Why The Fairy Godmother Is Dreamworks' Best Villain⎮A Dreamworks Discussion

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  • Опубліковано 30 сер 2022
  • Man... I love Shrek. A classic animated film, and that is owed in no small part to the main villain Lord Farquaad. But then Shrek 2 came along... and blew all of that out of the water... and blew the Lord of Duloc out of the water too.... there was a new villain in town... one that would go on to become Dreamworks most iconic villain: The Fairy Godmother. Watch for more.
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  • @nathanspradlin8570
    @nathanspradlin8570 Рік тому +1488

    I feel like "subverting expectations" is the entire point of the FIRST two Shrek films and having the Fairy Godmother and Prince Charming as a fairytale con team is genius by the writers because it takes "Happily Ever After" saying and flips it on its head. It makes you question every canon fairytale prince meeting princess trope and gives it a kinda dark back story.

    • @MrCrow-tl5tv
      @MrCrow-tl5tv Рік тому +25

      Pretty much all the Shrek films are like that.

    • @LucianCorrvinus
      @LucianCorrvinus Рік тому +4

      @@MrCrow-tl5tv a yually I feel that the four across the je francize probably tell the story in an a c where even the weekend link is a good story on itself...in my opinion it's three but I bet are all enjoyable. What more can you ask for really. ..

    • @djdjbeje
      @djdjbeje Рік тому +12

      @@LucianCorrvinus i literally had a stroke reading this omg

    • @LucianCorrvinus
      @LucianCorrvinus Рік тому +1

      @@djdjbeje then maybe it was too much for your mind to contain and it is more your problem than mine....

    • @user-mx4is4fx3c
      @user-mx4is4fx3c Рік тому +4

      I'd include Shrek 4 here. I mean the movie introduced the pied piper as a hitman and Rumpelstiltskin as a con man tricking people into legally binding contracts that seem ideal but have devastating terms on the fine print

  • @NobodyC13
    @NobodyC13 Рік тому +817

    I sometimes think the Fairy Godmother is a biting satire on the predetory nature of the beauty and self-help industry, which is incredibly prescient for 2004. The song she sings after being summoned by Fiona is basically listing all of Fiona's "flaws" and promising to patch them up with material goods or solutions only the Fairy Godmother can provide. Her billboard in Far, Far Away brings to mind billboards advertising plastic surgery in Los Angeles. The factory that produces her potions are modeled after factories that specializes in cosmetics and pharmeceuticals, complete with lab coats, medieval-grade medical equipment, and animal testing.
    The Fairy Godmother's MO is she sells happiness in a bottle and creates a need for it by having people believe they can only be happy through shallow means, like buying her products.

    • @hassanalkhalaf1115
      @hassanalkhalaf1115 Рік тому +36

      Okay but why is this hot take so smart?

    • @manicpepsicola3431
      @manicpepsicola3431 Рік тому +43

      @@hassanalkhalaf1115 because its probably exactly what they intended lol early 2000s slef help bs was wild

    • @julianakarasawa315
      @julianakarasawa315 Рік тому +33

      Exactly - this also makes perfect sense with the headcanon that she is behind the whole curse thing with Fiona - beauty and self-help industries offering solutions for problems THEY fabricated to begin with

    • @hopefullyhelping6664
      @hopefullyhelping6664 Рік тому +31

      I think it’s also a commentary on how she is in a place of privilege and is preying on people with minority status. Her services are not just to make people feel superficially better about themselves, but to ostensibly lift a person from oppression or disadvantage. Shrek feels he is unworthy of being Fiona’s husband because of his race (yes, RACE), so he drinks the Happily Ever After potion which turns him human. In turn, strangers treat him leaps and bounds better. Their original horror and hatred they feel for him as an ogre is completely flipped when he becomes human. It’s not just that he’s conventionally attractive as a human, but that he no longer has a minority status. I know this is all a pretty heavy take on the Shrek universe, but I think there are some pretty overt aspects about racism and discrimination. I mean, there’s ETHNIC CLEANSING and forced displacement in the first movie, and SLAVERY in the fourth.

    • @jessicapinkman-hd4bw
      @jessicapinkman-hd4bw 7 місяців тому +1

      no it's a deconstruction of how most disney movie's and fairy tales tend to try to show who the good guy's and the bad guy's are supposed to be by making the moral characters conveniently attractive and the immoral characters ugly as shit by having this take place in a world where people jump to assumptions about people based on appearances alone and assume the worst or best about them which is also unfortunately how it goes in the real world

  • @alexisgrunden1556
    @alexisgrunden1556 Рік тому +706

    I think what made Fairy Godmother such a villain to me is how incredibly manipulative and callous she is. She openly laughed when Fiona's father tried to protest the love potion, breezily and casually stating that she forces people to fall in love all the time.

