Miami Heat Lose Caleb Martin To Sixers For Reportedly A Lot Less Money
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Tobin reacts to Miami Heat watching Caleb Martin walk in free agency for reportedly a lot less money. Are Heat too concerned with damage control and is this the worst summer in a long time for Miami?
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Calebs agent clearly packs a pb&j for lunch and wears jeans to work because how do you say Miami didn’t offer enough and then take less
Because he thought his market was going to be bigger, and opted out rather than sign the bigger extension while being opted-in. Huge fuck up.
@@greenlion6544 is this was last year he would have got a bag for sure
Not agents fault. It's all on Riley.
@@juliogonzalez4764 it’s Riley’s fault that the agent told Caleb he could get more than the Heat were offering on the open market and turned down a lot more money with the Heat? 🤣 My God, you need a refund from whatever school you went to.
That's not nice. @@greenlion6544
It was bound to happen, but bro fumbled the bag. They probably promised him a starting role or something. Either way, him and his agent still folded
Martin stinks last year,weak
Or Caleb didn't want to stay on the Heat.
More years.
@@OmaAlkebulan-grace nah, 20 million less
Still more money than your gonna make in your lifetime bud 😂
The current Heat issues are losing players/not trading players before the drop off and not getting assets. Gotta improve the overall asset management department cause they’re droppin’ the ball.
Exactly he would’ve been good in a trade package
Philly has a nice starting 5
It’s gonna get even better kiddo, tons of assets.
Pat said to Caleb's agent "The damage is done, my friend"😂😂
It's all propaganda. Nobody has the balls to point it out because they don't want to lose their credentials. Heat front office worried about damage control is pitiful. Worry about making the bleeping team better!
This.
You see, it's all about target audience. To you it's propaganda. To players, teams and agents it's business. You don't think these things matter to the workforce that you have to deal with in order to fill your team?
Caleb saved the Heat from themselves. 👏 👏 👏
Facts 💯 Miami HEAT 4 Life
💯
Facts, this roster needs a shake up
He carried Heat to the Finals
Nah he didn't @jimmyjay689
This leans more towards Bam playing the four! Hopefully Jovic gets played at the three spot!
I’d like that
Jovic is atrocious defense. He is a trade piece.
@@MarkyMark9mmhe's 6'11" at the small forward. You don't have to be goddamn Herb Jones when you're that tall at that position.
Next get rid of Herro
Stop the damn herro hate the boy been balling since his rookie year he's been better every year
Pat Riley first
In a Hurry
@@glennallen6663 that’s regular season nonsense . Numbers down across the board every playoffs
@@glennallen6663trash
If it weren’t for the Heat, the guy would be working at Denny’s. This makes sense
Heat were gonna offer him 5 years 65 million! What are thet thinking. Thank God he opted out. Now we about to waste big money on Highsmith...
He gone lol
Nothing official tho?@@YungGrandp4
this is exactly Y were @ our cap! bad business! It's time for the Heat front office to hire a real accountant & stop w/ the "Heat culture" promoting w/in BS
Absolutely he was a big waste of money let's get rozen or lauri
RIP this Heat fan 1988-2024. This was the final nail in the coffin for me. I lost my wife, house, custody of the kids, career, etc thanks to this team. I bet on both NBA finals and lost it all in 2023.
Losing caleb is tough bro there goes or wing defender we better have a good summer league today
I like reports on facts! Less opinions and rumors😂
I saw this coming when I went to the Heat-76ers game after Kyle signed with them. Kyle and Caleb spent a lot of time at halfcourt talking with their hand over their mouth before the game.
Sixers still stink,Joel hurt , George old ,martin is on and off, nobody cares😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tampering 😂
So you think that's why Caleb took less to go to Philadelphia? Fascinating 😮
@@Wilcoranking I said I saw it coming, not that it's why Caleb signed. Enjoy your day of dropping snarky comments on the internet. Must be so exciting.
@@robinshaul4069😭
So this is what it’s felt to be a Knicks fan the past 20-30 years eh?
When did the Knicks go to the finals in this century
Sixers fan. Except we handed away jimmy butler to you guys and mikal bridges to the now Knicks and the list goes on lol
I'm I the only one who thinks he regressed last year? He provided little help on offense when we needed him to step up. His agent did us a favor.
your the only one.
@carlhammill5774 Based on how his free agency went, I don't think so.
He wasn't ECF Caleb but he was worth the money we offered. His on ball def will be missed
Yeah, he played like crap last season.
