My 2 year old Arab mare followed me into the corral where I was moving pairs out into her pasture. She was following me around and I said, "if you want to help, go move those cows over there!" She did. I hadn't even started riding her yet. She would always work like a border collie. I could send her by pointing to the cows and she'd go move them.
I had an off-the-track thoroughbred who physically was a throw-back to that breed’s Arabian forebears. He looked just like this horse, in color, outline, dishy face, short back, and tail carriage. His maternal grandsire was Northern Dancer, who also had that build. I got him straight off the track back when he had no idea what his job should be or that he could do anything but run fast. He acted just like this horse when he was turned out, including the snorting, dashing about, distractibility, and temper tantrums. It took him a couple of years to wrap his mind around the fact that now he was a riding horse. We did a lot of groundwork and getting to know one another. Gradually, he calmed down and became quite sensible, even lazy at times. I had him for 12 years. He turned out to be the best kid-safe horse I ever had. He was totally trustworthy. My seven-year-old daughter learned to ride on him and took him to 4-H shows. She also did dressage, jumping, and trail riding with him. He neck-reined and was totally seat-trained. He was a fantastic lunge line horse, especially with little kids. If they became unbalanced, he would literally step under them so they wouldn’t come off. He showed a lot of cow potential and would’ve made a great polo pony due to his agility and ability to turn on a dime. When asked, he could really run, too. All you had to do was lean forward, and he would takeoff like out of the starting gate. All you had to do was sit up, and he would slow down and come right back to you. He literally saved my life once in an indoor arena, when another horse bolted and galloped straight at us. He spun around 180° and took us out of harm’s way, while the other horse crashed into the boards at the end of the arena at the spot where we had just been, all with a calm demeanor. Three strides later, I was riding him on the buckle. But whenever he was turned out, which was daily, and in a mixed herd, he would rocket around, spin, kick, buck, snort, and expend energy like crazy. My fellow boarders would come up and express concern for my safety after seeing him act like that in the pasture. He never did any of those things when I was on him. So how horses act when they are free and how they act under saddle are two different things. Sadly, when he was 18, he broke his pastern while turned out, and I had to put him down. But he was living his best life. I miss him still.
I had a Morgan mare that I rescued & owned her at least 10 years before I discovered she had cow experience. A friend & I were out riding on some indian res land where one of our neighbor farmers had his herd. My mare saw those cows & shifted into cow herding mode like I had put her into 4-wheel drive. I was so impressed! She loved it.
And here I am hoping they become best friends. Seeing the kicking horse and calm cow makes me think it’s a wonder we are riding horses instead of cows. 😆
Emails intimidate me, lol. There’s so powerful and so far and looking. Their movements are setting. And they probably smell bad to a Horse. It’s a great idea to expose him to them.
I deeply appreciate that you gave Saber ample time to react to his surroundings and figure out what was appropriate and what not. You are so right to introduce him to things he will likely encounter on the trail. I would add leaf blowers, inflatable yard figures and emus!
Sabre is just gorgeous to watch. He has a ton of personality. I'm glad he has you to teach him how to be a good horse around people, cows, and other animals.
Saber is very handsome, we have a white andalusian at our boarding stable that was gelded later in his life, al the mares are in love with that beautiful horse, they dont even notice the other geldings even in heat.
Certainly some stud-like behaviour going on here. He's so fixated on making friends with your Bob and Bug he was having a little tantrum when you kept asking him to move away🤣 It's interesting how the cow can read his intentions and totally ignored all his air kicks, and dramatics. I hope you get time to show some more of Sabre, and I'm sure once he learns to be more socialised with other horses he'll be more relaxed and happy with being trained.
I think the cow was calm because Sabre wasn’t being assertive. He was dancing around making a lot of “noise” but wasn’t working to actually push the cow. Still working on confidence.
What a sweet inquisitive gorgeous horsey! You are doing such a wonderful job with Saber! Big hugs from us Arabian horse lovers southeast Georgia! Following Saber Fan Club! 🐎 💕
He is doing a good job with the cows have a nice day 🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎 i like what you are doing. Good job tim have a happy new year 🎉 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Arabians love to play “scare the human” when free lunging. Mine is hilarious about it. I’ve never actually been scared, I trust her more than any other horse I’ve known in the last 50 years. Arabs just need to be understood. When you get that they all have certain quirks and inherent traits, and what those traits are, you realize it’s not something to fear, it’s something to appreciate.
