That is just why i watched this video as a deck turned up with a spring in the bottom of the player i didnt have an old deck so i watched your video and now know were it goes back on. big thumbs up.
Excellent tutorial. Really useful. Just finished restoring a Dansette Viva that will not switch off. Thanks to you I now know how to fix it. Many thanks, much appreciated.
@@boblordylordyhowie The drive wheel spring might be weak, not pulling the wheel against the turntable. Or the stepped pulley might be set incorrectly on its shaft. Just a thought.
Beware of using WD40 near plastic,used to use it on volume controls on tv's,week or two later the plastic around the volume controls changed composition and broke apart.
Hi Ray. I was just wondering, was the idler wheel in good condition? Some early record player users would leave it engaged when not in use. This would form a 'dent' in the idler wheel, causing it to make a noise while rotating. This would, of course, mean replacing the rubber idler wheel, if you could find a suitable replacement.. 🤔
BSR was originally ' Birmingham Sound Reproducers' I believe they adopted the 'Better Sound Reproduction' title some time later which I always thought was quite poor the former being far better. They had two factories which employed a huge amount of people one at Stourbridge and the other a few miles away at Cradley Heath, both being in the 'Black Country' miles away from Birmingham, perhaps the original concern started in the City, I don't know. They also produced a more expensive range of transcription decks under the 'Mc Donald' name named after the founder of the company.
really enjoyed this and learned loads. Now have the confidence to tackle one myself. One question though, could one of these old cartridges be replaced with something a bit more modern
Hi firstly thanks for the great video. I’ve got a dansette conquest and I’ve tried to take off top of turntable. I’ve removed c-clip but turntable doesn’t come off I’ve also removed bar in middle but can’t get it off. Am I missing something. Your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
thanks for this helpful and informative info. Having trouble with the speed control on an old BSR MA65 (Ferguson) have been following and cleaning as your video, but unable to remove the deck from the casing due to the transit screws staying in place. Have you any advice?
Comments have been disabled on your recent rf interference video. I believe it's computer interference. I get a very similar sound when my Pc is on and it stops when I unplug it.
Hi Ray thanks for the video very interesting, I have done a few decks in the past but some time ago bit i have a BSR deck of my own in a old germanium transistor record/radio/tape deck what was handed down to me (not working of course) but i have repaid it now though mind you i am looking for a couple of 4mm metal capped wire ended dial lamps 5v (if you know what i mean haha) Regaurds paul
Hi Andy, clean and lubricate the motor bearings and all other moving parts. It's probably the idler wheel that needs replacing. I have seen them on eBay from time to time. Cheers, Ray.
So, are these decks meant to be springy? I saw another video of a Dansette Conquest as I'm planning to buy one and it did the same. My guess is that its springy for the vibrations and it doesn't damage the record?
hello radio workshop,I was wondering as im trying to re lube my bsr turntable and my question was,do you use wd40 for everything,or do you use a different grease or oil for certain parts.And for the ball bearings do u use wd40 for that?I have wd40 and was wanting to ask before i used it for everthing.Thank you very much and love the video!☺
White lithium grease works wonders on BSR record changers, especially for the thrust bearing assembly, underside track of the cycle cam gear, and various linkages, nooks and crannies underneath the turntable. You just have to clean off all the old grease (you can try WD40) with rubbing alcohol and a qtip or liquid wrench with a paintbrush. 3-in-1 or sewing machine oil is best for lubing the middle and lower motor shaft and bearings. And there is Rawn re-grip rubber cleaner/rejuvenator for the idler wheel.
You, my friend, are a living legend. We need more people like you in this world.
blythymcblyth thank you!
No worries dude. 👍
That is just why i watched this video as a deck turned up with a spring in the bottom of the player i didnt have an old deck so i watched your video and now know were it goes back on. big thumbs up.
Thanks!
Excellent tutorial. Really useful. Just finished restoring a Dansette Viva that will not switch off. Thanks to you I now know how to fix it. Many thanks, much appreciated.
Glad you found it useful.
@@g4nsj Thanks again. Now working perfectly.
No doubt I am going to be back and forth watching this as I try to get one to work again.
Good luck with the job.
@@g4nsj I'll need it, I can't fathom how it is supposed to work and don't want to start dismantling it and make it worse.
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@@g4nsj I keep trying with this but the drive wheel won't keep hitting the mark, if I change speed it stops running.
@@boblordylordyhowie The drive wheel spring might be weak, not pulling the wheel against the turntable. Or the stepped pulley might be set incorrectly on its shaft. Just a thought.
thankyou very very much mate! very thorough and broken down into laymans terms! hats off to you!
Excellent, glad you found it useful. Cheers, Ray.
Thanks for thr good info hereRay.
Happy Haowee, and cheers!
Tom
***** Cheers, Tom.
Ray Heffer Yikes! Sorry about the typos Ray. I was commenting originally using my Android and did not see the screen well.