    • @hassanalkhalaf1115
      @hassanalkhalaf1115 Рік тому +16

      Makes you wonder on how many men she forced herself

    • @manicpepsicola3431
      @manicpepsicola3431 Рік тому +6

      @@hassanalkhalaf1115 it's almost like they didn't think about it

    • @XxdextriousxX
      @XxdextriousxX Рік тому +20

      Yea she repeatedly blackmails taking away the Kings position as she was apparently very responsible for making it happen. Makes you wonder if she turned him to a frog to begin with etc and how many other fairy tales she’s manipulated it’s kinda genius

    • @gamemaster2819
      @gamemaster2819 Рік тому +10

      I think the scene that shows a lot of her personality is when she convinces Shrek to let Fiona “be happy”. She was basically twisting Shrek’s feelings and self-conscious. It was a load of bull, but she said it in a way that was trying to make it sound romantic and the right thing to do

  • @OpticalSorcerer
    @OpticalSorcerer Рік тому +907

    I always appreciated that she and Charming had genuine love for each other. While I don't often need a villain origin story, I'd love for them to get one.

    • @sarahsims6164
      @sarahsims6164 Рік тому +62

      That would be something; maybe they'd show us what happened to her husband.

    • @OpticalSorcerer
      @OpticalSorcerer Рік тому +47

      @@sarahsims6164 Part of me thinks he'd be evil as well, but maybe he was kind and caring.

    • @OpticalSorcerer
      @OpticalSorcerer Рік тому +15

      @Productive Centaur In fiction famtasy settings, you can go with the "always been evil" trope, especially since a lot of people don't like the sympathetic villain trope of being made evil.

    • @99lodewijk
      @99lodewijk Рік тому +15

      @@OpticalSorcerer to be honest, her male counterpart is the Fairy Godfather. That story practically writes itself from that name alone.

    • @OpticalSorcerer
      @OpticalSorcerer Рік тому +6

      @@99lodewijk Could be possible, thoufh I imagine it'd be a rehash of her concept. Considering Charming is a prince, it makes sense for his father to have been a king.

  • @zehrazahoor7855
    @zehrazahoor7855 Рік тому +253

    Making fairy godmother just a power hungry narcissist would just make her one dimensional and a bit boring. Having the element of wanting what's best for her son gives her more depth and her motives feel more genuine and gives more vigor to her actions.

    • @Interestingenough4
      @Interestingenough4 Рік тому +7

      She's the perfect dark counterpart to King Harold. She loves her son and wants what's best for him, and what's better for him than to become a king, married to a beautiful princess? However, being power-hungry and a schemer, she isn't above using him for her own selfish purposes. Similarly, despite some terrible or misguided things that King Harold does (trying to kill Shrek with Puss 'N Boots, or putting Fiona in the tower to begin with), his motives are to do what's best for Fiona. But unlike the Fairy Godmother, he will not take advantage of his daughter. When push comes to shove, he refuses to give Fiona the Love Potion. And he realizes what Shrek would do for her, saving him from the Fairy Godmother's curse and atoning for his actions by accepting Shrek into the family.

  • @jinxglow6695
    @jinxglow6695 Рік тому +325

    I think what’s great about her also is that she is such a perfect foil to Shrek himself. Throughout the entire film, Shrek constantly doubts that he has any worth to be with someone like Fiona despite loving her so much. Because the Fairy Godmother can sense that everyone equally dislikes the fact the he’s an ogre, she manipulates him into believing that Fiona and her parents will never love him, and he almost completely falls for it. It’s only because Shrek finds his inner worth that he is able to stop her, which shows how a great villain like this exhibits a higher ground over the hero, whether it’s emotional or physical.

    • @ayselengin1798
      @ayselengin1798 Рік тому +4

      thats not what foil means but agreed.

    • @blaue_sophie1317
      @blaue_sophie1317 Рік тому +1

      The fairy godmother is such a great aluminium foil.👄

    • @crowfoot8059
      @crowfoot8059 Рік тому +1

      @@ayselengin1798 in this context foil means “a person or thing that contrasts with and so emphasizes and enhances the qualities of another”

  • @baddieMario77
    @baddieMario77 Рік тому +75

    When she sang holding out for a hero at the end, it was truly the most epic moment of my childhood. That and when spongebob sang the goofy goober song