Sixers will stink so bad over the next few years,old man George,joel,and now worn out martin
Yeah ok...Keep crying yourself to sleep saying that Robin 🤣🤣
Lol you sound real scared bro.. it's cool
George is not that good ,old Joel always hurt,snow sucks🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉@@moneymarr
@@ryancampbell1847bam can kick anybody az in NBA ,butler.Sixers are pussys who cheat Boston knicks and bucks I would pick over nasty philly😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You sound jealous to me@@moneymarr
Dude got that Bam dribble hand off down 18 with 2 minutes left of a game in round one and said I’m outies
Caleb let his agents make a huge mistake
We have enough
Thank you
For what??? The Play In? 🤣🤣
😅🤣😂
😂😅
Who the sixers or heat?
Miami offered him more and he didn't sign thinking he can get more than the market dries up and he signs for less just to not have to come back to Miami Heat with his tail tucked between his legs
Facts & as a sixers fan this feels like a steal! I mean hartenstein hit 10 floaters in a decent series against us & netted a 29M contract.
Forget that, Miami finally gonna have a real frontcourt unit.
As a heat fan my reaction is SO WHAT??? These undrafted players are given a chance and are made to look better than they actually thanks to SPO being a great coach. Just watch by the end of next season Caleb will either be back in the G League or on the bench with no playing time
I doubt it. Just his hustle on defense is enough to give him some minutes
Thank goodness he played. Am tired of Heat overplaying players.
Tyler Johnson, Whiteside, washed Lowry, dion waiters, heck we even paid james johnson 14 million for his 8 points on 33% from 3 that year.
Our team would have a lot more options if we werent paying overpaid role player Herro 29 million this season.
Excellent bench player for Heat. 2023 playoff performance vs.Celtics alone increased his value. Another G league project who shined with Heat. I predict he will not be better anywhere else. Just like Gabe Vincent in LA.
This front office continues to piss fans off 🤬🤬🤬
Speak for yourself.
@@dennislopez1272 ur the problem. Brainwashed
He fucked up by playing hard ball.
It’s ridiculous how Caleb gets 8M per and Hartenstein gets 29M per
Impact...Martins is minimal
@@jimmyjay689 This. Caleb is average AF.
Did you see how Caleb played last year vs how hartenstein played last year & imma heat fan… Caleb stunk it tf up last year
Sad day for the Heat & Caleb
Mostly Caleb. Guy lost over $25 million 😂
caleb thought too much of himself
Who cares! If I'm the heat i would put that info out there too! He's an idiot to take a deal a whole lot less
The Heat got worse at the end of the day so.
Newsflash: Caleb Martin signs with the Sixers for an opportunity to play with Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey and PG-13. Build his Brand on a Championship Team. GO SIXERS ❤️💙❤️💙
Unfortunately the Heat are $5mm away from the 2nd apron cap, so you can’t trade for Lauri unless you trade someone that makes exactly what he makes ($18,044,544). That also means You also don’t have the ability to add a bunch of contracts together to match his salary and because you’re at the apron, you also can’t trade draft picks to get him (I’m not sure you guys have much to trade as it is). I also think you guys only have two trade exceptions you can use and one of them is expiring in two days. So unless Derozen wants to come for a taxpayer MLE, it’d be hard to sign him too. Unfortunately, your guys’ cap sheet makes it somewhat unrealistic for you guys to sign or trade for either of those guys
Happy we didn’t waste all of that money to be honest
It would have been a bargain salary cap friendly contract for the HEAT to keep him, especially for a high effort player..
@@curtisfreeman4775 for what the sixers signed him to but not our offer
Thank you Caleb 👏🏼
You explored the nuances of this situation quite well my friend
GO Sixers ! Sixers are the Biggest threat to the Celtics ! They just acquired Caleb Martin ( 4 yr $32 Mil guaranteed ) who was a pain for J Brown & Tatum defensively in the playoffs .Morey & the Sixers are still considering making another move ...ie. Finney , M. Morris, KJ Martin, K. Lowery, Highsmith, Achiuwa, Etc...
Demar just signed with the kings. I guess we are running it back lol.
We need Brandon Ingram
always hurt and wants 50 mil a year. Pass
Agents can mess you up...talking big talk...they're trying to get they're money...and many times...do a disservice to there clients....The heat will be ok...but this is a lesson for players to speak for what they want...not what an agent tries to do...😮
Well said. The agent not only costed Caleb tens of millions of dollars, he lost himself a decent bag as well.
