In your opinion, is there a big difference between sora 4k and sora v2. I can't decide. The weight is not a difference for me, I care about good side buttons, because I use them a lot.
i have tried lots of mice and this is absolutely a game changer. i can't understand how much better this is vs the other mice i have tried, logitech g pro x superlight among others, various razer mice. i mained XTRFY M42 before i switched. it feels like a brick in comparison and is a little on the heavy side compared to other mice out there but the hump shape for the XTRFY made me simply love it. The hump shape on sora v2 is insanely good even better feel tbh. my hands are about 17.5, 9.5 ish if i remember correctly so quite small.
I got this weird thing that my V2 does multiclicks when the temperature is below 20°C or when the window is open. Dont know if its just for me and its broken or more people got this problem.
I’ve tried it all zowie, razer, vaxee, logitech, corsair, gwolve, endgame and honestly this is probably the best I’ve tried yet. My favourite thing is the coating I’ve always needed grip tapes for every mice but the coating here is amazing!
Hmm the performance and what not is definitely messy. Hoping ninjutso can clean up the performance and sensor soon with maybe a firmware update. Hoping for an update video @hausgaming whenever they fix it to see what your new findings are!
I kinda wanna get this mouse right now im with Blackshark which is much cheaper and I'm happy with it. I'm looking for a new one just to switch it up from time to time.
V2 have some issue of now which is common of other mouse, if you don't want any issue go with Atlantis mini 4k (which I'm currently using) and try to check ninjutso 4k, which is both of them have same feature but different shape, which i have also, but if ima compare them I'll go with ninjutso 4k because I'm more on relax claw now if you're agro claw go with lamzu just a option of my recommendation
3:20 You have to keep in mind that you're comparing motion sync (razer) to no motion sync (sora v2). But that one outlier at 450ms is still pretty bad. I think the others are just how no motion sync normally looks
Hi @@hausgaming, I have been watching your every video since I found your channel, and some videos were not just watched once but many times. And I consider you the most objective data-based reviewer with mice. I wish you could read my comments and look into the data. (I have tested 20+ times.) Because I personally think the sensor implementation and the wireless solution (independent N52820 PCB receiver) are very unique and good for 1k, and it deserves a better reputation. Respect!
Still trying to find a mouse for my 18x10.5 hands. I think I pincer claw? The mouse rests on the palm/knuckle area right below my ring and pinky finger and those 2 fingers are fairly straight with a mild curve and holding the side with the sides of those fingers with my thumb extended. Not sure what to call this frakenstein grip but my GPX is causing massive pain after switching from Sensei shapes (DM1 S2 since it released). Got a Viper V2 pro on order on sale mostly as a stop gap to stop the finger pain until I find a good fit.
If you're fine with mouse1 and 2 being so low, then it's good. But for me, coming from g703 (same clicks height as on gpx) - it's too low, had to change from relaxed fingers on m1,2 to slightly aggressive and my wrist hurts.
Don’t know why they couldn’t just say it was 40g instead of slapping 39g everywhere, it doesn’t even matter that much so the fact they did that rubs me the wrong way
the mousewheel is sadly ass in longevity. every apex legends gamer should avoid this scrollwheel. it's a dust-proofed ttc gold and i had to replace mine on the pulsar x2 mini (latest badge) after half a year. i'd recommend to watch out for dust-proof kailh red scrollwheels, they have way better longevity.
@@hausgaming well I found out your wrong. I changed it from 1 to 2 and I’m getting way more out of a charge. Like 30 percent more. Should it affect it I don’t know but it did on my copy.
I believe the x/y count vs time you measured at 3:21 might be flawed. It doesn't look like some outliers, it looks like a complete sensor malfunction. I have a sora v2 and its sensor performes just as good as a normal 3395 constantly. (And at 3:21 for the left graph - razer mouse, I encoutered a type of bug when using mousetester and click "mouse data" - "collect" before, it was 1k pulling rate but somehow downsized to the kind of pulling rate in the graph - 125hz I think, and it looked just like the left garph. That bug might cause some inaccurate results - pulling unstability which results very bad looking x/y count graph.) Edit: some mistypes. And 1/3.