    • @reallycutegal7738
      @reallycutegal7738 Рік тому

      Same here!!! It was a magical moment when I was little

  • @dravendfr
    @dravendfr Рік тому +103

    Okay, since I am now considering the topic from a deeper perspective, can we acknowledge how scary she is? Fairy Godmother looks at the list of missing potions and when she sees Shrek has taken the Happily Ever After potion, she immediately has the plan in her mind of how to turn it on him, no serious thought is put into the matter. When the plan fails, it isn’t because of all the valiant efforts made by the cast of characters trying to stop her, or even the main characters, it’s Harold standing up to her on behalf of his daughter, The Fairy Godmother is so used to getting her way in these situations that when Fiona knocks Charming out, she diverts her attention to Harold and assumes it was incompetence, not bravery that lead to that situation, I seriously think Harold genuinely surprised her, and did it twice, how many times had she gotten her way from her, “clients?” The first time she assumes its a blunder, Harold gives a swift reply, but the second time immediately after she sees Harold stand up to her directly and her expression speaks for itself, Harold is willing to forego his morals if it means he gets to maintain his façade, but he has no problem throwing all of that away for his daughter, that’s what she underestimated about the King and his old hatchet wound.

  • @SiNKarnage
    @SiNKarnage Рік тому +120

    This is why Shrek 2 is the best sequel out of the franchise. It actually connects the dots from the previous iteration thereby drivng the plot forward and closing what was already established in the book from the very start. Thats why the other sequels don't start off from the Book Shrek was reading. Forever after is more of reboot or other universe than a sequel.

    • @Interestingenough4
      @Interestingenough4 Рік тому +1

      Exactly. For me, the first two Shrek films feel like two parts of one longer movie, telling one overarching story that feels complete by the end of "Shrek 2." The last two sequels felt like cash grabs afterwards. It's why I like to stick to the first two movies and call it good.

    • @zoorockf1
      @zoorockf1 Рік тому

      @@Interestingenough4 I wanna Pour a laxative in your coffee so u have the worst nightmare of all

  • @mbanerjee5889
    @mbanerjee5889 Рік тому +8

    Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2.
    He's terrifying, funny, and a great foil to the protagonist.

  • @gigiisaweirdo8175
    @gigiisaweirdo8175 Рік тому +78

    And on top of being great she can sing an awesome number

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 Рік тому +214

    Fairy Godmother is a great villain. That said there are some villains that outshine her in some ways. But I also know that whether a villain’s villainy is supposed to be a joke or an attempt at serious drama should affect how we assess those villains. Seti and Rameses from The Prince of Egypt are in many ways the best villains but since they’re not from a comedy, it makes sense that their villainy is portrayed more dramatically than Fairy Godmother’s is. Also, Kung Fu Panda is a comedy but its villains are not played for laughs in the slightest so for them to compare them to Fairy Godmother would be apples to oranges.

    • @barnabusdoyle4930
      @barnabusdoyle4930 Рік тому +14

      I agree, Godmother, Rameses, Tai Lung and Shen are definitely Dreamworks best villains each in completely different ways. It’s like asking who played The Joker the best, and to be honest each actor who played him played such a different character and did that character amazingly.
      Personally I like Shen the best as he was the most dangerous. Godmother would be number 2 mainly because of her “I Need A Hero” perfection plus the manipulative nature of her character. Rameses wasn’t really that bad of a person, he was just doing what he thought was best which is usually a great motivator for doing horrible acts. Tia Lung was the most threatening in his solo capacity, all great villains

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Рік тому +5

      @@barnabusdoyle4930 Yes. And that’s the perfect analogy. Since Cesar Romero was playing The Joker for comedy so that it wouldn’t make sense to compare him to Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger who weren’t

    • @ericad8412
      @ericad8412 Рік тому +1

      True I see what you're saying

    • @wonderfulrose477
      @wonderfulrose477 Рік тому

      @@barnabusdoyle4930 I actually think Godmother is a lot more capable in her solo abilities similar to Tai Lung. She simply wants to have a clean public image to keep her foot on the city instead of possibly using her magic by force. We see that there is nothing stronger than her magic in the movies; even Rumple’s contractions couldn’t override her magic that made Fiona an ogre.

  • @bengilhooly3616
    @bengilhooly3616 Рік тому +612

    You know she's a true villain when she has a line that wouldn't be allowed today: "He endures blistering winds and scorching deserts! He climbs to the highest bloody room in the tallest bloody tower! And what does he find? *SOME GENDER-CONFUSED WOLF* "

    • @Going.Creative._mode
      @Going.Creative._mode Рік тому +25

      Oh yea I forgot about that-

    • @ChewyRocksandiscute
      @ChewyRocksandiscute Рік тому +131

      LMFAO! Seriously. If a film did that today, they’d be “cancelled” and dragged through the mud. Oh how I miss how times used to be before people got offended by every damn thing.

