It's very good but Ari Vatanen's Pikes Peak climb is the paragon of car videos. Cliff on one side, huge rocks on the other, dirt road, 880 kg 600hp Group-B Peugeot. Pure awesomeness. ua-cam.com/video/UEuZG37gFdM/v-deo.html
Brake into corner: oversteer Turn into corner: oversteer Mid corner: oversteer Accelerate out of corner: oversteer Bumpy road: oversteer Drive in a straight line: oversteer At least it's predictable.
It's an 80's 911. Oversteering everywhere is common trait and has to be adopted in to your driving style if you really want to give it the beans . All older 911's feel the same in that the front can feel quite vague and light and you just have to trust it will grip. Once you get over that, they are the greatest driving machines ever.
@@Lazerus2008 you hit the nail on the head. I had a 1988 911 Carrera Targa and it's true. Once you knew the cars characteristics, I think one would be hard pressed to name a better car providing a better driving experience. This driver looks like he is fighting the car, but in reality the car is giving him all the information he needs to correctly drive it. Hard to explain, but when my driving got spirited on twisty country back roads, I could feel the road through the steering wheel. Every bump, curve, pebble, you name it. And the car just gave me the confidence I wasn't going to eat it. Mine was just a regular 911 3.2 G50 short throw, hardly anything like this RUF, but his driving looks so familiar to me like when I would get on mine.
thezaxxon1982 *“the mass of the guy‘s balls“ that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US.*
counter steering every corner. insanity. maybe he has to counter steer because of the trailer he is hauling behind him. the trailer hes using to haul his massive ballbag..
euroaaRON1 or also if you have any education whatsoever on rwd 911s you would know that a great majority of them tend to oversteer due to the engine being in the rear.
@@obi-wankenobi7160 wow. I realized I loved Porsches alot last year and took it a bit too far. Thanks for checking me pal I was a dick back then, this isn't some shit id say now, because i drive a honda and I can honestly enjoy the driving experience. But ill go along with the lawnmower jokes 😂
Aahh the full video, with probably the best picture quality I've seen yet. Thanks, to this day I can't decide between this or 'climb dance' as the best on board of all time, I just know the two of them make everything else look boring! So amazing.
Mit das beeindruckenste Stück Fahrkunst seitdem es Kameras gibt. Selbst 2015, wo wir Nordschleifenzeiten unter 7 Minuten mit Straßenautos erreichen bleibt dieser CTR Yellowbird faszinierender als eine schnelle Runde mit Porsche 918, Zonda R, Aventador SV oder wie sie alle heißen. Das hier ist automobile Kunst.
dieser wird auch nicht von abs, esp oder psm auf der straße gehalten, sondern von riesigen testikeln. inzwischen kann ja fast jeder der am lenkrad drehen kann eine mehr oder weniger schnelle runde fahren, hier musste man noch jedes bisschen hart erarbeiten.
+Phanthomaas This thing could go sideways through corners faster than most everything going through straight...not to mention it had the stupendous amount of horsepower for that straight-line speed.
@@MmpM123YT inb4 I know this is 2 year old comment but.. That's half the truth. No, drifting is NOT faster than grip unless it is classic 4 wheel drifting where countersteering is kept to absolute minimum. If this video WAS the record lap itself, I am sure he could have gained so much valuable time in places where he decided to go full sideways and smoke the tires, especially slow ones like T13, Adenauer Forst, Wehrseifen, and Ex Mühle. Grip might seem slow and boring but it gives so much more exit speed; its just facts. In other fast corners, he is just frantically trying to keep the car as straight as possible.
Anyone that thinks you can drive fast with one hand on the wheel needs to watch this video. Thanks for posting this. I bought this on VHS from RUF back in the late 90s and wore the tape out.
Grandios ! Nachdem vor über 10 Jahren die kurzen Clips schon zu Recht gefeiert wurden, freu ich mich nun tierisch über die vollständige Aufnahme !! Ganz großes Kino !!
this video is the reason I love motor sport except F1. I was 12 when I first seen this. it's the best driving I've ever seen. it was a special occasion when it was on TV as nobody had the Internet then.thank you RUF.
All this and no flappy paddles... His footwork must be outstanding! There isn't a single part of this video where he isn't fighting the car. It's car control on an immense scale!
