Motortrend REACTS to Tesla CYBERBEAST | Cybertruck vs Rivian vs Hummer EV
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- Motortrend recently drove a Tri-Motor Cybertruck, a Hummer EV truck and a Rivian R1T and published a side-by-side comparison of the trucks including a very controversial ranking their favorite and least favorites among the three trucks. In this video I share Motortrend's reaction to these trucks, a side by side spec comparison as well as my reaction to how Motortrend ranked them.
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Motor Trend lost me when they SUBTRACTED points for the "polarizing" design. The Hummer ahead of the Cybertruck?!!? Please!!!
MotorTrend, brought to you by legacy auto. Currently, MT has Three Chevrolet 1500 ads, Two Nitto tire ads, and One Continental tire ad.
Motortrend is Tesla bear. They came on X space and admitted that they short TSLA
What settings did they use?
Track mode? Chill mode?
There are plenty of options that would significantly affect what they complained about.
We at motor trend Love reviewing and driving these vehicles ! I want to take a moment to thank these manufacturers for making large donations to our magazine !
Don’t care about these ranking stuff, the sales speaks for itself
ok. In that case Rivian still wins. It's been out for 2 years. Isn't the latest/greatest Cybertruck supposed to leapfrog the incumbent? Why didn't they?
@@paulbram2they didn’t even make/sell 14,000 vehicles this first quarter. You apparently haven’t read the news, Cybertruck is already outselling them. Try looking something up before making a fool of yourself.
So much for your two year lead, kind of squandered it
@@mikebalentine I was talking total sales lol.
@@paulbram2 yes because that makes sense, let’s compare everything then to the total sales of the f150. By your logic everything is a failure because the f150 has been selling for decades there is no reason to look at anything else.
@@mikebalentine chill dude. Tesla just launched, of course they are going to sell a ton to all those reservation holders. I'm just responding to your point that sales speaks for itself. They have a lot to prove still, let's see if they can catch Rivian.
1:57 I think the parking lot maneuvering is awesome. I’ve had no clipping problems.
The comparison is incomplete at best. The R1T and the HEV were designed for outdoor adventure, but the CT was designed for durability and performance. Thus the weight of each metric varies depending on the target use. So they count the SS panels as a disadvantage!! I would also add charging experience (speed, availability, and straightforwardness) and software quality (snappyness, robustness, and upgradeability).
I agree!
which performance metric does Cybertruck beat the Rivian? a half second 0-60 isn't a real world performance impact. When you actually drive the two, you will realize the Rivian's active suspension system is FAR more nimble and capable than the super stiff Cybertruck that lacks any real articulation.
MT rates according to the size of the ad you pay for. I have seem dozens of reviews for R1T vs CyberTruck and everyone says hands down that the CyberTruck has the best handling.
Reviewer: that’s pure garbage
MT management: They paid us a lot money to review this car.
Reviewer: it’s best in its class
This doesn’t surprise me from motor trend at all. They’ve only ever once given their Motortrend car of the year or SUV of the year or whatever to Tesla once and that was for the model S in 2012.
Comparing these three is like comparing an apple, an orange and a pear. Any choice depends on use case and personal preferences.
Correction: apple, orange, and durian.
The handling in parking lots has been improved greatly with the latest update by enabling more rear steering. It handles better than a model 3 now.
They don't really complete and have their own merits. As far as their complaints, i didn't hear them from ACID performance car drivers like Jason Camisa, Matt Watson, or Carlos Lagos. I started reading MT back in the late 80s and even collected them. They have definitely become sponsored biased hack media. Pretty sure that's why Carlos left. There is no way the CT should've been in 3rd place and outside of waiting on the software updates this is the first I'd heard of it FEELING unfinished as even sitting in it it feels like nothing else comparatively. It's its own segment, so how could that FEEL incomplete??
At this time, I would have to say the Rivian is in first. One, it does 'currently cost less and 2) CT software is not complete for towing, off road, turning, FSD. In a year, when the software is refined and active, I think the story will be switched. And when the CT eventually sells for what it should, then there will be no doubt. The one thing MT got correct is that the CT is not yet finished, Which, given how good it is now, does not bode well for it's competitors.
right, and let's not forget that Rivian's software is also not yet finished. Every month there are new updates.... for both. Cybertruck is behind, and there's no guarantee they will ever catch up.
