Totally agree. Baseball is not like basketball or football where you can make sure your best player decides the game. One person doesn’t make that big a difference. Having said that, I think it’s true that the addition of Soto is what pushed the Yankees over the finish line to the World Series.
If pujols in his prime wasn't worth $600 million, there is no way in hell Soto is worth that. Plus, pujols was solid defensively. and Soto didn't even reach ohtani's batting numbers last season and obviously, doesn't steal bases or pitch or have the marketing clout which all go to justifying ohtani's deal.
Soto isn’t a superstar. He’s only a star in the baseball world. Ohtani is not only a superstar, he’s an international superstar. I wouldn’t pay Soto more than $450 million.
That's your opinion...Soto can become a Superstar and already has the numbers at a young age to prove it! No one called Shohei a Superstar when he was 25 either!
@@mattschultz5155 I’m not doubting his ability to hit but at best he’s an average outfielder and below average as a runner,not worth 600k or above, Ohtani is an elite hitter and a pitcher to boot!
Ohtani is boring...not as fun to watch! He looks like a statue at the plate with no expression on his face? What's so fun about that? I'd rather see Soto hit!
@@mattschultz5155 that's idiotic. Ohtani is not only a better hitter than Soto. He's an elite pitcher and base runner. Not many people are excited to watch Soto draw walks at the plate. lmao
@@mattschultz5155you obviously didn’t watch a single Ohtani at bat this season. So your opinion doesn’t matter. Soto doesn’t bring in a whole new market to watch. He hasn’t won MVPs before this deal. He isnt a pitcher let alone a gold glove fielder. If he gets paid $600 million, that is one dumb mofo team 😂😂😂
@@mattschultz5155yea but Ohtani has the merchandise as the Japan tv right and the dodgers get money for that. Do you think the Dominican people will bring that income for Soto? And I’m Dominican btw. Soto is good , but not over 600M good. After 5 years into the contract he’ll get he’ll be a great hitting DH not a power biting DH
@@brandondillman5841 I disagree...OHTANI DID NOT HAVE THESE STATS AT 25! HE WON HIS FIRST MVP AT 26. His hitting was no where near Sotos level when he was 25. Soto will smack his stats at 30 years old just you wait and see! You can have your 50/50 that's not all hitting. Stealing causes injuries anyway and looks like Ohtani might be sitting more next year after crashing to 2nd base
Agreed! I'll take Santander 20mil, Adames 30mil, Fried 25mil, and trade for Bellinger. They combined production will be more than Soto, and plug in much needed holes. It also lengthened our lineup
@@euripideseusebio5404Because he only hits good & gets on base at a high level, defense is so so, don't steal bases. Ohtani is worth every penny. Defense, hits, steal bases, and a ace pitcher
@ first of all, Soto doesn’t just hit well. Soto gets on base almost every turn. Soto is good hitter also in playoffs and World Series. Defensively he was the player with most assists and was top 5 for the gold glove. Ohtani is a designated hitter and soon will stop stolen bases because managers won’t keep risking lose him because of an injury. Ohtani won’t pitch this year either and is a lot older than Soto. Soto is rising and Ohtani in one or two years will start to decline.
You cant walk in tokyo without seeing at least 5 ohtani ads 😂 his face is everywhere. No wonder he deffer all his contract, dude already loaded with ads money.
Yankee fan ever since I was nine years old, when George bought the team. I want Soto. I don't want him for $600M for the reason just stated. The last baseball game I attended at Dodger Stadium was 2009. I sat in the reserved section (blue) behind home plate, which is just below the top of the park (red). I paid $45 for that seat which goes for between $85-110, depending on the visiting team. The last baseball game I attended was in five years later in Oakland. I sat in the field level seats right behind home plate, about 40 yards from the actual plate. I paid about $40 for that seat. I will not attend professional sporting events any more because it is _literally_ not worth it. Attending a Steeler home game is on my bucket list, but that's about it. The driving, the cost of parking, the people (too often rude), the cost of the seat, and the exit process is not a good investment of my time, my money, or my sanity. Let the man get whatever he can get from whomever he can get it from...I'm not chipping in.
