What is the New Apostolic Reformation?

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  • @tulipsandhoney8187
    @tulipsandhoney8187 4 роки тому +81

    Thank you for shining a light on this dangerous movement, brother!

    • @PoliteLeader
      @PoliteLeader  4 роки тому +8

      @Tulips and Honey Hey Sis! You are very welcome and I greatly appreciate the kind words!

  • @jackjones3657
    @jackjones3657 4 роки тому +31

    Doreen Virtue and her friend Melissa have done some great in depth videos covering NAR beliefs and methods of control and outright unbiblical teachings. Not studying our bibles has dire consequences.

  • @susanvandermerwe4679
    @susanvandermerwe4679 4 роки тому +25

    Appreciate you drawing attention to this movement. I live in South Africa and my church appears to be affiliated with it. It has disturbed me for sometime because the teaching for the most part is sound and yet there is something (I sense) not right and the worship music choices at times, are very man centred. So learning more about it will be very helpful. Thank you.

  • @mary-janechambers3596
    @mary-janechambers3596 4 роки тому +53

    So the Lord Jesus has to wait for the NAR to get the “mountains” in order before he returns? He’ll be waiting a very long time.

    • @andrewjohnson577
      @andrewjohnson577 4 роки тому +2

      Mary-Jane Chambers Get out your Bibles and read this it will be a great message to all that receive it. Please read this in the order as it was set upon me by the Holy Spirit for none of it is by my doing but the will of God do not thank the servant for doing his masters will I am already blessed to be a tool of the most high king the living God I am blessed to be a servant of the most loving merciful perfect in all way king of kings the Lord all Mighty Jesus Christ an of the Holy Spirit glory to God praise and praise the son of God Jesus Christ God bless you all. Enjoy gods word.Ecclesiastes 8:5-8/ Philippians 2:13-15/ John 8:11/ Matthew 3:10-17/4:1-11/5:1-20/ 5:33-37/5:45/6:5-15/6:19-34/ 7:1-6/7:13-27/7:18-22/9:4/10:17-4/11:25-30/12:11/12:23-37/13:24-30 /13:36-43/15:11-19/16:1-4/16:24-28 /18:15-20/19:16-30/20:1-16/20:23- 28/21:18-22/21:28-44/22:2-14/22:19-21/22:37-40/22:42-45/23:1-39/ 24:3-31/24:36-51/25:1-13/25:31-46 /26:10-13/ Mark 4:2-20/4:21-32/6:4 /6:8-11/7:6-23/ 9:35/9:37/9:42-50/10:38-39/10:42-45/11:17/(12:38-40)/13:5-37/ Luke 4:18-19/ Mark 10:39/ Luke 4:23-27/ 12:49-53/13:2-9/13:24-30/13:32-35/(14:26-35)/16:1-15/17:1-10/19:9- 10/19:12-27/John 3:3/3:5-8/3:11-21/4:36-38/5:19-30/ 5:34-47/6:35-40/6:44-58/7:16-18/8:42-47/8:50-51/8:55/10:1-5/10:9-18/12:44-50/15:1-17/15:18-27/16:1- 16/17:1-26/ Romans 12:1-21/ Galatians 2:17-21/ Ephesians 6:10-20/ Acts 1:8/2:17-22/ Please read this in the order the Holy Spirit has given it on to me to send to you Glory is Gods praise Jesus Christ I am thankful to be his tool to do his will nothing I do am I to be thanked for for I am just a servant of the most high king only doing as I am told in the name of Jesus Christ... Spread this message given onto me I give onto you.

    • @mimigutierrez4327
      @mimigutierrez4327 4 роки тому +3

      Amen to that!

    • @sharoncrawford3042
      @sharoncrawford3042 4 роки тому +7

      Basically they clean up society and take over the 7 mountains, then Jesus comes to reign over the earth. It called dominion theology. I am pentecostal, but I dont believe anything the NAR teaches.

    • @paulryan5984
      @paulryan5984 4 роки тому +4

      Mary-Jane Chambers
      ; It is not exactly like that. The idea of NAR is that Jesus never comes back but that NAR becomes the official One World Religion under the authority of the anti-Christ.

    • @jeovannyfernandez4680
      @jeovannyfernandez4680 3 роки тому +1

      The seven mountains are the seven hills that surrounds the city of Rome, where the City of Vatican is at. If they preach that they need to take over the 7 mountains, then what they are moving is for a one world religion, meaning that many but not all Evangelicals, Roman Catholics, Muslims, Many Jews but not all, Buddhists, Hindus, Confucians, and other religions will unite under the Papacy to embrace a new Catholicism to "make" the world better for God. This will then bring the Anti Christ come to earth. The Anti Christ will be Satan disguised as Jesus. Many will wonder after him and yell "Christ has come! Christ has come!" But Jesus said clearly to his disciples "Many will say, Look here is the Christ or there He is! Do not believe it, for false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles and deceive even the elect if that is possible" Matthew 24:23. This one world religion won't last long, because then the plagues will fall on the earth and punish and affect those who chose to follow the One World Religion beast system. The true believers already had fled the cities and are hiding in the mountains, where God's angels are protecting them and providing them with food and drink, while the wicked perish of hunger and thirst and suffer the plagues as well. Then when all world leaders put a death decree on the true Christians who refused to join the One World Church and all the wicked run out to seek and kill God's people, that's when Jesus will return to earth with his heavenly angels to save His people and resurrect all those who died in Christ. The wicked will see Him come back to earth and will wail and shout to the rocks "Fall on us hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the lamb." Then the wicked will die at the glory of Jesus with His angels, but the righteous will be lifted up to be with the Lord and dwell in Heaven.

  • @LillyMarz777
    @LillyMarz777 4 роки тому +66

    A kind neighbor invited me to his Assembly of God church. I went 4 weeks in a row, then I had to tell him it wasn't for me. They would randomly babble and it freaked me out. I said they don't even follow their own rules and doing what they did to a newcomer was strange. I'm just a Bible believer trying to understand the Word.

    • @tonybasoni8443
      @tonybasoni8443 4 роки тому +3

      Lilly, if you want to understand anything about the Bible, do not go to a church. There is no Biblical truth in any church. Learning Biblical truth only comes from reading the Bible yourself. Stay as far away from the church as you can, they will only lead you astray.

    • @tonybasoni8443
      @tonybasoni8443 4 роки тому +1

      @@matasaina2011 ,....Move in the gifts?

    • @tonybasoni8443
      @tonybasoni8443 4 роки тому +4

      @Mark OnTheBlueRidge ,....The fake gift of tongues does not exist, except in the minds and mouths of the deceived.

    • @tonybasoni8443
      @tonybasoni8443 4 роки тому +2

      @@matasaina2011 ,....There is no such thing. Those that believe that nonsense are completely outside of the kingdom of God. They are inside the kingdom of the lost, deceived unsaved world.