I have a 20 month old Pitzer bred filly. I'm working towards ranch riding. We have cow sorting so I've just been walking her through the cows. She figured out that pinning her Eads makes them move.
Arabs generally are very social with horses and oeople if they were never abused or badly injured. I have a 16 yr old gelding for last 9 yrs. Very kind and friendly. My mare however injured at a ranch twice in her 1st year. It took 10 yrs before i was certain she trusted people.
Sabre was only interested in the other horses that he's met - or at least heard, smelled and saw from a distance. He was making that upper lip curl that I associate with stud horses (but maybe others do it too). It will be great when he can spend time with some of them. It's definitely prudent to introduce him slowly. The little cow was nice and respectful, so I was glad he got to eat the delicious hay.:)
It's called the flehmen response and all horses do it. Other animals do it too, snakes, tigers, goats are some. On a very simple level it's like smelling and tasting at the same time and gives information to the animal usually about other animals. You can get horses to perform the response by giving them a strong mint sometimes.
My Appy stallion was perfectly safe to work with and ride until I bred him to a couple of mares. After that, he made a grab at me one day and lunged into a fist in his nose. He got chained up after that to maintain control until he was gelded. He made a great gelding.
Saber wants to jump the fence to be with the mare and possibly Bob. He is frustrated and angry. I think he is more interested in the horses than the cow.
Seems to me hes been starved for attention and alienated from close contact with other horses outside of breeding. I see a little kid that just wants somebody to play with, bless his heart. Yes theres a lot wrong with Sabre and hes got a lot to work on and work through but I think hes going to be an awesome horse in the end. The Arabian breeder i worked for as a kid/teenager told me that Arabs are really keen to learn voice commands so feel free to incorporate some verbal cues with leg and rein cues or hand signals.
That is the unfortunate life of stallions. Several people had said it was a shame to cut him but now that he is, he will be able to get just what you are suggesting. Arabs are very people/social horses. He will get that now. I keep hearing Tim say “good stallions make great geldings”. Sabre is only a few weeks out from being gelded, when those hormones settle he will as well. He will soon be out with friends.
This is so cool , over on SBH Stables hes working with Aequitas unhandled maybe 7 yrs old arabian stallion and he could be Sabers twin brother. Sepersted at birth.... hahaha
As per comment on other video, he is a son of SF Aftershoc and dam is by Bask Flame. Tim has a playlist for Sabre. You can also learn more about him by watching those:)
It's sad that he doesn't even know how to socialise with other male horses. When I lived in the Middle East all the stallions were yarded together with no problems. Still, Arabs are (usually) fast learners. His male hormones are still circulating in his system and will be doing so for quite a while yet, hence some of his (current) reactions.
@@PersonalTriumph2022 Yes, the only ones gelded are usually the ones that _don't_ learn to get along. I had a pony stallion in England for some years; he was better-mannered than most geldings, but it became impractical to keep him entire, so for his own succesful, contented future and long life in the UK I had him gelded as a seven or eight year old. He did lose some of his 'bright spark' along with the two other bits removed, but it was a lot more relaxing to know that other people wouldn't have hysterics around him when they realised he was a stallion. Silly, but there we are. Different equine cultures ...
I thought it was brilliant. Sometimes we have an agenda and the horse has another. Tim asks horses to focus on him and not whatever is going on around them. There were a few things happening here that were productive. 1. Learning focus despite distractions 2. Respect for Tims space 3. The freedom to learn the cow on his own and feed his curiosity. 4. Quell any fears he has about the cows. Training is never a straight line. Being able to pivot to a teaching moment that’s not on the agenda = smart trainer.
@@ltningstrike What a great evaluation of the video, and Tim's methods! Many viewers don't understand the reason for distractions. They think Tim should make the distractions go away before the lesson, but that's just not how it is in the real world...there are always distractions. Tim incorporates distractions into the everyday life of the horse to better prepare them for the real world.
