This has been a very informative talk. I am a traditional Jew - I converted to Judaism exactly because I believed it was the original religion of the old testament nd of Abraham. I did believe that Christianity was a pagan addition and innnovation- Thank you so much for making me think more deeply on the subject. I think I may have to consider Christianity (and more specifically Orthodox Christianity) more seriously. Please pray for me on my journey.
It has been 2000 years, Jesus isn’t coming back. And Jesus was not the promised Messiah of Jews, read you Tanakh and see that Jesus didn’t fulfil any prophecies
@@bobsbobbs : Christ returns in the Eschaton, and we are not yet there. Christ Himself told us that before He returns, the Gospel must first be spread to all the nations. In John's Revelation, it has been revealed that the spirit of antichrist must culminate in one final Antichrist. It is part of the pattern endemic to the fallen world. But be assured, He will return in glory and transfigure all of existence. Our time for repentance in now. Turn your heart to the Lord Christ, brother. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Alpha and the Omega. The Power seated at the right hand of the Father. All of Scripture is fulfilled in Him and by Him.
@@bobsbobbs Over 2000 years for Jews, and no messiah (because it was Jesus), no more Jewish prophets (Because Jesus said there would not be), No temple (As Jesus foretold), No more animal sacrifice (because Jesus is the Lamb of God), No more Jewish high priest (because Jesus is the high priest)... The religion is just withering on the vine for no apparent reason... It's time to wake up, like many Jews already have... We also see ancient manuscript evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls that Jews changed some messianic texts in their modern bibles to better fit their narrative. Ancient Jewish texts are more accurate and in better alignment with Christian OT scripture than modern Jewish bibles and predate the basis of the Jewish bible by about 1000 years.
How has your journey been so far, brother? Have you read the Gospels and the New Testament, and attended Orthodox Divine Liturgy? I will be praying for you.
Jeem ..As a Muslim, who like you and loves to follow you, because your style is very civilized, and even if we differ, it is distinguished by a person who is confident in his identity, has the ability to combine Christianity and Arabism, history and religion, a confident man who forces any neutral to respect and listen to him, which is a very rare thing . Why not Your videos are translated into Arabic because the Muslim follower does not understand the church terminology or the Old Testament and the Bible ...... because your channel deserves to be followed by the new generation of Arabs, Muslims and Christians . This is a difficult request, but it has great implications.
Thank you for the kind words, Marwan. And that's a great point. I'll think of translating my videos with Arabic subtitles or maybe doing some of them in arabic itself.
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
Young man, you are a blessing and very refreshing to listen to. I will eagerly explore your channel to glean your excellent insight into the Abrahamic faiths. I was born a Jew and reborn a Christian. Be well and be blessed!
Jungian/Gnostic here (if you have to twist my arm for a label that's the closest you'll get)... Now, I know it's really not my party but this video is pretty cool. The context you offer is objective but the history is passionate. Thanks for helping me expand my consciousness.
God bless you sir, I normally don’t like to message on old videos but your deserves it. I’ve never heard a more honest and straight forward explanation to a controversial topic.
Yup. I can donate fr time to time for your channel. 👍🏼 Hopefully you hve a one time donation available also.... Keep them coming.. I like the short videos. Makes it easy to send to other people. 👌🏼
I love your videos :) As someone who was previously a Noahide that studied Rabbinic Judaism a lot, I appreciate these videos. Keep on making videos refuting Rabbinic Judaism! May Christ bless you
Thank you. I'm going to continue this series on Judaism for a bit longer since it's been progressing greatly. It's interesting to see ex-Jews or ex Ben-Noah for certain!
@@Jeem196 I want to point out that Rabbinic Judaism itself is a literal hell to understand. There's no order in Rabbinic Judaism, everyone has different opinions and it is Rabbi against Rabbi. Sometimes there aren't even any answers to basic questions. When I read certain things from Rabbinic Sources that kind of proved Christianity, I ignored them. Rabbinic Judaism does everything in its power to stop Christianity. It's funny how early rabbinic sources agree with Christianity but after the rise of many popular Rabbis such as the RaMBaM and many other Judaism changes. I myself was debating Christians and I could tell you, I couldn't defend what I believed. I cited Rabbinic Sources instead of arguing from the Torah. Rabbinic Jews use Rabbinic Sources when debating, but Christians don't. The people I debated even cited Rabbinic Sources to prove Christianity which blew me away at the time. It's interesting to see that many early Rabbinic Sources have traces that link to Christianity.
Something worth mentioning ........to be a Christian Acts 11:26 you not only talk like Jesus, but you walk like Jesus. Christ like is being like Jesus who is the messiah, the Christ come to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel. in Matthew 24:24 who are those that come to deceive, even the very elect if it were possible? Who comes in the name of Jesus deceiving everyone? All through and in the name of Jesus? 1 john 2:3-4 liars all come in the name of Jesus....Why? Isaiah 8:20 fulfilled in Matthew 7:12
The "Liturgy" they develop in the upcoming 3rd temple is going to be so cringe. I can imagine it now... Tovia Singer and Jeffrey Ross schmutzing around with the antichrist.
Just discovered this video today. THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge. I am in search for the ORIGINAL Judaism and ORIGINAL Christianity - Just the plain, clear, beautiful TRUTH, not blurred by tradition or EXTRA stuff.
hello, i am protestant. so, liturgies have the equivalent of the tabernacle in their services? (what's behind the iconostasis)? and god dwells there each sunday like in exodus?
God dwells in the Eucharist itself. The Liturgy is a reflection of the ceremonial services from the tabernacle, through to the Temple, through to the era of the Book of Acts and forward. The Eucharist is the bloodless sacrifice, the altar is like the seat on the Ark, and our priests fulfill and continue the role of the Levitical priests of the OT
Jerem, I have to congratulate you for spreading knowledge on this topic and doing so with Christian love, as an orthodox Christian I see many of our fellows descending into the sin of bigotry in addition to the critique but you did not do that, so I am very glad to have seen this!
The Law of Moses was actually not Judaism, as Moses was not a Jew, neither were the Israelites. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were also not Jews. The religion of the Pharisees which originated after the Babylonian captivity is early Judaism -- which Christ condemned. Rabbinic Judaism was concocted much later as a rebuttal to Christianity. You're spot on except(!) from the use of the word "Judaism."
Hi Jeem. Can you explain or maybe lead me to some ressources as to why orthodox christians dont celebrate biblical holy days, that jesus did celebrate?
Interesting. Thank you. Now I read somewhere that the Christians were accepted as a sect of Judaism until the Christians refused to accept Bar Kokhba as the Messiah around 130 or so.
This is my favorite video of yours as it deals with my favorite topic: similarities between the ancient faith of the prophets and modern Orthodoxy. Do you know of any books that talk about this topic at length?
Given the Council of Jerusalem in Acts decided that Gentiles only have to follow the moral law aspects of the Mosaic Law and not the ceremonial and other aspects, what does the Orthodox Church say a Jew has to do if they convert to Orthodox Christianity today? Do they act like the Gentiles, or do they continue to follow the other aspects too? From what I've seen it seems to be the former. If this is the case, why?
