My poem “Rise” is a good place to start. My poem “Hallow” was also well received well, though that one is heavy for some because of the topics I cover in it. You can find my poems in the My Poems playlist on this channel
He said in an interview with Justin Hawkins recently that it wasn't that Sony dropped him. It was just that the contract he made with Sony had a time limit. And the time limit expired because he got VERY sick for over a year and was bedbound. So it wasn't that they dropped him because he got sick... but he got sick and the contract ran out and he wasn't able to complete making the album that he had started making with them. So it wasn't really a malicious nefarious "little guy versus big corporation" situation. It's was just unlucky circumstances and Ren's illness having a really big flare up even if he was undiagnosed at the time.
This one really got me. As a Psych RN this made me reevaluate my approach with my patients. Those of us Mental Health Professionals can sometimes fall into the trap of basically over explaining and psycho analyzing patients with out having the time or the energy to fully understand our patients. Props to Ren for opening my eyes. I love that you break it down and explain it for people to understand his struggles.
I just want to say whoever the woman in this video is, does such a fantastic job. She does it so perfectly, not only on the beat and synching amazingly but also the condescending face and tone she uses is just fucking chef's kiss. Bravo.
the song is also about his issues with the medical system and his rage at the doctors and psychiatrist that couldn't diagnose him fully and how he struggled finding the right fix, and the truth is that he still really hasn't.
I have thought about this alot. In my mind Ren is an artist in the same vein as Banksy. Independent, Emotional, Subversive and sticking it to the industry. Both operate across mediums and have a message in every piece
my touchstone for his whole package of talents is prince, frankly. And I know how bold that is. Obv he doesn’t have the catalog yet but all the skills except maybue dancing.
Just FYI, chronic Lyme is not recognized globally. We are told “it’s in your head”. You have to go outside and find Lyme literate doctors. It’s very expensive and not supported by mainstream. Neuropsychiatric Lyme disease is no joke
This is really surprising to me, Lyme Disease was really at the forefront of my medical education and I am a Chiropractor which doesn't directly deal with these issues (but we need to rule it out due to several issues among those destruction of the bone in the vertebrae). The bone in the spine will get weakened to the point where it will collapse just from the weight of the person's body. It's terrible. I have diagnosed a few cases in my career but it's likely there were many more but early on the symptoms can be difficult to pinpoint unless you can pinpoint the bullseye rash. If you get a rash that looks like a bullseye on a dart board, you likely have Lyme Disease. Get it checked out immediately if you have this. The disease comes from the Ixodes Tick, a smallish tick. Lyme Dz can destroy your life.
@@gametime2473 I would recommend to you the new documentary The silent epidemic. It just dropped last month. Because the mainstream medicine rejects chronic Lyme, it is the natural paths, doctors that had or have experienced Lyme and chiropractors that usually become Lyme literate and treat. My Dr.’s son had Lyme. It’s a common theme in this community. I was super lucky! I knew I was bitten ( no bullseye ). I found a Lyme Dr and was on an aggressive treatment plan on week 3. Even with that it took me down hard neurologically. Took a year to recover with mild residues.
@@ginaarendtson9478My dog had it and we didn't know, he went from just limping on one back leg to losing all mobility in under 24 hours, we had to put diapers on him and pee pads under him because he couldnt hold it anymore, he also had severe pain and seizures. he couldn't walk at all and trying to simply move his legs or move positions on his dog bed he'd scream. Two months of daily antibiotics and he's running around again. It's a terrifying disease that kills alot when not diagnosed or misdiagnosed. My dog is lucky to be alive. We couldn't see any rash because obviously he's a dog and is covered in fur that hid it. From his symptoms the vet immediately ran a blood test and he was positive for lyme disease. We aren't sure how long he had it before having those severe symptoms, and I've never found any ticks on him so I'm not sure when he would've contracted it.
I'm still convinced there's a possibility that in "Illest of our time" when ren says "Banished from the Heavens but I'm knocking on the sky" that that is in reference to losing out on the record contract but succeeding as an independent artist.
Ren recently said he won't say the real meaning behind the pig mask. He said it's very personal to him, but he selfishly loves to hear everyone's interpretations on what it means to them personally.
I do wonder if it represents Ren’s struggle with his demons, but also representative of the record industry, capitalism and pharma that are all exploitative. There is something I read about Solomon’s testament where demons in the form of animals appeared to him. The demons subjected people to illnesses and disease (pertinent?) and Solomon was able to control them with a ring and cure the illnesses (REN’s music contains a number of references to him looking for solutions to his illness but not finding the answer) and mentions of demons. The pig could also be a reference to the pigs in Animal Farm seeking to control and exploit the other animals. Interesting thesis but I really don’t know if this is on point or wildly off it. That’s the thing with Ren though. He makes you think
For some reason I always thought Ren reminds me of Pink Floyd with his deep lyrics, intense/artistic videos and outlook on the world. Its is interesting that they both use the Pig / Animal Farm reference in several songs with greed, power and mental issues, etc.