!00% agree with you. I just came back from Osaka Japan. It seems to me that the whole country are Dodger fans. Ohtani is to baseball what MJ was to basketball.
yeah, kinda... Ohtani brings in sponsorship and a whole country as an audience, not even mentioning that he deserves his 700M value for being productive on two skill sets (dude made history as a hitter while rehabbing as a pitcher ffs). I can't see Soto being valued the same way ngl.
500M for Soto would be a monster contract, 600M+ is crazy if he goes to like to Toranto would they even get their money back? Maybe a big city market like New York or LA can maybe make the money back with advertisement and raising prices. Soto is not similar to Ohtani because Ohtani brings Japan viewership and advertisement money. And i saw first hand when I went to Japan in September/ October.
No athlete is worth the amount of money they are being paid. The salaries have become so ridiculous that regular Joe and his family are lucky to afford one game a year. And that’s really sad. I love live sports but I have to limit that enjoyment to a few times a year because I simply cannot afford anymore
you are worth what someone is willing to pay you. By definition, salaries are a definitive measure of worth. they are not worth it to you, because you don't make money off of them. The clubs wouldn't pay if they weren't making profits off of them
I'm thinking the same as Dan here. OPS is overrated. He hit 41 homeruns and only hit .286...282 with runners in scoring position. So he gets on, hits for power but doesn't drive in many runs. You could get two Ace pitchers and position player who fits the bill just fine.
@kyle2441 talk about hyperbole...sheesh! Agree to disagree. I see your Yankees icon. Your team can keep him. As a Dodger fan, I have zero interest in my team signing him. If Soto really wants $701M, then, the team paying that is foolish. Ohtani got $700M because he is an ace pitcher and hitter.
@@coreyweber2340 go look at league average on-base than do Sotos... go look at look average ops and ops+ than look at his.... go look at how many players that has had 25 homeruns and 125 walks in a single season.. Youl see 4 player's.. Bonds, Ruth, Ted Williams and Soto... I dunno you might have heard of those players they were pretty good dont ya think ?
I hate to admit..I been waiting for him to sign with the Yankees already..but this makes so much sense..600 million for a one trick pony when you can spread that 50 plus around 3 players plus add more with the remaining prior $300 budget a year as a team..I want walker and a trade for 3rd baseman…burnes
I’m a Blue Jays fan and we’re in the race apparently. Think this is exactly our position, do you prefer Soto or Vladdy and Bo? Bo had one bad season but both are under 26 yo in their prime.
Depends on the contract. Vladdy at his best is a 6-7 WAR player. Bo is a 5-6 WAR player. So if you can sign both of them for around the same price as Soto I'd much rather do that.
With his performance in the 2019 WS and his entertainment and he is lock in at the plate, When hitting but his performance in the 2024 WS is not worth 680mill. The Reason Showtime get 700mill because he brings a fan base, Soto brings a fan base as well just not as Big as Showtime, I like Juan Soto and I’m A White Sox fan
i dunno. the amount of money i’ve spent as a dodgers fan hasn’t changed at all since they signed ohtani. i only go to a few games a year so maybe im not the “you” in that statement. maybe season ticket holders are spending more?
@@markbailey17 Baseball is one of the most parity sports I have seen come up in my life. It is not like NBA, NHL or NFL. I just like Dodgers are spending money to entertain their fans and giving a shot to championship 🙏
Nah a Penny pinching owner and him just being a genuine POS, and a shitty town thats destroyed any semblance of pity due to their actions. Both can be true. Soto is not worth 600m. He should be in the 350m contract range. Ohtani is the only player in the MLB worth 600-700m because he EASILY brings in 70m per year in advertising and sales alone.
@@w00deey12 HE did bring it in. Ohtani was alone worth $178m in sales, tickets, advertising and such in 2022 for the angels. When he first came to the angels he was bringing in around 50m in those, Again WELL worth the contract. When he started having massive success it skyrocketed.