    • @andrewjohnson577
      @andrewjohnson577 4 роки тому

      Tony Basoni Get out your Bibles and read this it will be a great message to all that receive it. Please read this in the order as it was set upon me by the Holy Spirit for none of it is by my doing but the will of God do not thank the servant for doing his masters will I am already blessed to be a tool of the most high king the living God I am blessed to be a servant of the most loving merciful perfect in all way king of kings the Lord all Mighty Jesus Christ an of the Holy Spirit glory to God praise and praise the son of God Jesus Christ God bless you all. Enjoy gods word.Ecclesiastes 8:5-8/ Philippians 2:13-15/ John 8:11/ Matthew 3:10-17/4:1-11/5:1-20/ 5:33-37/5:45/6:5-15/6:19-34/ 7:1-6/7:13-27/7:18-22/9:4/10:17-4/11:25-30/12:11/12:23-37/13:24-30 /13:36-43/15:11-19/16:1-4/16:24-28 /18:15-20/19:16-30/20:1-16/20:23- 28/21:18-22/21:28-44/22:2-14/22:19-21/22:37-40/22:42-45/23:1-39/ 24:3-31/24:36-51/25:1-13/25:31-46 /26:10-13/ Mark 4:2-20/4:21-32/6:4 /6:8-11/7:6-23/ 9:35/9:37/9:42-50/10:38-39/10:42-45/11:17/(12:38-40)/13:5-37/ Luke 4:18-19/ Mark 10:39/ Luke 4:23-27/ 12:49-53/13:2-9/13:24-30/13:32-35/(14:26-35)/16:1-15/17:1-10/19:9- 10/19:12-27/John 3:3/3:5-8/3:11-21/4:36-38/5:19-30/ 5:34-47/6:35-40/6:44-58/7:16-18/8:42-47/8:50-51/8:55/10:1-5/10:9-18/12:44-50/15:1-17/15:18-27/16:1- 16/17:1-26/ Romans 12:1-21/ Galatians 2:17-21/ Ephesians 6:10-20/ Acts 1:8/2:17-22/ Please read this in the order the Holy Spirit has given it on to me to send to you Glory is Gods praise Jesus Christ I am thankful to be his tool to do his will nothing I do am I to be thanked for for I am just a servant of the most high king only doing as I am told in the name of Jesus Christ... Spread this message given onto me I give onto you.

  • @josephstarns4609
    @josephstarns4609 4 роки тому +27

    Thanks for making this video. Clearly this is one of the most dangerous movements that we have seen in sometime.

  • @LishSnead
    @LishSnead 3 роки тому +9

    The NAR, charismatic and prosperity movements having been picking up steam and I mourn for the souls lost. I am so terrified another infamous occult is going to emerge soon. 😔

  • @amandaamputationjourney
    @amandaamputationjourney 4 роки тому +21

    Perfect timing, I've been looking into NAR "theology". Although I knew they were heretics, I didn't know enough to explain why to anyone else. Glad to have a resource now for myself and to direct others to. Thanks again, job most excellently done as always!

  • @rickkelly4111
    @rickkelly4111 4 роки тому +21

    Very timely and important. Particularly looking forward to your analysis about some of the false prophecies the NAR people make. It seems none of them saw covid19 coming. (although 1 or 2 claimed they did but without proof) And they are prophets? How could a prophet of God (so called) miss that? (Of course they are not true prophets!) Nice introduction.

  • @ChristopherDolby
    @ChristopherDolby 4 роки тому +36

    This is absolute *fire* ! Cool, calm and unswerving as always! This really encourages me! 👊😇🔥🔥🔥

    • @andrewjohnson577
      @andrewjohnson577 4 роки тому

      Not Your Typical Christian ChannelGet out your Bibles and read this it will be a great message to all that receive it. Please read this in the order as it was set upon me by the Holy Spirit for none of it is by my doing but the will of God do not thank the servant for doing his masters will I am already blessed to be a tool of the most high king the living God I am blessed to be a servant of the most loving merciful perfect in all way king of kings the Lord all Mighty Jesus Christ an of the Holy Spirit glory to God praise and praise the son of God Jesus Christ God bless you all. Enjoy gods word.Ecclesiastes 8:5-8/ Philippians 2:13-15/ John 8:11/ Matthew 3:10-17/4:1-11/5:1-20/ 5:33-37/5:45/6:5-15/6:19-34/ 7:1-6/7:13-27/7:18-22/9:4/10:17-4/11:25-30/12:11/12:23-37/13:24-30 /13:36-43/15:11-19/16:1-4/16:24-28 /18:15-20/19:16-30/20:1-16/20:23- 28/21:18-22/21:28-44/22:2-14/22:19-21/22:37-40/22:42-45/23:1-39/ 24:3-31/24:36-51/25:1-13/25:31-46 /26:10-13/ Mark 4:2-20/4:21-32/6:4 /6:8-11/7:6-23/ 9:35/9:37/9:42-50/10:38-39/10:42-45/11:17/(12:38-40)/13:5-37/ Luke 4:18-19/ Mark 10:39/ Luke 4:23-27/ 12:49-53/13:2-9/13:24-30/13:32-35/(14:26-35)/16:1-15/17:1-10/19:9- 10/19:12-27/John 3:3/3:5-8/3:11-21/4:36-38/5:19-30/ 5:34-47/6:35-40/6:44-58/7:16-18/8:42-47/8:50-51/8:55/10:1-5/10:9-18/12:44-50/15:1-17/15:18-27/16:1- 16/17:1-26/ Romans 12:1-21/ Galatians 2:17-21/ Ephesians 6:10-20/ Acts 1:8/2:17-22/ Please read this in the order the Holy Spirit has given it on to me to send to you Glory is Gods praise Jesus Christ I am thankful to be his tool to do his will nothing I do am I to be thanked for for I am just a servant of the most high king only doing as I am told in the name of Jesus Christ... Spread this message given onto me I give onto you.

    • @ChristopherDolby
      @ChristopherDolby 4 роки тому +3

      Dman ...I didn’t get that from this video. It was very engaging and interesting tho. The 7 mountains thing was fascinating- sounds like “adding into the closed canon” to me which would make the NAR a cult by biblical definition...

  • @KroMagnum4
    @KroMagnum4 4 роки тому +42

    I wonder why so many prophets missed the onslaught of covid?

    • @matthew29renee07
      @matthew29renee07 4 роки тому +15

      Because they do not really hear from God maybe? They miss a lot more than that but COVID19 has been one of the more biggest things to happen in recent times and they all didn't "get a word" from the Lord regarding it. To the contrary, they got "words" of increase and blessing during 2020. Some predicted packed stadiums and outpouring and harvest.

    • @KroMagnum4
      @KroMagnum4 4 роки тому +9

      @@matthew29renee07 Yes it's amazing how they missed this one. I remember all the prophetic apostles from my church from past year. With the increase and harvest spew. For myself I'm retired so this has had little real effect on me. But a lot of my friends and family are really struggling. So much for increase on that one. It's a wonder how people still believe with these fake among us.

    • @KroMagnum4
      @KroMagnum4 4 роки тому +6

      @Mark OnTheBlueRidge Well when Texas opens up a bit more and Covid goes bye bye I will honestly be looking for another one. And had been hunting around virtually. But whenever I hear pie from the sky sermons if only up you plant a little more seed. My soul cringes. I think my discernment is kicking in😁

    • @ashqelon7267
      @ashqelon7267 4 роки тому +1

      Lol,

    • @kevindavis4709
      @kevindavis4709 3 роки тому +4

      Matthew 24 tells us you will see things like this take place but it don't tell you exactly what it is. If these people were truly hearing from God they would tell you heads up.

  • @Kerosenetrewthe
    @Kerosenetrewthe 4 роки тому +20

    Excellent summary of the NAR, Alan. Thanks and God bless.

  • @kevinevans8892
    @kevinevans8892 4 роки тому +30

    I have argued with fellow Charismatics that there are no living apostles today.

    • @kevinevans8892
      @kevinevans8892 4 роки тому +4

      The apostles has roving ministries. They traveled Palestine and the Roman Empire establishing churches. The persons I know who claim to be apostles are stationed at one church. The overwhelming majority of them don't even do missions. But yet they are apostles, according to them.