Since I have never test-driven any of these and only seen them from the outside, any opinion I could offer would have to be provisional. That said, it seems to me that the Hummer is what the Cybertruck is accused of being-a novelty gimmick to draw attention. The Rivian R1T is the most straightforward, taking advantage of the electric platform while maintaining practicality. The Cybertruck intended to be that, but, being a Tesla, is trying to do that while also being a test bed for newly emerging technologies, wedging it between daily driver and concept car. Naturally, I am drawn to the Cybertruck first, but I am biased, being a Tesla investor and someone who is still alive because of the Model S engineering. (Long story.) I would give the R1T provisional second, as it is just a little too familiar, but that’s good, because most people want to stick with what they know; going electric is already pushing people in spite of the clear superiority of the technology long term. The Hummer is a nice try, but it’s GM’s way of putting on a show while still selling mostly gas-powered boxes.
You're right, Jon, Cybertruck is #1
That curb weight of the Hummer isn't good for off road. The other two would of course be better if lighter. Not many people really use trucks for proper off road though anyhow - and in proper off road you have winches front and rear because you expect to get stuck no matter what you're driving.
Using the price of the launch edition CT is a bit unfair
Never was a big fan of MT anyway 😂 should have also compared sports cars payload and towing capacity
Did they try shooting at the trucks?
RE TURNING BEHAVIOUR
Was there something wrong with the Cybertruck they tested?
Normally turning circle and turning behaviour is a CT strength over competition.
What about scale-ability, upgrade-ability, sales and profitability all more important than the other fairly similar specs. Which will survive?
Nothing about power supply for tools etc. ? Seems they may have missed some criteria.
Wait, 2024 and someone still reads motor trend, not trendy at all.
extra Frunk + Gear Tunnel storage > more space in the bed IMO. Not sure why you indicated the Cybertruck is the "clear winner" given total cargo space is basically the same.
Keep in mind all CURRENT specs as far as steering, breaking and accelerating WILL be adjusted (to the better) as time goes on as Tesla gets more and more familiar with real world capabilities with the CyberTruck. The GM and Rivian have been around long enough that they are mostly set to their best settings.
How about the robust nature of the CT?
I'd say they haven't evaluated these trucks as trucks but rather as cars. Hummer should be last, no question. CT and RT? Not sure but I think the CT will outsell the Rivian.
It was clear that the Motor Trend reviewers could not get over their "it's not like regular trucks" bias. Remember that they reviewed the 1st release and improvements are soon to be implemented. Also, bac3phi69's comment says it all. If MT were real journalists, they would have had disclaimers about this.
Don't think Cybertruck can be judged yet because there is so much new and never before seen in any vehicle let alone pure play BEV. The hard metal sides to the Cybertruck makes Tesla the clear winning in building a truck that those who actually use trucks for work will want. Absolutely agree how Tesla will improve upon Cybertruck going forward including availability will matter greatly but the basics for a vastly superior Truck to any other on the market....including sales which is where this matters...is there so yes, Tesla the clear winner. Looking forward to the GM Silverado EV formal launch tho.
Owners of the cyber truck will still be laughing in 20 years when every painted body truck is at the recyclers frames rusted beyond safe parameters.
This is true!
The SS body is far superior to aluminum and regular steel. The gorilla glass is the best of all and the cybertruck is the most capable of the trucks. As for function over form the Tesla is the best of those tested. Missing from this lineup is the Silverado EV 3 or 4WT and the F150 lightening. The worst is the Hummer EV, though as a very tall and large man I do like its interior size. I'm still awaiting the Ramcharger. I also need a six seater truck which I currently have in my F150 XLT, this gives the F series a n advantage over the others.
Motor Trend is definitely being paid! The Rivian is like a car! The CT is also riding on off road tires and the Rivian is on street tires. The Rivian is a small truck. The CT is not a track vehicle so this was a dumb comparison anyway! Compare them doing truck things!
