've done" was the best part of the show. It played on the "too far gone" archetype we've seen on The Last of Us I, or The Walking Dead, or Darth Vader himself...but then, it meant nothing, she just became good inmediatly
no she didnt, she just tried to kill vader because she hates him
Just watched The Shawshank Redemption again last night. Damn I miss when movies made you feel something besides contempt for the writers....
The review we all been waiting for!!!
I suppose this is the best episode so far, there are a couple of "not bad" moments, amidst the sludge. How low our bar for Star Wars has sunk indeed.
Indeed. We’ve reached the point where 98% bad makes it the best of the bunch.
Thank you so much for putting these insufferable disney apologetics back in their place!
I cannot even describe the rage I feel everytime I see some idiot of whom I know exactly he doesnt know anything about Star Wars trying to excuse horrible writing by either saying the critique is politically motivated or by stating Star Wars were to have always have been that way.
😠😠😠 It drives me mad.
Did the job advert for the writers go like this?
“Are you lazy? Are you unfamiliar with pre Disney Star Wars? Do you want to make a 10 year old be really annoying? Are you good at making plot holes very big? If so we need you now. If you can be bothered that is”
Am I supposed to believe now that space Moses is going to redeem herself and turn to the light side! She was an asshole, arrogant, violent, reckless and controlling in previous episodes, she showed no signs in her character of being caring, regretfully, apologetic, compassionate or kind. You can't expect an audience to believe that she is a good character now just because. ..
Reva is like if Batman became a villain because his parents died so all he does now is murdering childrens parents
I just recently started watching your videos, and I must say that I love them. I don't know if you already said this, but one nitpick I have for this show is the amount of time "Space Moses" was in contact with the dark side and their ideals of changing and shaping the force. Why doesn't she have any physical defects? I love the videos. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for putting what many of us are feeling into words. Much more thought out, and more enjoyable than the actual material being critiqued... unfortunately.
I love your reviews of the chapters and can't wait for the next one. Get better soon 😊
I’ll do my best!
Thank you for this. You hit every single point I hated in this episode. I was literally yelling at the TV when Reva cut through the door and a hundred bloody stormtroopers couldn't hit a single rebel. Even with Obi-Wan blocking shots, that fight should have been over in about 5 seconds, with all the rebels and Obi-Wan lying in smoking heaps on the ground. And what was Reva doing during this assault? HIDING BEHIND THE STORMTROOPERS WITH HER DRAWN LIGHTSABER, NOT BLOCKING A SINGLE SHOT. Why? Why, Disney?
Glad someone is finally saying it. The echo chamber of Twitter keeps telling writers they are god like. The show is trash, baby leia is the only saving grace. Barely.
that intro is excellent, Aubrey Plaza is a master of dry satire and biting sarcasm
I say the disney staff had their little children write or at least come up with these stories. They probably told the children " Now you can tell all of your little friends at school that you write for Star Wars! Wouldn't that be fun"?
I’m pretty sure the children would’ve done a much better job.
I suspect the reason Vader didn't pull down the 2nd ship is because the ability went on cooldown. Same for the fire...
Your commentary has kept me sane and laughing my ass off as I’ve had to watch what should have been unfold as what unfortunately is.
Absolutely your bestest vidyo evar! I was more intrigued and entertained by this entry, than all of Obi-Wan Kan'tobi, Picard and Discovery combined. Absolute genius. And furthermore if I were not already subscribed beforehand, this entry would have been the reason for me to do so!
Wednesdays gonna be awful, I can feel it.
A bit late to the video, but at 26:26 when you talk about Force users sensing if people are alive, that reminded me of in a new hope when senses millions of people cried out and vanished on alderon (idk how to spell it) also in the flash back he’s literally looking at her right infront of her, did she like manage to run away then play dead?
I'll save everyone a lot of time with this series. The writers sat down on day one to plan out what the story was going to be and what high points to include. They quickly ran into a lot of rules that made the writing harder (we can't do that, because jedi can sense living things, etc.). They then decided that it was too much work to write stories that held true to the established rules so they decided to conpletely ignore them because Disney was still going to make money anyways.
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This for me is the ultimate show of “why?!”. Some real good ones in this episode:
1. Why does Bail give away all the secret details of everything, including the fact that Vader’s kids are alive and where they are in a recording literally anyone could find?
2. Why send a 10 year old to fix complicated electronics she couldn’t possibly understand?
3. Why is Kenobi ok with that and her potentially being electrocuted and killed?
4. Why, if there’s no one small enough to fit in the vents, are there electronics in there in the first place? How are they maintained?