Sabre is such a drama queen, haven't seen an Arab, even studs, former studs act like this, maybe it's his age, besides the breeding. I worked for an Arab breeder.
That is very characteristic of Arabian horses. Any horse can flag their tail like that but all Arabs do it. It's due to the fact they have fewer vertebrae than all other horse breeds which makes the top of their rump (croup) flat which makes the tail head sit up higher on top of the rump. So they tend to carry their tail up and out as compared to other breeds
@@leannemcrae8132 Thanks for replying! I recently learned it was a characteristic of Arabians, but had no idea why. I appreciate you explaining the why!
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My 2 year old Arab mare followed me into the corral where I was moving pairs out into her pasture. She was following me around and I said, "if you want to help, go move those cows over there!" She did. I hadn't even started riding her yet. She would always work like a border collie. I could send her by pointing to the cows and she'd go move them.
I had an off-the-track thoroughbred who physically was a throw-back to that breed’s Arabian forebears. He looked just like this horse, in color, outline, dishy face, short back, and tail carriage. His maternal grandsire was Northern Dancer, who also had that build.
I got him straight off the track back when he had no idea what his job should be or that he could do anything but run fast. He acted just like this horse when he was turned out, including the snorting, dashing about, distractibility, and temper tantrums.
It took him a couple of years to wrap his mind around the fact that now he was a riding horse. We did a lot of groundwork and getting to know one another. Gradually, he calmed down and became quite sensible, even lazy at times.
I had him for 12 years. He turned out to be the best kid-safe horse I ever had. He was totally trustworthy. My seven-year-old daughter learned to ride on him and took him to 4-H shows. She also did dressage, jumping, and trail riding with him. He neck-reined and was totally seat-trained.
He was a fantastic lunge line horse, especially with little kids. If they became unbalanced, he would literally step under them so they wouldn’t come off.
He showed a lot of cow potential and would’ve made a great polo pony due to his agility and ability to turn on a dime. When asked, he could really run, too. All you had to do was lean forward, and he would takeoff like out of the starting gate. All you had to do was sit up, and he would slow down and come right back to you.
He literally saved my life once in an indoor arena, when another horse bolted and galloped straight at us. He spun around 180° and took us out of harm’s way, while the other horse crashed into the boards at the end of the arena at the spot where we had just been, all with a calm demeanor. Three strides later, I was riding him on the buckle.
But whenever he was turned out, which was daily, and in a mixed herd, he would rocket around, spin, kick, buck, snort, and expend energy like crazy. My fellow boarders would come up and express concern for my safety after seeing him act like that in the pasture. He never did any of those things when I was on him.
So how horses act when they are free and how they act under saddle are two different things.
Sadly, when he was 18, he broke his pastern while turned out, and I had to put him down. But he was living his best life. I miss him still.
I had a Morgan mare that I rescued & owned her at least 10 years before I discovered she had cow experience. A friend & I were out riding on some indian res land where one of our neighbor farmers had his herd. My mare saw those cows & shifted into cow herding mode like I had put her into 4-wheel drive.
I was so impressed! She loved it.
And here I am hoping they become best friends.
Seeing the kicking horse and calm cow makes me think it’s a wonder we are riding horses instead of cows. 😆
😂
I’m still amazed by the strength of that horses tail. Wonderful
Video. We’ve done this a few times with horses that act afraid of cows. Seems to work.
What a sweet cow haha
Saber looks like a Cadillac ride with a boogie man gear! LOL😊 Arabs can be a cloud ride. Beautiful mover! ❤
I am betting Tim will get that boggie man gear worked out lol.
Boogeyman gear? What does that mean? Lol
Cows, camels, ostrich, emu, dogs, pigs, sheep😂. I had an Arab swap ends over a friendly emu so fast he left his shoes in the road!
Good suggestions! Somebody else also suggested blow-up yard decorations. I could see how scary they could be, especially since they move in the wind.
Emails intimidate me, lol. There’s so powerful and so far and looking. Their movements are setting. And they probably smell bad to a Horse. It’s a great idea to expose him to them.
I deeply appreciate that you gave Saber ample time to react to his surroundings and figure out what was appropriate and what not. You are so right to introduce him to things he will likely encounter on the trail. I would add leaf blowers, inflatable yard figures and emus!