4:53 theres a difference between being an undersized power forward with embiid, pg, maxey and oubre etc. around you vs. 36 different starting lineups on a team that doesn’t take the regular season seriously and everyone else is undersized as well.
His “position” will be the same but his “role” will be completely different and a good fit for him
Just sign his brother nobody will know the difference
I wanna be mad but this is just sad news. The only winner in this deal was the Sixers :/
Sixers are weak
You're not making sense. You'd rather be closer to the 2nd apron because of a player that doesn't make a difference?
He's already been replaced
Not disappointed in this move, wishing him all the best. But for you younger players to become great they need to play. And he was going to take mins away from guys. So good luck, 4 for 32+ agent got some splaining to do.
Called it
Are we playing to win now or are we doing the Thunder thing and trying to win down the line? That is what frustrates me as a fan as they are sending mix messages. Pat says win now but the lack of moves say win down the line. I'm fine for down the line if they commit to that but they aren't committing to now or the future.
Thank god he saved the FO from themselves
Exactly. We already know what he bring to the table. We need more production
The money difference is even bigger when you factor in state income taxes.
HAHAAAA YALL MADDDDD😅😅😅
Bro left for a lower deal lol
I’ll miss him but after this season he obviously hit his ceiling we can’t keep living in the past we can get the same production from Alec Burks Fr 🤣
Thank you for your Services CALEB,
HEAT 🔥 CULTURE PRODUCT...
thanks for the cap relief
Next man up.
He not going play good there watch
Sixers stink😂😂😂😂
We only need 8 to 10 pts from him. Our top 3 players average 80+ pts. Yall needed him to outdo himself. We need his defense and 8-10pts a game
i guess like every heat fan, caleb didnt want to run it back lol
This right here🤣
Loved Caleb but Glad we did not overpay him. Hope we can keep Haywood, he had better fg% and 3pt% than Caleb and defends as well as.
Martin another Lowery 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think this is much better for Heat. Especially for Jovic and JJJ. This is a big opportunity for them.
As a Sixers fan, I'm OK with this.
Maxey
Oubre
Martin
PG
Embiid
If they can fill out the bench a bit more, I will put that starting 5 vs anyone on the East.
Honestly he was playing with the 76ers since the play I'm game if you ask me.
I think that $65 mil deal would have put Miami in the second apron. I don’t believe they offered that.
Not if he opted into his existing contract. That’s why he couldn’t comeback and accept the Heats offer - he was already a free agent and would push us into the second apron.
Their stars are hurt processs over … now they are the Philadelphia ‘ heat bench team “ Sixers … nice snoopin Morrey
SPO CAN MAKE ANOTHER CALEB!!! UNGRATEFUL UNDRAFTED PLAYERS. They owe their career to Spo and Riley!! Without the Heat they would never be in the NBA.
Smh 😢
Now they need to trade butler/herro / rozier and start this rebuild properly
Martin will be hard to replace. Saw Sixers as better chance to make run at title.
I honestly do not think the Heat actually offered that much money in the first place.
We're always bound when free agency comes. We add little to none. Undrafted and buyouts are the only option and can't keep them after 2 years. Who's getting all the money
We cant even run it back because dont have everyone back 💀
Don't blame the agent. He can't make a move without Caleb's approval. Caleb left because he knew that the signing was sign and trade to the Bulls. Riley getting cute again.
Tell that to the agent's client about the money he won't be seeing. And the offer was made last season.
That's what taking a gamble and losing looks like unfortunately.
@@pv2639I think he wanted a chance to win also, heat aren’t going anywhere next year
@@williamteadaI just wish we could also get butler back in Philly. It's not like yall will even make the play in
Damage control!?!?! How about actually doing something in free agency?
Wow, this might be one of the biggest miscalculations by an Agent ever. Although, the agents work for these players at the end of the day. Caleb clearly should have gotten a second opinion.
We offered hin 5/65M ....
😳
They offered him an above market value contract obviously. So we can't be mad with the circumstances. That gives Jaime more of an opportunity to thrive. Miami biggest problem have been health. If this team can stay healthy, they are always a problem. Move Herro back with the 2nd Unit, start Duncan, and Niko....You have a starting 5 of Terry, Duncan, Jimmy, Niko, and Bam. 2nd Unit of Herro, Love, Jaime, Richardson, Burke, Ware, Bryant, and whoever else they choose to play. Herro and Terry don't mix well together with their style of play....