Unfortunately, most of the media articles (former car magazines) are badly biased by advertisers. So they hunt around for (weak) reasons to justify supporting the companies who give them the most money. Attacking the styling is a poor judgement for overall ranking. The Cybertruck's styling is polarizing, but it is obvious if you are going to like or hate it. It reminds me of their review of the Tesla Model S Plaid, where they spent the most time complaining about the (optional) steering yolk. And calling the Plaid's unworldly performance a One Trick Pony. Sometimes they try to hide their bias, and sometimes they don't. Subsequently, my opinion of their opinions has diminished in recent years.
Everything about MT seems to be a one trick pony...
I don't see how the ct is flashy. It's very plain looking
It’s also hard for many reviews to separate their dislike of Elon from the vehicle. He’s polarizing and the truck is polarizing so they’re reviewed together…
Your ranking is based on what the cybertruck will be, not what it currently is. The standard in automotive journalism is to make your rating on what is presented in front of you, not what the company promises in the future.
I'd give the Rivian a #1, CT #2, and Hummer #10 (Fine, #3)
The Rivian is just a more complete, polished product at this point. The CT has some teething issues and it's "radical" nature shouldn't really be point scoring on a general ranking (that's for individuals to bias their preferences). IF a $60k version comes out, with the teething issues resolved, it's possibly a different situation.
Fair. The Hummer definitely deserves the 3rd place spot!
I'm a big CT fan, but even I agree. Of these three the R1T is clearly the most dialed in, well rounded, and just solid all around.
It really doesn’t matter what MT or anyone else thinks about the Cybertruck. Really, anyone who doesn’t like it ( or likes Teslas) will opt for the few options available , Rivian , Hummer (maybe?) , Silverado E or Lightning. The rest is still 2 million reservations waiting, Cybertruck (like all Teslas) certainly are not for everyone, but definitely for 2 + million people.
As with most so-called reviewers , they all hold Tesla to a higher standard than other companies.
It is not a secret that Motortrend is anti-Tesla. Expecting an unbiased review of comparison would be foolish.
The hummer EV getting an extra 80 miles of real work range makes it a win. I am a Tesla fan and a Tesla owner, but that massive boost in range makes the Hummer a clear choice over the cybertruck. Elon claimed 500 miles of range. Where is it? Even with a battery taking up half of your pickup bed, it still doesn’t have 500 miles of range.
Cleanerwatt: I give the CT #1 position based on the features that it doesn't have... Doesn't that validate MT saying that the CT is incomplete?
The $120 K Cybertruck is charging for features which are future promises. At least $20K of what you are paying for are missing features. I would agree with Motor Trend that they have to evaluate the truck they have, not promises for capabilities to be delivered in the future.
this argument doesn't make sense to me. Both CT and Rivian are releasing constant updates. Why are we giving CT this benefit and not recognizing that Rivian is also improving. The most recent Rivian update gave it access to Tesla's supercharger network. Kind of a big deal and more is coming each month.
Cybertruck is years ahead of any of other truck and the difference is just going to increase as Tesla keep constantly improving it.
If you've driven all three trucks, I'm all ears. But for those that haven't driven all of the trucks, I would have to believe MT would be a more reliable source.
Seems a little....skewed. like someone paid them to make up BS statements to justify their rating.
tesla supercharger makes it number one hands down. oh and software.
If the actual sales volume of the truck does not match up with the Motortrend ranking then you should know it's biased or bullsheeeit.
Cybertruck #1
Rivian R1T #2
GM Hummer #3
MotorTrend has always been the joke of car journalism, Car and Driver is the respectable publication.
Cybetruck anytime anyday! The Ultimate Ai EV. NO COMP!
MT has always been bought and sold
Rivian sells each R1 at 40k loss, it is not cheaper...
MT lost any respect I once had for them with this review. Smh
We all know that the Cybertruck is the best truck out there but it seems that Motortrend is so bias in their reporting. They even said that the Rivian is the sportscar version of the three?? Are they serious? The Cybertruck is the fastest of them all and also has the best handling because of the steer by wire system and four wheel steering. There's many more advantages that the Cybertruck has. It's either the Motortrend is bias, or plain dumb, or BOTH.