Ridiculous. I remember Dave Winfield signing with the Yankees . The outrage over the money. I wouldn't pay any grown man to play a little boys sport. I'd pay a good teacher to educate my kids .This country is ridiculous on who gets paid. Teachers get shit, but run fast and catch a ball like a child we will give you millions . Stupid
If it's a little boys sport then that means it's something easily done, so why aren't you out there doing it? And Secondly, if it is simply about education, then why are they making more than you while playing a kids game?
Dan, I’ve said this so many times but yall really need to just stop with baseball coverage at this point. Until yall bring someone in house with some baseball knowledge or educate yourselves, you’re just bringing completely inadequate analysis.
Anybid above 55 AAV or 550 mio for Soto is ridiculous. He can't run, can't defense, can't bring massive revenues off field. He's only value is good hitting and 26. 5 or 6 years from now, Soto already DHing. Even so,, he'll be overpaid regardless.
He is not even worth half of that. He is a one-dimensional player. He biggest assets are he gets on base and he hits for power. I saw ever single one of his plate appearances when he was a Padre. There were countless times he was over selective at the plate and drew a walk when he needed to expand the zone to put the ball in play and drive in a run. Fans are not drawn to buy tickets to see walks. Even if he was somekind of great base stealer it still would justify that amount of money. He is an average defensive player with average arm. Sure he has a great on-base percentage and slugging numbers. All we heard prior to his acquisition to the Padres was he was the next Ted Williams. Really? Thats an insult to Ted Williams. He wasn't even the next Fernando Tatis Jr. nor even a Tony Gywnn. No one stopped what they were doing to see his at bat like those other two. Its not to say I wouldn't want him on my team but not for that outrageous amount of money. Ohtani on the other hand is not only a tremendous hitter but also a number one starting pitcher. He is a five-tool player who allows a team to tap the market of an entire country like Japan. That alone justifies his contract. Im sorry Soto is far from being worth spending even 400 million. The Padres recieved 5 players in return for him in a trade 2 who were major contributers and another was traded to land a front line starter like Dylan Cease. The remaining two showed signs of being pretty good MLB pitchers. At the time of the trade everyone was disappointed but in retrospect it turned out to be better to have those Five than one Juan Soto.
Nobody knows what Soto will do. All of these reports on media are nothing but a waste of time. You, at least, take a different look on this and suggest they get multiple players
I watch Judge but not Soto.soto had MVP?Record contract players has MVP before big contract.Soto can bring big money to team like Ohtani?I don’t think so.To me No is I feel same.
Dan’s being obtuse on this one because he’s massively undervaluing on-base percentage and Soto’s age. His lifetime on-base percentage is .421, that’s Mickey Mantle & and Shoeless Joe Jackson territory. He’s averaging per 162 games: 35hr, 100+ rbi, 100+ runs, 130 bb. A player’s prime is about age 26-32. He’s entering his age 26 season. Players with that type of plate discipline and power are rare. These type of players become free agents in their mid 20’s maybe once a generation.
At 26 he’s a terrible base runner with no speed… limited RF ( have you ever really watched him in the field?) and was a so-so LF in DC( I live here and watched him from the LF bleachers)…
@ Well that’s true but you’re not paying him because he’s a good base runner or a good fielder. You’re paying him because he has insane plate discipline, has 30+ HR power, and hits .285. And the other big factor is he’s 26 years old and just entering his baseball prime. Go back and check since 1946 the players with a .410+ on-base percentage and 200+ HR, it’s a short list: T. Williams, B. Bonds, SOTO, M. Mantle, F. Thomas, E. Martinez, S. Musial, Helton, M. Ramirez, & M. Trout. Helton’s numbers are skewed because of Coors Field. Mantle’s legs were pretty much shot by the time he was 28-29 years old. The only 2 guys on that list that were consistently good fielders and base runners on that list were Bonds & Trout.