Because the Heat is always offering players who are worthy, less than they deserve .. tired of this shit
Good news if you ask me. Thinking about giving that guy a 5 year deal was brutal.
Who do we have left in the talks?
Brandon Ingram
Zach Lavine
Trae Young
What we want but can't get:
Spida: Signed with garbage franchise to waste his prime years
Lauri: One word, Ainge
Demar: Likely going to the kings :(
Thats it, probably forgot more
The heat are experimenting on a bigger lineup when they picked ware and developed jokic. Jaquez is also an upgrade from Caleb. Heat wanted him to take caleb's spot if he improved. But boy he was amazing in rookie season. Let's just see how this goes fam
I smell like the Heat are up to something
Like deep down it feels like they do have something up their sleeve. But I Just don’t know what yet, if anything.
Caleb Martin IS NOT supposed to be important as a swingman when you got a 24 mill pg and 30 mill sg. That means your getting something out of caleb that your two guards ARE NOT GIVING YOU. Your two best players at 50 MIL AND 35 MILL are undersized non 3pt shooters who rely on finding offense elsewhere.
For the money your core makes, they are objectively not good enough
Maybe he wants to win a chip. The heat aren't getting any better.
Sorry azz philly ain't winning shit
@@Superstarjamarbetter chance in philly than in miami…
You crazy how many finals have philly got to in last 5 years? 0! Miami - 2 Philly - 0@@EgoEimiApologetics
More years security
I don’t have much of a problem losing him but I do fear that he’s the one that goes off against us in a playoff game
We got a different ball game now with ware
@@robinshaul4069 yeah but he’s got to learn the offense and defense and that stops spo from using him hopefully we get markkanen looks Derozan going to the kings
I’m just sad to see him go I really liked him on the team
We lost Vincent, Struss, Martin in a span of a year. Second straight L offseason
Why would any player take a five year deal right now with the new TV deal about to go in effect in the next two years.
He’ll make more money with a shorter deal.
Great pick up from my sixers man morey is cooking ain’t he 🫠😤
Hurts to lose Caleb, he was one of my favorites but its time to move on
If he went to Philly for less money and power forward is not the best way he could be utilized, what is the reason he went there? I don't know, but maybe he likes the power forward starting position. I really don't think he was trying to spite the heat and take less money. What say you?
Didnt the heat have bird rights on caleb?
From a reputable source, the Heat wanted Caleb and Co. to opt in and got a 5-year contract that would've worth north of 60 M., but Caleb and his agent thought that they would've gotten more elsewhere. The moment Caleb opted out of his contract; the Heat couldn't offer him that kind of money anymore. So, the market went dry for him. As a result, his agent had to settle for less. BRILLIANT!!!
This story doesn’t make a ton of sense. What did he think he would command on the market? Over 20 million? Is the heat office just putting it out there? Something in max strua ballpark? If it happened he needs to fire his agent. In todays cba it’s risky to wait out a deal when you are getting a good one to begin with.
Lies put out by heat front office….they lost a very good player
Let's go SIXERS. OUR SZN
are the 76ers the Heat's rival?
We’re glad you don’t like us bums, but we don’t really pay attention to the mid Miami fan base anyway. Heat Culture seems to be falling apart all of the sudden. Hopefully they aren’t turning into the new Marlins.
What’s new? that’s heat culture. They also lose gabe and max last yr. How can they sign caleb or the others when they overpaid drob and herro
CAP- CAP 😢He wanted security and to be locked 🔒 in 😮
Caleb should fire his agent cause that’s a bad move. Morey is known to be a liar so let’s see if Caleb will stay in that starting line up cause I can’t see that happening.
I’ve never said this but the Sixers are better than the Heat:
Embiid >>> >>>Bam
PG13 >Jimmy (except in the playoffs)
Maxey>>>>>>>>> Rozier
Caleb >>>>>> TBD
Oubre
Like I said before, Rats jumping ship. They know the Iceburg is coming. They dont want to go down with the ship. With the moves Heat making, I cant blame them.😮😊
this is some megacope. Nurse is one of the few coaches in the NBA that is like Spo and can get a lot of very little he's not going to Darvin Ham lol. Also he signed per AAV exactly what he made with the heat just for more years. Bad job by both Caleb's agent and the heat.
if we paid him that much i would hate pat ! cause wtf is that