I’m fairly certain Rabbinic Jews receive no special treatment and are expected to live like all Orthodox Christians do, not following the old covenant. Rabbinic Judaism is not the Judaism of the Bible or the Judaism of Christ and the Apostles time so the Talmudic laws aren’t what was being referred to by the Apostles. The Talmud is a forgery created hundreds of years after Christ. The Samaritans, Karaites, Beta Israelites, Sadducees, and Essenes, literally every other Jewish group rejects the Talmud as a forgery.
The Tanakh is interpreted through the Talmud of the Rabbis. The Christian Bible is interpreted through the Fathers of the Synods. The Qur'an is interpreted through the Hadiths of the Imams.
Good Videos as always... 🙏🏼👍🏼🕊️ What is the main reason your not a Catholic/ eastern Catholic. I seen many videos on Apologetic fr Jimmy Atkins. Trent Horn. Michael Loften.. Dr. Brat Pitre. Etc... Saying that the Orthodox church broke/Seperated fr the Church. What is your take on that. Love your videos as always. And i send them to other individuals so they can understand the early churches.. 🙏🏼🕊️👍🏼 Thank you my kind Sr.. 😇
I have no personal issue with Catholics, I just disagree with some of the theology of Catholicism. I was raised orthodox, but about half of my family are Eastern Catholics, a mix of Maronite and Melkite, so I'm very familiar with their Liturgy as well. I'll do some content on comparing the two
If it's about the "older" Christianity church, so the Chatolics were those who separated them from the Orthodox. And not opposite around. Just to mention this. God bless you.
Of the original Patriarchates, only one is out of communion, only one has made multiple changes to doctrine and dogma,(universal papal primacy, Immaculate Conception, purgatory, papal infallibility) while Orthodoxy remains in communion, teaches a faith unchanged since the Apostolic Age...who does historical evidence indicate is the one who left?
The irony is, so many people are looking for that authentic “Hebrew roots” or “Jewish Christian” church. Apostolic churches fulfill that perfectly as the restored Davidic Kingdom and Solomonic Temple.
Revelation 12:17 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Love your insights, but have a suggestion. You’re about “truth”. Avoiding mere opinions, unless you note them as such, will help establish the difference. The opinion about the western wall (thus the mosque as well) not being the site of the temple is not fact, but opinion. Much Jewish argumentation is promoting the City of David as the authentic site. Many, wanting a site to build a 3rd temple without disturbing the mosque , are motivated to that conclusion. Most archeologists push back on that based on excavation finds from under the mosque. You have your opinion. That’s OK, just not stated as undisputed fact. I see no problem with Christ’s words about no stone being left upon another related to the western wall, even if the Temple Mount is authentic. It was a retaining wall for the platform. No one can claim that Christ’s words about the temple building have anything to do with a non-temple building wall. Keep up the good work.
Names are just names. The religion of the old testament wasn't called Judaism till after the division of the kingdom. And after the Messiah came, the the people who follow him didn't choose a name but rather the people who observed them chose a name to call this movement... The people who joined the body of Christ were called Christians, then after the schisms names messed up even more. The papist on the west wouldn't never call the Christians of the East as Orthodox because it is admitting they have the truth, and the Christians of the East wouldn't never call the papist as Catholics because it would affirming their catholicity and communion with the Church they've departed from. But eventually things happen and we ended up with this confusion. But we're in the age of information, search about it. God bless
Hey Jeem, can't the Jews justify the Talmud by reference to oral teachings? They say, and history teaches that the Talmud is only written teachings of oral law passed down because they feared it would be lost. I am not disagreeing with you rather I am wondering how one can argue against this point.
Levitical priesthood is not what christianity have rather it is the priesthood like melketsedek. Jesus gave us the kind of priesthood like melketsedek which doesnt get inherited.
Why is Orthodox Christianity seen as the continuity of OT "Judaism" if it says in Galatians 4 that Christianity is something different and separate from the Moses' religion given at Mt Sinai?
Im so sorry but wow this is hard to understand for me I'm mormon but trying to become orthodox but i here jews are gods people but they don't believe in Jesus so im confused about it
Balaam was not a Jew and would not speak against the Israelites yet he had the authority to speak as a prophet, today there are prophets who have had true theophanies and glorious revelations, who would never deny Israel's right in fact they would endorse Israel and the people in Israel as the *Children of God* Christians are envious of Jewish salvation, thinking that Jews have to convert to Christianity but they don't, Christianity came about because one enlightened man and the generation he grew up in knew they had to expand the ability of God to create *a superhighway for souls* that the Children of God would come to God in the arms of *KINGS who would be their foster fathers, and Queen's who would be their Nursing mothers* as recorded in Isaiah 49, which also records Israel as *You are my servant Israel in whom I shall be Glorified* The new Testament states that Jesus Christ identified Elijah in John the Baptist and John the Baptist identified Israel redivivus in Jesus (the lamb of God) where he said _John answered them, “I baptize with water; but among you stands one whom you do not know, 27 _*_even he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28_*_ This took place in Bethany_ John the Baptist therefore states that he recognised Jesus as Israel when he was present in Elijah, even though Israel lived 1200 years before him, as confirmed by Isaiah salvation of the Jews is *The preserved of Jacob are redeemed in Israel* The Old Testament provides reincarnation as a mean of Redemption. _Zechariah 13:9 And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will _ The New Testament also states that a person has opportunities to be reborn *but a time comes when they can no longer die anymore, but must become children of God* celestial beings and then be judged. As Christians they must have the Jewish spiritual blood for transformation which Jesus Christ gives. Luke 20:36 _36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection._ The following text of Luke (37) confirms the salvation which the Jews enjoyed from Moses. The New Testament was written by dedicated Jews who were including the family if Abraham in the lineage of Jesus but they also revered King David as Jesus ancestry and the Christian Church has avoided any belief in reincarnation as a pathway to Resurrection and Ascension because to understand that subject in the light of Scripture brings the believer directly ti the knowledge that Jesus and (Jacob) are Israel. Judgement for an Israelite and a Christian are the same they must stand before the Divine Word of God and hear his testimony of salvation which is Revelation, jesus does not take part in Judgement nor does Almighty God, because a person could not bear it. *Jesus Christ does not Judge* John 8:15 _You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one._ John 8:50 _Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it and he will be the judge._ John 12:47 _If any one hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world._ John 5:221-23 _21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. 22 _*_The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honour the Son,_*_ even as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him._ It is a great honour to be judged and confirms that we have had multiple opportunities for rebirth but we are now at *the end of the world* in the presence of a personage of overwhelming purity a purity that confirms in us how far removed we are from Him who has to deal with us. Like Job He asks *who are you to stand before me* and *are you great? Only the great can pass me by* This can happen in this life or after it. After a length of time in which you are left with the wrath of God on you, you may be allowed to see God the Father but you see him in Jesus Christ You see the glory of God in Him, this is called the *Beatific Vision.* This can cause concern in the soul, because the Christian religion states that Jesus is the Judge this is not true, but he can *pray the spirit for us* the Son who is the Spirit of Truth and Divine Word manifests himself as a *Glittering great two edged Sword* this is not Jesus but Jesus Christ in the Beatific Vision is ALSO Israel. Judgement is a non-trinitarian event
Excellent video that covers many good points. The Jewish Temple worship ended with the destruction of the second temple in AD 70. Judaism is therefore effectively dead, but is continued in the Orthodox liturgy. Jesus said “I have not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them." As such Orthodox Christianity is the fulfilment and continuation of the Judaic temple worship and the levitical priesthood. The fact that it is now available to Gentiles is because this is always what was intended. We are all now children of Abraham in spirit. The comments on the Jewish Talmud were informative for me, I did not realise that the Talmud formed the basis of rabbinical Judaism, I can see the similarity with Islamic Hadith. Lord save us.