And in addition I think another possible cause to this result might be there is no sensor ring feet beneath. I googled the function of the sensor ring before, the ring is there to keep the sensor a minimum distance from the pad. If the sensor is too close to the pad, it would malfunction which results it stop tracking. So if the mouse is pressed too much when tested, it might cause tracking problems. (3/3)
Those tests have been reran multiple times, the sensor ring would not cause such difference on the pad that I am currently using. I've seen similar graphs with other mice in the past. But as I said, you do not need to worry about it
@@hausgaming Ok, thanks for the reply! The reason I wrote this is because the left graph is typical 125Hz looking. Since it's a comparsion so I presume it was running at 1000hz(Also when at 125hz, motion sync doesn't make quite difference, on/off xcount graphs looks basicly identical. There is no point showing motion sync with 125 hz.), then it reminds me of the bug I experienced as my comment describes which would cause screwed mouse data. Well since you have tested it multiple times, just forget what I comment I guess. Love your content!
dude i know u need to eat.. but stop talking like 4k and 8k matters. it really doesnt and only kids born after 2000 missed the gaming days think this is true lmao
Genuinely an insane mouse. I’m really excited to do our review when I have the time.
Need your review on this mouse, they are the best
you guys are one of my favorite mouse reviewers on youtube. cant wait to watch your review!
would absolutely love your review on it, minecraft gaming go brrrrr
I was so close to getting a Sora 4K a few months back but decided to hold off. Think it's time now
Wait for v3 please. It's their first collab as well. You will enjoy it.
What do you mean by v3? what type of collab are you talking about@@8020Alive
@@8020Alive v2 just got released. You know when v3 gonna be available? in a YEAR or so... lol
@@8020Alive And when v3 comes out, you're gonna tell us to wait for v4
Uh oh. Definitely wait for v3 now
Ninjitu oh no 😢 sad. Sorry my English not good.
glad you released this vid! still waiting on my unit to arrive
Gonna be honest im kinda salty (at myself) i bought sora 4k a month before they announced v2 xD
Same, gonna buy it when i get my paycheck
Might still be able to return it depending on vendor
do you like the sora 4k in general tho?
@@muddy1337 it's alright, kinda wish it was a little bit smaller you know? like V2 xD
I mean u got 4K polling while Sora V2 is stuck at 1k and ppl will have to buy the dongle later
Huge video
Glad I snagged the OP1 8K while waiting for reviews. OP1 has a great shape, and happy to learn this is similar.
Lucky, doesn’t come back in stock till next month here 😢
the sora v2 will feel A LOT wider than the OP1
In your opinion, is there a big difference between sora 4k and sora v2. I can't decide. The weight is not a difference for me, I care about good side buttons, because I use them a lot.
Haus I've been waiting for xm2w for years now i love the xm1r do u recommend copping this as for the shape or wait for xm2w
Op1 8k review when? You’re probably one of the best at measuring sensor performance! :D
hey lil anime zoomer fgt
4k and 8k matters. it really doesnt and only kids born after 2000 missed the gaming days think this is true lmao
Are the omron opticals loud on the v2 mate?
May I know what skates you use?
how big is the performance impact of motion sync for mice? cuz most mice nowadays offer that setting
i have tried lots of mice and this is absolutely a game changer. i can't understand how much better this is vs the other mice i have tried, logitech g pro x superlight among others, various razer mice. i mained XTRFY M42 before i switched. it feels like a brick in comparison and is a little on the heavy side compared to other mice out there but the hump shape for the XTRFY made me simply love it. The hump shape on sora v2 is insanely good even better feel tbh. my hands are about 17.5, 9.5 ish if i remember correctly so quite small.
I got this weird thing that my V2 does multiclicks when the temperature is below 20°C or when the window is open. Dont know if its just for me and its broken or more people got this problem.
I’ve tried it all zowie, razer, vaxee, logitech, corsair, gwolve, endgame and honestly this is probably the best I’ve tried yet. My favourite thing is the coating I’ve always needed grip tapes for every mice but the coating here is amazing!
No issue? Like double click?
The sora v2 feels amazing with 40g I love it so much ❤
what would you say are the main differences between the la-1 and the sora v2?
Will you test 4/8k performance after release? Also what is competetive mode actually doing xD?