    • @tatemitchell1479
      @tatemitchell1479 Рік тому +10

      @@ChewyRocksandiscute This.

    • @SiNKarnage
      @SiNKarnage Рік тому +4

      "IT'S ALREADY MARRIED"

    • @ChewyRocksandiscute
      @ChewyRocksandiscute Рік тому +3

      @@tatemitchell1479 yasssss Mizz Barbie

  • @evillyn7895
    @evillyn7895 Рік тому +73

    I think Jennifer Saunders had a LOT to do with the Godmother's charisma. I see a lot of Eddie in the Godmother.

  • @Carolina57685
    @Carolina57685 Рік тому +90

    thank you for acknowledging the fact Fiona was being set up to be sexually assaulted! too many people (especially writers who pass it off as "haha no harm done" sort of thing) ignore the fact that love potions are just magical roofies!

    • @hassanalkhalaf1115
      @hassanalkhalaf1115 Рік тому +45

      That's why I adored when Shrek asked her if she really wants this before he kissed her. A man who knows consent

  • @Tamailana
    @Tamailana Рік тому +11

    I think she's so great because she's a realistic villain. She's a bad person you can easily meet in real life. A mother who wants the best for her son and herself, so she manipulates and lies... someone pretending to be nice to be liked and gain influence, while using people and feeding their insecurities... a ruthless business person mistreating her employees... a cunning politician... yeah, don't tell me there are not people like that outside of fairytales. I guess it's a great lesson for kids, too - don't trust someone just because they seem nice when you first meet.

  • @logicmeister1821
    @logicmeister1821 Рік тому +143

    Fairy Godmother is a great Villain, and her son was almost one as well, in the third film he did make a good points the heroes "Happily Ever After" often came at the expense of the Villains, or even just those who weren't said Heroes, too bad the concept was poorly executed

    • @gem9535
      @gem9535 Рік тому +8

      4th one slaps tho

  • @lynnboartsdye1943
    @lynnboartsdye1943 Рік тому +46

    If she hadn’t died in the second film she probably would’ve made the sequels a blast, like sure she probably wouldn’t be able to sway shrek twice as herself but I can see her giving those with a grudge against shrek a one up with her scummy deals, maybe her mob boss esc hand over the land has deeper consequences?
    And yeah I totally believe the idea that she cursed Fiona in the first place, it makes too much sense she’d set that stuff up for her own and her sons gain.

    • @alexbolt5
      @alexbolt5 Рік тому +5

      her voice actress insisted they do an extra voice recording of her insisting that she was still alive somewhere but they never used it. It’s a shame since we only ever see her in the shrek thriller but I see why no villians ever return from their respective movies, since each represent a central struggle for shrek in the films their in.

    • @SarahJareth
      @SarahJareth Рік тому +2

      Omigod if they somehow managed to resurrect the Fairy Godmother through some form of magical mishap or someone has a grudge against Shrek she would be utterly terrifying

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 Рік тому +7

    If I remember correctly one of the movies mentioned that all the other princesses were also cursed by a witch. And quite a few of them also interacted with the fairy godmother (pinocchi was also interactable but he's not a princess)
    So it's easy to say that she had a lot of options set up for her son, a lot of backup plans, all of which failed

  • @pixiebubbles2628
    @pixiebubbles2628 Рік тому +28

    Personally, I love the 2nd film more than the 1st film. Mainly because of the Fairy Godmother & the unspoken backstory of the whole plot of the first two films. It's so fantastic!

  • @marcuscarana9240
    @marcuscarana9240 Рік тому +11

    I love her as a villain. Also killer vocal chords.

  • @Interestingenough4
    @Interestingenough4 Рік тому +6

    The Fairy Godmother was arguably the main antagonist of the entire Shrek series. Her turning Harold into a man gave her an opening to blackmail him into hooking up Fiona with Prince Charming. Also, when Fiona was in the tower, the plan was that Charming would eventually save her. However, Harold and Lillian got so desperate that they almost signed a bad deal with Rumpelstiltskin, partly because Lillian didn't trust the Fairy Godmother and saw her for what she was. But Fiona being in the tower led to Farquaad trying to marry her to become king, sending Shrek and Donkey to bring Fiona to Duloc, in turn leading to Shrek marrying Fiona and thwarting Rumpelstiltskin's plans. Prince Charming's entire plot in "Shrek The Third" was to avenge his mother's death. And Rumpelstiltskin failing the first time led to him trying again, using Shrek's nostalgic feelings to rewrite the timeline so that Harold and Lillian would sign the first deal. None of those things would've happened without the Fairy Godmother's involvement.