You've completely misrepresented the Talmud. You accuse the Talmud of many things e.g. completely changing the meaning of the Bible yet you fail to provide even one example. In addition you say there is no imagery in Judaism today. When was the last time you were in an Orthodox Synagogue? No images of God are allowed, and even the Ark of the covenant was never worshipped. And to clarify there is a public reading of the bible thrice weekly, there is no law like this for the Talmud. You've misunderstood the Daf Yomi program. You can always Google it. All in all a poor video with many basic errors and misunderstandings.
Please don't talk about the Talmud, you'll get them curious and then they'll find out what we have been doing to all the gentiles. Keep it to yourself, we don't need them rising up against us when we're so close.
@@thatwolfensteinguy8954 100% the Temple was adorned with images. And God in Holy Trinity adorned the entire world with images of HIMSELF (humans). If one is against images, then be genocidal.
I am a orthodox jew and there is many wrong things in this video. First, yes, there was imagery in the tabernacle and the Temple but that imagery was clearly, CLEARLY, not even close to orthodox christian imagery(i live in a orthodox christian nation so i know alot about it), imagery in the Temple and tabernacle was of palms and pomegranate trees and fruits because it has a rich symbolic meaning in the Torah, there were two cherubim in the Holy of Holies that was cammanded BY G-D Second levitical priesthood. According to the Torah only, ONLY, descendands of Aaron can be priests if they are Cohanim. Third the fact that you say that we forgot the liturgy from the old testament is wrong, we yearn for the liturgy but we can only do it in the Temple and its not allowed to sacrifice or hold the Temple liturgy outside of the Temple. Circumcision is a comandment given BY G-D for everyone(males) who believe in Him. About the theory that western wall being the wall of a roman fortress is wrong because the walls of the temple mount have the same dimensions as the trmple mount since the time of king Herod. I truly domt know where you get these things from but still read the bible in its original language before going and accusing Jews of changing the Torah Talmud is not where we get our laws from its a book of interpretation of laws from the Torah by many many rabbis. Outrageous, please contact rabbi Tovia Singer, and have a debate, it would be ineresting.
Rabbi Singer does not even go near Michael Brown or Sam Shamoun. He also opposes many opinions that are completely legitimate within Judaism only for opposing Christianity.
You’re basing all of these off of your rabbinic presuppositions, essentially just restating your positions. We know your positions, we want to what justification you have for those positions. You cannot keep restating “because it’s the Bible” or any such equivalence when your understanding of scriptures and what you consider to be scripture is what’s in question, that’s a circular argument and illogical. You need to appeal to something more. Tovia Singer is a rapist who jumped countries to avoid persecution.
Christian priests are more appropriately presbyters and they are antecedents of the rabbis. Basically rabbis were considered another type of priest apart from the Levitical as they were descended from the Prophets.
Any scholarly person could become a rabbi. You dont have to be descended from anybody in particular(You just have to be a Jew). In fact that was the whole point of the rabbis, to do away with the God appointed Levitical priesthood.
@@cervantescisneros712 False. The rabbis were teachers of the Law who descended from the prophetic work of Ezra and the post-exilic prophets and scribes. They only became opposed to the Levitical priesthood when the Maccabeans took royal authority which they felt was illegitimate
He dwells in his people now, Like christ said, do you not know, that ye are a temple, an orthodoxy looks just like the outward show that the roman catholic church put's on, with different lethargy, But I am Moldible, correctable, and teacheable, So I will listen.
I don't think you understand the fundamental question, "Who follows the Bible ...". The bible is a code of law, with some stories included. It supplies the Jewish Religion with the foundation for jurisprudence, so their religious courts can discern the appropriate way to go, for the civilization. Christianity, meanwhile, is lawless. The law is exoteric material. Theology of Judaism is esoteric. They get it from other sources because the Torah is designed for the code of law, not theology.
I disagree. The Talmud is a centuries-later analytical interpretation of the Torah which, like the Tafsir and Hadith of Islam, determines how you interpret the original Torah text. Since Christians do not possess these books, our interpretations are considerably different. The Talmudic interpretations are based entirely on Pharisaical Judaism, which became Rabbinic Judaism. The Judaism Christ preached was Torah Puritanism, not Rabbinic Tradition. Mark Chapter 7 is not about pork, but about Rabbis adding tradition on *top* of the Law of Moses, as He references in Isaiah. The entire NT is about debunking the Rabbinic Tradition. 90% of people miss that.
@@Jeem196 Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that judaism that Christ preached was more of a separate sect with jesus as the main head of it, instead of torah puritanism? Also, different but slightly related topic, whats your opinion on the karaites in this case? They dont follow the talmud.
Well your oral tradition even showed that you loose trust into God protecting his own oral tradition. You basically burn the torah by writing down the oral torah and you wanna invite us to disobey God and to appoint a false prophet like rabbi akiva did and redefined judaïsm.while WE got the the septuguint from the people of God , high Priest Eleazar who IS the son of onias in the Book of nehemiah.