    • @kevinevans8892
      @kevinevans8892 4 роки тому +1

      Had I meant to say

    • @kevinevans8892
      @kevinevans8892 4 роки тому +1

      Look at my second comment. I agree

    • @241Tsunami
      @241Tsunami 4 роки тому +4

      The tactic that the devil uses is intrigue . If he can get curiosity flowing and keep feeding small tidbits of small supernatural activity and mimic biblical themes then he can gather a following . Not all Christians are wise and many are naive and have been taught by men . When people stop reading the bible they cease to develop the connection to the Holy Spirit and this can happen to a greater level when they are seeking signs. There is nothing wrong with the works of the Holy Spirit as this is the hand of God working you perform His will in the earth through His children . The works of the Holy Spirit don’t include writing books based on experiences and suggestions , it does not include grave sucking or trying to derive the annointing through “holy” laughter or jerking movements and acting drunk . Many cults mimic bible talk and bible words and in fact the Antichrist has this copyrighted such that he operates in every act that mimics the confusing and archaic experience theology . The communion of the Saints becomes a party of jerking signs and wonders as if that’s refreshing . What it really is is the operation of rabbit hole that keeps going down further and further ........ it’s Lucifer mimicking biblical themed talk but with the over exaggeration of a boastful proud fool .
      The sheer lack of biblical unity in their meetings and the sheer exaggeration of signs as if the keys to truth are hidden with chaos .
      Not being able to talk and rolling on the floor and preaching money blessings and please give to the seed planting machine is all a bunch of “hocus pocus try not to focus” theology .
      Satan has done this with the many cults that he runs and many churches themselves have also been given over to controlling spirits that deny Christ as His word declares .
      True biblical warfare against the devil has been forgotten by many churches and confronting the devil is considered scary . If anyone truly and honestly spent time reading the bible without commentary and without reading other books and simply asked God to guide them they would learn far more than most professors could explain .
      It’s the distasteful residue of nonsense Christianity that has driven many to seek truth and yet how can you seek that which you have not been taught of ? How can you seek God when you were lies to about who God was or what He does or how He operates .
      In the stillness of contentment with the God of the Holy Bible we find rest and that rest also encourages us with great strength to proclaim the truth and to seek the lost .
      In these end times it has been increasingly difficult to sift through the “fake news” of all the churches who postulate and speculate on matters as if in authority . There is only one authority and that being Christ and His church . That church can and will cast out devils and can and will proclaim the truth through scripture given as prophecy as rebuke and as a guidebook to moral and Holy living never once forgetting that God saved us while we were yet sinners . The grace of God has been played with such that man now is deciding how God works and teaching manmade doctrines from the “pit “in the colleges and theological schools .
      In context and in harmony and unity the truth of scripture resides in the written word and the manifestations of Holiness that come through the working of the Holy Spirit in ones life .
      This chasing after experience is exactly why Paul wrote to “put no confidence in the flesh “ , that’s because nothing good dwells in the flesh and be obeying those demons the mind is given over to a reprobate thinking . To be transformed is to know the word of God and to apply it . We all need to be rebuked for matters of the flesh including the inability to care for others and the lack of concern for the lost . Unless one be manifesting the true joy of salvation and the works of the Spirit manifesting praise and thanksgiving up to God then they apart from God cannot perform anything good . Those are the deeds of the flesh that have an appearance of godliness but they deny the power . Misinterpretation and pyramid scheme theology is the root of satanism and the root of the antichrist power that resides in many churches .
      In revelations we read of many rebukes and one that stands out “ I have this against you , that you tolerate Jezebel “
      We must clean up by being washed in the word and not looking to the left or the right but by staying transfixed on Christ and His finished work. Those finished acts enable one to preach the gospel , heal the sick and cast out demons . If someone can’t tolerate that for whatever reason then they have placed their Hope in the antichrist movement. The many “Christ’s “ we are warned about and many will say “ Lo here he is “ or there he is “ , if it’s not the one and only written word once delivered to the saints then it’s Satan . Anyone who has read Genesis knows how Satan works and anyone who has studied the Gospel knows how Jesus Christ works . Jesus said “greater than these will ye do “ , this is not a licence to manipulate or fabricate but rather an empowering to walk with Christ hand in hand and to see the mighty works of God comes about through faith . The confusing language of the cults must be erased and exposed for destruction ✝️

    • @dieselcowboy777
      @dieselcowboy777 4 роки тому

      And you are not qualified to say anything because you are a liar

  • @ExposingBethel
    @ExposingBethel 4 роки тому +3

    NAR is the FreeMasonic/Christianity.

  • @MrNazarester
    @MrNazarester 4 роки тому +7

    Fallen human beings are complicated, ( in their thinking) about a thrice HOLY God. Umteen theologies, vain thoughts and denominations but it comes down to " simple and pure obedience to Christ" - childlike faith and sincere obedience upon ( and of) the RESURECTED Saviour YESHUA Lord.
    Is all that matters.

  • @DecimusStark
    @DecimusStark 4 роки тому +13

    I.H.O.P, International house of prayer 😂😂😂. Im probably going to be the only one laughing at this but this got me rolling for a straight minute.

    • @Grace-nt9cc
      @Grace-nt9cc 4 роки тому +6

      When I first heard this it is funny how I could only think international house of pancakes!!! 😂

    • @WasLostButNowAmFound
      @WasLostButNowAmFound 4 роки тому +4

      Mmm pancakes.

    • @josephdoby6411
      @josephdoby6411 4 роки тому +2

      IHOP=International House of 🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞 Pancakes, period.

    • @josephdoby6411
      @josephdoby6411 4 роки тому +2

      @Mark OnTheBlueRidge I am pretty sure they only come over easy or scrambled.🤪🙊🙈🙉

    • @rickkelly4111
      @rickkelly4111 4 роки тому +1

      Prayer and pancakes. That's the church for me. IHOP is a major NAR center

  • @l3on3w
    @l3on3w 4 роки тому +5

    Thanks for doing this. The Charismatic church is the bedrock of all kinds of heresy.

  • @disenchanted8470
    @disenchanted8470 4 роки тому +9

    I am glad to have this series, and I pray that it bears good fruit. God bless

  • @tonybatista1928
    @tonybatista1928 4 роки тому +7

    Seven mountains. ..sounds like to me an occultic reference

    • @jeovannyfernandez4680
      @jeovannyfernandez4680 3 роки тому

      The seven mountains are the seven hills that surrounds the city of Rome, where the City of Vatican is at. If they preach that they need to take over the 7 mountains, then what they are moving is for a one world religion, meaning that many but not all Evangelicals, Roman Catholics, Muslims, Many Jews but not all, Buddhists, Hindus, Confucians, and other religions will unite under the Papacy to embrace a new Catholicism to "make" the world better for God. This will then bring the Anti Christ come to earth. The Anti Christ will be Satan disguised as Jesus. Many will wonder after him and yell "Christ has come! Christ has come!" But Jesus said clearly to his disciples "Many will say, Look here is the Christ or there He is! Do not believe it, for false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles and deceive even the elect if that is possible" Matthew 24:23. This one world religion won't last long, because then the plagues will fall on the earth and punish and affect those who chose to follow the One World Religion beast system. The true believers already had fled the cities and are hiding in the mountains, where God's angels are protecting them and providing them with food and drink, while the wicked perish of hunger and thirst and suffer the plagues as well. Then when all world leaders put a death decree on the true Christians who refused to join the One World Church and all the wicked run out to seek and kill God's people, that's when Jesus will return to earth with his heavenly angels to save His people and resurrect all those who died in Christ. The wicked will see Him come back to earth and will wail and shout to the rocks "Fall on us hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the lamb." Then the wicked will die at the glory of Jesus with His angels, but the righteous will be lifted up to be with the Lord and dwell in Heaven.

  • @timothyjones9843
    @timothyjones9843 4 роки тому +15

    I heard a so called church leader once say she'd among other offices served in the apostle. I found that statement to be disturbing.

    • @timothyjones9843
      @timothyjones9843 4 роки тому +2

      It did I almost went down some very dangerous paths I quit attending their services eventually.