  • @noobmasterruben5167
    @noobmasterruben5167 Рік тому +22

    Fairy Godmother, Hal Stewart and Lord Shen are easily my favorite Dreamworks villains

    • @zoorockf1
      @zoorockf1 Рік тому

      Funny that those three foes are on Schaffrillas’ thumbnail of his top 10 DW villains video

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 Рік тому +13

    As much as I love Fairy Godmother, I also really love Rumple from Forever After and how he’s cleverly set up as well as actually winning, but earned so genuinely, along with every outsmarted decision he makes, hope he’s covered

  • @friend_trilobot
    @friend_trilobot Рік тому +9

    A lot of people don't know wha the actually puss in boots fairy tale is about, but this story mirrors it in a few interesting ways, particularly pretending to be something your not and the villain being dethroned by a magical transformation. Puss in boots involves a peasant pretending to be a nobleman with the help of a talking cat (who is sometimes a female fairy in disguise). To seal the deal, the cat goes to the castle of an ogre and kills the ogre, specifically by tricking it to turn into a mouse and then eating it, allowing the peasant to have its lands, gold and castle to back up his claims to nobility and allowing him to marry a princess. Interestingly, in shrek the ogre is the peasant pretending to be a prince and the fairy helping him is the villain, while puss is still associated with her but mostly a side character.

  • @hannahmetzger4880
    @hannahmetzger4880 Рік тому +48

    I feel like Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 and Grimmel the Grisly from How To Train Your Dragon 3 are _my_ personal picks tied for number one, _best_ DreamWorks villains. :3. But that's just me. :P.

  • @queenc_x
    @queenc_x Рік тому +17

    The world needs a Fairy Godmother spinoff series with Saunders returning. I wanna see more of her, possibly in a trilogy.

  • @chocochef3092
    @chocochef3092 Рік тому +9

    The incomparable and legendary Jennifer Saunders did excellent in voicing and giving life to FGM.

  • @RachaelLink
    @RachaelLink Рік тому +12

    Fairy Godmother is my favourite Dreamworks villain. It’s a really well written character and really well cast. It was one of the characters they had the most trouble casting as well. They needed someone who was sweet and could do spite, which Jennifer Saunders is very good at. Saunders got the role because someone found an old singing/voice cassette tape she had sent in for an audition almost 20 years prior to her voicing the role. They’d found the tape in the archives and they gave it to the producers of Shrek because they knew they were still trying to cast fairy godmother. Saunders really adds a lot to the role and I think she draws on Edie from Ab Fab. Also the casting for this entire film is stellar so they all add to the villainy of the fairy godmother.

  • @loulie1997
    @loulie1997 Рік тому +6

    I never realized it was up for debate that the Fairy Godmother was the one who put Fiona in the tower, I had always assumed that’s what they were alluding to 😅

  • @agcaoiliproductions9580
    @agcaoiliproductions9580 Рік тому +10

    And she doesn’t even provide Dental.

  • @calvinbethea3369
    @calvinbethea3369 Рік тому +3

    The brilliance of the first two Shrek movies is the made the characters much more complex exploring personal motivation. This made them more than standard archetypes but fully rendered people, even the villains. The lord and godmother both could not get past how their personal agendas effected others thus making them real evil as apposed to cartoony evil.

  • @itzelmontalvo6645
    @itzelmontalvo6645 Рік тому +4

    Ranking Shrek films main villains from best to worst:
    1. Fairy Godmother
    2. Rumpelstiltskin
    3. Lord Farquaad
    3. Prince Charming

  • @bbuny10
    @bbuny10 Рік тому +4

    My dad always said:
    “the mark of a good villain is when you genuinely hate them. The mark of a good actor is when they play a villain so well you actually hate them”

  • @ti4383
    @ti4383 Рік тому +9

    They did at such a good job at making kids scared of the fairy god mother, I was so scared of her when I was younger even tho she was a gorgeous character.

  • @anobody6564
    @anobody6564 Рік тому +40

    Yes!!! The Shrek franchise is honestly so beautiful and holds up extremely well up to today. She was a lovely, interesting, horrible character in all the best ways possible. Made to hate her, grown to love her... or the opposite? Nontheless

  • @AH-is5yg
    @AH-is5yg Рік тому +3

    She works so well because they said she was behind Fiona's curse and that's setting everything emotion throughout the whole Shrek movie franchise.

  • @calvoekleiden8664
    @calvoekleiden8664 Рік тому +3

    I think that the “villain(s)” of megamind are the best and most intriguing of dreamworks movies but honestly that’s like my favorite movie because it’s just so damn good

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 Рік тому +10

    3:03, it’s probably the most plausible fan theory ever but it’s not necessarily the case.