At 0:18 and already you’re making the first of many errors in this video. Moses didn’t practice Judaism. Judaism didn’t yet exist at the time of Moses, since Neviim and Ketuvim hadn’t even been written, and without those there is no Jewish Hebrew Bible, aka the TaNaKH. Judaism is but one of the many extinct and extant immediate descendants of monotheistic Israelite Yahweism religion which worshipped and recognized the existence of only Yahweh, which itself descended from monolatristic Yahweism which recognized the other Canaanite gods’ existence but reserved worship only for Yahweh, which in turn was a descendant of Israelite form of Canaanite polytheism where Yahweh was worshipped with the other gods. Let us remember that the Israelites were but a subgroup of Canaanites, despite what the Bible says. Hebrew is a Canaanite language and the practices and culture of the earliest Israelites was indistinguishable from other Canaanites. Ancient DNA comparison of Canaanite burial samples show their DNA was similar to that of their Israelite contemporaries, and that the various Jewish communities of today also share that ancient Canaanite/Israelite genetic profile (along with Palestinians who are the culturally Arabized and religiously Christianised or Islamized descendants of Israelites of both the Jewish and Samaritan groups). Moses certainly practiced the Israelite religion, but it wasn’t yet Judaism. Samaritanism is also its own descendant of the early Israelite monotheistic religion of Yahweism, diverging at the time of the first Israelite exile from what later became Judaism. There are two opinions as to the evolution of Christianity. The most accepted by scholars is that Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism. A minority opinion is that Christianity is a parallel apocalyptic descendant of late Israelite monotheistic Yahweism, closest to Judaism but not descended from it. So, at most, Judaism and Samaritanism are sister religions and both daughter religions of Yahwehism, while Christianity is a daughter religion of Judaism. Or, Judaism, Samaritanism, and Christianity are all daughter religions of Yahweism. Either way, Moses didn’t practice Judaism, nor did Abraham, Isaac, nor Jacob. Judaism and Samaritanism are what became of their religion. Christianity too, maybe, if it’s not a descendant of Judaism, but evolved parallel to Judaism. As for Islam, it is not a descendant of Yahweism, nor of Judaism, nor of Christianity. Islam is instead an independent fusion of some aspect of Judaism, some of aspects of Christianity, and some aspects of Arabian paganism. Yahweism is a national deity-based religion serving as system of law through cult for the Ancient Israelite nation, not yet messianic. Samaritanism is also not messianic. Judaism is messianic. Christianity is messianic (but with a different concept of a messiah than Judaism) and apocalyptic. Islam in turn has yet another concept of messiah which is different to both Judaism and also different from Christianity’s.
@@y.l7455 Samaritanism later developed a figure called the Taheb, not quite the same thing as the Messiah of Judaism. The word Taheb itself isn’t even the same or of the same etymology as Messiah in Hebrew (Mashiach) which at least Christianity and Islam share with Judaism even though their concept of messiah are different from Judaism. During the apocalypse, called "the day of vengeance" in Samaritanism, there will be the end of days, when the Taheb from the tribe of Joseph will come. Note, he is not from the tribe of Judah, as held by Judaism and Christianity (because Christianity accepts the Hebrew Bible in whole). On the other hand, Islam doesn’t assign the Messiah (who they believe was Jesus) as being from any specific Israelite tribe, just that the Messiah is a member of Bani Isra’il. Jesus’ role in Islam is that of a prophet. In fact, Islam holds that Jesus isn’t of the Davidic line (which is a requirement of Judaism paternally from a human blood father, and Christianity which assigns it via Mary which goes against Israelite law of lineage, but that’s another issue). Islam doesn’t consider Jesus’ human fatherless conception (and thus lack of a paternal lineage) as being a problem or of any importance because Islam doesn’t accept the Hebrew Bible’s requirement of patrilineal descent of the Messiah from King David and from the tribe of Judah, in the way Judaism requires it, or Christianity ostensibly claims to require it (yet defectively attempts to attribute that required paternal lineage via the mother rather than the non existent human father). Thus, the claimed virgin birth of Jesus is accepted by Christianity and Islam, but it is only a problem for Christianity (since tribal affiliation isn’t passed on by mothers under Israelite law), not Islam. By contrast, Judaism holds the messiah will be conceived sexually, will thus not be born of a virgin, rather from a young female not an old female, he will only be human and in no way divine, and he will have a human genetic blood father and mother. Anyway, I digress. The Taheb will come, be a prophet akin to Moses (not like Jesus), he will not be an anointed king, but he will around for 40 years and bring about the return of all the Israelites to the land of Israel (not just Samaritans or Jews, but all Israelites), following which the dead will be resurrected. So no, the Samaritans don’t have a Messiah, an anointed figure, a king. Messiah means anointed in Hebrew. The Taheb will be a prophet, not a messiah.
Christianity is pagan because it was used to keep a struggling Rome together. It's why all the westernized holidays overlap pagan holidays, etc... So, no. Westernized Christianity is not the lineage of the "OT" Judaism either.
They overlap pagan holidays because they replaced them in the empires Christianisation. And most of them don't overlap. If Constantine merely wanted to hold the empire together he would have sided with the Arians but instead chose to convene a council to settle what is true.
@@joshuaparsons887, Tertullian Trinitarians and pagans were the majority of the region at that time and that is what Constantine was addressing. Arians didn't have the numbers to sway Constantine. To stop a Roman civil war, the Nicene Creed was developed.
Neither. Both would be proud to admit it as well. Both believe Church or Rabbinic tradition is greater than the Bible.That's why you should reject both.
Christianity is completely dependent on the tradition of rabbinic judaism to have it's Bible.---jewish Scriptures and know it's language to make a translatoipn to know what it says. And orthodox, or other than orthodox christianity, is completely dependent on the catholic church for the new testament.
This has been a very informative talk. I am a traditional Jew - I converted to Judaism exactly because I believed it was the original religion of the old testament nd of Abraham. I did believe that Christianity was a pagan addition and innnovation- Thank you so much for making me think more deeply on the subject. I think I may have to consider Christianity (and more specifically Orthodox Christianity) more seriously. Please pray for me on my journey.
It has been 2000 years, Jesus isn’t coming back. And Jesus was not the promised Messiah of Jews, read you Tanakh and see that Jesus didn’t fulfil any prophecies
@@bobsbobbs : Christ returns in the Eschaton, and we are not yet there. Christ Himself told us that before He returns, the Gospel must first be spread to all the nations. In John's Revelation, it has been revealed that the spirit of antichrist must culminate in one final Antichrist. It is part of the pattern endemic to the fallen world. But be assured, He will return in glory and transfigure all of existence. Our time for repentance in now. Turn your heart to the Lord Christ, brother. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Alpha and the Omega. The Power seated at the right hand of the Father. All of Scripture is fulfilled in Him and by Him.
@@bobsbobbs Over 2000 years for Jews, and no messiah (because it was Jesus), no more Jewish prophets (Because Jesus said there would not be), No temple (As Jesus foretold), No more animal sacrifice (because Jesus is the Lamb of God), No more Jewish high priest (because Jesus is the high priest)... The religion is just withering on the vine for no apparent reason... It's time to wake up, like many Jews already have... We also see ancient manuscript evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls that Jews changed some messianic texts in their modern bibles to better fit their narrative. Ancient Jewish texts are more accurate and in better alignment with Christian OT scripture than modern Jewish bibles and predate the basis of the Jewish bible by about 1000 years.
How has your journey been so far, brother? Have you read the Gospels and the New Testament, and attended Orthodox Divine Liturgy? I will be praying for you.
I'd suggest checking out the podcast "Lord of spirits" and "the whole council of God."
Ancient faith has loads of good material on orthodoxy
Jeem ..As a Muslim, who like you and loves to follow you, because your style is very civilized, and even if we differ, it is distinguished by a person who is confident in his identity, has the ability to combine Christianity and Arabism, history and religion, a confident man who forces any neutral to respect and listen to him, which is a very rare thing .
Why not Your videos are translated into Arabic because the Muslim follower does not understand the church terminology or the Old Testament and the Bible ...... because your channel deserves to be followed by the new generation of Arabs, Muslims and Christians .