Hmm the performance and what not is definitely messy. Hoping ninjutso can clean up the performance and sensor soon with maybe a firmware update. Hoping for an update video @hausgaming whenever they fix it to see what your new findings are!
Thanks for review.
I’m good with my op1 8k so far, I still find lamzu atlantis mini to fit my hand perfectly (18x9cm)
how long did it take to get yours i just ordered one today?
id like to see an update vid after you get the new dongle!
I kinda wanna get this mouse right now im with Blackshark which is much cheaper and I'm happy with it.
I'm looking for a new one just to switch it up from time to time.
Is that the Lamzu keyboard on your table?
I'm gonna just say that 38 grams is too light for me. I'm into 60-80g mice relaxed claw grip
so does that mean I can upgrade to 2-8k sora dongle in the future just with this mouse?
Would you recommend people to buy this mouse, if not then which is the better alternatives if money is no problems.
how did they get it that light without holes on the top or bottom?
I used Lamzu Thorn 4k in CS2 with no problems.
But I have it now on 2k hz cause of battery.
Don't know why you have those stutters .
I'm considering either the Sora V2 or the Atlantis Mini 4K, I use relaxed claw and have pretty small hands (15/8), which one should I get?
v2
V2 have some issue of now which is common of other mouse, if you don't want any issue go with Atlantis mini 4k (which I'm currently using) and try to check ninjutso 4k, which is both of them have same feature but different shape, which i have also, but if ima compare them I'll go with ninjutso 4k because I'm more on relax claw now if you're agro claw go with lamzu just a option of my recommendation
In short if you're more relax claw player go with ninjusto v2 or 4k
And if ur agro go with lamzu 4k or maya maybe im not sure about maya
the sora v2 and the sprime look the same but the scroll wheel
Razer 4k meant for Razer viper v3 hpyerspeed?
viewmodel and res?
What about wired performance?
what keycaps are they?!
im gonna wait for the sora v2 red. this looks like a cop. Crazy to think that Ninjutso released 2 mice before EGG release their XM2w lmao
how about compare this with vgn vxe r1 pro?
is the shape close to zowie s1
I literally got the Sora 4K like a month ago :(
4-8k hertz seems fine for me on cs2, no stutters etc.
Is it better from Sora 4k ?
Yes
my brother, we are waiting for op1 8k, all love
@hausganing can you tell us your hand size for reference?
bumping this :) im curious too bc i also want a reference
he said its 18x10 or 19x10 in one video
3:20 You have to keep in mind that you're comparing motion sync (razer) to no motion sync (sora v2). But that one outlier at 450ms is still pretty bad. I think the others are just how no motion sync normally looks
The Sora graph is actually with Motion sync, it does not reproduce all the time though.
Hi @@hausgaming, I have been watching your every video since I found your channel, and some videos were not just watched once but many times. And I consider you the most objective data-based reviewer with mice. I wish you could read my comments and look into the data. (I have tested 20+ times.) Because I personally think the sensor implementation and the wireless solution (independent N52820 PCB receiver) are very unique and good for 1k, and it deserves a better reputation. Respect!
@@hausgamingoh okay that makes it even worse
@@Katze822228do not worry about it, doesn't happen all the time and the likelihood of you feeling any difference is minimal
@@constitution-classstarship5845hey bro! What data would you want me to take a look at ?
I'm going to buy a Makia shirt now. It looks really good
when is a mouse too light?
1-23 g says some of the valo and cs2 and minecraft pros
Still trying to find a mouse for my 18x10.5 hands. I think I pincer claw? The mouse rests on the palm/knuckle area right below my ring and pinky finger and those 2 fingers are fairly straight with a mild curve and holding the side with the sides of those fingers with my thumb extended. Not sure what to call this frakenstein grip but my GPX is causing massive pain after switching from Sensei shapes (DM1 S2 since it released). Got a Viper V2 pro on order on sale mostly as a stop gap to stop the finger pain until I find a good fit.
Can you do this with 8k dongle. It’s only $10
where do you buy the 8 k dongle?
This vs G Wolves HTX? The HTX weighs 37grams????
This. HTX has weird shape
My htx has QC issues and many others also have problems my htx left click is brutal.