As a mahoosive fan and lover of Floyd, I can only image how happy and made up Ren would being associated with them and the depth and meaning behind the lyrics ❤
It's readily apparent that Ren has taken a lot of inspiration from PF, especially from Gilmour's guitar style. You can really hear it during the more blues-y track from busking with The Big Push.
This is a wonderful video and very relatable. It is so frustrating to be talked at, instead of with. I am mentally ill but I also suffer from some kind of auto-immune disease (at least most likely) but my physical symptoms get completely ignored, brushed of as psychosomatic. This "It´s all in your head" shit drives me crazy. My head is where my brain is....so yeah, I am sure it´s somewhere in there but help would be nice.
He uses the pig a lot as a reference to Orwell’s Animal Farm. In this video, I think it represents the animals running the “system”. Those in control who just push you through for the money.
He said comodify your gift. And as for the meaning of the pig mask, I think it's really about the experience of being in the health care system where it's not really about helping people it's about selling drugs and making profits. The drug industry is just a huge money making scam.
Capitalist Pig, filth, tactlessness, excess, or gluttony, don't care about the poor, as long as they get pockets full of that Money, they don't care how dirty it has to be to do that, pigs being dirty on the farm.
@@KernowFishy yeah exactly 💯. Ren has repeatedly made references to his anti capitalist views. The raised fist in "Hunger". The Money Game videos. And many more. His experience with the medical industry is obviously the root cause of his political views.
I knew you would like this one 😊 I too am going through the same journey as Ren. We got lyme the same year, misdiagnosed the same length of time. I lost over a decade of my life imprisoned in my body, not knowing if you will live or die.. everyday is still a battle. Lyme that wasn’t treated early robs you of everything. It’s crazy effectively hearing your journals in music form. Recognising that real deep pain and suffering behind his music, I find it so inspiring that he’s been able to turn it into art and is now getting the deserved rewards ❤ without lyme would his art be the same? I hope I can find that same purpose 😌🔥 thanks for the reaction
@@YoungbloodPoetry With this being a poetry channel, I thought this would be a perfect suggestion for your next Ren reaction. Ren composed this piano ballad & wrote this song with Molly. It has spoken word poetry fuzed with melody & rap. It's a beautiful masterpiece. 😳🤯❤ Ren Ft. Molly McKinna - Penitence ua-cam.com/video/R-7UHDoKlMw/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for all of your fantastic reactions. I came here for your Ren reactions but then I watched some of the poetry and it brought me straight back to when my sister and I used to spend so much time writing 'poetry' when we were younger. We had no idea what we were doing but it would bring us closer with an 8 year age gap. She passed away in 2019 to metastatic breast cancer and now I'm going to die of the same thing. Going through some of your poetry made my heart smile with amazing memories 😂
I’m so glad to know that you connected with my poetry. Thank you for the kind words. I really needed it. And I will be praying for your physical health and overall well-being
Oh shit! 3:20 ‘basically your mind is making you sick’ but also sounds like ‘making music’ and he literally is and I don’t know if that was intended but I love that line now, especially in the midst of her blasé approach and representation of generic patient care.
I like your thought that Ren's illness is sort of a blessing in disguise. Ren watches reactions and he might stumble upon yours. I could very well imagine that he picks up your idea and puts it into song. Pls react to Illest Of Our Time next.
I was sooo glad to see you reacted to this! I saw your Hi Ren reaction then promptly looked for this. I wasn't dissappointed. Maybe not your normal vibe musically, BUT Paris Paloma's Labour if you haven't listened is.... Ooof. So f*cking good!
one of the best spoken word performances from the UK is "Fire in the Booth - Akala Part 4" but he dose it after he lays down some hard ass bars. if you ever get the time it's something everyone should watch at least once in their lives.
Regarding the pig head, as I understand it Ren was influenced in his younger years by George Orwell's subversive writing, particularly Animal Farm. That, and the animal head thing appeared in hallucinations for him.
Great reaction as always bro! Good to see you've been doing your research between videos haha! I always see the pig mask as interesting because it's a pig and a butcher at the same time. The imagery always seems to be used in association with the medical profession, and with Ren's history with medical negligence I always took it as a metaphor for how he was "butchered" by misdiagnosis and prescriptions he didn't need - the patient reduced to a kind of livestock, making the fact that the butcher is also a pig (i.e., one of us) all the more poignant. I could be way off base there though 😅
You answered your own question about the pig_butcher. "And at some point that figure started interchanging in and out with the healthcare professional..."