+Cian Ha He does on the first Lap shown, for sure. I think he just wanted to get rid of the surplus Profil on his tyres..... Either that's the reason for his drifting or he does it (what we shouldn't forget) because it's a promotional Video :) Anyway it's incredible!
The Z dimension of the track is better represented in this video than on modern HD ones. Video games and HD video make things flat, but there are more hills than that in real life.
OMG this video gets my heart pumping every time I see it! Edit: Also, as he passed people, makes you wonder how many people were thinking "Well, I will see that squirmy Porsche totaled on the next curve because that guy is pushing WAY too hard".....
This guy deserves a medal for predating Vaught Gittin JR. with Drifting The Ring. And this guys car ain't even setup for drifting! Let alone this guy drifted more meters then Jr. ever did in his video while using less tires. Good lord.
Pe Peroni *”Pair of huge steel balls“ that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US.*
Old video of a great car. RUF is to Porsche as Cobra is to Ford or AMG to Mercedes. Saw this for the first time at a Porsche Club event and one of the two RUF brothers was there narrating his brother's wild drive. At conclusion, there were open questions. The first was one of the richer guys who just asked how much and some big price was mentioned along with waiting times. The second question was why he let his brother drive without a helmet. He responded "Well, he's just the marketing guy!". I seem to recall about 9 deposit checks were written that day. And, yes, current 918s and 919s go faster and smoother but - God awmighty - there's NOTHING more exciting than seeing that CTR slide sideways into the turns!
Sorry but Ruf was founded by Alois Ruf and his son, Alois Ruf Jr. He had no brother. Also, the car was driven by Stefan Roser who is definitely not a marketing guy...
All I know (as did my friend attending the event) was Alois Jr was the speaker/presenter and he referred to his brother. The factory test driver was not his brother, but loved to jump in and blast through the old Ring. If my memory is faulty or Alois was reimagining his childhood, I stand corrected. However, you perhaps did not "get" the thrust of this RUF vignette written a year plus ago without comments. It was a Porsche lover talking fondly about one of RUFs greater variations of one of their cars. You were the guy in my fifth grade class who reminded the teacher he'd forgotten to give out the homework assignment aintcha? :-)
That's awesome! I wouldn't say it looks hard to drive, it looks like it's very wieldy & chuckable, gives great driver feedback, but it does look like it doesn't suffer fools at all. You want to get in one of those and wring its neck, you'd better know what you're doing. This is a car that could bite you so HARD if you get in over your head.
The car must have needed a new set of boots after the lap. And never was the nickname for Stefan Roser(Dr Drift) so apt, but always had control of the car. What a great video.
Алекса Раданов Радојловић *Balls of Steel” that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US. Or rundown perestroika communist flat in Russia*
Back when men were men and tyres and suspension hadn't been invented! Unfortunately not may exterior shots but when you see them the slip angles are unbelievable!
Selmerpilot *”Hairy chested man” that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US.*
That car and track are so unforgiving!!!! The 911 is and will always be my favorite car on the planet. And that track is the probably the best track out there. Iv'e never been but did a ton of reading and watching. Some of the best drivers in the world have lost it on that track. I would love to take my competition 325 XI on there and see what it does. It's all H&R and powerflexed out!
I see a lot of comments regarding the steering. It takes a lot of practice to take these curves. The tail likes to drift out because the engine makes the car a sling shot. Once mastered the car can corner like this. Consider the 911 lost by 1 second in a race with a Veyron. He lost it in one turn and that was it. I like Bugatti but I can afford a Porcshe, and I can suffer the indignation.
Ruf ctr 1 based on 1987 930 carrera 3.2. They enlarged the engine to 3.4 and added 2 turbos. Altough i already saw some ctr from 1990 what is converted from 964 carrera 2. But the real is 930.
It's ok cause the chassis is same from the first long wheel base 911/901 to 911/993. Many tuner converting to the newer or back to to the older model. Perfect example is the singer design 911. They converted back a 964 to 901 wide body.I mean 901 RSR body. The difference between the 930 and 964 is very slightly. 964 rather more about the tech like abs, air bag, 4 wheel drive.