Sabre is just gorgeous to watch. He has a ton of personality. I'm glad he has you to teach him how to be a good horse around people, cows, and other animals.
This is your smarts on display. This was a perfect setup for Sabre to get up close and personal on his own. Great idea to film this !
❤ Sabre. He seems to wanna play today 😊
Sabre is gorgeous! It’s his Bieber hair toss @2:26 for me❤
I love this horse!! His personality is great. Saber is going to be amazing.
Saber is very handsome, we have a white andalusian at our boarding stable that was gelded later in his life, al the mares are in love with that beautiful horse, they dont even notice the other geldings even in heat.
He is just SOO BEAUTIFUL!!
When I bought my Arabian (the breeders were around 80 y/o and dispersing their herd), they ran their geldings and young studs together.
Similar situation here except this one didn't have much turn out time.
That little cow is cute. ❤
Certainly some stud-like behaviour going on here. He's so fixated on making friends with your Bob and Bug he was having a little tantrum when you kept asking him to move away🤣
It's interesting how the cow can read his intentions and totally ignored all his air kicks, and dramatics.
I hope you get time to show some more of Sabre, and I'm sure once he learns to be more socialised with other horses he'll be more relaxed and happy with being trained.
I also find that interesting too! The cow was so calm.
I think the cow was calm because Sabre wasn’t being assertive. He was dancing around making a lot of “noise” but wasn’t working to actually push the cow. Still working on confidence.
Tim, you are a very smart logical thinker. Good Horse trainer!
What a sweet inquisitive gorgeous horsey! You are doing such a wonderful job with Saber! Big hugs from us Arabian horse lovers southeast Georgia! Following Saber Fan Club! 🐎 💕
Bug likes him alot!
Thank You, Tim. Your comments were very interesting. Learned a lot.
He is doing a good job with the cows have a nice day 🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎 i like what you are doing. Good job tim have a happy new year 🎉 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
They are SO quick !
Arabians love to play “scare the human” when free lunging. Mine is hilarious about it. I’ve never actually been scared, I trust her more than any other horse I’ve known in the last 50 years. Arabs just need to be understood. When you get that they all have certain quirks and inherent traits, and what those traits are, you realize it’s not something to fear, it’s something to appreciate.
Yes Arabs are different mentally and physically. A different approach is often needed but not to exterminate that magic fire.
I have a 20 month old Pitzer bred filly. I'm working towards ranch riding. We have cow sorting so I've just been walking her through the cows. She figured out that pinning her Eads makes them move.
Very beautiful horse.
Love Saber!! This was a very interesting video. Can't wait for more!
Arabs generally are very social with horses and oeople if they were never abused or badly injured. I have a 16 yr old gelding for last 9 yrs. Very kind and friendly. My mare however injured at a ranch twice in her 1st year. It took 10 yrs before i was certain she trusted people.
Sabre was only interested in the other horses that he's met - or at least heard, smelled and saw from a distance. He was making that upper lip curl that I associate with stud horses (but maybe others do it too). It will be great when he can spend time with some of them. It's definitely prudent to introduce him slowly. The little cow was nice and respectful, so I was glad he got to eat the delicious hay.:)
It's called the flehmen response and all horses do it. Other animals do it too, snakes, tigers, goats are some. On a very simple level it's like smelling and tasting at the same time and gives information to the animal usually about other animals. You can get horses to perform the response by giving them a strong mint sometimes.
My Appy stallion was perfectly safe to work with and ride until I bred him to a couple of mares. After that, he made a grab at me one day and lunged into a fist in his nose. He got chained up after that to maintain control until he was gelded. He made a great gelding.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU, YOUR WIFE AND ALL YOUR STAFF TIM. 🎉❤😊 🙏🏻
Saber wants to jump the fence to be with the mare and possibly Bob. He is frustrated and angry. I think he is more interested in the horses than the cow.
Gosh he's beautiful ❤
Very interesting..thanks❤
Seems to me hes been starved for attention and alienated from close contact with other horses outside of breeding. I see a little kid that just wants somebody to play with, bless his heart. Yes theres a lot wrong with Sabre and hes got a lot to work on and work through but I think hes going to be an awesome horse in the end. The Arabian breeder i worked for as a kid/teenager told me that Arabs are really keen to learn voice commands so feel free to incorporate some verbal cues with leg and rein cues or hand signals.