    • @Baba_Wawa
      @Baba_Wawa 4 роки тому +4

      When I was part of the NAR movement I had several ‘prophecies’ spoken over me. I was even ‘anointed’ by Bob Jones & was ordained as a minister. (As a female I know now that is not in God’s order) I was raised in it & from an early age there were many things that disturbed me. I was supposed to be preaching & teaching but inside of me there was a private war waging & it led to me having a falling away. I didn’t fall down twitching when prayed over; I could never pray in tongues but everyone else around me could. So many times they tried to teach me how & I saw the look of confusion & disappointment when it never happened. I believed that there was something wicked or wrong with me or that I had done something so vile that God wanted nothing to do with me. It was tormenting & I was scared to fall asleep & would end up weeping until I was exhausted & passing out. I was terrified I may die in my sleep & go to hell. I would fervently plead with God to help me. I didn’t understand why he was speaking so freely to everyone else but I never heard Him. I was molested as a child & I thought that had something to do with it. I felt impure, tainted, like I was evil & that’s why it happened. I felt it was my fault. I was to afraid to tell anyone my secrets & that I was this awful monster. I silently suffered & as a teen I fell away & made so many mistakes. I always believed in God but I just quit seeking Him. I may have given up but praise God, He didn’t. I had children & I wanted them to know & love God. I had to find out what was wrong with me first or else I’d be a hypocrite & leave them feeling as I had. While researching I stumbled on to the teachings of Chuck Missler, Justin Peters, & John MacArthur. It was seriously like the weight of the world had be lifted off of me. I felt something I never had before, a comfort, peace, love, relief, understanding, & a renewed zeal for the Word & love of Christ. My family are still in the sect/cult/NAR. I’ve tried to speak with them but they don’t want to hear it. They think I have militant, fringe views & it’s so sad. It’s hard to believe some times we are even reading the same Bible. I said all that to say this... this is an extremely dangerous movement. I’ve seen it push more people away from God than to Him. I have always loved God from the earliest age I can remember & this movement robbed me of that & very nearly destroyed me. It effected my sanity, physically my health suffered from the torment & stress, spiritually I was devastated. It frightens me to think how many people have been in my shoes & possibly turn away from God due to these false teachings, these preying not praying wolves. If you are I’m here for you & would love to pray with you & speak to you about coming out!

    • @sharoncrawford3042
      @sharoncrawford3042 4 роки тому +2

      No women apostles in the Bible. But there are prophetesses

    • @IndianaJonesTDH
      @IndianaJonesTDH 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Baba_Wawa
      Poor creature I send my deepest sorrows and best of wishes to you.
      You can go to a priest at a local parish. It can help with internal healing and guidance
      I myself am catholic but its up to you.
      But again I hope your doing better these days.

    • @Baba_Wawa
      @Baba_Wawa 3 місяці тому +1

      @@IndianaJonesTDH thank you so much for your kindness & advice. It’s sincerely appreciated. 💜

  • @Grace-nt9cc
    @Grace-nt9cc 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you beloved brother 🤗🙏✝️❤️🕊️🌹 It is great video!!! 😌 It is gonna take time for me to understand this better! 🙏🏽✝️❤️ I know it is truth from God's Word. There are no more apostles. To me it's a blessing just to be adopted by the King! 😌🙌🏻🙌🏽🙌🏻🙏🏽✝️❤️

    • @PoliteLeader
      @PoliteLeader  4 роки тому +2

      You are welcome, dearest beloved sister.

  • @magmom312
    @magmom312 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you. We live near Redding (Bethel). 💕

  • @michaelnapper4565
    @michaelnapper4565 4 роки тому +6

    @PL....Well this is cool. Just this week i was wondering how to reconcile there being 12 apostles, yet there clearly being 13. Funny how the Lord brings knowledge to His children. I would have never suspected that you would bring me this revelation, given the title of the video i clicked on. Thanks brother! God bless you and your family!!

    • @carolberubee
      @carolberubee 4 роки тому +1

      Haha. Yeah, I found that interesting, too. But Joseph being split into Ephraim and Manasseh is NOT the same as Judas being split into Matthias and Paul (!). I would rather stick with the fact that the Twelve were sent only to Israel while Paul was sent to the Gentiles (as well as Jews in the Diaspora). Galatians 2. Paul is the outlier because he was operating according to the mystery (Romans 16:25), while the Twelve were proclaiming only the fulfillment of OT prophecy.

    • @michaelnapper4565
      @michaelnapper4565 4 роки тому +1

      @@carolberubee thanks. I think your reasoning has solid sense.

    • @carolberubee
      @carolberubee 4 роки тому

      @Mark OnTheBlueRidge Hi! Well, I've written a 250 page book explaining why Paul was, purposely, not of the Twelve and should not be considered the "rightful" twelfth apostle. There are several reasons why the choice of Matthias was legitimate and proper, and why Paul did not belong with the Eleven.

  • @Caleb_son_of_God
    @Caleb_son_of_God 4 роки тому +5

    I’m so glad you made this video Alan, I’ve been confused about the nar, excellent video my friend.

  • @carolberubee
    @carolberubee 4 роки тому +5

    Fantastic! I find it interesting that it was Bill Bright (Campus Crusade) and Loren Cunningham (YWAM) who, back in the 1970s, said that they each independently had a "message" or "vision" from God about "seven spheres" or "mountains" that needed to be won for Christ before His return.

  • @africanwidow
    @africanwidow 4 роки тому +5

    "What's Happening Polite Leader" : ) Just wanted to reiterate that this is such an important topic. And that you are doing 12 Saturdays on it states as much. Soooo see you on the next one soon and hope you have a good week! Blessings! Rick

  • @countrydarlin8212
    @countrydarlin8212 4 роки тому +3

    Good video. Always enjoy watching you, because you are very knowledgeable and break things down extremely well.
    Btw, if the NAR folks can heal people, I've got a list of folks who need their help. Myself included 🙂 But they're probably too busy emptying the hospitals to bother with us.

  • @jaw1970
    @jaw1970 4 роки тому +12

    I’m new to your channel but I do love your direct approach when you are asked is there any new apostles I knew the answer how anyone could not know that Answer is unbelievable for nearly 2000 years there hasn’t been a new apostle and if anyone calls himself a Christian and claims to be an apostle he’s an abomination to God. As I said I like your direct approach and your direct answers so that we who are still baby Christians can’t understand a clear cut argument and directions. Looking forward to your next video. I’m always very very cautious about who I watch and who I listen to because The enemy twists truth with lies and that’s how we can be deceived. Thank you

    • @jaw1970
      @jaw1970 4 роки тому +2

      Dman The pope has not been chosen by God or Jesus Christ he has not seen them and it’s a false idol. Most Catholics do not realize they are being deceived on a maximum level to pray to Mary is to have an idol the pope has no authority given to him by God or the son in fact The pope in the Catholic Church are more aligned to Satanism pedophilia and all manner of sick rituals. The pope is not a successor of Peter this is false doctrine how anyone can look upon the pope and what surrounds him and not see the unclean imagery of signs and symbols. I’ve seen pictures of the pope doing the devil horns which is a red flag I’ve seen the pope try to gather all religions as one as though we are going to sit by a campfire and sing Kumbaya if Jesus was to step on this earth today I wonder what he would have to say to this so-called man The pope. Remember God is no respect are of persons the Catholic Church is a false religion. This is why or one of the reasons why the protestant Martin Luther nailed it to the door.

    • @ngdavid3925
      @ngdavid3925 4 роки тому +1

      @@dman7668
      What a jumbled up mess of nonsensical rhetoric coming from you.
      JESUS has only ONE FAMILY which HE called CHURCH, and HE is the BUILDER. Matt.16:18 Eph.3:13-15 Heb.3:3-6
      The FAMILY of JESUS is called by HIS NAME, so it is neither Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant. The members of HIS FAMILY are qualified by HIS own terms and conditions. Gal.5:24-25
      'And they that are CHRIST's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If WE live in the SPIRIT, let us also walk in the SPIRIT.'
      It is a complete waste of time using carnal knowledge to try to promote a spiritual thing. Apparent Truth is not the TRUTH of GOD, but JESUS is the TRUTH. HE came to bear witness to the TRUTH in the SPIRIT. Jn.18:37 ; 6:63 ; 3:31-35
      The HOUSE of GOD is the HOUSE of LIGHT. A son of GOD is a son of LIGHT. Matt.5:14-16 ; Phil.2:15
      GOD is looking at every church in the spirit, and only the churches that are shining brightly, are the partakers of the FAMILY of GOD.