  • @nohemigomez9338
    @nohemigomez9338 Рік тому +12

    My questions remain the same since this movie first came out... how is Charming a prince and not a fairy? Also who tapped that fairy 😭?

    • @samschiang
      @samschiang Рік тому +8

      who WOULDNT tap that fairy

    • @elainaswanson4364
      @elainaswanson4364 Рік тому +3

      It was probably another love potion situation, and he is also probably not actually a prince, like, legally? That's my go at it

    • @LaundryFaerie
      @LaundryFaerie Рік тому

      You've heard of fairy princesses... He's just a fairy prince.

  • @amsterdamandco
    @amsterdamandco Рік тому +6

    Ah as legendar as she is, I am sure there is space for Dreamworks to create even more sinister and enjoyable characters, especially with the changing times.

  • @crystalthunderheart8895
    @crystalthunderheart8895 Рік тому +3

    It's never said that she was the witch. But inside her factory there is a picture of her and the witch, Not in a manner of being good or evil but displayed in a equal manner.
    Plus all the strange potions and cauldrons.

    • @dewandriadiggs5684
      @dewandriadiggs5684 Рік тому +1

      I can tell you she was the witch.All the secrets are in Shrek 2.Remember the love potion scene.When Harold refused to give Fiona that,Fairy Godmother melted in the face.When she threatened him with her magic wand.If it weren’t for her, he would have never reached Lillian.That’s why he was scared of her so badly.She was a witch that owned a factory business.Using her potions and wand, she could change anything about you to help you reach your happy ever after you kiss them.

  • @MH-dm4qc
    @MH-dm4qc Рік тому +3

    The peacock from Kung Fu Panda would like a word

  • @paulrance5445
    @paulrance5445 Рік тому +4

    She might be the best, but she is certainly not the most evil.
    That goes to Lord Shen.

  • @vladvlad11299
    @vladvlad11299 Рік тому +88

    In my opinion Kung Fu Panda 2: Lord Shen had the best villain

  • @craigbiggam2111
    @craigbiggam2111 Рік тому +4

    Here she's one of the best animated villains. She's in my top ten of villains

  • @FatimaMarques0890
    @FatimaMarques0890 Рік тому +3

    She's ICONIC. But one of the other best villains is Ramses from Prince of Egypt.

  • @Peppermon22
    @Peppermon22 Рік тому +3

    Shrek 2 is one of my favorite movies. I’ve re watched it so many times. The fairy god mother had such a great son. Better than the original

  • @joshuamerriweather2861
    @joshuamerriweather2861 Рік тому +10

    Fairy Godmother and Lord Shen are the most evil villains that DreamWorks created

  • @rocketthedragon7872
    @rocketthedragon7872 Рік тому +1

    For the longest time I thought it was a canonical fact that Fairy Godmother cursed Fiona. I only found out recently that wasn’t the case. It just made so much sense to my little child brain I never thought twice about it.

  • @kanamukherjee6138
    @kanamukherjee6138 11 місяців тому +4

    Shrek 2 was such a great movie! I hope Shrek The Third is as great as Shrek 2!!

  • @LaundryFaerie
    @LaundryFaerie Рік тому +2

    Am I the only one who thinks the Fairy Godmother and Mother Gothel from Tangled would be best frenemies? I mean, they have so much in common: both tend to misuse magic for their own twisted ends, both have a penchant for separating young princesses from their families and locking them up in tall towers, both are rampant narcissists who enjoy manipulating, emotionally abusing and otherwise gaslighting our heroes into doing their bidding, and (spoiler alert) both eventually have their magic turned against them and go poof. Truly a match made in hell

  • @fennec13
    @fennec13 Рік тому +3

    Also Jennifer Saunders did an amazing job voicing the fairy godmother

  • @tmlawson751
    @tmlawson751 Рік тому +2

    My question is, if this was all a set-up (i.e. Fiona's curse, having her posted up in a remote castle guarded by deadly forces), why did Prince Charming TAKE SO LONG TO GET TO HER? In the alternate future where Shrek was never born (Shrek 4?), Charming didn't appear there either, leaving Fiona all alone and cursed until she left on her own accord.

  • @calebglasscock7392
    @calebglasscock7392 Рік тому +8

    I don't understand why Fairy Godmother needed Prince Charming to be king of Far Far Away in the first place thanks to her magic and influence she had more control over the kingdom then Harold and Lilian did and she never would have actually been made queen.