I dont like how Ohtani stands in the box like a statue with no expression or emotion! Ive seen him get angry at the Umps before also for calling a strike a strike and shaking his head violently. I dont like that he has no fun playing baseball and looks so serious all the time. He makes all this money and looks so grumpy
Soto is perhaps the best hitter in the game right now, has been proven to not choke in the postseason unlike judge and he’s only 26 years old, ya just mad cause he ain’t coming back
Just because his defense isnt elite doesn't mean he's not building an amazing fan base!! Look at Harper defense not that great but has many fans! Soto will definitely have more and probably already does!
@@mattschultz5155 Harper is a 2 time MVP and fan favorite. He's box office. Soto is great, but his greatness is his plate discipline. That's about as boring as it gets unless you're a hardcore fan.
Cmon Dan, its baseball literally globally aside of South Korea and Japan who really cares for baseball not included Latino countries but even they would rather cheer for their own people. Stop pushing that countries like Germany, Indonesia, Nigeria care for baseball.
Hes not worth 600m. This is how you limit your team and make a catastrophic mistake. HE can play AMAZING for the next 8 years, but then they cant really sign anyone else. You are limited to a few max players (unless they differ a TON of the money) and then you have to fill in. Yankees already have Judge and Stanton AND Gerrit Coles contracts. They quite literally cannot sign more people without doing some financial gymnastics like the dodgers. The Dodgers owners are in win now mode, probably trying to win 3-5 championships then sell the team at the highest value to get a return on the investment.
Totally agree. Baseball is not like basketball or football where you can make sure your best player decides the game. One person doesn’t make that big a difference. Having said that, I think it’s true that the addition of Soto is what pushed the Yankees over the finish line to the World Series.
If pujols in his prime wasn't worth $600 million, there is no way in hell Soto is worth that. Plus, pujols was solid defensively. and Soto didn't even reach ohtani's batting numbers last season and obviously, doesn't steal bases or pitch or have the marketing clout which all go to justifying ohtani's deal.
$600m during Pujols' prime is like $800m or higher today
I love Soto but I totally agree with you about Pujols. Pujols Prime was Insane, easily in todays market he will be worth 700 or 800 million 💯
@@RealJeffTidwell FACTS 💯
@@kjmh90not really. Pujols is worth 500 Million easily. 700 million no way. Thats only shohei ohtani. If Pujols is worth 700 ohtani is 1 billion.
It’s the timing guys. It’s perfect timing for him to make this money. He will get 200 million more than he should. Can’t blame him
Soto isn’t a superstar. He’s only a star in the baseball world. Ohtani is not only a superstar, he’s an international superstar. I wouldn’t pay Soto more than $450 million.
That's your opinion...Soto can become a Superstar and already has the numbers at a young age to prove it! No one called Shohei a Superstar when he was 25 either!
@@mattschultz5155 I’m not doubting his ability to hit but at best he’s an average outfielder and below average as a runner,not worth 600k or above, Ohtani is an elite hitter and a pitcher to boot!
10/280~300
@@bigwerrmwindycity5619that like saying big papi wasn’t a superstar.
Shohei is also a great pitcher lol
Soto is not marketable He will not bring value like Ohtani
Soto is not Box Office,Ohtani is, but Soto will get overpaid
Ohtani is boring...not as fun to watch! He looks like a statue at the plate with no expression on his face? What's so fun about that? I'd rather see Soto hit!
@@mattschultz5155 that's idiotic. Ohtani is not only a better hitter than Soto. He's an elite pitcher and base runner. Not many people are excited to watch Soto draw walks at the plate. lmao
@@mattschultz5155you obviously didn’t watch a single Ohtani at bat this season. So your opinion doesn’t matter. Soto doesn’t bring in a whole new market to watch. He hasn’t won MVPs before this deal. He isnt a pitcher let alone a gold glove fielder. If he gets paid $600 million, that is one dumb mofo team 😂😂😂
@@mattschultz5155yea but Ohtani has the merchandise as the Japan tv right and the dodgers get money for that. Do you think the Dominican people will bring that income for Soto? And I’m Dominican btw. Soto is good , but not over 600M good. After 5 years into the contract he’ll get he’ll be a great hitting DH not a power biting DH
@@brandondillman5841 I disagree...OHTANI DID NOT HAVE THESE STATS AT 25! HE WON HIS FIRST MVP AT 26. His hitting was no where near Sotos level when he was 25. Soto will smack his stats at 30 years old just you wait and see! You can have your 50/50 that's not all hitting. Stealing causes injuries anyway and looks like Ohtani might be sitting more next year after crashing to 2nd base
Soto is overrated
10/280~300
How is that?