Yep! Did the record on the side thing, then wondered why it was playing slow! Idiot that I am!! lol Excellent as usual.
Beware of using WD40 near plastic,used to use it on volume controls on tv's,week or two later the plastic around the volume controls changed composition and broke apart.
Interesting, thanks.
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£25 fine and£7 costs,I only earned £9 a week!,love the stories and technical advice 😀
That's very true
Hi Ray. This is the only video of yours,I have received a notification of in a long time. Have you made any others ?. Well done on the BSR servicing.
Hi Bobby, most of my videos are in the members' area of my web site. I do hope to be adding some more public videos soon. Cheers, Ray.
Hi Ray Good video. I prefer to remove as much of the old hardened grease from the parts and regrease , WD is fine as a quick fix though.
Glpi lpi If I recall correctly, we used to use Molyslip grease.
we have something along those lines called superlube
excellent idea keeping scrap decks
Thanks for this. Very useful!
Hi Ray. I was just wondering, was the idler wheel in good condition? Some early record player users would leave it engaged when not in use. This would form a 'dent' in the idler wheel, causing it to make a noise while rotating. This would, of course, mean replacing the rubber idler wheel, if you could find a suitable replacement.. 🤔
When I did repairs, I fitted a rubber tyre on the old wheel. It did the trick! Cheers, Ray.
BSR was originally ' Birmingham Sound Reproducers' I believe they adopted the 'Better Sound Reproduction' title some time later which I always thought was quite poor the former being far better.
They had two factories which employed a huge amount of people one at Stourbridge and the other a few miles away at Cradley Heath, both being in the 'Black Country' miles away from Birmingham, perhaps the original concern started in the City, I don't know.
They also produced a more expensive range of transcription decks under the 'Mc Donald' name named after the founder of the company.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks ,very good information video
before I oil the upper motor shaft I wrap saran wrap[or something similar] around the idler step[s]
really enjoyed this and learned loads. Now have the confidence to tackle one myself. One question though, could one of these old cartridges be replaced with something a bit more modern
Garyf yes I would think so. As long as it matches the amp you’re using.
Hi firstly thanks for the great video. I’ve got a dansette conquest and I’ve tried to take off top of turntable. I’ve removed c-clip but turntable doesn’t come off I’ve also removed bar in middle but can’t get it off. Am I missing something. Your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
thanks for this helpful and informative info. Having trouble with the speed control on an old BSR MA65 (Ferguson) have been following and cleaning as your video, but unable to remove the deck from the casing due to the transit screws staying in place. Have you any advice?
Brenda McCourt release the clips on the transit screws below the deck.
Comments have been disabled on your recent rf interference video. I believe it's computer interference. I get a very similar sound when my Pc is on and it stops when I unplug it.
Hi Ray thanks for the video very interesting, I have done a few decks in the past but some time ago bit i have a BSR deck of my own in a old germanium transistor record/radio/tape deck what was handed down to me (not working of course) but i have repaid it now though mind you i am looking for a couple of 4mm metal capped wire ended dial lamps 5v (if you know what i mean haha)
Regaurds paul
I have a deck like this that's running about 3.5% too slow. Any suggestions anyone?
Hi Andy, clean and lubricate the motor bearings and all other moving parts. It's probably the idler wheel that needs replacing. I have seen them on eBay from time to time. Cheers, Ray.
So, are these decks meant to be springy? I saw another video of a Dansette Conquest as I'm planning to buy one and it did the same. My guess is that its springy for the vibrations and it doesn't damage the record?
Yes, they are meant to be springy to counter vibration. Cheers, Ray.
I thought so! what are the normal tracking force on these? I'm thinking of buying one.
I don't know the tracking force. It's been a long time since I worked on them.
Ah, okay, Thanks anyway!
hello radio workshop,I was wondering as im trying to re lube my bsr turntable and my question was,do you use wd40 for everything,or do you use a different grease or oil for certain parts.And for the ball bearings do u use wd40 for that?I have wd40 and was wanting to ask before i used it for everthing.Thank you very much and love the video!☺
I use WD40 on all parts of the turntable. Not too much though! Glad you liked the video. Cheers, Ray.
White lithium grease works wonders on BSR record changers, especially for the thrust bearing assembly, underside track of the cycle cam gear, and various linkages, nooks and crannies underneath the turntable. You just have to clean off all the old grease (you can try WD40) with rubbing alcohol and a qtip or liquid wrench with a paintbrush. 3-in-1 or sewing machine oil is best for lubing the middle and lower motor shaft and bearings. And there is Rawn re-grip rubber cleaner/rejuvenator for the idler wheel.
How do i attach the tonearm
There's a small screw on one side of the arm, from what I remember.
Hey I’ve sussed it thanks anyway for a great video
That's good news. Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Cheers, Ray.
What's a Record deck...haha
Haha, love it! Cheers, Ray.