This is a difficult request, but it has great implications.
Thank you for the kind words, Marwan. And that's a great point. I'll think of translating my videos with Arabic subtitles or maybe doing some of them in arabic itself.
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time
The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits
So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply
Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@@theguyver4934 Our religion is true. You just want us to be muslim.
@@theguyver4934your religion is barbarians and savage
@@xSephironxWhat an unchristian thing to say! Christianity is so Pagan! 🗿
Young man, you are a blessing and very refreshing to listen to. I will eagerly explore your channel to glean your excellent insight into the Abrahamic faiths. I was born a Jew and reborn a Christian. Be well and be blessed!
God bless you
Keep up the good work young man. This old timer is learning from you and God seems to be affirming things to me through your videos.
Jungian/Gnostic here (if you have to twist my arm for a label that's the closest you'll get)... Now, I know it's really not my party but this video is pretty cool. The context you offer is objective but the history is passionate. Thanks for helping me expand my consciousness.
This is where evangelicals get lost…
thank you, this is exactly the explanation I was looking for. Glory to God.
God bless you sir, I normally don’t like to message on old videos but your deserves it. I’ve never heard a more honest and straight forward explanation to a controversial topic.
Yup. I can donate fr time to time for your channel. 👍🏼 Hopefully you hve a one time donation available also.... Keep them coming.. I like the short videos. Makes it easy to send to other people. 👌🏼
I love your videos :) As someone who was previously a Noahide that studied Rabbinic Judaism a lot, I appreciate these videos. Keep on making videos refuting Rabbinic Judaism!
May Christ bless you
Thank you. I'm going to continue this series on Judaism for a bit longer since it's been progressing greatly. It's interesting to see ex-Jews or ex Ben-Noah for certain!
@@Jeem196 I want to point out that Rabbinic Judaism itself is a literal hell to understand. There's no order in Rabbinic Judaism, everyone has different opinions and it is Rabbi against Rabbi. Sometimes there aren't even any answers to basic questions. When I read certain things from Rabbinic Sources that kind of proved Christianity, I ignored them. Rabbinic Judaism does everything in its power to stop Christianity. It's funny how early rabbinic sources agree with Christianity but after the rise of many popular Rabbis such as the RaMBaM and many other Judaism changes. I myself was debating Christians and I could tell you, I couldn't defend what I believed. I cited Rabbinic Sources instead of arguing from the Torah. Rabbinic Jews use Rabbinic Sources when debating, but Christians don't. The people I debated even cited Rabbinic Sources to prove Christianity which blew me away at the time. It's interesting to see that many early Rabbinic Sources have traces that link to Christianity.
Something worth mentioning ........to be a Christian Acts 11:26 you not only talk like Jesus, but you walk like Jesus. Christ like is being like Jesus who is the messiah, the Christ come to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel. in Matthew 24:24 who are those that come to deceive, even the very elect if it were possible? Who comes in the name of Jesus deceiving everyone? All through and in the name of Jesus?
1 john 2:3-4 liars all come in the name of Jesus....Why? Isaiah 8:20 fulfilled in Matthew 7:12
Very interesting im an Orthodox Jew and can easily defend Judaism or what you call Rabbinic Judaism@@eliYVL
The "Liturgy" they develop in the upcoming 3rd temple is going to be so cringe. I can imagine it now... Tovia Singer and Jeffrey Ross schmutzing around with the antichrist.
You should do a video on the major similarities between Rabbinic Judaism and Roman Catholicism…
Very good presentation. I am EOC as well because I found it to be true and consistent
Just discovered this video today.
THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge.
I am in search for the ORIGINAL Judaism and ORIGINAL Christianity - Just the plain, clear, beautiful TRUTH, not blurred by tradition or EXTRA stuff.
Roman Catholic here, Great video!
How the journey? Are you still Roman Catholic?
Yeah why not?@@nickkerinklio8239
hello, i am protestant. so, liturgies have the equivalent of the tabernacle in their services? (what's behind the iconostasis)? and god dwells there each sunday like in exodus?
God dwells in the Eucharist itself. The Liturgy is a reflection of the ceremonial services from the tabernacle, through to the Temple, through to the era of the Book of Acts and forward. The Eucharist is the bloodless sacrifice, the altar is like the seat on the Ark, and our priests fulfill and continue the role of the Levitical priests of the OT
@@Jeem196love this clear explanation
Why change the sabbath?
Great video, will follow you bro!
Incredible video.
Jerem, I have to congratulate you for spreading knowledge on this topic and doing so with Christian love, as an orthodox Christian I see many of our fellows descending into the sin of bigotry in addition to the critique but you did not do that, so I am very glad to have seen this!
The Law of Moses was actually not Judaism, as Moses was not a Jew, neither were the Israelites. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were also not Jews. The religion of the Pharisees which originated after the Babylonian captivity is early Judaism -- which Christ condemned. Rabbinic Judaism was concocted much later as a rebuttal to Christianity. You're spot on except(!) from the use of the word "Judaism."
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Everyone knows that not all israelites are jews. all jews are infact israelites. Yahudim come from Israel
@@Rat_8868 Yes... An Hebrew is of Eber, an Israelite is of Jacob, a Judahite is from the tribe of Judah, while a Jew is from the land of Judea.
@@whidoineedthis Exactly, but not everyone makes the distinction.
@@Rat_8868he’s correct
Thanks for this. its very concise.
Hi Jeem. Can you explain or maybe lead me to some ressources as to why orthodox christians dont celebrate biblical holy days, that jesus did celebrate?
YES please do this video ^
Interesting. Thank you. Now I read somewhere that the Christians were accepted as a sect of Judaism until the Christians refused to accept Bar Kokhba as the Messiah around 130 or so.
This is my favorite video of yours as it deals with my favorite topic: similarities between the ancient faith of the prophets and modern Orthodoxy.
Do you know of any books that talk about this topic at length?
Possibly Religion of the Apostles by Steven DeYoung
@@richcook2007 Thanks Rich.
@@PomazeBog1389 👍
Given the Council of Jerusalem in Acts decided that Gentiles only have to follow the moral law aspects of the Mosaic Law and not the ceremonial and other aspects, what does the Orthodox Church say a Jew has to do if they convert to Orthodox Christianity today? Do they act like the Gentiles, or do they continue to follow the other aspects too? From what I've seen it seems to be the former. If this is the case, why?
I’m fairly certain Rabbinic Jews receive no special treatment and are expected to live like all Orthodox Christians do, not following the old covenant. Rabbinic Judaism is not the Judaism of the Bible or the Judaism of Christ and the Apostles time so the Talmudic laws aren’t what was being referred to by the Apostles. The Talmud is a forgery created hundreds of years after Christ. The Samaritans, Karaites, Beta Israelites, Sadducees, and Essenes, literally every other Jewish group rejects the Talmud as a forgery.
Isaiah 19.18-23 talks about an altar and a pillar in Egypt the LORD being known in that land. It is said that this is about the Coptic Church.