Agreed! I'll take Santander 20mil, Adames 30mil, Fried 25mil, and trade for Bellinger. They combined production will be more than Soto, and plug in much needed holes. It also lengthened our lineup
@@euripideseusebio5404Because he only hits good & gets on base at a high level, defense is so so, don't steal bases. Ohtani is worth every penny.
Defense, hits, steal bases, and a ace pitcher
@ first of all, Soto doesn’t just hit well. Soto gets on base almost every turn. Soto is good hitter also in playoffs and World Series. Defensively he was the player with most assists and was top 5 for the gold glove. Ohtani is a designated hitter and soon will stop stolen bases because managers won’t keep risking lose him because of an injury.
Ohtani won’t pitch this year either and is a lot older than Soto. Soto is rising and Ohtani in one or two years will start to decline.
You cant walk in tokyo without seeing at least 5 ohtani ads 😂 his face is everywhere. No wonder he deffer all his contract, dude already loaded with ads money.
Yankee fan ever since I was nine years old, when George bought the team. I want Soto. I don't want him for $600M for the reason just stated. The last baseball game I attended at Dodger Stadium was 2009. I sat in the reserved section (blue) behind home plate, which is just below the top of the park (red). I paid $45 for that seat which goes for between $85-110, depending on the visiting team. The last baseball game I attended was in five years later in Oakland. I sat in the field level seats right behind home plate, about 40 yards from the actual plate. I paid about $40 for that seat. I will not attend professional sporting events any more because it is _literally_ not worth it. Attending a Steeler home game is on my bucket list, but that's about it. The driving, the cost of parking, the people (too often rude), the cost of the seat, and the exit process is not a good investment of my time, my money, or my sanity. Let the man get whatever he can get from whomever he can get it from...I'm not chipping in.
!00% agree with you. I just came back from Osaka Japan. It seems to me that the whole country are Dodger fans. Ohtani is to baseball what MJ was to basketball.
You are 100% correct
He's 100% wrong!
He was 100% correct also last year with Ohtani right? ua-cam.com/video/sorcQdejMZA/v-deo.htmlsi=fjNGe_QQ0gW7ZsFl
yeah, kinda... Ohtani brings in sponsorship and a whole country as an audience, not even mentioning that he deserves his 700M value for being productive on two skill sets (dude made history as a hitter while rehabbing as a pitcher ffs).
I can't see Soto being valued the same way ngl.
im so sick of this madness as a yankee fan Please let him go!
500M for Soto would be a monster contract, 600M+ is crazy if he goes to like to Toranto would they even get their money back? Maybe a big city market like New York or LA can maybe make the money back with advertisement and raising prices.
Soto is not similar to Ohtani because Ohtani brings Japan viewership and advertisement money. And i saw first hand when I went to Japan in September/ October.
I agree with Dan.
Yeah...and last year dud you agree with Dan? ua-cam.com/video/sorcQdejMZA/v-deo.htmlsi=fjNGe_QQ0gW7ZsFl
As a Yankees fan I agree. Give me three left-handed bats for the home park. Their defense will be a bonus. Let Soto walk.
No athlete is worth the amount of money they are being paid. The salaries have become so ridiculous that regular Joe and his family are lucky to afford one game a year. And that’s really sad. I love live sports but I have to limit that enjoyment to a few times a year because I simply cannot afford anymore
you are worth what someone is willing to pay you. By definition, salaries are a definitive measure of worth. they are not worth it to you, because you don't make money off of them. The clubs wouldn't pay if they weren't making profits off of them
So owners should just take all the money and pay players less?😅
Don’t think Soto gives one iota what your biased opinion is. Let him sign and be happy wherever he goes.
money is as objective as it gets, friend.