Lately a lot of Ren's reactions seemed to be the same, but it took only one reaction from you to recognize you're clever af.... i really appreciate the sharing of your thoughts with us ❤
The Pig Butcher i believe is the representation of the self consuming nature of capitalism, in Rens videos specifically they're the Pharmasutical and Music Industries
I always see the pig as, in part, the aforementioned reference to Orwell's Animal Farm. The other symbolic image i see is the hypocracy of a pig/butcher versus a health care professional/healer.
I can relate to this so much. My doctors are treating each individual symptoms but not the actual problem. It's so frustrating. The do no harm oath doesn't apply anymore. They get a kickback from every pill they prescribe. That's what the doctor focus on now days. There are a few doctors that actually puts the patients before the kickbacks but they are very few.
Pleeeeease check out an incredible spoken word piece, well.. beat poem.. called Storm by Tim Minchin. He usually does musical comedy, but this is a beat poem about critical thinking. It’s soooo good. 🔥🔥🔥 Make sure to do the live version, not animated version!
Interesting, that is the third different thing that people hear there. Record labels that Can modify your gift. Commodify your gift Come under fire. I will have to check the lyrics to find out which one it is.
The lyric is "Commodify your gift", but I've noticed that the occasional times I've misheard his lyrics, it puts a whole different and equally valid spin on them. A particular example was in Money Game 1 when I heard "We worship the bleak" as "We worship the bleat" as he talked about the way shows and themes repeat in the media. Given that Sony would *absolutely* have had the ability to modify his gift by controlling what he released, that creates a great additional thought tangent.
it's a condemnation of the health profession, hitting back at all the meds he was put on while being told his symptoms were all in his head, all the side effects of those meds causing his psychosis while not helping the root cause of his illness.
I believe the label pulled out under the impression he wouldn't be able to stick to the heavy schedule. They broke the agreement. It thrills me to see him doing this well independently
I think the pig man represents the way both artist are treated by the industry and the way people afflicted with illness are treated by the medical industry
Love the reaction and the idea that Ren being dropped by Sony was a blessing in disguise. Certainly think that Ren wouldn’t have the creative freedom he does as an independent artist. Love to hear your thoughts on Illest of our time but also Penitence or Depression too.
welcome to the wormhole that is Ren, I would recommend "Power" ,"Genesis" "Bitter sweet symphony" "Losing it" also have a look at his live street performances with his band the Big Push "I shot the sheriff" (red braces version) then, when you think are ready, "Suicide" and the emotional "For Joe".......
I'm so glad you mentioned the animal masks and wondered what they mean cause I overlooked the symbolism before. But I do believe there are more than 1 animal head and each represents 1 of 7 deadly sins I could be wrong but there is cat for pride pig for gluttony named Gula, the Goat or in some cases its a rabbit, horse or fox is for lust going by the name of Luxuria. For the toad by the name of Avaritia bears the sin of greed. Next is Superbia, the peacock representing Vanity aka Pride. Then Invidia, the dog that is envious. Ira, the Lion, can't get away from anger and wrath, which leaves last but not least the donkey or mule either by the name Pigritia or the name Acedia representing Sloth. I'm pretty sure this is the theme he's using for the fa e masked animals.
I wanted to add my two cents on the doctor/psycho pig interchange as someone who is disabled from ME/CFS, which I believe is what Ren was misdiagnosed with for 10yrs. This illness, which disables almost everyone it touches, is belittled in society. We're told we're sick, faking, its psychosomatic (which is what the doctor implied at the start of Ren's video.) I literally was treated like this for 5yrs trying to work out wtf was wrong with my body. I saw 13 Doctors, 2 surgeons, gynecologists, etc trying to get someone to believe me. This shit is commonplace in my community. I feel like the pig "butcher" reference is linked back to the imbalance of power in every doctors office, especially where mental health and physical symptoms are both present. Doctors have so much power to help or destroy someone's only hope with 1 decision. They can make split second decisions that can negatively impact their future care, job opportunities and relationships. That fear of doctors is felt keenly in both POC communities (especially black communities) and disabled communities. Im not 100% but that was my take away 😊
Check out Chinchilla his sister from another Mr, who sang ChalkOutlines with him. She went independently around the same time, they were with the same management but going nowhere. Then boom........
I heard a reactor who is a psychologist and said the pig represented the system. Pigs are usually sent out for slaughter and he feels slaughted by the system. He replied to her, the reactor, yes.
From what I understand, the pig is something he would see in his head during a psychotic break. It represents the "system", capitalism, corporate greed, and the medical complex. Please do a reaction for Crutch ft Bibi. I appreciate you!
it was sony and they didnt know it was lyme disese they dropped him long before the diagnosis and it is absolutely a blessing in disguise sony wouldnt let him talk like this about the psychotropic industrial complex
If you want to know what the pig mask is all about may I suggest you listen to the Pink Floyd ANIMALS album. I believe it explains his thought process about things quite well my friend. Nice reaction. 👍😎
Misdiagnosis is a huge problem, especially with the money in big pharma ,being passed from Dr to Dr , from Hospital to hospital and specialist to specialist can really destroy any faith that you might of had in a process .. n the number of young lads, especially in England, commit suicide while in the process of trying to find a diagnosis or trying to sort out a misdiagnosis..