Thank you Brother
Great video 👍 instantly subscribed.
The Tanakh is interpreted through the Talmud of the Rabbis. The Christian Bible is interpreted through the Fathers of the Synods. The Qur'an is interpreted through the Hadiths of the Imams.
Good Videos as always... 🙏🏼👍🏼🕊️ What is the main reason your not a Catholic/ eastern Catholic. I seen many videos on Apologetic fr Jimmy Atkins. Trent Horn. Michael Loften.. Dr. Brat Pitre. Etc... Saying that the Orthodox church broke/Seperated fr the Church. What is your take on that. Love your videos as always. And i send them to other individuals so they can understand the early churches.. 🙏🏼🕊️👍🏼 Thank you my kind Sr.. 😇
I have no personal issue with Catholics, I just disagree with some of the theology of Catholicism. I was raised orthodox, but about half of my family are Eastern Catholics, a mix of Maronite and Melkite, so I'm very familiar with their Liturgy as well. I'll do some content on comparing the two
@@Jeem196 Beautiful... So young and you are so educated. Nice work and its a blessing to subscribe to your channel.. 🙏🏼👍🏼
If it's about the "older" Christianity church, so the Chatolics were those who separated them from the Orthodox. And not opposite around. Just to mention this. God bless you.
@@danielleleda ua-cam.com/video/kKA5PzAhsYw/v-deo.html
Of the original Patriarchates, only one is out of communion, only one has made multiple changes to doctrine and dogma,(universal papal primacy, Immaculate Conception, purgatory, papal infallibility) while Orthodoxy remains in communion, teaches a faith unchanged since the Apostolic Age...who does historical evidence indicate is the one who left?
The irony is, so many people are looking for that authentic “Hebrew roots” or “Jewish Christian” church. Apostolic churches fulfill that perfectly as the restored Davidic Kingdom and Solomonic Temple.
hi could you explain your thoughts on protestantism
Will be doing a video on the entire Reformation.
@@Jeem196 thank you will be watching it
Do rabbinic Judaism vs biblical Judaism.
Revelation 12:17
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
What is the temple pictured in the thumbnail? Those icons POP
Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that
is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,
let us hold fast our profession. - Heb4
Excellent video
Love your insights, but have a suggestion. You’re about “truth”.
Avoiding mere opinions, unless you note them as such, will help establish the difference.
The opinion about the western wall (thus the mosque as well) not being the site of the temple is not fact, but opinion.
Much Jewish argumentation is promoting the City of David as the authentic site. Many, wanting a site to build a 3rd temple without disturbing the mosque , are motivated to that conclusion.
Most archeologists push back on that based on excavation finds from under the mosque.
You have your opinion. That’s OK, just not stated as undisputed fact.
I see no problem with Christ’s words about no stone being left upon another related to the western wall, even if the Temple Mount is authentic.
It was a retaining wall for the platform. No one can claim that Christ’s words about the temple building have anything to do with a non-temple building wall.
Keep up the good work.
The catholic church has many rites, not sects as you mentioned. Still one church under one magisterium.
Hey Jeem is there anyway I can email you a question?
Names are just names. The religion of the old testament wasn't called Judaism till after the division of the kingdom. And after the Messiah came, the the people who follow him didn't choose a name but rather the people who observed them chose a name to call this movement... The people who joined the body of Christ were called Christians, then after the schisms names messed up even more. The papist on the west wouldn't never call the Christians of the East as Orthodox because it is admitting they have the truth, and the Christians of the East wouldn't never call the papist as Catholics because it would affirming their catholicity and communion with the Church they've departed from. But eventually things happen and we ended up with this confusion. But we're in the age of information, search about it. God bless
Question: Does Orthodox Christianity do the fasts of Zechariah or do they have festivals on those days? Zechariah 8:19
Am grateful for this knowledge, thank you jeem.
Very good 😊
Who has Grace??? Anyone.... anyone... Bueller?
Is it accurate to say that the Orthodox priesthood is the Melchizedekean priesthood?
Of course. It's also true that traditional Catholicism claims that its priests are in the order of Melchisidek. St. Paul further clarified the matter.
Hey Jeem, can't the Jews justify the Talmud by reference to oral teachings?
They say, and history teaches that the Talmud is only written teachings of oral law passed down because they feared it would be lost.
I am not disagreeing with you rather I am wondering how one can argue against this point.
lol why there is a iconography in a old jewish syanogouges in 6th century
Great points.
Levitical priesthood is not what christianity have rather it is the priesthood like melketsedek. Jesus gave us the kind of priesthood like melketsedek which doesnt get inherited.
Why is Orthodox Christianity seen as the continuity of OT "Judaism" if it says in Galatians 4 that Christianity is something different and separate from the Moses' religion given at Mt Sinai?
Christianity is the Old Testament prophecies fulfilled. The Mesih/Mesiah that the old Testament Israelites were waiting for was born.
and through His Crucifixion and Resurrection overcame death.
You mean the priesthood of Melchizedek not of levi priesthood
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Good work…
Im so sorry but wow this is hard to understand for me I'm mormon but trying to become orthodox but i here jews are gods people but they don't believe in Jesus so im confused about it
Judaism does believe that G-d can enter into Creation
Balaam was not a Jew and would not speak against the Israelites yet he had the authority to speak as a prophet, today there are prophets who have had true theophanies and glorious revelations, who would never deny Israel's right in fact they would endorse Israel and the people in Israel as the *Children of God* Christians are envious of Jewish salvation, thinking that Jews have to convert to Christianity but they don't, Christianity came about because one enlightened man and the generation he grew up in knew they had to expand the ability of God to create *a superhighway for souls* that the Children of God would come to God in the arms of *KINGS who would be their foster fathers, and Queen's who would be their Nursing mothers* as recorded in Isaiah 49, which also records Israel as *You are my servant Israel in whom I shall be Glorified*
The new Testament states that Jesus Christ identified Elijah in John the Baptist and John the Baptist identified Israel redivivus in Jesus (the lamb of God) where he said _John answered them, “I baptize with water; but among you stands one whom you do not know, 27 _*_even he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28_*_ This took place in Bethany_
John the Baptist therefore states that he recognised Jesus as Israel when he was present in Elijah, even though Israel lived 1200 years before him, as confirmed by Isaiah salvation of the Jews is *The preserved of Jacob are redeemed in Israel*
The Old Testament provides reincarnation as a mean of Redemption.
_Zechariah 13:9
And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will _
The New Testament also states that a person has opportunities to be reborn *but a time comes when they can no longer die anymore, but must become children of God* celestial beings and then be judged.
As Christians they must have the Jewish spiritual blood for transformation which Jesus Christ gives.
Luke 20:36
_36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection._
The following text of Luke (37) confirms the salvation which the Jews enjoyed from Moses.
The New Testament was written by dedicated Jews who were including the family if Abraham in the lineage of Jesus but they also revered King David as Jesus ancestry and the Christian Church has avoided any belief in reincarnation as a pathway to Resurrection and Ascension because to understand that subject in the light of Scripture brings the believer directly ti the knowledge that Jesus and (Jacob) are Israel.