I agree. Soto can't fill all of the holes the Yankees have. Spend that money on multiple players.
Yeah just let Dan said last year and he was wrong! ua-cam.com/video/sorcQdejMZA/v-deo.htmlsi=fjNGe_QQ0gW7ZsFl
I'm thinking the same as Dan here. OPS is overrated. He hit 41 homeruns and only hit .286...282 with runners in scoring position. So he gets on, hits for power but doesn't drive in many runs. You could get two Ace pitchers and position player who fits the bill just fine.
That's the worst take ever
@kyle2441 talk about hyperbole...sheesh! Agree to disagree. I see your Yankees icon. Your team can keep him. As a Dodger fan, I have zero interest in my team signing him. If Soto really wants $701M, then, the team paying that is foolish. Ohtani got $700M because he is an ace pitcher and hitter.
@@coreyweber2340 go look at league average on-base than do Sotos... go look at look average ops and ops+ than look at his.... go look at how many players that has had 25 homeruns and 125 walks in a single season.. Youl see 4 player's.. Bonds, Ruth, Ted Williams and Soto... I dunno you might have heard of those players they were pretty good dont ya think ?
Some ppl just don't know... @@kyle2441
With the game on the line, there is no one I wouldn't want to face more. Power without the K's.
If dodgers get Juan Soto, you will be talking, which means only the dodgers can capitalize on that contract
people were freaking out when Clemens got 5 million 😄
With the price he's asking I expect a 50/50 membership at the very least.
Can you imagine an Aaron, a Mays, a Clemente playing today; how much they will be worth.
Agree 100%, 2 A1 starting pitchers minimum!
What are you getting paid Dan?
I hate to admit..I been waiting for him to sign with the Yankees already..but this makes so much sense..600 million for a one trick pony when you can spread that 50 plus around 3 players plus add more with the remaining prior $300 budget a year as a team..I want walker and a trade for 3rd baseman…burnes
I’m a Blue Jays fan and we’re in the race apparently. Think this is exactly our position, do you prefer Soto or Vladdy and Bo?
Bo had one bad season but both are under 26 yo in their prime.
Soto and it's not that close, IMO.
Depends on the contract. Vladdy at his best is a 6-7 WAR player. Bo is a 5-6 WAR player. So if you can sign both of them for around the same price as Soto I'd much rather do that.
That’s why you do not own a MLB team
Dan you are doggone right.
With his performance in the 2019 WS and his entertainment and he is lock in at the plate, When hitting but his performance in the 2024 WS is not worth 680mill. The Reason Showtime get 700mill because he brings a fan base, Soto brings a fan base as well just not as Big as Showtime, I like Juan Soto and I’m A White Sox fan
i dunno. the amount of money i’ve spent as a dodgers fan hasn’t changed at all since they signed ohtani. i only go to a few games a year so maybe im not the “you” in that statement. maybe season ticket holders are spending more?
Thank you for your patronage. Your money is now being invested to buy players and stadium renovation. 🎉
@ and a championship exactly what fans want.
@@markbailey17 Baseball is one of the most parity sports I have seen come up in my life. It is not like NBA, NHL or NFL. I just like Dodgers are spending money to entertain their fans and giving a shot to championship 🙏
Moneyball left the Oakland Athletics homeless….
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Nah a Penny pinching owner and him just being a genuine POS, and a shitty town thats destroyed any semblance of pity due to their actions. Both can be true. Soto is not worth 600m. He should be in the 350m contract range. Ohtani is the only player in the MLB worth 600-700m because he EASILY brings in 70m per year in advertising and sales alone.
@ how come Ohtani didn’t bring in that amount you said for the Angels? A baseball player is worth what teams will pay.
@@w00deey12 HE did bring it in. Ohtani was alone worth $178m in sales, tickets, advertising and such in 2022 for the angels. When he first came to the angels he was bringing in around 50m in those, Again WELL worth the contract. When he started having massive success it skyrocketed.