    • @ngdavid3925
      @ngdavid3925 4 роки тому +1

      @@dman7668
      I am not illiterate, to the extend that you say 'Peter' means 'rock' to hoodwink me. 'Petros' means 'stone' but 'Petra' means 'bed rock'. How do you build on a 'stone'?
      Your arguments are still in the flesh. JESUS said, 'What is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the SPIRIT is SPIRIT.'
      Certainly, a carnal mind like yours cannot discern spiritual matters. 1Cor.2:14-15
      No one is born again by the laying on of the hands of Bishops, only by the laying on of the hands of the apostles and when the Holy SPIRIT comes upon them without the laying of hands. Act.8:16-17 ; 10:44-45
      Your theology is carnal which means they are the teachings of men.

    • @ngdavid3925
      @ngdavid3925 4 роки тому +1

      @@dman7668
      Your position that 'Peter' is that 'Rock' is heresy. The bible is clear as crystal that the 'Rock' is CHRIST. 1Cor.10:4 ; 3:10-11 Paul said, there is no other foundation or bedrock other than JESUS CHRIST. To teach contrary to this is plain heresy.

    • @ngdavid3925
      @ngdavid3925 4 роки тому

      @@dman7668
      You are going outside of the point of issue. Eph.2:20 did not mention Peter, but JESUS CHRIST as the chief cornerstone from whom all the measurements are made. If you are right, then Peter ought to be mentioned as the chief cornerstone. 1Cor.3:10-11 Paul made it crystal clear that no other foundation may be laid, except the TESTIMONY, that JESUS is the CHRIST, the SON of the Living GOD. Matt.16:15-16 Rev.19:10 That was exactly the same witness that Peter received from the FATHER. The foundation is not Peter but the TESTIMONY of JESUS. Matt.7:24
      What TESTIMONY did the apostles testify?
      1Jn.5:1-5, 6-9
      Paul was saying that the Church is built upon the TESTIMONY (Apostles) and MYSTERY (Prophets) of JESUS CHRIST.
      Where in the New Testament did it state that Peter was representing CHRIST? The word 'shepherds' means the same as 'presbyters', 'bishops', 'elders', and 'pastors'. Peter himself said that JESUS is the chief Shepherd which Paul also concurred. 1Pet.5:4 Heb.13:20 Can you show any verse that says JESUS relinquished HIS position as chief Shepherd to Peter?
      You are making so many presumptions and not based DOCTRINE on the WORDS of JESUS. 1Tim.6:3-5 The Papacy is not ordained by JESUS CHRIST, but by men. Paul wrote that the Head of CHRIST is GOD, and the Head of every man is CHRIST. 1Cor.11:3 Yet you choose to go against the WRITTEN WORD and propagate the false doctrine of the papacy.

  • @dieselcowboy777
    @dieselcowboy777 4 роки тому +1

    And God didn't recognize the apostles vote for matthias....God chose paul to be the 12 apostle....
    Paul is not a 13 apostle and he is not the last apostle....that is your lying interpretation

  • @kevindavis4709
    @kevindavis4709 3 роки тому +1

    This is why you should read your Bibles. Because not everybody that's behind the pulpit is of God.

  • @trueblue72-ul6lo
    @trueblue72-ul6lo 4 роки тому +1

    The only thing I dont understand, perhaps someone can enlighten me if apostles and prophets are not functioning anymore how come pastors, evangelists and teachers still are? Genuinely asking

  • @SojournerDidimus
    @SojournerDidimus 4 роки тому +1

    Are there no more apostles? You say no, but that strongly depends on your understanding of the word apostle. You quoted 1 Corinthians 15:8, let me point you one verse earlier: After that, he was seen of James; then of all the *apostles.*
    Paul writes that after the twelve, then 500, then James and then all the apostles. Clearly there are more apostles than the twelve and Paul.

  • @vanessaloy1049
    @vanessaloy1049 4 роки тому +1

    PL interviews a female teacher - Doreen Virtue - and then says in another video that women can’t teach.

  • @freedomhawk772
    @freedomhawk772 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you. This one of several topics that many churches don't preach about or discuss. Many small groups don't address this either. Before the internet and social media, I looked for supplemental spiritual information at libraries and bookstores.

  • @janeteaton3240
    @janeteaton3240 4 роки тому +1

    Todd Bentley was a big disaster that these alleged apostles and prophets supported .

  • @dotero1817
    @dotero1817 4 роки тому +1

    Would Nicky Gumbel and Holy Trinity Brompton be considered NAR?

  • @dougwebster1813
    @dougwebster1813 4 роки тому +4

    Eph.4:11-13 "And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ." Does an evangelist have the same anointing as a pastor, no. Does a pastor have the same anointing as a prophet, no. Only Christ carried all 5 anointings. Each of these ministries is needed to equip the saints for their work of ministry. A pastor cannot equip with the same anointing, to train the local body as an evangelist can. Verse 13 tells us how long each of these ministries will be needed. Till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. The reason 1700 pastors quit the ministry each month is that they are trying to do the work of 5 different ministries and they are overwhelmed. As these ministries submit to one another understanding each other's giftings, the local body will be built up and edified to the glory of the One that said, I will build My church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it!

    • @dougwebster1813
      @dougwebster1813 4 роки тому

      American Churches, This is Church Government as Jesus intended it to be!

  • @michaelguerin4618
    @michaelguerin4618 2 роки тому +1

    Your right about all these false apostles but your wrong on there never being another one
    John Tow Ten !

  • @hectoronatejr.9041
    @hectoronatejr.9041 4 роки тому +3

    Hola Allen! Just a suggestion would you a video on C.S. Lewis or his works? So whenever you have time just something to keep in mind. Gracias

  • @JishwaSZN
    @JishwaSZN 4 роки тому +4

    Can you react to, “Atheists and Christians debate truth and belief” by Jubilee. I would love to hear what you have to say about their responses.

  • @214BIgl
    @214BIgl 4 роки тому +3

    great content as always!
    some feedback, please brighten up yourself, another light on your right side will help, its in the shadows.

  • @kendraborczuch-kitts8935
    @kendraborczuch-kitts8935 4 роки тому +2

    Doesn’t this create a codependency on Man instead of the word of God? Similar to the Catholic priests, no? Thanks Alan, I’m so excited to hear what you bring in this upcoming series, God willing:)God bless you 🙏❤️🙏

    • @ashqelon7267
      @ashqelon7267 4 роки тому +1

      Actually what you're realizing that literally all churchianity pulpit teaching, is nothing more than hypnotism mind control manipulation. activity in the background like Alex Jones. Split your mind out and destroy your focus. So they could supplant their lies. And wicked philosophies. TBN CNN 700club, those filthy witches led the way in manipulating people's minds .
      The television set did USA under.
      and now they've mastered it in the pulpit and on UA-cam.

  • @corydavey5169
    @corydavey5169 4 роки тому +10

    I was just reading a book by John MacArthur called “Strange Fire” that talked about this. Such a great book. Good job btw explaining this. God bless you.

    • @ashqelon7267
      @ashqelon7267 4 роки тому +4

      Lol,
      Uuhhmm,
      John MacArthur is right in the middle of all these guys.
      along with Paul washer Ray comfort Sproul,
      Piper , ankoeberg,
      young-,
      chan,
      Meyers, Roseabough, ALL of them are,
      apply their own perverted twist a little different.
      They're all speaking the same manicheism theology, along with the Westminster confession of 1639, and the TULIP DOCTRINE SET.. again none of them all right. They're all very closely related and intertwined with each other.
      They all support each other. yes they absolutely do and it's been well proven they do.
      They're all filthy.