Can't claim to have ever talked to the guy so I don't know his perspective, but we've got universal healthcare. Pharmaceutical companies have no leverage in the UK. If they want access to the country then they have to play by our rules and accept what we're willing to pay. The worst our doctors can do is to get it wrong or to dismiss your concerns.
Ok, now I got to check your poetry even though poetry isn't really my cup of tea. Can you give a me recommodation where to to start, please?
My poem “Rise” is a good place to start. My poem “Hallow” was also well received well, though that one is heavy for some because of the topics I cover in it. You can find my poems in the My Poems playlist on this channel
The verse is..."Record label meetings that comodify your gift, boi." It was good that Sony dropped Ren. Their loss is our gain.
My Poem is the Greatest of all time!!!
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He said in an interview with Justin Hawkins recently that it wasn't that Sony dropped him. It was just that the contract he made with Sony had a time limit. And the time limit expired because he got VERY sick for over a year and was bedbound. So it wasn't that they dropped him because he got sick... but he got sick and the contract ran out and he wasn't able to complete making the album that he had started making with them. So it wasn't really a malicious nefarious "little guy versus big corporation" situation. It's was just unlucky circumstances and Ren's illness having a really big flare up even if he was undiagnosed at the time.
@@AnxietyRat Thanks for the update. I caught the interview after I commented.
For real tho however it happened, its a blessing in disguise.
This one really got me. As a Psych RN this made me reevaluate my approach with my patients. Those of us Mental Health Professionals can sometimes fall into the trap of basically over explaining and psycho analyzing patients with out having the time or the energy to fully understand our patients. Props to Ren for opening my eyes. I love that you break it down and explain it for people to understand his struggles.
Bless you x
Mad respect for being open to content like this and using it in your own life to better help your patients! ❤
Thank you for realising - bless you
I just want to say whoever the woman in this video is, does such a fantastic job. She does it so perfectly, not only on the beat and synching amazingly but also the condescending face and tone she uses is just fucking chef's kiss. Bravo.
the song is also about his issues with the medical system and his rage at the doctors and psychiatrist that couldn't diagnose him fully and how he struggled finding the right fix, and the truth is that he still really hasn't.
The pig is his statement on the medical system and the callousness of it. He said he had PTSD from his dealings with the medical profession.
Well he has never officially said what it means, but I do think you’re on the right track. Systematic greed in healthcare/government
Ren said that the pig is a reference to George Orwell's Animal Farm
That’s my take as well….. the pig is symbolic of the medical industry.
It would cause anyone PTSD
I have thought about this alot. In my mind Ren is an artist in the same vein as Banksy. Independent, Emotional, Subversive and sticking it to the industry. Both operate across mediums and have a message in every piece
That is a good comparison- They are true artists, not interested in fame or fortune.
The irony is that their talent is priceless, yet their art is virtually free (in most cases; some exceptions apply). Good observation, Nick.
my touchstone for his whole package of talents is prince, frankly. And I know how bold that is. Obv he doesn’t have the catalog yet but all the skills except maybue dancing.
@@loadedorygun his struggles are his dance
@@alimac1469 well I mean with hips and waist movement lol
Just FYI, chronic Lyme is not recognized globally. We are told “it’s in your head”.
You have to go outside and find Lyme literate doctors. It’s very expensive and not supported by mainstream.
Neuropsychiatric Lyme disease is no joke
This is really surprising to me, Lyme Disease was really at the forefront of my medical education and I am a Chiropractor which doesn't directly deal with these issues (but we need to rule it out due to several issues among those destruction of the bone in the vertebrae). The bone in the spine will get weakened to the point where it will collapse just from the weight of the person's body. It's terrible. I have diagnosed a few cases in my career but it's likely there were many more but early on the symptoms can be difficult to pinpoint unless you can pinpoint the bullseye rash. If you get a rash that looks like a bullseye on a dart board, you likely have Lyme Disease. Get it checked out immediately if you have this. The disease comes from the Ixodes Tick, a smallish tick. Lyme Dz can destroy your life.
@@gametime2473
I would recommend to you the new documentary The silent epidemic. It just dropped last month.
Because the mainstream medicine rejects chronic Lyme, it is the natural paths, doctors that had or have experienced Lyme and chiropractors that usually become Lyme literate and treat.
My Dr.’s son had Lyme. It’s a common theme in this community.