This remains to this day the greatest car video on the internet
Pedro Silva You both said it! 👍🏻
And this one too: ua-cam.com/video/96ekbvjyr0g/v-deo.html
It's very good but Ari Vatanen's Pikes Peak climb is the paragon of car videos. Cliff on one side, huge rocks on the other, dirt road, 880 kg 600hp Group-B Peugeot. Pure awesomeness. ua-cam.com/video/UEuZG37gFdM/v-deo.html
Have you seen Motoharu Kurosawas R32 GTR lap?
Also incredible ua-cam.com/video/G50LuP28PGM/v-deo.html
Brake into corner: oversteer
Turn into corner: oversteer
Mid corner: oversteer
Accelerate out of corner: oversteer
Bumpy road: oversteer
Drive in a straight line: oversteer
At least it's predictable.
lol
It's an 80's 911. Oversteering everywhere is common trait and has to be adopted in to your driving style if you really want to give it the beans . All older 911's feel the same in that the front can feel quite vague and light and you just have to trust it will grip. Once you get over that, they are the greatest driving machines ever.
oh good, at least someone else saw that too. have never seen any, much less so many, oversteers in a rear-engine anything!
The ol' girl like to rotate that's for sure... loose is fast!!!
@@Lazerus2008 you hit the nail on the head. I had a 1988 911 Carrera Targa and it's true. Once you knew the cars characteristics, I think one would be hard pressed to name a better car providing a better driving experience. This driver looks like he is fighting the car, but in reality the car is giving him all the information he needs to correctly drive it. Hard to explain, but when my driving got spirited on twisty country back roads, I could feel the road through the steering wheel. Every bump, curve, pebble, you name it. And the car just gave me the confidence I wasn't going to eat it. Mine was just a regular 911 3.2 G50 short throw, hardly anything like this RUF, but his driving looks so familiar to me like when I would get on mine.
To be fair, the mass of this guy's balls did move the car's balance point forward a foot and a half.
I guess that helped neutralise the famous rear engined handling and bring the car's polar moment of inertia more central :P
Yeah
That must be the secret
thezaxxon1982 *“the mass of the guy‘s balls“ that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US.*
I love how the serene helicopter view of the car belies the utter insanity going on inside it
Some say, he's still counter steering to this day.
It's the car doing that lol It was too much
It is astonishing to see just how violent and how smooth it is, at the same time.
counter steering every corner. insanity.
maybe he has to counter steer because of the trailer he is hauling behind him.
the trailer hes using to haul his massive ballbag..
euroaaRON1 or also if you have any education whatsoever on rwd 911s you would know that a great majority of them tend to oversteer due to the engine being in the rear.
This car wants to kill you on every corner
@@pinkvitz7208 lighten up pup, its Sunday...
@@obi-wankenobi7160 wow. I realized I loved Porsches alot last year and took it a bit too far. Thanks for checking me pal I was a dick back then, this isn't some shit id say now, because i drive a honda and I can honestly enjoy the driving experience. But ill go along with the lawnmower jokes 😂
*”Massive ball bag” that is a puerile remark! Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US.*
Aahh the full video, with probably the best picture quality I've seen yet. Thanks, to this day I can't decide between this or 'climb dance' as the best on board of all time, I just know the two of them make everything else look boring! So amazing.
Spot on mate! Both vids are and will always be the ultimate car videos ever recorded.
No helmet
No gloves
No racing suit
Just massive balls and white socks
The good ol days
It doesn't get any better or tougher than that!!!!! It takes a skilled man to handle a 911 like that and that track is ridiculous!!!!!!!!
Mit das beeindruckenste Stück Fahrkunst seitdem es Kameras gibt. Selbst 2015, wo wir Nordschleifenzeiten unter 7 Minuten mit Straßenautos erreichen bleibt dieser CTR Yellowbird faszinierender als eine schnelle Runde mit Porsche 918, Zonda R, Aventador SV oder wie sie alle heißen. Das hier ist automobile Kunst.
dieser wird auch nicht von abs, esp oder psm auf der straße gehalten, sondern von riesigen testikeln. inzwischen kann ja fast jeder der am lenkrad drehen kann eine mehr oder weniger schnelle runde fahren, hier musste man noch jedes bisschen hart erarbeiten.
Sooo...much....oversteer :D LOVE it. The guy is wrestling that car like there's no tomorrow.
Even on Assetto Corsa I don't dare to drive this car like that... Great Stuf !
+Vincent Martin Me on PCars neither! But im playing with gamepad. But i LOVE it!
I do, its the best :D Im driving it same way.