  • @jaycrapes1603
    @jaycrapes1603 4 роки тому +2

    Early 2011, maybe 2011, when I was beginning to learn about Christian doctrine I came across a book on NAR about spiritual warfare. I made it through the first chapter and had such Holy Spirit conviction that I got rid of the book. I believe it was authored by Wagner but not sure honestly.

  • @PETERJOHN101
    @PETERJOHN101 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with your views on the NAR, but not with your attacks on the King James bible as some kind of inferior translation. There is no translation more exacting than the KJV.

  • @jes2276
    @jes2276 4 роки тому +1

    I was always confused why a group of elders does not exist in so many churches. If the pastor runs everything, what happens when he abuses his power?

    • @darlamiller882
      @darlamiller882 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly! Good point! Cults form when the leader has no accountability!

  • @rayjacobs1146
    @rayjacobs1146 4 роки тому +2

    NAR = A cult?!

  • @brucelythe5977
    @brucelythe5977 4 роки тому +1

    I have been researching NAR since the time of the Toronto 'blessing' and have looked in depth at origins. I am based in the UK. My origins line is Kenyon, Hagin, Lake, Copeland, Wimber, Howard-Browne, Arnott, Bickle, Alpha (Gumbel) and to the moderns such as Johnson and Hillsong.... Happy to share my thinking with anyone interested. I am a missionary with first hand experience of NAR in Africa and Asia as well as Europe. I concur it is false, not Christian, deadly dangerous

    • @brucelythe5977
      @brucelythe5977 4 роки тому

      @Rhys Pritchard happy to chat bp@pobox.com send me email and I will reply

  • @algermom1
    @algermom1 4 роки тому +4

    Looking forward to further installments!

  • @cecillefabio6496
    @cecillefabio6496 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you informative. I'm a new subscriber. I am Protestant, our leader is Jesus. I am watching from Philippines 🇵🇭

  • @fortheluv7132
    @fortheluv7132 4 роки тому +2

    Where is James, the Lord’s brother? Paul references him in Gal. 1:19 as another apostle.

    • @onesimustim8424
      @onesimustim8424 4 роки тому

      1 Cor 9:5 identifies "brothers of the Lord" as being apostles, so that would be James and at least one other of His brothers.

  • @yahwehrapha7915
    @yahwehrapha7915 4 роки тому +1

    What about the other apostles you mention other than the 12 and Paul? What kind of apostles are they for example Barnabas? Thanks

  • @Pecos1
    @Pecos1 4 роки тому +3

    Great info, Allen (sp?). Say, could we possibly speak offline? Even if just through email?

  • @aduenamz2569
    @aduenamz2569 3 роки тому +1

    Actually we had 14 apostles.
    When Judas died he was substituted by Matthias.

  • @sdhute
    @sdhute Рік тому +1

    Are churches who use five fold ministries leaning toward the NAR?

    • @preciousbees5721
      @preciousbees5721 Рік тому

      In a soft way, possibly, or just sharing values... Idk NAR entirely, but they highlight what may have been neglected, hence their popularity ATM....

  • @twiceheldhome
    @twiceheldhome 4 роки тому +9

    Hi Allen! Hey, I know you’ve done a video on Hillsong church before (thank you for that) but it’s one of very few videos online where the church itself is evaluated- not exclusively it’s music. I have a friend who’s sister went to Hillsong college for two years and is now deep into the new age. My friend went to Hillsong college for a few months but ended up leaving due to homesickness but when I try to explain to her exactly what’s wrong with Hillsong, I have trouble. I know a few things Brian Houston has said and done (stance on homosexuality, his book “you need more money” and views on Islam) that are highly questionable but I was wondering if you would consider doing a more in-depth look at their specific teachings. I think it would be a great and much needed resource on UA-cam. Thanks for all your videos! God bless you!

    • @Katflorent
      @Katflorent 4 роки тому +1

      @Precious Things Doreen Virtue has really great videos explaining new age and how it's in the churches.

    • @twiceheldhome
      @twiceheldhome 4 роки тому +3

      The new age is a belief system heavily influenced by eastern thought, philosophy and practice. Some of its practices you might be familiar with are tarot cards, astrology, yoga, crystals, fortune telling, palm reading, meditation, speaking into existence, mantras, the law of attraction, etc. the list goes on and on. It’s a deceptive heresy that’s becoming more and more prevalent in our culture and is creeping its way into the church usually through the NAR movement and popular self-help theology (like Joel Osteen). If you want to learn more about it some resources/people you can look up are Doreen Virtue, Steven Bancarz and gotquestions.org 😊

    • @conniemcmurry9589
      @conniemcmurry9589 4 роки тому

      Oooo

  • @toolegittoquit_001
    @toolegittoquit_001 4 роки тому +4

    This will be good ....😃

  • @cindytargett
    @cindytargett 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks Alan God bless

  • @williewiner4161
    @williewiner4161 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks brother- I enjoy how u explain things. Grace and Peace to you.

  • @MikeChirkov
    @MikeChirkov 4 роки тому +2

    Dear brother! Thank you for your ministry and videos! Blessings to you from the Lord!

  • @mylittlemopony
    @mylittlemopony 3 роки тому +1

    I recently joined a new church in my area because my old church broke apart. I actually just went with my parents because I had no where else to go during the beginning of the pandemic. I started noticing unusual teachings and behaviors within the church. For one, they do have an apostle, he’s from Guatemala. They treat this man as if he was a celebrity or a god himself. He was the only word and final say. My pastor teaches well but I become very confused towards the end when he brings in the apostles teaching. I asked my friends at this new church a question about the apostle and it’s almost like they got offended and became defensive. They’ve told me that people call their apostle fake, that people talk smack about their apostle and post videos of him online trying to expose him and make him look bad. They were saying that they take what he says out of context. (I’ve done my research on this church and it’s completely demonic, I’m letting God lead me to a church this time) This new church i go to has a youth leader. He grew up in this church. They grew up thinking that if you go somewhere else, or someone is telling you to leave, you are being taken away from the devil and it’s the devil who is lying to you. If you leave their church, your soul is lost. You cannot hear any other pastor preach and you’re not allowed to search up for sermons online that isn’t of their apostle. If so, you’re defying God’s word and the apostle’s. They’re teaching the youth that the yolk the Bible talks about is a literal egg 🤦🏻‍♀️
    They are teaching the children that Satan administers Christians in hell! he’s teaching them and tells them why they are in hell for. I was like, “wait is this man saying that Satan is the final judge?”
    They’re teaching the children that when they die, they go to a waiting room. They’re teaching them so many wrong teachings and people still applaud them. They call the people who help in the church “napkins” because they’re disposable. They don’t call them leaders because then arrogance gets to their head. But somehow only they’re allowed to have titles. I’ve also noticed that our pastor sits in a very different table with certain elders, it’s not too exclusive. It’s almost like a VIP table. No women are ever allowed to teach or do much besides watch the kids and serve in the kitchen or as ushers. They’ve also been teaching children that once you sell your soul to the devil, you can’t get it recovered AT ALL.
    They’ve told us a story that our apostle sees visions, revelations etc... and he said that the angels that took out Lot out of danger, appeared to him and two other people. Idk what this church is teaching but it’s not the God of the Bible that’s forsure!

  • @galaxieman1964
    @galaxieman1964 4 роки тому +2

    Sounds like yet another movement of "wolves"

  • @davidmurray5175
    @davidmurray5175 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks Allan, the good Lord working through you. I feel blessed when I watch your videos.