5. Why does AOTC era Anakin look about 45 years old?
6. Why does Reva order the doors to be blown up when she can easily cut through with a lightsaber?
7. Why does Reva know that it’s Anakin in the Vader suit? All she knows is Anakin went rogue, not that he became Vader.
8. Why doesn’t Vader just stop the 2nd ship from escaping also?
9. Why does Reva let Obi Wan escape? The plan seemed to be “kill Vader while he’s distracted with me” meaning they will fight, but then he just runs away again. Wouldn’t it make more sense if Kenobi and Vader fought, then Reva took her chance to kill Vader then? That would have also given the ship time to escape
10. Why doesn’t Reva attack Vader while he’s busy pulling the ship back?
11. Why did they say there’s only 1 ship when there’s actually 2?
12. Why was the tracker or whatever suddenly able to reprogram the droid to do something very specific?
(Adding more now)
13. Why didn’t Kenobi just force pull that woman to safety? In the last ep he was holding back metric tons of water pressure
14. Why didn’t she throw the thermal detonator over the heads and behind the troopers? That would likely have killed a bunch of them and she was protected by the droid. Yes I know she was shot, but as we’ve seen in this show serious injuries are something you can just walk off
15. Why didn’t Vader kill Reva? He didn’t even take her lightsaber. Must have read that rumour from Disney about the potential Reva spin off
16. Why did Kenobi call it “Order 66”? He must have watched Revenge of the Sith
That’s just off the top of my head.
This was longer than the actual episode, and more enjoyable lol
"Showaddywaddy" was a great reference.
Great review!!! Man you answered a lot of issues that I had with the episode. I agree with everything you said! Thank you.
The S.Trooper banging his head was accidental. Im so baffled, why would anyone use THAT as an example of Star Wars being silly?
Never seen your channel before, 2 minutes in im subbed. Incredibly annoying to see such potential get absolutely destroyed by terrible writing and a mindless “fan”base
Welcome aboard!
You do good work TLP. I appreciate all the attention to detail. Keep up the good work my friend
I’ve been waiting for this….I love your takes on this show.
Still have not brought myself to watch yet. However, this channel is just excellent. Keep it up my friend. I hope you are around a LONG time. Feel better.✌️🇺🇸
how did vader not sense which ship obi was on???
Rage into wanting to kill him.
I don't know. You sense someone. You enter the hanger and a space ship is taking off trying to escape. Most people would think that's the space ship with the people fleeing on it. But hey, let's concentrate on that other one pretending to be dead instead.
Your Grand Inquisitor impression was better than the whole episode itself.
i would rather see hayden with makeup on to make him look younger than a deep faked de-aged anakin, got to look at what anakin was feeling with just his facial expressions than a bland computer generated face
9:49 The sheer fact that these shows and movies are causing a substantial number of people to ask if things make sense every few shots shows that something is very wrong with the filmmaking.
Most shots and dialogue lines should be giving audiences enough examples of intelligence to cover for less obvious lapses and mistakes.
I never noticed the car in Fellowship of the Ring and I never realized that hyperspace could never work as described even with faster than light technologies. That is because the scripts and cinematography of these movies made sense most of the time.
Made sense in scenes that were also subjectively appealing I should add.
Dude how do you not have more subscribers. Love the content
“Random shed around the galaxy” 😂👌
Haha!!! This was so eloquently put 👍😁 Thank you
The Devastator should have no problem running down a transport ship at sublight. An ISD-I is way faster at sublight than a civilian transport ship. And even if it wasn't, it carries 6 squadrons of TIES that most definitely are faster than a civilian transport, let alone all the support craft - shuttles, assault transports, etc - that it does carry.
Not being able to go to hyperspace with an ISD-I on your butt is death... Even the Falcon, a YT-1300, a ship that is notoriously quick even at sublight, wasn't necessarily faster than an ISD at sublight speeds...
Now this is a person with actual knowledge Bravo they shit on the whole plot with that in all the original star wars movies the rebels were constantly being chased and their only reprieve was hyperspace
And watch how they will get Vader off their tail next week to invalidate your comment.
@@achaudhari101 Something incredibly contrived and stupid, no doubt.
These reviews are so spot on. The Obi-wan series makes the clone wars and rebels cartoons look like masterpieces in comparison.
it's beyond me how Lucas didn't get more money to make big fur suits for the Wookies in episode 6.