I was super lucky! I knew I was bitten ( no bullseye ). I found a Lyme Dr and was on an aggressive treatment plan on week 3.
Even with that it took me down hard neurologically. Took a year to recover with mild residues.
@@ginaarendtson9478My dog had it and we didn't know, he went from just limping on one back leg to losing all mobility in under 24 hours, we had to put diapers on him and pee pads under him because he couldnt hold it anymore, he also had severe pain and seizures. he couldn't walk at all and trying to simply move his legs or move positions on his dog bed he'd scream. Two months of daily antibiotics and he's running around again. It's a terrifying disease that kills alot when not diagnosed or misdiagnosed. My dog is lucky to be alive. We couldn't see any rash because obviously he's a dog and is covered in fur that hid it. From his symptoms the vet immediately ran a blood test and he was positive for lyme disease. We aren't sure how long he had it before having those severe symptoms, and I've never found any ticks on him so I'm not sure when he would've contracted it.
Odd as neuroborreliosis and Lyme psychosis are known effects of Lyme pathogens infections.
I'm still convinced there's a possibility that in "Illest of our time" when ren says "Banished from the Heavens but I'm knocking on the sky" that that is in reference to losing out on the record contract but succeeding as an independent artist.
Ooh. I like that interpretation.
Wasn't Freddie Kruger banished from the heavens? It would also fit with the Kruger reference earlier
Probably
@@kevbruce9191 Sony dropped Freddie Kruger as well ?? Sheesh !
@@sammyd8860 Sony didn't drop ren, his contract ended, and he was very sick, so he couldn't do the projects that he wanted to.
Sony dropped him in 2010 not long after he became ill (6 years before the Lyme Disease diagnosis)
Yeah this.
Probably the person with the highest authority on how cutthroat the music industry is.
Smdh. I have a feeling they will regret it.
A BIG FAT EGG ON SONY'S FACE!
Talk about a backfire - Just wait.. You'll see 🔥
Sony's such a dirty fucking company.
Ren recently said he won't say the real meaning behind the pig mask. He said it's very personal to him, but he selfishly loves to hear everyone's interpretations on what it means to them personally.
Said it when reacting to knox's reacation of himself 😅
I do wonder if it represents Ren’s struggle with his demons, but also representative of the record industry, capitalism and pharma that are all exploitative. There is something I read about Solomon’s testament where demons in the form of animals appeared to him. The demons subjected people to illnesses and disease (pertinent?) and Solomon was able to control them with a ring and cure the illnesses (REN’s music contains a number of references to him looking for solutions to his illness but not finding the answer) and mentions of demons. The pig could also be a reference to the pigs in Animal Farm seeking to control and exploit the other animals. Interesting thesis but I really don’t know if this is on point or wildly off it. That’s the thing with Ren though. He makes you think
For some reason I always thought Ren reminds me of Pink Floyd with his deep lyrics, intense/artistic videos and outlook on the world.
Its is interesting that they both use the Pig / Animal Farm reference in several songs with greed, power and mental issues, etc.
Yeah I compared him with Pink Floyd also. The messages are similar.
Yes! Floyds The Wall came straight to mind. Comfortably Numb in particular.
As a mahoosive fan and lover of Floyd, I can only image how happy and made up Ren would being associated with them and the depth and meaning behind the lyrics ❤
Dave Gilmour.and Ren live in Hove
It's readily apparent that Ren has taken a lot of inspiration from PF, especially from Gilmour's guitar style. You can really hear it during the more blues-y track from busking with The Big Push.
Ren loves George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm
Because in the UK they make you read it as a youngster. Hence why says can't really remember as was 20 years back
The sample that sounds like children singing in a foreign language is so effective. Just gives me the chills, in a good way.
"Record label meetings that commodify your gift, boy."
This is a wonderful video and very relatable. It is so frustrating to be talked at, instead of with. I am mentally ill but I also suffer from some kind of auto-immune disease (at least most likely) but my physical symptoms get completely ignored, brushed of as psychosomatic.
This "It´s all in your head" shit drives me crazy. My head is where my brain is....so yeah, I am sure it´s somewhere in there but help would be nice.
The line is “record label meetings that commodify your gift boi”
He uses the pig a lot as a reference to Orwell’s Animal Farm. In this video, I think it represents the animals running the “system”. Those in control who just push you through for the money.
He said comodify your gift.
And as for the meaning of the pig mask, I think it's really about the experience of being in the health care system where it's not really about helping people it's about selling drugs and making profits. The drug industry is just a huge money making scam.
Capitalist Pig, filth, tactlessness, excess, or gluttony, don't care about the poor, as long as they get pockets full of that Money, they don't care how dirty it has to be to do that, pigs being dirty on the farm.
yup, was gonna say that. Also , i think, about being turned into a product to be chewed up and spat out like he was by the record label.