@@ShimejiiGaming where are you getting these numbers from? I’d like to take a look at them
I don’t think juan soto is gonna win championships to any team just make it a little better that it
Ridiculous. I remember Dave Winfield signing with the Yankees . The outrage over the money. I wouldn't pay any grown man to play a little boys sport. I'd pay a good teacher to educate my kids .This country is ridiculous on who gets paid. Teachers get shit, but run fast and catch a ball like a child we will give you millions . Stupid
You would go bankrupt instantly 😂
If it's a little boys sport then that means it's something easily done, so why aren't you out there doing it? And Secondly, if it is simply about education, then why are they making more than you while playing a kids game?
Dan, I’ve said this so many times but yall really need to just stop with baseball coverage at this point. Until yall bring someone in house with some baseball knowledge or educate yourselves, you’re just bringing completely inadequate analysis.
Marvin's analogy hit it on the head, for the means of this segment.
What would you pay Juan Soto?
The guy turned down $440m and has only improved since.
Anybid above 55 AAV or 550 mio for Soto is ridiculous. He can't run, can't defense, can't bring massive revenues off field. He's only value is good hitting and 26. 5 or 6 years from now, Soto already DHing. Even so,, he'll be overpaid regardless.
440M- 500M
obviously i have no idea, just like the rest of you… but i don’t think the dodgers are REALLY in it.
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It seems like nobody realizes how deep the owners pockets are.
He is not even worth half of that. He is a one-dimensional player. He biggest assets are he gets on base and he hits for power. I saw ever single one of his plate appearances when he was a Padre. There were countless times he was over selective at the plate and drew a walk when he needed to expand the zone to put the ball in play and drive in a run. Fans are not drawn to buy tickets to see walks. Even if he was somekind of great base stealer it still would justify that amount of money.
He is an average defensive player with average arm. Sure he has a great on-base percentage and slugging numbers. All we heard prior to his acquisition to the Padres was he was the next Ted Williams. Really? Thats an insult to Ted Williams. He wasn't even the next Fernando Tatis Jr. nor even a Tony Gywnn.
No one stopped what they were doing to see his at bat like those other two. Its not to say I wouldn't want him on my team but not for that outrageous amount of money. Ohtani on the other hand is not only a tremendous hitter but also a number one starting pitcher. He is a five-tool player who allows a team to tap the market of an entire country like Japan. That alone justifies his contract.
Im sorry Soto is far from being worth spending even 400 million. The Padres recieved 5 players in return for him in a trade 2 who were major contributers and another was traded to land a front line starter like Dylan Cease. The remaining two showed signs of being pretty good MLB pitchers. At the time of the trade everyone was disappointed but in retrospect it turned out to be better to have those Five than one Juan Soto.
100%!
Nobody knows what Soto will do. All of these reports on media are nothing but a waste of time. You, at least, take a different look on this and suggest they get multiple players
I remember Reggie Jackson signing a 5 year $2.9M contract in the 1976 offseason less than $600k a year.
Koufax and Drysdale held out for $100,000 and less.
I watch Judge but not Soto.soto had MVP?Record contract players has MVP before big contract.Soto can bring big money to team like Ohtani?I don’t think so.To me No is I feel same.
Think Moneyball like Dan, pay 3 players that equal or exceeds Soto production...
Your discourse is 'sloppy' Dan. 600 for a Japanese, ok. 600 for a Hispanic................................................😎
Dan’s being obtuse on this one because he’s massively undervaluing on-base percentage and Soto’s age. His lifetime on-base percentage is .421, that’s Mickey Mantle & and Shoeless Joe Jackson territory. He’s averaging per 162 games: 35hr, 100+ rbi, 100+ runs, 130 bb. A player’s prime is about age 26-32. He’s entering his age 26 season. Players with that type of plate discipline and power are rare. These type of players become free agents in their mid 20’s maybe once a generation.