And instead of mighty wookies taking down the empire we got mini wookies
Incredible episode...detailed analysis....I will follow your career with great interest!
I think that line leads up to me massacring children, but I appreciate the sentiment!
love the cheeky parks and rec clips
I gotta say, this episode finally sold me on this COVID thing the kids are all talking about.
In Fallen Order, it's actually the very fact that not even Darth Vader can just do ANYTHING with the force at any time forever no matter who he's fighting, that allows Cal to escape with his life. Vader knocks Cere away and uses his LIGHTSABER to easily block the much less skilled Cal. He grabs him with the force, but then Cal can pull a large object at Vader from behind, forcing him to counter that which divides HIS attention and power, where Cal is still focused entirely on Vader. Knowing this position is less advantageous, even possibly dangerous, he tosses Cal away and just starts ripping things up from the area to assault him with. (It's only if Cal just stands around doing nothing that Vader has a chance to kill him with a force choke. It's basically like a suicide.)
This allows Cal a chance to book it, and once he's in the elevator he gets away until Vader follows later. Yadda yadda he doesn't really do a ton with the force for a bit because he senses the dark side in Cere and he wants to encourage her to use it, while still demonstrating "Hey, you can slow me, you can't stop me. Not like this."
Cal, having a breathing apparatus, smashes open the glass keeping the water out, and this forces Vader to focus entirely on the water to push it back and keep it from flooding the part of the base he's in. This allows Cal to grab Cere and escape.
Cal is MUCH weaker than Vader, as he should be he hadn't even USED the force since Order 66, where Vader has been training constantly. Fighting Vader, even 2 on 1, is CERTAIN death. However, because Cal can use the force, Vader cannot just insa-kill him with a thought like he totally could and HAS with normal people. With this leveling of the playing field and some clever strategy, Cal can escape a much more powerful foe.
In order for this scene between space moses and Darth Mickey to make sense, she would have to be about as strong in the force as she was as a youngling.
This show is just a massive cash grab milking nostalgia fuckfest of terrible writing, and continuity errors, and i will never feel bad for pirating every episode
I think your brain cells were pirated.
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one of your best reviews yet, i lost it when you imitated the grand inquisitor's voice
It’s honestly the only reason I’m glad he exists!
Wtf even gave her the idea that she could lay a finger on a sith lord, like what's even special about her , a lot of jedi went through order 66 so that's not it, she's not been shown to be particularly good at lightsaber combat or any good with the force , she does have a special force power that allows her to read minds/extract information (which a lot of force users have) but it's been shown to rarely work so she's not good at that either , she was granted the title of grand inquisitor but didn't really do anything to deserve it, like at what point does she think "i could get my revenge? if only i could get close enough" and at what point are we supposed to think that as well?
I love your down to earth approach mate, I only found your channel recently and I'm really enjoying your content, keep it up!
As with everything made under KK, somehow this show manages to take even a harmless flashback and corrupt it into something so on the nose it almost makes the things we have already learned/seen about the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin (done better) feel less interesting than it used to be. Bravo.
Another fantastic video. your Grand Inquisitor impression had me rollin'.
This was a really well put together and thought out video. I hate this show. It’s so god awful and I don’t understand how anyone said yes to this trash. Keep up the good work! 👍
Many thanks!
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I spit out my drink in cackling insane laughter after you said that emmisions thing...
Disney Star Wars is driven by nostalgia, reminiscence and flashbacks. George Lucas never did any of this for his 6 movies, that's why they are better than Disney Star Wars.
Disney Star Wars has easy plots and dumb down dialogue so Americans can follow it. As seen in ALL Disney Star Wars from movies 7,8,9, Mando, TBOBF and OWK.
Everything you said was plain wrong.
@@achaudhari101 Please explain why?
@@darrellpowell6042 You condemned the shows as being dumbed down despite them being important to the contexts of the story like with the flashbacks (Seriously why would you think the Obi Wan flashback was a bad thing when it was something even non DSW fans wanted to see again?). Lucas had done nostalgia based stuff in Star Wars with the prequels and the parallels it had with the OT.
The quality of this channel and its content stands head and shoulders above the vast, vast majority of UA-cam cultural media commentators. I wish you lads the absolute world going forward. If the world is a fair place - and I'm not convinced it is - the depth and intellect you bring to the table ought propel you over the god damn ramparts and into the elite echelons of those attempting to save culture from full-on self-immolation.
Very kind. Here’s hoping!