    • @sofiaroura9652
      @sofiaroura9652 Рік тому +12

      I think it's not that she NEEDED him to be king, rather she WANTED him to be king for two reasons:
      1) She loves him and wants him to have the best life, as any mother would.
      2) It would be beneficial for her also, since being "the king's mother" brings some notoriety and allows her to climb socially.
      And for the second point, I'll use the example of Meghan Markle. Not saying she married for the title (not my place to say that), but it's reasonable to think that her status grew as a result of getting married to a royal, and Harry wasn't even the Crown prince...

    • @saranemcova5448
      @saranemcova5448 Рік тому +7

      In the history, there was always tension between "old money" and "new money". She could control the entire kingdom, but she can never openly wear a crown, style herself as a monarch. She wanted her son to become the king, she wanted herself to be mother of the king

    • @alexbolt5
      @alexbolt5 Рік тому

      @@sofiaroura9652 I’m sure she was gonna throw that all away by the films ending. Her plans foiled, the public knowing of her scheme and now being unmasked for what she truelly was. And given the power she seems to have had she not died i’m sure she would’ve threatend everyone in the kingdom to either submit to her and her son or be executed.

  • @heiloniris1747
    @heiloniris1747 Рік тому +2

    Ramses and Lord Shen being thanos snapped into obliteration

  • @whaaat3632
    @whaaat3632 Рік тому +2

    To Mr, Fairy Godmother and Prince Charming are very true to life. I've found that really good looking people are often needy, greedy and nasty... But they get away with it because they are good looking!

  • @Weiyinglou
    @Weiyinglou Рік тому +2

    She didnt cast the curse on Fiona, it could have been a potion maybe. When she died her cast spells became void.

  • @DiscoTimelordASD
    @DiscoTimelordASD Рік тому +3

    The idea she planned everything so far back...

  • @liquidsnakeliker
    @liquidsnakeliker Рік тому +1

    I often wondered if marrying Fiona and getting power was what Charming really wanted, or if he was conditioned to want that by his mummy. I dunno, after seeing ST3rd, I wish he would’ve been a villain who had a redemption arc or something.

  • @julijakeit
    @julijakeit Рік тому +2

    Shrek 2 is a parody of fashionable, rich and famous stars, not the fairy tales themselves. We have a rich and famous princess with a conventional beauty 'problem' and her choice in a husband is an average Joe and not a rich and famous prince (even though she dreamed of that since her childhood and it is implied in the movies that this is what she suppose to want and might not chose it herself), we have personal stylist/lifestyle guru grandmother with ambitions to marry off her son into a royal family. While the first Shrek movie was not-so typical fairly tale it still was a fairy tale. The second movie takes it up a notch by showing the dirty side of Hollywood or any other rich and famous lifestyle.

  • @foreignparticle1320
    @foreignparticle1320 Рік тому +1

    One important element of this character's success is the casting of Jennifer Saunders. She does the cutting dialogue perfectly, and totally gets the narcissistic motivation of the character.

  • @wendyboles5960
    @wendyboles5960 Рік тому +4

    Dream works makes amazing villains

  • @mimiquoi7380
    @mimiquoi7380 Рік тому +6

    I really need to watch this franchise again

    • @zoorockf1
      @zoorockf1 Рік тому +1

      When u do, exklude shrek the third once u finished 2 and just go watch Shrek Forever After

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Рік тому +2

      You should. Those four are all great movies

    • @signa8
      @signa8 Рік тому

      I see someone beat me to it, but SKIP THE THIRD MOVIE HOLY HELL ITS BAD.
      I only saw Shrek 4 less than a year ago because of how bad the third movie was, and I wrote the series off as milked and dead. I genuinely enjoyed watching Forever After, and it's a shame I waited so long.

  • @PeterParker-ff7ub
    @PeterParker-ff7ub Рік тому +3

    Shrek 1 and 2 are wonderful.

  • @interstellarsapien9302
    @interstellarsapien9302 Рік тому +2

    Oh my god it took me this long to realize that Frozen is basically Shrek 2 but Princess Fiona has a sister

  • @CheezDoodlezz
    @CheezDoodlezz Рік тому +1

    My Top 6 Favorite Dreamworks villains
    Lord Shen
    Fairy Godmother
    Lord Farquaad
    Tai Lung
    Kai
    Rumplestiltzskin

  • @katiaazizi
    @katiaazizi Рік тому +6

    I agree I think she was the best villain of the movie.

  • @cipherking4798
    @cipherking4798 Рік тому +7

    Can you do lord shen?

  • @matthewhanlon1568
    @matthewhanlon1568 Рік тому +5

    To be fair lord Shen from king fu panda 2 is a close second 🦚

  • @nope24601
    @nope24601 Рік тому +1

    Archetypes weren't subverted, they shifted. The archetypes are there, just in new clothes.