@@KernowFishy yeah exactly 💯. Ren has repeatedly made references to his anti capitalist views. The raised fist in "Hunger". The Money Game videos. And many more.
His experience with the medical industry is obviously the root cause of his political views.
He said can modify your gift
@@darrellmills nope. He said comodify. As in use your gift as a commodity. So commodify your gift as in make money from it.
Ren says the pig means something very specific to him but he enjoys seeing how others interpret it so much that he will save telling us until later.
The lyric is 'Record label meetings that commodify your gift boi'.
I knew you would like this one 😊 I too am going through the same journey as Ren. We got lyme the same year, misdiagnosed the same length of time. I lost over a decade of my life imprisoned in my body, not knowing if you will live or die.. everyday is still a battle. Lyme that wasn’t treated early robs you of everything. It’s crazy effectively hearing your journals in music form. Recognising that real deep pain and suffering behind his music, I find it so inspiring that he’s been able to turn it into art and is now getting the deserved rewards ❤ without lyme would his art be the same? I hope I can find that same purpose 😌🔥 thanks for the reaction
I’m wishing you and REN the best of health
@@YoungbloodPoetry With this being a poetry channel, I thought this would be a perfect suggestion for your next Ren reaction. Ren composed this piano ballad & wrote this song with Molly. It has spoken word poetry fuzed with melody & rap. It's a beautiful masterpiece. 😳🤯❤
Ren Ft. Molly McKinna - Penitence
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Great reaction. The line is "Record label meetings that commodify your gift"... not come under fire.
Can modify your gift
@@darrellmills no it's definitely commodify... Look up the lyrics. As in make your gift a commodity
@@jimjamdetecting1176 Just did, my bad
Played it back 4 times as well 😂 I’m English as well, must be the brummie in me 🤦🏻♂👍🏼
@@darrellmills 🤣
My Poem is the Greatest of all time!!!
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Sick-boi and Hi Ren are both filmed in the same room.
He’s talking about the psych meds they put him on when they misdiagnosed him with mental illness instead of Lyme disease.
Thank you so much for all of your fantastic reactions. I came here for your Ren reactions but then I watched some of the poetry and it brought me straight back to when my sister and I used to spend so much time writing 'poetry' when we were younger. We had no idea what we were doing but it would bring us closer with an 8 year age gap. She passed away in 2019 to metastatic breast cancer and now I'm going to die of the same thing. Going through some of your poetry made my heart smile with amazing memories 😂
I’m so glad to know that you connected with my poetry. Thank you for the kind words. I really needed it. And I will be praying for your physical health and overall well-being
I'm so very sorry, seeing as I can't hug you through the screen, I want to send you some virtual hugs and positive vibes ❤❤
6:31 Record label meetings that commodify your gift... Love your reactions & Poetry.
been going through your reactions of ren, you didnt do the hunger yet or him busking on the street. this guy is just so talented
REN is underrated, transcends so many genre.
Oh shit! 3:20 ‘basically your mind is making you sick’ but also sounds like ‘making music’ and he literally is and I don’t know if that was intended but I love that line now, especially in the midst of her blasé approach and representation of generic patient care.
I like your thought that Ren's illness is sort of a blessing in disguise. Ren watches reactions and he might stumble upon yours. I could very well imagine that he picks up your idea and puts it into song.
Pls react to Illest Of Our Time next.
I think that's what Ren refers to in Illest of our Time when he says his depression is a blessing in disguise.
I'm really glad that checking out all the Ren reactions brought me to this channel. You've got stuff to day, too.
This therapy is so close to home, it’s like they have a script they all follow
I was sooo glad to see you reacted to this! I saw your Hi Ren reaction then promptly looked for this. I wasn't dissappointed.
Maybe not your normal vibe musically, BUT Paris Paloma's Labour if you haven't listened is.... Ooof. So f*cking good!
Not the first time he mentions "Counter Intelligence"
Think about it, it's not James Bond, he means that litteraly...
Great reaction brother ✊🏽Being dropped by Sony was the making of Ren, no way he could be so real under a label.... Long live Independence... 🤘🏼
one of the best spoken word performances from the UK is "Fire in the Booth - Akala Part 4" but he dose it after he lays down some hard ass bars. if you ever get the time it's something everyone should watch at least once in their lives.
Seems like Ren has been a good influence for you ❤ love it when artists can feed off each other’s energy and produce more amazing work
The room is the same one used in Hi Ren. Good eye, he has a 12-minute behind the scenes of Hi Ren and explains they used the room in Sick Boi.
I think its a Capitalist Pig, a common term to use way back in the day.
More Ren! 🔥✌️
they dropped him when the symptoms started, it was long before the correct diagnosis finally came up.