Judgement for an Israelite and a Christian are the same they must stand before the Divine Word of God and hear his testimony of salvation which is Revelation, jesus does not take part in Judgement nor does Almighty God, because a person could not bear it.
*Jesus Christ does not Judge*
John 8:15
_You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one._
John 8:50
_Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it and he will be the judge._
John 12:47
_If any one hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world._
John 5:221-23
_21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. 22 _*_The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honour the Son,_*_ even as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him._
It is a great honour to be judged and confirms that we have had multiple opportunities for rebirth but we are now at *the end of the world* in the presence of a personage of overwhelming purity a purity that confirms in us how far removed we are from Him who has to deal with us. Like Job He asks *who are you to stand before me* and *are you great? Only the great can pass me by*
This can happen in this life or after it.
After a length of time in which you are left with the wrath of God on you, you may be allowed to see God the Father but you see him in Jesus Christ You see the glory of God in Him, this is called the *Beatific Vision.* This can cause concern in the soul, because the Christian religion states that Jesus is the Judge this is not true, but he can *pray the spirit for us* the Son who is the Spirit of Truth and Divine Word manifests himself as a *Glittering great two edged Sword* this is not Jesus but Jesus Christ in the Beatific Vision is ALSO Israel.
Judgement is a non-trinitarian event
Where do u go do u have a spiritual father who teaches u
Excellent video that covers many good points. The Jewish Temple worship ended with the destruction of the second temple in AD 70. Judaism is therefore effectively dead, but is continued in the Orthodox liturgy. Jesus said “I have not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them." As such Orthodox Christianity is the fulfilment and continuation of the Judaic temple worship and the levitical priesthood. The fact that it is now available to Gentiles is because this is always what was intended. We are all now children of Abraham in spirit. The comments on the Jewish Talmud were informative for me, I did not realise that the Talmud formed the basis of rabbinical Judaism, I can see the similarity with Islamic Hadith. Lord save us.
Even the idea of romans expelling them is not historically backed up. I recommend checking the works of Shlmo Sand
Do you have citation about Roman wall statement. Thanks
Excellent video much respect
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Was Jesus an orthodox Christian?
Non
You've completely misrepresented the Talmud. You accuse the Talmud of many things e.g. completely changing the meaning of the Bible yet you fail to provide even one example.
In addition you say there is no imagery in Judaism today. When was the last time you were in an Orthodox Synagogue? No images of God are allowed, and even the Ark of the covenant was never worshipped.
And to clarify there is a public reading of the bible thrice weekly, there is no law like this for the Talmud. You've misunderstood the Daf Yomi program. You can always Google it. All in all a poor video with many basic errors and misunderstandings.
Please don't talk about the Talmud, you'll get them curious and then they'll find out what we have been doing to all the gentiles.
Keep it to yourself, we don't need them rising up against us when we're so close.
@@makerealitygreatagain8809 underrated comment
Ancient synagogues had Icons like in Orthadox Christianity, look it up.
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100% the Temple was adorned with images.
And God in Holy Trinity adorned the entire world with images of HIMSELF (humans).
If one is against images, then be genocidal.
I am a orthodox jew and there is many wrong things in this video.
First, yes, there was imagery in the tabernacle and the Temple but that imagery was clearly, CLEARLY, not even close to orthodox christian imagery(i live in a orthodox christian nation so i know alot about it), imagery in the Temple and tabernacle was of palms and pomegranate trees and fruits because it has a rich symbolic meaning in the Torah, there were two cherubim in the Holy of Holies that was cammanded BY G-D
Second levitical priesthood. According to the Torah only, ONLY, descendands of Aaron can be priests if they are Cohanim.
Third the fact that you say that we forgot the liturgy from the old testament is wrong, we yearn for the liturgy but we can only do it in the Temple and its not allowed to sacrifice or hold the Temple liturgy outside of the Temple.
Circumcision is a comandment given BY G-D for everyone(males) who believe in Him.
About the theory that western wall being the wall of a roman fortress is wrong because the walls of the temple mount have the same dimensions as the trmple mount since the time of king Herod.
I truly domt know where you get these things from but still read the bible in its original language before going and accusing Jews of changing the Torah
Talmud is not where we get our laws from its a book of interpretation of laws from the Torah by many many rabbis.
Outrageous, please contact rabbi Tovia Singer, and have a debate, it would be ineresting.
Interesting - an Orthodox Jew called Allah! Subhanallah! I always thought Allah was a liar and confused, you have now confirmed it!
Rabbi Tovia singer is a lier and a joke, why don't you look up the Ancient Synagogues which had icons of humans and prophets.
Rabbi Singer does not even go near Michael Brown or Sam Shamoun. He also opposes many opinions that are completely legitimate within Judaism only for opposing Christianity.
You’re basing all of these off of your rabbinic presuppositions, essentially just restating your positions. We know your positions, we want to what justification you have for those positions. You cannot keep restating “because it’s the Bible” or any such equivalence when your understanding of scriptures and what you consider to be scripture is what’s in question, that’s a circular argument and illogical. You need to appeal to something more. Tovia Singer is a rapist who jumped countries to avoid persecution.
rabbi tovia cherry pick bible and tanakh
Christian priests are more appropriately presbyters and they are antecedents of the rabbis. Basically rabbis were considered another type of priest apart from the Levitical as they were descended from the Prophets.
Any scholarly person could become a rabbi. You dont have to be descended from anybody in particular(You just have to be a Jew). In fact that was the whole point of the rabbis, to do away with the God appointed Levitical priesthood.
@@cervantescisneros712 False. The rabbis were teachers of the Law who descended from the prophetic work of Ezra and the post-exilic prophets and scribes. They only became opposed to the Levitical priesthood when the Maccabeans took royal authority which they felt was illegitimate
He dwells in his people now, Like christ said, do you not know, that ye are a temple, an orthodoxy looks just like the outward show that the roman catholic church put's on, with different lethargy, But I am Moldible, correctable, and teacheable, So I will listen.
This is the most pagen shit I’ve ever heard
I don't think you understand the fundamental question, "Who follows the Bible ...".
The bible is a code of law, with some stories included. It supplies the Jewish Religion with the foundation for jurisprudence, so their religious courts can discern the appropriate way to go, for the civilization. Christianity, meanwhile, is lawless.
The law is exoteric material. Theology of Judaism is esoteric. They get it from other sources because the Torah is designed for the code of law, not theology.
your understanding of the Talmud is very wrong. This a very biased and ignorant comparison. Learn more before you give a talk like this.
Agree.
I disagree. The Talmud is a centuries-later analytical interpretation of the Torah which, like the Tafsir and Hadith of Islam, determines how you interpret the original Torah text. Since Christians do not possess these books, our interpretations are considerably different. The Talmudic interpretations are based entirely on Pharisaical Judaism, which became Rabbinic Judaism. The Judaism Christ preached was Torah Puritanism, not Rabbinic Tradition. Mark Chapter 7 is not about pork, but about Rabbis adding tradition on *top* of the Law of Moses, as He references in Isaiah. The entire NT is about debunking the Rabbinic Tradition. 90% of people miss that.