  • @samhiguma
    @samhiguma 4 роки тому +1

    I can't believe I actually read Branham not knowing how dangerous he was.
    I recall having sudden feelings of a very heavy and depressed atmosphere, and a strange impersonal presence lurking near while I read a book of his.
    when I sought advise about that, a brother whom I still respect had the bad idea of not telling me to stop immediately and I went on. Thanks to God I just didn't finish the book and by now I completely reject his theology

  • @mamainchristjesusofthechri9886
    @mamainchristjesusofthechri9886 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for showing the association between NAR and Vineyard. I was born in the 80s and partly raised in the Vineyard where we did church but I don’t recall ever hearing the gospel. There was a strong assertion of the importance of the personal experience/feelings.

  • @harrisonrogers9108
    @harrisonrogers9108 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this. So few understand the NAR and sadly so many who have vested interest in the Sacred Purple Cows of NAR blinds them to critical thinking!

  • @andrewjohnson577
    @andrewjohnson577 4 роки тому +2

    Jesus said what I tell you to in the dark speak in the daylight what I whispered in your ear proclaim from the roofs

  • @ryanehlis426
    @ryanehlis426 4 роки тому +1

    NAR is something religious people made up to label people who have the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Jesus instituted the 5 fold ministry, this is biblical. Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, Pastors, Teachers. So pastors are one fifth of the leadership of the church. No where does the Bible say there are no more Apostles. Also people today are personally visited buy Jesus and commissioned. Yes the 7 mountain mandates is a revelation from God to the church.

    • @PoliteLeader
      @PoliteLeader  4 роки тому

      Hi Ryan. Thanks for your comment. You are mistaken though. NAR was specifically coined by Dr. Peter Wagner, not religious people who were trying to make up labels.

    • @ryanehlis426
      @ryanehlis426 4 роки тому +1

      Polite Leader Mr Wagner who I am not familiar with may have coined that phrase, and yes there has been a recognition of Prophets and Apostles in recent decades but that is simply part of the 5 fold ministry leadership in the church. Not some “strange foreign doctrine” as you propose. John Paul Jackson is a good example of a modern prophets ministry for example. Jeremiah Johnson is another Prophet minister today. Michael Koulianos and Dr Randy Clark are Apostles id say.

  • @BrotherJohnElving
    @BrotherJohnElving 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome. Just awesome. I am going to mirror it on my UA-cam channel. Thank you and great job. Bless your ministry.

  • @infinityApologeticsClips
    @infinityApologeticsClips 4 роки тому +4

    Another great video 😃

    • @Grace-nt9cc
      @Grace-nt9cc 4 роки тому +2

      So true! 🤗 Hello Riaz!😌 Good to see you! 🙌🏽🙌🏻🙌🏽🙏🏽✝️❤️🕊️🌹

  • @forg1vens1nner58
    @forg1vens1nner58 4 роки тому +2

    Very informative and well put together video. I appreciate your time and effort. Your knowledge and wisdom is a blessing sir.

  • @wetlandweasel
    @wetlandweasel 4 роки тому +2

    "Has to" contribute to their financial well-being!?!

  • @The.Alabama.Woodsman
    @The.Alabama.Woodsman 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the videos. I am finding more and more, commenters on my channel have no real idea what the NAR is about and how it is fracturing the church, I believe into apostasy.
    You have made the subject clearer to me and I can't wait to devour the remaining videos.

  • @JohnBoyDeere
    @JohnBoyDeere 2 роки тому

    Elders (qualified i.e, sound, spiritually mature, biblical versed men of God) working arm in arm with the pastor of same qualification. This is the biblical way to "run" a local congregation...

  • @howardbabcom
    @howardbabcom 4 роки тому +2

    Nicely done. One sphere not touched on was how this mushroomed in the 70s within the "Restoration" movement - in the US, this was seen with the 'Fort Lauderdale five' (Derek Prince, Bob Mumford, C J Mahoney, Judson Cornwall, Ern Baxter) and in the UK with the Bradford and Cobham groupings (Arthur Wallis, Bryn Jones, Terry Virgo, Gerald Coates, etc), which is examined in Andrew Walker's book, Restoring the Kingdom. I was on the peripheral of this for many years and saw the huge amount of damage it produced. A new rendition has begun to appear in the last few years ties to Holy Trinity Brompton and from there back to Toronto and New Wine (Bob Weiner) in America. This stuff is toxic poison, and needs to be entirely exposed as pseudo christian.

    • @rickkelly4111
      @rickkelly4111 4 роки тому

      Was the Ft Lauderdale thing about Pastors having pretty much all authority over the church folks or something like that? And the word Lordship rings a bell surrounding this also. Or am I way off base? I admit I am too lazy to google it! But I do know like you said that it was a harmful thing and the guys at the helm later admitted as much (or at least one or two of them).

    • @howardbabcom
      @howardbabcom 4 роки тому

      @@rickkelly4111 Thanks for your response. The sources for Restorationism are varied - Irvingism (The Apostolic church), Juan Carlos Ortiz's work, Disciple and the mosaic of Anabaptist and Pietist movements of prior centuries, as well as 'ministry' from Branham and A A Allen all feed in. What's important as in the current movement, is that they were devoted to the renewal of Apostolic ministry, which expressed itself in total submission to shepherding to local authority (Ronald Enroth's "Churches that Abuse" touches on the consequences of this). The thing which is so troubling is how this continues to re-appear and poisons the faith.

    • @rickkelly4111
      @rickkelly4111 4 роки тому

      @@howardbabcom thanks for your response. You mentioned the word that I was looking for----shepherding. I mistakenly said lordship----two different things.

    • @mickey1849
      @mickey1849 Рік тому

      @@rickkelly4111 Yes. The thing in the 70s was called the "Shepherding Controversy."

  • @campparsonssundayschool7844
    @campparsonssundayschool7844 4 роки тому +1

    Barnabas was an apostle too. Acts 14:14.

  • @juanevangelista4552
    @juanevangelista4552 4 роки тому +1

    These so called modern day "apostles might as well continue the apostleship of Judas Iscariot

  • @gordonjones2971
    @gordonjones2971 4 роки тому +1

    Does Smithville and Brownsville (Pensacola) belong to this NAR or no?

  • @johnf.kennedy5387
    @johnf.kennedy5387 4 роки тому +4

    Dear Allen or Allan did you see that new peace deal Truno announced between Israel and the UAE, bible prophecie is happening right before our eyes yet people are still scoffing.
    Also random question what is better pancakes, waffles, or french toast.

    • @PoliteLeader
      @PoliteLeader  4 роки тому

      @luis martinez I do not know the details about the new peace deal. I only saw the headlines. And pancakes.

  • @stacigeorgemarshall2967
    @stacigeorgemarshall2967 4 роки тому

    HYPOCHRISTIANS EVERYWHERE TREMBLE!! GOD'S WORD WILL PEEL THE SKIN FROM YOUR BONES. Thank you Allan for your opening eyes everywhere. God Bless and Keep you.

  • @fimtalk
    @fimtalk 4 роки тому +2

    Very informative. Thank you for another great video.

  • @SantaCruz-tr8qy
    @SantaCruz-tr8qy 11 місяців тому

    1 Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord remains forever.” And this word is the good news that was preached to you. NOW. And This Is the WORD of GOD: Jeremiah 27:15, 14:14, 23:16, 23:21 Matthew 7:22 And they will say; ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
    The problem with deception is that people don’t know that they are deceived, AMEN.!!!

  • @kayleyhiggins4205
    @kayleyhiggins4205 4 роки тому +2

    Yes! Love this!! Can’t wait for the rest of the series!! 👏🏻🙌🏻❤️

  • @markrichey3914
    @markrichey3914 3 роки тому

    Apostolics call their leaders apostles and prophets.Hold them above accountability.They practice the unblblical SLAIN in the SPIRIT.