Car and Driver also rates the Cybertruck below Rivian, and Ford, but above Silverado and Hummer. I would say that what these performance automotive journalists are looking for is not what the CT is delivering.
Performance in a straight line? Sure, let's give CT that win. Put them both on a track and the difference will be obvious. Put them both offroad and it will again be obvious.
@@paulbram2 With Cybertruck's drive by wire and 4 wheel steering technology? Cybertruck will win all of that categories.
@@johnarnold6847 Car and Driver favors those who advertise using their magazine and channel. That's quite obvious isn't it?
You cannot base your ranking on "promised" Tesla future features. At such time these capabilities get added, the rankings could change. Sorry but with Tesla you never know when, or even if, they'll get added.
the hummer is a dump truck because ultium is the best tech
I've heard a LOT of people complaining about the poor brakes. Also, towing with that steer by wire system is VERY dangerous based on those who've tried it.
Jason of Engineering Explained said it towed the Porsche so well at speed he did not know it was there.
@@waynerussell6401 it tows fine, but for those who tow heavy loads, it very important to have "slow" steering for safety. CT doesn't adapt steering speed in tow mode and they really should.
Sandy Monroe disagrees. Just more lies.
Plus Rivian lost 43k per truck in 2023. I hope they make it.
Out of sync audio.
Motor trend has become a shill for advertisers. Once the CTs price comes down, the CT will triple its current sales.
Lol
When i pay for features in a 100 000 car i expect them to work, you acknowledge the cybertruck does not work yet give it first place, lol, No the cybertruck comes third a distant third, damn it comes behind any other electric vehicle even the cheap byd.
Hummer is definitely number 3 no doubt about it
My conclusion after watching many many cybertruck reviews. It's really much of a muchness between the real ev trucks. Ford. Rivian. Tesla. As a driver it's really down to personal choice. But the tesla has some novel. New. Way of the future teck in it namely and mainly 48v architecture and steer by wire. Neither of which really matter to the user but will in time bring down cost. Thecteardowns by Munro and the other guys. Cybertrucknis clearly rushed to market and very much a mk1 with manufacturing updates required
10:10 so, the styling makes it (to them) seem like a one trick pony, but it really isn't according to them, yet they're going to score it like it is because styling. lol...what a uselessly biased comparison this was.
Hummer ahead of cybertruck? 🤡😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Styling is a stupid category. If you don't like the looks you won't buy it.
You have to grade them on the way they stand now, not "it will improve".
As a 30-year subscriber to MT until a year ago, I’m not surprised to see such a biased review. Bought and paid for by legacy ICE manufacturers. 👎
MT has become irrelevant.
It obvious to me that a lot of you guys are in the Tesla cult. It’s the ugliest truck I. The world, its dimensions are strange. You say the Hummer is too big but the Tesla is bigger in most of the ways that count. As for being a truck, neither the Hummer or the Tesla are very good at that. The are both lifestyle vehicles although I don’t know what lifestyle a cybertruck is good for. The only thing it has is speed. It is a one trick pony. The Hummer is meant to be a good off road truck. You didn’t mention that at all. I would have given them the same ranking.
It is clear other manufacturers are catching up to Tesla.
Listen, it's really quite simple. The Cybertruck costs a fortune and for that extra fortune you're really not getting anything of value. Worse yet, both on and off road performance can't compare with Rivian. Why should you pick Cybertruck? Steer by wire? A larger bed size that sacrifices Frunk/gear tunnel storage? Certainly you wouldn't choose Tesla for build quality. Give me an objective reason why? I do agree however that the Hummer should be 3rd. Keep in mind it's not just Tesla that has more features being released every month via software updates. Rivian is doing the same so you can't only credit the Cybertruck with future updates.
Interesting to listen to a Tesla fan boy compared to Motor Trend. I tend to agree with Motor Trend as the very happy owner of a Ford Lightning extended range.
Sounds about right......nothing "controversial" unless you're in the Elmo cult.