You ought to explain why someone is ignorant before you simply declare them to be.
@@Jeem196 Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that judaism that Christ preached was more of a separate sect with jesus as the main head of it, instead of torah puritanism? Also, different but slightly related topic, whats your opinion on the karaites in this case? They dont follow the talmud.
Well your oral tradition even showed that you loose trust into God protecting his own oral tradition. You basically burn the torah by writing down the oral torah and you wanna invite us to disobey God and to appoint a false prophet like rabbi akiva did and redefined judaïsm.while WE got the the septuguint from the people of God , high Priest Eleazar who IS the son of onias in the Book of nehemiah.
At 0:18 and already you’re making the first of many errors in this video.
Moses didn’t practice Judaism. Judaism didn’t yet exist at the time of Moses, since Neviim and Ketuvim hadn’t even been written, and without those there is no Jewish Hebrew Bible, aka the TaNaKH.
Judaism is but one of the many extinct and extant immediate descendants of monotheistic Israelite Yahweism religion which worshipped and recognized the existence of only Yahweh, which itself descended from monolatristic Yahweism which recognized the other Canaanite gods’ existence but reserved worship only for Yahweh, which in turn was a descendant of Israelite form of Canaanite polytheism where Yahweh was worshipped with the other gods.
Let us remember that the Israelites were but a subgroup of Canaanites, despite what the Bible says. Hebrew is a Canaanite language and the practices and culture of the earliest Israelites was indistinguishable from other Canaanites. Ancient DNA comparison of Canaanite burial samples show their DNA was similar to that of their Israelite contemporaries, and that the various Jewish communities of today also share that ancient Canaanite/Israelite genetic profile (along with Palestinians who are the culturally Arabized and religiously Christianised or Islamized descendants of Israelites of both the Jewish and Samaritan groups).
Moses certainly practiced the Israelite religion, but it wasn’t yet Judaism.
Samaritanism is also its own descendant of the early Israelite monotheistic religion of Yahweism, diverging at the time of the first Israelite exile from what later became Judaism.
There are two opinions as to the evolution of Christianity. The most accepted by scholars is that Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism.
A minority opinion is that Christianity is a parallel apocalyptic descendant of late Israelite monotheistic Yahweism, closest to Judaism but not descended from it.
So, at most, Judaism and Samaritanism are sister religions and both daughter religions of Yahwehism, while Christianity is a daughter religion of Judaism. Or, Judaism, Samaritanism, and Christianity are all daughter religions of Yahweism.
Either way, Moses didn’t practice Judaism, nor did Abraham, Isaac, nor Jacob. Judaism and Samaritanism are what became of their religion. Christianity too, maybe, if it’s not a descendant of Judaism, but evolved parallel to Judaism.
As for Islam, it is not a descendant of Yahweism, nor of Judaism, nor of Christianity. Islam is instead an independent fusion of some aspect of Judaism, some of aspects of Christianity, and some aspects of Arabian paganism.
Yahweism is a national deity-based religion serving as system of law through cult for the Ancient Israelite nation, not yet messianic.
Samaritanism is also not messianic.
Judaism is messianic.
Christianity is messianic (but with a different concept of a messiah than Judaism) and apocalyptic.
Islam in turn has yet another concept of messiah which is different to both Judaism and also different from Christianity’s.
Samaritanism is messianic.
@@y.l7455 Samaritanism later developed a figure called the Taheb, not quite the same thing as the Messiah of Judaism. The word Taheb itself isn’t even the same or of the same etymology as Messiah in Hebrew (Mashiach) which at least Christianity and Islam share with Judaism even though their concept of messiah are different from Judaism.
During the apocalypse, called "the day of vengeance" in Samaritanism, there will be the end of days, when the Taheb from the tribe of Joseph will come. Note, he is not from the tribe of Judah, as held by Judaism and Christianity (because Christianity accepts the Hebrew Bible in whole).
On the other hand, Islam doesn’t assign the Messiah (who they believe was Jesus) as being from any specific Israelite tribe, just that the Messiah is a member of Bani Isra’il. Jesus’ role in Islam is that of a prophet.
In fact, Islam holds that Jesus isn’t of the Davidic line (which is a requirement of Judaism paternally from a human blood father, and Christianity which assigns it via Mary which goes against Israelite law of lineage, but that’s another issue).
Islam doesn’t consider Jesus’ human fatherless conception (and thus lack of a paternal lineage) as being a problem or of any importance because Islam doesn’t accept the Hebrew Bible’s requirement of patrilineal descent of the Messiah from King David and from the tribe of Judah, in the way Judaism requires it, or Christianity ostensibly claims to require it (yet defectively attempts to attribute that required paternal lineage via the mother rather than the non existent human father).
Thus, the claimed virgin birth of Jesus is accepted by Christianity and Islam, but it is only a problem for Christianity (since tribal affiliation isn’t passed on by mothers under Israelite law), not Islam. By contrast, Judaism holds the messiah will be conceived sexually, will thus not be born of a virgin, rather from a young female not an old female, he will only be human and in no way divine, and he will have a human genetic blood father and mother.
Anyway, I digress. The Taheb will come, be a prophet akin to Moses (not like Jesus), he will not be an anointed king, but he will around for 40 years and bring about the return of all the Israelites to the land of Israel (not just Samaritans or Jews, but all Israelites), following which the dead will be resurrected.
So no, the Samaritans don’t have a Messiah, an anointed figure, a king. Messiah means anointed in Hebrew. The Taheb will be a prophet, not a messiah.
Christianity is pagan because it was used to keep a struggling Rome together. It's why all the westernized holidays overlap pagan holidays, etc... So, no. Westernized Christianity is not the lineage of the "OT" Judaism either.
They overlap pagan holidays because they replaced them in the empires Christianisation. And most of them don't overlap. If Constantine merely wanted to hold the empire together he would have sided with the Arians but instead chose to convene a council to settle what is true.
@@joshuaparsons887, Arians we're always the minority, and considered heretics. Way of on your reasoning historically.
@@halfie25 that isn't true, the semi-Arians were the majority before Nicea
@@joshuaparsons887, Tertullian Trinitarians and pagans were the majority of the region at that time and that is what Constantine was addressing. Arians didn't have the numbers to sway Constantine. To stop a Roman civil war, the Nicene Creed was developed.
Neither. Both would be proud to admit it as well. Both believe Church or Rabbinic tradition is greater than the Bible.That's why you should reject both.
Christianity is completely dependent on the tradition of rabbinic judaism to have it's Bible.---jewish Scriptures and know it's language to make a translatoipn to know what it says.
And orthodox, or other than orthodox christianity, is completely dependent on the catholic church for the new testament.
christianity predates rabbinic judaism, or at least is contemporary to it. There is no dependence between the two
Clean your house up bro!!!! Ain’t nobody trying to see your dusty shelves!!!