THE car that tamed the F40, 959, 288, everything. The king of The Ring.
How on earth could this thing hold the track record for several years??? It's pretty much drifting through it...
+Phanthomaas This thing could go sideways through corners faster than most everything going through straight...not to mention it had the stupendous amount of horsepower for that straight-line speed.
I'm sure the actual timed lap was driven neatly and properly, this was just showboating for the promotional video
@@energymc22 nope
This is how this car drives
If you want to drive it cleaner
You ll have to sacrifice speed
energymc22 this is the record. I believe the second lap was the record lap that lasted almost 20years!
@@MmpM123YT inb4 I know this is 2 year old comment but.. That's half the truth. No, drifting is NOT faster than grip unless it is classic 4 wheel drifting where countersteering is kept to absolute minimum. If this video WAS the record lap itself, I am sure he could have gained so much valuable time in places where he decided to go full sideways and smoke the tires, especially slow ones like T13, Adenauer Forst, Wehrseifen, and Ex Mühle. Grip might seem slow and boring but it gives so much more exit speed; its just facts. In other fast corners, he is just frantically trying to keep the car as straight as possible.
This is the smoothest-looking version of this video I've yet seen. Well done.
Holy balls, this is one of my most favorite driving videos ever. Already seen it twice in a row, I just can't stop!!
Anyone that thinks you can drive fast with one hand on the wheel needs to watch this video. Thanks for posting this. I bought this on VHS from RUF back in the late 90s and wore the tape out.
The great Stefan Roser at work, love this vid!
Grandios ! Nachdem vor über 10 Jahren die kurzen Clips schon zu Recht gefeiert wurden, freu ich mich nun tierisch über die vollständige Aufnahme !! Ganz großes Kino !!
this video is the reason I love motor sport except F1. I was 12 when I first seen this. it's the best driving I've ever seen. it was a special occasion when it was on TV as nobody had the Internet then.thank you RUF.
12:35 Goosebumps all over
Mr Roser thanks for this real driving experience
All this and no flappy paddles... His footwork must be outstanding! There isn't a single part of this video where he isn't fighting the car. It's car control on an immense scale!
Awesome how he steers more left in a right hander and more to the right in a lefthander because of that constant oversteer :-D
+Marcel Pfister cus of the drifting :)
+john stocks He seems to provoke oversteer on every single corner!
+Cian Ha He does on the first Lap shown, for sure. I think he just wanted to get rid of the surplus Profil on his tyres..... Either that's the reason for his drifting or he does it (what we shouldn't forget) because it's a promotional Video :)
Anyway it's incredible!
+Rudy De La Luz
i know it´s a blast to drive and one of the most fun cars in the game
+Cheetah1979 Do you have aids? (-:
the force is strong with this one
The Z dimension of the track is better represented in this video than on modern HD ones. Video games and HD video make things flat, but there are more hills than that in real life.
The driver earned his keep that day. My arms are worn out from just watching him.
No helmet at 10/10ths around "one of the safest race tracks in the world." (Bowing down)
Chris O "WE'RE NOT WORTHY, WE'RE NOT WORTHY!" 😄
On behalf of all the petrolheads: THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS FULL-LENGTH VIDEO
7:58 DO NOT LIFT ✔️
I know right. I try to practice not lifting in my BWM 535is. Similar but different, nowhere near the pendulum effect present in the Porsche.
Man, this guy could really drive. What a great advert for RUF this was back in the day.
Fantastic driving! That is some of the best Porsche driving I've see!
OMG this video gets my heart pumping every time I see it!
Edit: Also, as he passed people, makes you wonder how many people were thinking "Well, I will see that squirmy Porsche totaled on the next curve because that guy is pushing WAY too hard".....
That moment you realize even a helicopter can't track your goddamn fast driving
That's a REAL driver. Those things were widowmakers...
This guy deserves a medal for predating Vaught Gittin JR. with Drifting The Ring. And this guys car ain't even setup for drifting! Let alone this guy drifted more meters then Jr. ever did in his video while using less tires. Good lord.
I never get tired of this footage. I only have to stop because my cheeks hurt from constantly grinning.
jeeeeezus christ...a pair of huge steel baaaaalls driving a car! this guys got baaalls! best driving ever...and what a car!
Pe Peroni *”Pair of huge steel balls“ that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US.*
That Kesselchen - Klostertal section is unreal.