That is the unfortunate life of stallions. Several people had said it was a shame to cut him but now that he is, he will be able to get just what you are suggesting. Arabs are very people/social horses. He will get that now. I keep hearing Tim say “good stallions make great geldings”. Sabre is only a few weeks out from being gelded, when those hormones settle he will as well. He will soon be out with friends.
Looks chilly!
It was;)
The poor cow is frightened of horse! Make sure he doesn't HURT the poor cow! Is the cow a female & not a male, a bull!
This is so cool , over on SBH Stables hes working with Aequitas unhandled maybe 7 yrs old arabian stallion and he could be Sabers twin brother. Sepersted at birth.... hahaha
Yes the timing to have both Arabians in training is really interesting ! They both seem a handful but gorgeous horses !
Different style of training though.
What a gorgeous driving horse he would be! Would love to know his bloodlines.
Mentioned in other video posts.
As per comment on other video, he is a son of SF Aftershoc and dam is by Bask Flame. Tim has a playlist for Sabre. You can also learn more about him by watching those:)
Thank you so much. I knew he was well-bred.@@malindaryan2091
Thank you so much. I knew he was well-bred.@@malindaryan2091
It's sad that he doesn't even know how to socialise with other male horses. When I lived in the Middle East all the stallions were yarded together with no problems. Still, Arabs are (usually) fast learners. His male hormones are still circulating in his system and will be doing so for quite a while yet, hence some of his (current) reactions.
They hardly ever geld their stallions in the Middle East. Therefore they have got to learn to get along !
@@PersonalTriumph2022 Yes, the only ones gelded are usually the ones that _don't_ learn to get along. I had a pony stallion in England for some years; he was better-mannered than most geldings, but it became impractical to keep him entire, so for his own succesful, contented future and long life in the UK I had him gelded as a seven or eight year old. He did lose some of his 'bright spark' along with the two other bits removed, but it was a lot more relaxing to know that other people wouldn't have hysterics around him when they realised he was a stallion. Silly, but there we are. Different equine cultures ...
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Not a well planned exercise with the mares already right there distracting him from the cow exercise.
That's the whole point, it's all a distraction. Managing distractions is an important part of getting a horse safe.
I thought it was brilliant. Sometimes we have an agenda and the horse has another. Tim asks horses to focus on him and not whatever is going on around them. There were a few things happening here that were productive.
1. Learning focus despite distractions
2. Respect for Tims space
3. The freedom to learn the cow on his own and feed his curiosity.
4. Quell any fears he has about the cows.
Training is never a straight line. Being able to pivot to a teaching moment that’s not on the agenda = smart trainer.
@@ltningstrike What a great evaluation of the video, and Tim's methods! Many viewers don't understand the reason for distractions. They think Tim should make the distractions go away before the lesson, but that's just not how it is in the real world...there are always distractions. Tim incorporates distractions into the everyday life of the horse to better prepare them for the real world.
Sabre is such a drama queen, haven't seen an Arab, even studs, former studs act like this, maybe it's his age, besides the breeding. I worked for an Arab breeder.
So Arab! Watching it all
A true Arabian... his actions...
I'd like to know why that horse has its tail all jacked up the entire time, you didn't say a word about it?
That is very characteristic of Arabian horses. Any horse can flag their tail like that but all Arabs do it. It's due to the fact they have fewer vertebrae than all other horse breeds which makes the top of their rump (croup) flat which makes the tail head sit up higher on top of the rump. So they tend to carry their tail up and out as compared to other breeds
@@leannemcrae8132 Thanks for replying! I recently learned it was a characteristic of Arabians, but had no idea why. I appreciate you explaining the why!
This horse is just too "hot" and not a safe horse. He is just has tooooooo much stallion attitude.
That's why he was sent for training! helpwithmyhorse.com/the-essence-of-great-horsemanship/
He will always be hot, he is an Arabian..
I saw sabre flinging his head to get his forelocks out of his eyes. @2:35😊 he is a beauty. It was that or his impersonation of Fabio.