  • @CascadianPatriotII
    @CascadianPatriotII 2 місяці тому

    See, craziness like the NAR is why I don't believe in freedom of religious practice-that is, as opposed to _belief._

  • @Roza-ou5wp
    @Roza-ou5wp 4 роки тому +3

    Interesting topic👍

  • @ginarios9442
    @ginarios9442 4 роки тому

    SHLM UHaB (peace & love). The Name of the Creator is Hayah asher Hayah, as what He told Moses (Exodus 3:14), but that was altered in the English Scriptures. There is a curse to the G-o-d name (Isaiah 65:11-12), but...altered...English Scriptures. These verses have been preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures, however. All followers of the Messiah are supposed to do the 7 appointed times (Leviticus 23), but no more animal sacrifices, following the Crucifixion of the Messiah. We are now of the order of MLK TSDQ, (King, Righteous), to Whom ABRaHM tithed. Ask the Messiah, if you have not already, to be your personal Savior. He is the Atoning Offering for mankind, for the remission of sin (1 John 2:1-2).

  • @mlauntube
    @mlauntube Рік тому

    6:55 LOL the qualifications for an Apostle! Says who? All we have is observations of the Apostles whom Jesus chose (and I'm glad Polite Leader realized that Apostles chose Mathias, but Jesus chose Paul). It only got embarrassing when he adds in there that they had to have written or oversaw scriptures. This is not dangerous teaching, just sloppy. But, it does exemplify a dangerous practice that Jesus condemned: making tradition authority. And it is ironic that a person who holds to church father's traditions is saying now singing "Sola Scriptura, Sola Scriptura!"

  • @boykintreeservice
    @boykintreeservice 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the study Allen. I've been hoping you would pull through with this topic. I appreciate your legwork brother.

  • @tribeof9
    @tribeof9 3 роки тому

    I'm researching the NAR right now as I'm looking at joining a church network that runs in these circles and it's new to me. I will say that the leader of the US branch told me point blank that they do not view the gift of the apostle to be on the same level as the 12 at all. So there's at least some diversity of opinion here. I also know that this network is governed by a board of elders not a single apostle. I'm at least concerned that your observations will lead to over-generalizations about what appears to be a diverse movement.

  • @davidsprofitt
    @davidsprofitt 3 роки тому

    Your argument would be so much better if you stopped saying Paul said he was the "last" of the apostles. He said "least." The Greek word means smallest least
    in size, in amount: of management of affairs, in importance: what is the least moment, in authority: of commandments, in the estimation of men: of persons, in rank and excellence: of persons (Strongs G1646). It simply does not imply or mean "last." I don't disagree with your thesis, but just as the NAR people twist scripture to support their points, you are twisting scripture to deny their points. This is very poor exegesis.

  • @ohla300
    @ohla300 4 роки тому

    It sounds so Vain but I guess they believe they're on a higher spiritual level but IMO they're arrogant glory hogging Pastors ✌💗 Im becoming weary of the word, New. "green New deal, New normal, New world order..."

  • @RyanK-100
    @RyanK-100 Рік тому

    I love how churches who claim "Sola Scriputura!" pull analogies out of the asses and claim them to be dogmas. Might as well believe in purgatory and the immaculate conception - at least there is historical and philosophical reasoning in these concepts. Here we have lots of "A looks like B" or "Scripture says C but it must mean D."

  • @ToOpen6seven
    @ToOpen6seven 3 роки тому

    1 Corinthians 15:1-10 kjv
    1. Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
    2. By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
    3. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
    4. And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
    5. And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
    6. After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
    7. After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
    8. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
    9. For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
    10. But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

  • @farmlife09
    @farmlife09 4 роки тому

    I feel that I need to say one thing. BE VERY VERY VERY VERY CAREFUL. Please read what I’m saying. Be careful of who you lump into your apostlolic reformation. I’m probably one who you would lump into the NAR. And I never heard of anyone you mentioned I don’t agree with anything you said that those people said. All I believe is that the word of God. The Bible should be taken as personally applicable to my self. So the words of Jesus said to his disciples should be applied and obeyed as if I was a disciple. I don’t believe I’m a apostle. Just a disciple like the 70 in Luke 10 or the 120 in acts 1-2. I have seen god do amazing thing in my life and meet meany other who believe the same thing and have experienced God in ways that no one would deny if you experienced it your self. Sorry I don’t have any other way to describe what I’ve seen and experienced in this format. I have not seen one contradiction in scripture to this way of reading the Bible but rather the scripture makes so much more sense. I don’t have to wrangle and twist scripture to make it not contradict. It all comes together and makes sense from beginning to end now. Does this make me a NAR if that what you want to call me so be it. But. I just follow Jesus as a simple disciple and answer to him as my judge and king. Please be careful who you lump into your NAR group. You may lump meany sincere Christians who are only following the words of Christ and being lead by the Holy Spirit. If your going to be a judge as to what’s of god and what’s false teaching. Do what Jesus said. And look at there fruit if there fruit is good. (Turning people away from sin to seek and serve God with all there heart and love others. ) then it is good. But if there fruit is bad self seeking self fulfilling leading to people bing in sin in selfishness leading to people living a life in the world looking just like the world. It is bad. Thanks for reading all of this. May god show you what is true and expose the lies of satan. Sorry for any bad spelling.

  • @busker153
    @busker153 3 роки тому

    Jesus clearly said, "My kingdom is not of this world." That statement is always true. Premillenial, Postmillenial, and NAR theology all try to make God's kingdom of this world. Jesus is coming back to get us, and take us away. He is not setting foot on this earth ever again. He is not coming back to set up shop of any kind. Yes, the Jews will rebuild their abomination (temple), and the antichrist will rule from it!

  • @laragreene8328
    @laragreene8328 4 роки тому

    sO i'VE HEARD ABOUT ALL WHO'S WRONG.......WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO DISCUSS WHATS RIGHT?? THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE OFFENSIVE ...BUT JESUS DID SAY THINK ON THOSE THINGS THAT ARE LOVELY TRUE AND OF A GOOD REPORT!.................OR IS YOUR ONLY PURPOSE TO DISCUSS WHATS WRONG? IS THERE ANYTHING DONE RIGHT TODAY??

  • @JFDSmit-rm6tw
    @JFDSmit-rm6tw 3 роки тому

    Babylon, the Harlot (opposite of New Jerusalem, the Bride), the city on seven hills (mountains) (opposite of New Jerusalem the shining city on the mountain), where the nations (cultures and religions) come together (compared to New Jerusalem where those who belong to Jesus Christ come together), where human rights and equality reign (instead of human duty and just rewards), where one god of many names is worshiped in many ways (instead of God the Trinity worshiped according to His commands), where tolerance is the highest good (compared to where holiness is the highest good), where people are no longer under the Law but under Grace in "jesus" and free to live as they want (instead of protected from the Law's hammer of justice by the blood of Jesus Christ and thereby free from their passions, so they can live as they should).
    Babylon, the Harlot who will in the end persecute the Bride
    Babylon, the harlot, looking like a lamb but speaking with the voice of a dragon
    Babylon, the harlot who needs to demand payment for her services from her visitors, rather than New Jerusalem the Bride who is supported and maintained by her Husband Jesus Christ.
    Babylon, the Harlot-church whose god needs you. Compared to New Jerusalem the Bride, whose God you need.

  • @jaimeandmatt
    @jaimeandmatt 4 роки тому

    Does anyone know if there is a site we can go to that shows all the present day prophets and their prophesies? I've tried to look at a few NAR leader sites but no luck. I see the occasional UA-cam prophetic teaching - but I'm looking for a list. I'm sure someone must have thought to compile them, yes? It would make identifying a false prophet so much more easy I'd imagine. Thanks in advance! ~JLM

  • @misterprogressive8730
    @misterprogressive8730 3 роки тому

    There were more apostoles than just the thirteen, see romans 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was. (NIV)
    We are all apostoles because we are all sent to evangelize the world, we are all prophets because it is one of the gift of the holy spirit (1 cor 15)