Speed? Check. Counter steer ? Check. T-Shirt and flip flops? Check.
Dead bugs on windshield? Damn...
Overtaking bikers on narrow corners while going sideways? Check, check, check!...
Those are white socks in slip-ons. German style perfection.
Kein Helm Prüfen
I heard that there were dead bugs down the sides of the car as well.
Esse cara toca demais, só faz curva de lado! Meu novo ídolo!
Didnt know Michael Jackson was such a good driver.
Jeebus, talk about "hand inputs". He uses Scandinavian slick to manhandle the car in just about every corner... "Sideways Steven".
I've watched this video a ton of times and it still gets my adrenaline up, Ruf builds masterpieces for the uncompromising driver.
Voice over translator sounds like Kreiger (from Archer)!!!!
I think we just witnessed a masterclass in counter steering.
Hahaha what a hooligran! You can see him flicking the wheel on the way into the corner.
Old video of a great car. RUF is to Porsche as Cobra is to Ford or AMG to Mercedes. Saw this for the first time at a Porsche Club event and one of the two RUF brothers was there narrating his brother's wild drive. At conclusion, there were open questions. The first was one of the richer guys who just asked how much and some big price was mentioned along with waiting times. The second question was why he let his brother drive without a helmet. He responded "Well, he's just the marketing guy!". I seem to recall about 9 deposit checks were written that day. And, yes, current 918s and 919s go faster and smoother but - God awmighty - there's NOTHING more exciting than seeing that CTR slide sideways into the turns!
Sorry but Ruf was founded by Alois Ruf and his son, Alois Ruf Jr. He had no brother. Also, the car was driven by Stefan Roser who is definitely not a marketing guy...
All I know (as did my friend attending the event) was Alois Jr was the speaker/presenter and he referred to his brother. The factory test driver was not his brother, but loved to jump in and blast through the old Ring. If my memory is faulty or Alois was reimagining his childhood, I stand corrected. However, you perhaps did not "get" the thrust of this RUF vignette written a year plus ago without comments. It was a Porsche lover talking fondly about one of RUFs greater variations of one of their cars. You were the guy in my fifth grade class who reminded the teacher he'd forgotten to give out the homework assignment aintcha? :-)
That's gotta be one of the best ever onboard driving clips of all time. I love it!!!!!!!!
he's fucking killing it. gan on son!
That's awesome! I wouldn't say it looks hard to drive, it looks like it's very wieldy & chuckable, gives great driver feedback, but it does look like it doesn't suffer fools at all. You want to get in one of those and wring its neck, you'd better know what you're doing. This is a car that could bite you so HARD if you get in over your head.
Oh yes , you power the Porsche through a curve. Love that drift.
I'm not sure it's as much driving as it is wrestling. My god that was madness. Spectacular.
Wahnsinn!!! Ohne Helm, ohne Handschuhe - einfach nur die reine Kunst des Fahrens! Chapeáu! 👌
It’s a real sport’s car 👍🏁
Wow. Thanks for sharing this video. Astounding vehicle and astounding driving.
AC nicely converted this awsome driving style, great car !!
Großes Kino, was Tennissöckchen da macht!
No helmet, and delivers the best time (at that time), with traffic. AMAZING.
Those days when sport cars were trilling not posing machines!.. and drivers had skills and balls!!!
Die Stimme des (englischsprachigen) Kommentators erinnert mich sehr an die (deutsche) Stimme von Kent Brockman
So crazy. He never turns into a corner, he just stops correcting for a second and the car goes somewhere.
Drifting before it was cool
Playing this car in ProjectCARS. Same thing. like exactly the same.
Oversteer in every corner. And hard to control at high speeds.
KEWL
The car must have needed a new set of boots after the lap. And never was the nickname for Stefan Roser(Dr Drift) so apt, but always had control of the car. What a great video.
That's what I call driving!
6:49 - I wonder could he have even in his wildest dreams imagine he will be in a video on YT one way or the other in that part of the track.
porsche 930 turbo,amazing cars and one hell of a driver...the dude is wearing penny loafers,crazy
This is far beyond a 930; but it wasn't even based on the 930! They actually built the CTR out of the base Carrera 3.2.