Regarding the pig head, as I understand it Ren was influenced in his younger years by George Orwell's subversive writing, particularly Animal Farm. That, and the animal head thing appeared in hallucinations for him.
Great reaction as always bro! Good to see you've been doing your research between videos haha!
I always see the pig mask as interesting because it's a pig and a butcher at the same time. The imagery always seems to be used in association with the medical profession, and with Ren's history with medical negligence I always took it as a metaphor for how he was "butchered" by misdiagnosis and prescriptions he didn't need - the patient reduced to a kind of livestock, making the fact that the butcher is also a pig (i.e., one of us) all the more poignant. I could be way off base there though 😅
That's a sound interpretation. I'm inclined to agree with you
You answered your own question about the pig_butcher. "And at some point that figure started interchanging in and out with the healthcare professional..."
Lately a lot of Ren's reactions seemed to be the same, but it took only one reaction from you to recognize you're clever af....
i really appreciate the sharing of your thoughts with us ❤
He has a specific meaning for the Pig but won't say what it is. Seems like the pig from Animal Farm by George Orwell to me
Pigs also represent greed in Buddhism which I heard he has read a bit on.
I read a previous comment that he wanted to use the lyrics "like pigs to the slaughter" in a song and I guess that the meaning and imagery stuck.
He has mentioned that Animal Farm is one of his favourite books. So maybe, who knows?
Just a detail, he says "record label meetings that commodify your gift, boy".
The Pig Butcher i believe is the representation of the self consuming nature of capitalism, in Rens videos specifically they're the Pharmasutical and Music Industries
I always see the pig as, in part, the aforementioned reference to Orwell's Animal Farm. The other symbolic image i see is the hypocracy of a pig/butcher versus a health care professional/healer.
I can relate to this so much. My doctors are treating each individual symptoms but not the actual problem. It's so frustrating. The do no harm oath doesn't apply anymore. They get a kickback from every pill they prescribe. That's what the doctor focus on now days. There are a few doctors that actually puts the patients before the kickbacks but they are very few.
Pleeeeease check out an incredible spoken word piece, well.. beat poem.. called Storm by Tim Minchin. He usually does musical comedy, but this is a beat poem about critical thinking. It’s soooo good. 🔥🔥🔥 Make sure to do the live version, not animated version!
Oh, yes. It is phenomenally good. 🔥🔥🔥
Yes yes yes
lol loved that impromptu rhyme at the beginning lol was perfect
I love your reactions. This is pretty deep. I write poetry as well. It is rather dark. Thank you for being yourself. 💙
Is your poetry available anywhere? I'm interested! Cheers
Interesting, that is the third different thing that people hear there.
Record labels that
Can modify your gift.
Commodify your gift
Come under fire.
I will have to check the lyrics to find out which one it is.
The lyric is "Commodify your gift", but I've noticed that the occasional times I've misheard his lyrics, it puts a whole different and equally valid spin on them. A particular example was in Money Game 1 when I heard "We worship the bleak" as "We worship the bleat" as he talked about the way shows and themes repeat in the media. Given that Sony would *absolutely* have had the ability to modify his gift by controlling what he released, that creates a great additional thought tangent.
"Record label meetings that can modify your gift, boy"
it's a condemnation of the health profession, hitting back at all the meds he was put on while being told his symptoms were all in his head, all the side effects of those meds causing his psychosis while not helping the root cause of his illness.
Ren is a master of his craft😲
I believe the label pulled out under the impression he wouldn't be able to stick to the heavy schedule. They broke the agreement. It thrills me to see him doing this well independently
'Record label meetings that commodify your gift, boy'
"Losing patience/patients with the process..."
Ren is so special
(I think the line is "record lable meetings that commodify your gift boy")
The man in tyhe pigs head is a metaphore for the medical industry.
"Record labels who want to commodify your gift boy..." they just want to make money of you!
I think the pig man represents the way both artist are treated by the industry and the way people afflicted with illness are treated by the medical industry
The sample song is "Bre Petrunko" I just love seeing you vibe with the song 🥳
Love the reaction and the idea that Ren being dropped by Sony was a blessing in disguise. Certainly think that Ren wouldn’t have the creative freedom he does as an independent artist. Love to hear your thoughts on Illest of our time but also Penitence or Depression too.
Renegade subbed and liked to help Ren's rising tide lift all ships 🌊 including yours my friend ❤️ I am also a poet so I really enjoy your POV 😊
Loved your rhyming flow at the beginning, was jumping about with ya x
Record label meetings that commodify your gift boy.....
U Are You And UR Beautifully Marked
I hope he heals enough to tour the US. I'll throw my money at him. I obviously want him to convalesce, but it would be an honor to see him live.
Good call relating this to money game I think. It’s like his personal money game story for real in this song.
I don't know how people don't get that the pig doctor is the doctor personified.