  • @ZorLink21
    @ZorLink21 Місяць тому +1

    I think the Fairy Godmother is the witch that cursed Fiona to begin with so her son could rule Far Far Away

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Рік тому +3

    Huh, how very fascinating.

  • @Arcanist_The
    @Arcanist_The Рік тому +1

    "Fairy Godmother is the best Dreamworks villain fullstop"
    This is Lord Shen erasure

  • @blueraccoon1088
    @blueraccoon1088 Рік тому +9

    you ask my opinion i belive witch was going to turn her to frog but mistaken for ogre that witch was fairy godmother. plus if charming more screen time he would not love fiiona as ogre since he's in rapunzel (traitor) if someone agrees to that he still wouldn't be king by birthright he's only a tyrant. not the king's choice. I don't have a whole lot but SP if you can Make analysis on PC that could bring more depth in his character

    • @scarychewinggum
      @scarychewinggum Рік тому +2

      He's not actually in love with Rapunzel. It's pretty clear that he manipulated her to get his way with the other princesses. I'm not sure if you caught the D D L G joke in Shrek 3 or if you're too young to even know what that is (don't Google it if so) but it's clear that maybe Rapunzel is in love with him, but he's using her.

  • @LucianCorrvinus
    @LucianCorrvinus Рік тому +1

    Actually ..Lily always love the King....it was he who felt didn't measure up...

  • @acherdeepsawhney2760
    @acherdeepsawhney2760 Рік тому +1

    Nice Video !💞💕

  • @WhiteDragonXXX
    @WhiteDragonXXX Рік тому +1

    All Shrek villains are great, well Charming is ok.

  • @caterpillar1936
    @caterpillar1936 Рік тому

    Belonging is the journey

  • @grasseater6786
    @grasseater6786 Рік тому +1

    Rumpelstiltskin is mad underrated

  • @Kakarot-ox7fh
    @Kakarot-ox7fh Рік тому +4

    The fairy godmother sound like Chloe but smarter

  • @pinkpandamiranda
    @pinkpandamiranda Рік тому +1

    If you haven't done a video on the villain in Megamind from DreamWorks, I'd recommend it!

  • @mistybehaviours
    @mistybehaviours Рік тому +1

    Fairy godmothers character is so fabulously evil

  • @jennieorlando790
    @jennieorlando790 Рік тому +1

    I like Fairy Godmother and Pitch Black from Rise of the Guardians. They're both so manipulative.

  • @kevinhernandez769
    @kevinhernandez769 Рік тому +2

    does anyone think that prince charming looks kind of like jamie lannister? (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau)

  • @infamous0113
    @infamous0113 Рік тому +1

    i also think Eris from Sinbad is one of the best villains theyve written but i feel like no ones seen that movie lol

  • @-a-s-a-s-
    @-a-s-a-s- Рік тому

    Emet-Selch from Final Fantasy 14 is hands down the best written villain of modern times.

  • @adrianramirez8882
    @adrianramirez8882 Рік тому +2

    I wonder who Prince Charmings father is?

  • @simplyserenityofficial
    @simplyserenityofficial Рік тому +2

    this dude needs to make videos on arcane

  • @coryakabueze4541
    @coryakabueze4541 Рік тому

    The fairy godmother is one of the best dream work villains ever

  • @aT3s2
    @aT3s2 Рік тому

    Shrek 2 is just peak filmmaking in general and the best thing Dreamworks has ever done.

  • @Nalhirrim
    @Nalhirrim Рік тому

    I would like to make a case for Rameses.

  • @ShavayD
    @ShavayD Рік тому +1

    Unrelated to the video, but my surname is Dewlok, so I always get confused when ppl are talking about Shrek lol. I don't know if they are talking to me or the town

  • @jaredwilliams4794
    @jaredwilliams4794 Рік тому

    I miss Dreamworks🥺

  • @acenull0
    @acenull0 Рік тому

    Honestly one of my favorite villains 😂

  • @snaketooth0943
    @snaketooth0943 Рік тому

    I'd say my favourite dreamworks villain is Titan from megamind, but Lord Shen from kung fu panda 2 gets pretty close.

  • @ormskirkcleon4287
    @ormskirkcleon4287 Рік тому +4

    Why does prince charming looks like jaimy lannister

  • @liamshaughnessy6246
    @liamshaughnessy6246 Рік тому

    I love this video lol !😂❤️❤️✔️🎃

  • @LucianCorrvinus
    @LucianCorrvinus Рік тому

    Oooo....Shrek five....the prequel...the Fairy Godmother and why she end d up wanting power...

  • @cucublueberry8078
    @cucublueberry8078 Рік тому +2

    Good arguments. But still... Pitch black is DreamWorks best villain 😉