At 26 he’s a terrible base runner with no speed… limited RF ( have you ever really watched him in the field?) and was a so-so LF in DC( I live here and watched him from the LF bleachers)…
@ Well that’s true but you’re not paying him because he’s a good base runner or a good fielder. You’re paying him because he has insane plate discipline, has 30+ HR power, and hits .285. And the other big factor is he’s 26 years old and just entering his baseball prime. Go back and check since 1946 the players with a .410+ on-base percentage and 200+ HR, it’s a short list: T. Williams, B. Bonds, SOTO, M. Mantle, F. Thomas, E. Martinez, S. Musial, Helton, M. Ramirez, & M. Trout. Helton’s numbers are skewed because of Coors Field. Mantle’s legs were pretty much shot by the time he was 28-29 years old. The only 2 guys on that list that were consistently good fielders and base runners on that list were Bonds & Trout.
the yankees got smoked even with soto, so he isnt pushing any team over the hill by himself. 3 extra elite players might do that.
I don't like how he's constantly asking the umpires about pitches. It's gotta drive them crazy.
I dont like how Ohtani stands in the box like a statue with no expression or emotion! Ive seen him get angry at the Umps before also for calling a strike a strike and shaking his head violently. I dont like that he has no fun playing baseball and looks so serious all the time. He makes all this money and looks so grumpy
The one that started it all were the dodgers giving Kevin brown a $100 contract
Hey Dan the Mets are still getting 3 players 🤷🏽♂️
Soto sucks in right but he was so clutch in the playoffs. I want him to be a yankee but its probably not worth this much money lol.
Yankees got manhandled even with soto, lol.
No thanks I'll stick with the teams like the royals, orioles,guardians and pirates
Soto is perhaps the best hitter in the game right now, has been proven to not choke in the postseason unlike judge and he’s only 26 years old, ya just mad cause he ain’t coming back
Hell yeah dude aint worth that ..judge betts Harper etc.all them dudes aré better AND making 300+
Your comment is totally false! I wouldnt say any of them are better
God I hope he signs with the Yankees again - they won't win anything for years and years
Watch him sign with the dodgers. If he signs with the yankees. Im done following the Yankees.
Don’t pay for average players. Soto is elite. Those 3 other guys would just be three dudes who are average players.
Soto is a below average defense player. You won’t get you money back from Soto contract
Just because his defense isnt elite doesn't mean he's not building an amazing fan base!! Look at Harper defense not that great but has many fans! Soto will definitely have more and probably already does!
@@edfa3706and he’s below average with no speed at 26, the prime of his life!!! Someone is about to give out a horrific contract
@@mattschultz5155 Harper is a 2 time MVP and fan favorite. He's box office. Soto is great, but his greatness is his plate discipline. That's about as boring as it gets unless you're a hardcore fan.
@brandondillman5841 Harper and Soto were neck n neck for Harpers 2nd MVP by the way. Soto is right there and a fan favorite as well!
Watch Soto hit. Every aspect. Really.
Who even watches baseball?
Oh can it already dan patrick… you’re irrelevant
Soto > than this 3 you’d want
Bobby Witt Jr, Corbin Burns,
Bryce Harper is no good on the field! Who tunes in to see him? You want to seriously compare Soto to Harper? Soto is way better!
Harper is a 2x MVP and plays hard every single night. He's much more fun to watch than Soto.
Cmon Dan, its baseball literally globally aside of South Korea and Japan who really cares for baseball not included Latino countries but even they would rather cheer for their own people. Stop pushing that countries like Germany, Indonesia, Nigeria care for baseball.
Why do you all hate Soto so much, seriously re evaluate your life
It’s not hate. I’m a Yankees fan. And I don’t want to pay 600 million for him
Your crazy.. hes modern day ted williams @terrencenorton3107
Re-evaluate your player.
I don't hate him. But I really don't like him. Team chemistry is important.
Hes not worth 600m. This is how you limit your team and make a catastrophic mistake. HE can play AMAZING for the next 8 years, but then they cant really sign anyone else. You are limited to a few max players (unless they differ a TON of the money) and then you have to fill in. Yankees already have Judge and Stanton AND Gerrit Coles contracts. They quite literally cannot sign more people without doing some financial gymnastics like the dodgers.
The Dodgers owners are in win now mode, probably trying to win 3-5 championships then sell the team at the highest value to get a return on the investment.