Huge skill and balls of steel
Алекса Раданов Радојловић *Balls of Steel” that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US. Or rundown perestroika communist flat in Russia*
Golden 80s - YEAH!!!
white socks, can't be beat.
i like how you hear his foot tap on the pedal, half second later the car is sideways :)
It's like arm wrestling at high speed. He knows his car and the turns. No guts no glory.
Back when men were men and tyres and suspension hadn't been invented! Unfortunately not may exterior shots but when you see them the slip angles are unbelievable!
hairy chested man driving right there
Selmerpilot *”Hairy chested man” that is a puerile remark. Grow up and attend the evening class near your council flat or trailer park if you live in the US.*
Epic
If it weren't for the sound, I'd wonder if he was driving on rims or tires. :P
That car and track are so unforgiving!!!! The 911 is and will always be my favorite car on the planet. And that track is the probably the best track out there. Iv'e never been but did a ton of reading and watching. Some of the best drivers in the world have lost it on that track. I would love to take my competition 325 XI on there and see what it does. It's all H&R and powerflexed out!
Man, how the hell does he keep control at 7:57 when the car comes out of the cambered section and the rear is literally just thrown sideways?
quick hands and loads of balls not to lift the gas ;)
Every time I watch this video, I shit my pants. He (Stefan Roser) is constantly battling with the car! Man vs Machine
PENSE NUM PILOTO!! // OMG THA'S THE REAL DEFINITION OF "DRIVER"
Ich gehe auch ganz stark davon aus, dass Walter Röhrl gefahren ist ;)
Spontan fällt mir nur ein Mensch ein, der so fahren kann. Ist der Fahrer zufällig Walter Röhrl? Weiß das jemand? Ein absolut atemberaubendes Video.
+Frank Ryschka RUF Testfahrer Stefan Roser
+Frank Ryschka Horst von Sauma hat ihn gefahren!
Röhrl ist gut, aber es gibt noch genug andere gute Rennfahrer.
Gibt es dieses Video noch mit der Originalen Deutschen Vertonung?
The guy throws down driving technique like that in loafers. Man!
Best Nordschleife Video ever, lets hit 1mio views as soon as possible :-D
Lol this video has been seen millions of times already, it was viral before youtube and facebook even existed
yeah, but not from their official page, option auto has it online for years, i know
I would be very interested to see heir Stefan Roser's footwork in this drive.
Man, what a hero.
So great man, great driving.
this is "climb dance" levels of driving
Champagne driving.👏👏
Just 1 question!
Was the cameraman sit on the back?!
What kind of camera did they use at that time?! 😅
7 people are seriously frightened by oversteer............. :)
7 people were on motorcycles at the track that day! 😄
7 people think Formula E is exciting to watch 😂😂😂 Ok that's it, I'm sorry, I'm done.
German logic to its best. Turn left to go right, turn right to go left. Like a real proper Porsche is driven
I see a lot of comments regarding the steering. It takes a lot of practice to take these curves. The tail likes to drift out because the engine makes the car a sling shot. Once mastered the car can corner like this. Consider the 911 lost by 1 second in a race with a Veyron. He lost it in one turn and that was it. I like Bugatti but I can afford a Porcshe, and I can suffer the indignation.
Drive it like you stole it... That's awesome!
That looks terrifying.
Trust me, it is, especially in a 911 with that sort of power!
At 16:40, a freaking beautiful shot. And this driver makes the Stig look like Pee Wee Herman. This is the most awesome ring video I have ever seen.
this car is big dangerous nice drive
God damn this guy can drive, anyone know who he is?
RUF Testdriver Stefan Roser
"sideways Stefan"
Wasnt this a 964 BTR? I remember them being called Big Turbo Ruf Yellowbird
or better by complete 911 Gruppe B Turbo Ruf Yellowbird
Ruf ctr 1 based on 1987 930 carrera 3.2. They enlarged the engine to 3.4 and added 2 turbos. Altough i already saw some ctr from 1990 what is converted from 964 carrera 2. But the real is 930.
ah ok thanks, could not tell what was what....
what a shame
It's ok cause the chassis is same from the first long wheel base 911/901 to 911/993. Many tuner converting to the newer or back to to the older model. Perfect example is the singer design 911. They converted back a 964 to 901 wide body.I mean 901 RSR body. The difference between the 930 and 964 is very slightly. 964 rather more about the tech like abs, air bag, 4 wheel drive.