I’ve literally just come from checking out “Marked” and now another Ren reaction. I’m having a very good morning. 👌🏻😁
welcome to the wormhole that is Ren, I would recommend "Power" ,"Genesis" "Bitter sweet symphony" "Losing it" also have a look at his live street performances with his band the Big Push "I shot the sheriff" (red braces version) then, when you think are ready, "Suicide" and the emotional "For Joe".......
Was just singned by Sony.
The piggy is a hallucination.
I'm so glad you mentioned the animal masks and wondered what they mean cause I overlooked the symbolism before. But I do believe there are more than 1 animal head and each represents 1 of 7 deadly sins I could be wrong but there is cat for pride pig for gluttony named Gula, the Goat or in some cases its a rabbit, horse or fox is for lust going by the name of Luxuria. For the toad by the name of Avaritia bears the sin of greed. Next is Superbia, the peacock representing Vanity aka Pride. Then Invidia, the dog that is envious. Ira, the Lion, can't get away from anger and wrath, which leaves last but not least the donkey or mule either by the name Pigritia or the name Acedia representing Sloth. I'm pretty sure this is the theme he's using for the fa e masked animals.
The pig man is a representation of the "doctors" which through their misdiagnosis, were more akin to butchers.
I wanted to add my two cents on the doctor/psycho pig interchange as someone who is disabled from ME/CFS, which I believe is what Ren was misdiagnosed with for 10yrs.
This illness, which disables almost everyone it touches, is belittled in society. We're told we're sick, faking, its psychosomatic (which is what the doctor implied at the start of Ren's video.) I literally was treated like this for 5yrs trying to work out wtf was wrong with my body. I saw 13 Doctors, 2 surgeons, gynecologists, etc trying to get someone to believe me. This shit is commonplace in my community.
I feel like the pig "butcher" reference is linked back to the imbalance of power in every doctors office, especially where mental health and physical symptoms are both present. Doctors have so much power to help or destroy someone's only hope with 1 decision. They can make split second decisions that can negatively impact their future care, job opportunities and relationships. That fear of doctors is felt keenly in both POC communities (especially black communities) and disabled communities.
Im not 100% but that was my take away 😊
My guess it's Professor Pyg is a supervillain who appears in comic books published by DC Comics, an adversary of Batman.
Reaction suggestion - REN "Crucify Your Culture". A fantastic song devoid of his health issues.
Check out Chinchilla his sister from another Mr, who sang ChalkOutlines with him. She went independently around the same time, they were with the same management but going nowhere. Then boom........
I’ve reacted to Chalk Outlines. It was an awesome collaboration between Chinchilla and Ren
@@YoungbloodPoetry Chinchilla has just dropped a new song, she is so unique just like Ren 👍. Love from the UK
I heard a reactor who is a psychologist and said the pig represented the system. Pigs are usually sent out for slaughter and he feels slaughted by the system. He replied to her, the reactor, yes.
I love your reactions.
It was Sony, and it was do to his health and not being able to tour and stuff
Hooked on Ren, the guy NEVER disappoints.
Great reaction
From what I understand, the pig is something he would see in his head during a psychotic break. It represents the "system", capitalism, corporate greed, and the medical complex. Please do a reaction for Crutch ft Bibi. I appreciate you!
ren is great, good review
it was sony and they didnt know it was lyme disese they dropped him long before the diagnosis and it is absolutely a blessing in disguise sony wouldnt let him talk like this about the psychotropic industrial complex
If you want to know what the pig mask is all about may I suggest you listen to the Pink Floyd ANIMALS album. I believe it explains his thought process about things quite well my friend. Nice reaction. 👍😎
Or to walk back further from that album into more context, the novel animal farm by George Orwell. The pigs run shit.
Misdiagnosis is a huge problem, especially with the money in big pharma ,being passed from Dr to Dr , from Hospital to hospital and specialist to specialist can really destroy any faith that you might of had in a process .. n the number of young lads, especially in England, commit suicide while in the process of trying to find a diagnosis or trying to sort out a misdiagnosis..
Beat was Meant to drown out the doctor in the beginning! Think about it...
Best artists of our time our not signed...they are able to be real...not what they tell you to be
21 LOVE THE SYSTEM
I think the pig mask might be a reference to Napoleon and the other greedy pigs in Animal Farm by Orwell 🤷♂️
I always took the pig to be showing the capitalistic money grabbing nature of the medical industry, since he's always in the doctor get up
Can't claim to have ever talked to the guy so I don't know his perspective, but we've got universal healthcare. Pharmaceutical companies have no leverage in the UK. If they want access to the country then they have to play by our rules and accept what we're willing to pay.
The worst our doctors can do is to get it wrong or to dismiss your concerns.
Please check out these others by Ren "Dominoes" "Ocean" ft Eden Nash "Humble" ft. Eden Nash