@@chinnerchilla really? mine has been flawless out the gate. Had it for about a week now.
@@puertadlm163G wolves in general is like a lottery draw for QC.
Is it good for fingertip grip my hand size is 19-9 cm hands
If you're fine with mouse1 and 2 being so low, then it's good. But for me, coming from g703 (same clicks height as on gpx) - it's too low, had to change from relaxed fingers on m1,2 to slightly aggressive and my wrist hurts.
3:21 how is this not a deal breaker? those inconsistencies should NOT be found in a mouse of this level
I don't think you quite understand what this means
It’s just time it’s not like the mouse is aiming not where you intended. To the creator, can you make a follow up with 8k dongle? Thank you
u2 or sora v2？
Completely different shapes
is it better than superlight?
any mouse is better than the superlight...
licking out sora v2. No comments on massive post travel on side buttons
No problems with "massive" post-travel whatsoever.
Don’t know why they couldn’t just say it was 40g instead of slapping 39g everywhere, it doesn’t even matter that much so the fact they did that rubs me the wrong way
the mousewheel is sadly ass in longevity. every apex legends gamer should avoid this scrollwheel. it's a dust-proofed ttc gold and i had to replace mine on the pulsar x2 mini (latest badge) after half a year. i'd recommend to watch out for dust-proof kailh red scrollwheels, they have way better longevity.
What exactly happens with the scroll wheel that affects apex gameplay? Is it misreading inputs?
ive heard the opticals are heavy and hard to spam compared to the gpx1 mechanical, is this true
nah. Razer v2 and v3 opticals are light as omrons. and these are omron opticals, theyre light as mechanical omrons too.
lamzu atlantis mini 4k o this sora V2 idk what to choose
What play style do you play though? Relax claw or agro claw it all depends on ur holding/comfortable holding the mouse (sorry bad grammar)
if the sora 4k and v2 are so good then why there are no pro players using them?
Tenz is using the v2...
sponsors, used to gpro,gpx since year, thats why you see before everyone used to ec2 - fk2 and what now ? massive pro players using gpx
What does changing the lift off distance do to battery life?
Nothing
@@hausgaming well I found out your wrong. I changed it from 1 to 2 and I’m getting way more out of a charge. Like 30 percent more. Should it affect it I don’t know but it did on my copy.
I believe the x/y count vs time you measured at 3:21 might be flawed. It doesn't look like some outliers, it looks like a complete sensor malfunction. I have a sora v2 and its sensor performes just as good as a normal 3395 constantly. (And at 3:21 for the left graph - razer mouse, I encoutered a type of bug when using mousetester and click "mouse data" - "collect" before, it was 1k pulling rate but somehow downsized to the kind of pulling rate in the graph - 125hz I think, and it looked just like the left garph. That bug might cause some inaccurate results - pulling unstability which results very bad looking x/y count graph.)
Edit: some mistypes. And 1/3.
And in addition I think another possible cause to this result might be there is no sensor ring feet beneath. I googled the function of the sensor ring before, the ring is there to keep the sensor a minimum distance from the pad. If the sensor is too close to the pad, it would malfunction which results it stop tracking. So if the mouse is pressed too much when tested, it might cause tracking problems.
(3/3)
Those tests have been reran multiple times, the sensor ring would not cause such difference on the pad that I am currently using. I've seen similar graphs with other mice in the past. But as I said, you do not need to worry about it
@@hausgaming Ok, thanks for the reply! The reason I wrote this is because the left graph is typical 125Hz looking. Since it's a comparsion so I presume it was running at 1000hz(Also when at 125hz, motion sync doesn't make quite difference, on/off xcount graphs looks basicly identical. There is no point showing motion sync with 125 hz.), then it reminds me of the bug I experienced as my comment describes which would cause screwed mouse data. Well since you have tested it multiple times, just forget what I comment I guess. Love your content!
Only one
"I did not expect a 40g mouse with top tier internals, good QC and implementation to be this good" lmao
tenz
just send this to india already!
First one
dude i know u need to eat.. but stop talking like 4k and 8k matters. it really doesnt and only kids born after 2000 missed the gaming days think this is true lmao
I not addicted........🫣