How the Pro's sharpen a chainsaw

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  • How to sharpen a chainsaw with a hand file. And also with an electric bench grinder. The we cover what is a raker, gullet, depth guide and tooth.
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  • @MrEmarioyoshibro
    @MrEmarioyoshibro 10 місяців тому +68

    I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.

  • @Jonathan-hq8od
    @Jonathan-hq8od 3 роки тому +56

    This is a great video with Tanner (orange shirt). He really knows his stuff. Everyone else needs to stop interrupting him and just let him teach.

    • @RGD-Repairs
      @RGD-Repairs 2 роки тому +3

      knows his stuff? LOOOOL
      Chainsaw sharpening Basics... When you use the file to move the chain, to get to your next tooth...
      You put the file BEHIND the cutter and pull the chain forwards on the bar...
      Pushing it backwards, like in the video, Is not the safe way to do it..
      If your finger slips off the file, Or the file slips off the tooth when pushing it backwards, Your fingers / hand can come into contact with the very sharp part of the tooth..
      Sliding it the correct way.. FORWARDS... if the file slips, Your finger hit the back of the tooth.. The non-sharp part...

    • @Golo1949
      @Golo1949 2 роки тому +4

      I felt like telling the other guy to go away and leave (orange shirt) alone.

    • @Rufio1975
      @Rufio1975 2 роки тому +4

      @@RGD-Repairs
      Aren't you humble.

  • @pauljenson8042
    @pauljenson8042 7 місяців тому +4

    The best sharpening video I've ever seen. Speaking from 40 years of experience.

  • @ironjohn5914
    @ironjohn5914 Рік тому +2

    I will now sharpen my own blades. Thankyou for the knowledge.

    • @mattwaters6987
      @mattwaters6987 2 місяці тому

      Yep. Me too. Gonna buy the correct round file and depth gauge too.

  • @philsheridan9223
    @philsheridan9223 5 років тому +5

    I bought a Homelite Lil Red with a 14" bar to cut a large branch a storm broke off an old maple tree. When I was getting ready to pay for it, a decent guy asked me if I had a sharpening kit for it. I didn't know what he was talking about. He was a customer like me but took me back where the files were and showed me a book with kits including one for my saw. Real nice guy. I read the operators manual several times until I got the nerve to start the saw and cut the branch into 12" pieces. I haven't used it since because I knew I didn't what the hell I was doing. I'll be re-watching your site and taking notes! Thanks for the great video!

  • @JoeBob79569
    @JoeBob79569 3 роки тому +7

    Really great video. Having several different lads just chipping in with their own preferred methods, and just chatting, covers everything really well.
    Much better than some guy in a studio who spends a week writing his script to get it "perfect".

  • @elebeu
    @elebeu Рік тому +2

    I bought the electric chain sharpener at Harbor Freight for about $25 ten years ago. It is similar to the Oregon machine while obviously lower quality. It has always provided an accurate grind and sharp chain and paid for itself many times over.

  • @caseymoats5665
    @caseymoats5665 2 роки тому +2

    Just bought a chain sharpener and watched 20 videos and this is definitely the best one !!

  • @621norby
    @621norby 2 роки тому +3

    One of the better how to sharpen a chain videos I've seen. I can actually take the information and apply it to my reality and be better at the end of the day.

  • @jimpikul8551
    @jimpikul8551 5 років тому +35

    Thank you for doing this. Never knew about checking rakes on the chain. Learned a new thing today. Kudos to the gents for show us the way!

    • @jacobmckee5862
      @jacobmckee5862 5 років тому +1

      It took me years to realize that the depth gauge needed filing.

    • @jameschester3986
      @jameschester3986 4 роки тому +3

      Won’t cut if it’s too high

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 4 роки тому +2

      Lol, I worked with some tools that thought the rakers aka depth gauges never needed filing.. Took me months to finally convince a couple that they do in fact need to get filed down as the chain is filed.. Amateurs they were!!

    • @michaelphelps5097
      @michaelphelps5097 4 роки тому +2

      It will make all the difference in how your saw cuts.

    • @alexandercopeland2849
      @alexandercopeland2849 Рік тому

      If they are too low like to kick back, so you're new to it use file gage, on both raker and tooth.

  • @tvtomass
    @tvtomass Рік тому +2

    I'm grateful I found this video. We've been working it out on our own and as it turns out, we've been doing everything that was explained in this video. Thank you guys for the instructions and the nomenclature refresher course.

  • @rosewoodsteel6656
    @rosewoodsteel6656 3 роки тому +9

    Good job guys!! I have been lazy and just purchased a new chain every time one got dull. I'll wait for a nice rainy day and see how many of them I can sharpen up. That will give me more $$ for the next beer run.

    • @happycamper6352
      @happycamper6352 3 роки тому +1

      Just a tip - don't do too many by hand in one session, especially if they're long chains. The first few turn out great, then the quality of work suffers. I don't know if it's fatigue, eyestrain, or whatever, but everyone I have ever cut with has given me that advice. Any time I have gotten cocky and ignored that advise to sharpen many in one sitting, I ended up with lousy chains. Also, don't forget to dress the bar too. You don't need to do it as often but it needs to be done. It's beyond the scope of this video so I don't blame them for not mentioning it, but search to learn this often forgotten step if you aren't already doing it.

    • @HQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQ
      @HQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQ 2 роки тому

      They were wrong about the tooth size. You can file one more than the other and it'll work. Just take your depth gauges down proper way. I've done that many times and it works very well, and i'm not "professional". If you want to know more, check Buckin' Billy Ray videos, i learned from him and he really knows what he's talking about!

  • @derek5463
    @derek5463 5 років тому +103

    I run a tree business and sharpen a lot of chains. It’s always good to see how others do the most basic chores. I think one finger Frankie should do a chainsaw safety video!!!

  • @Hicaliber1
    @Hicaliber1 5 років тому +28

    I was equally informed and bewildered...

  • @rltkktlr
    @rltkktlr 5 років тому +24

    Great video! At least for those of us that want to learn! I realize there are many techniques, but appreciate the best practices as I feel they were trying to explain. Thanks. Yes more of these types of videos would be great! Like the idea of “from the experts”.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      Appreciate the comments, thank you !

  • @paulwharton1850
    @paulwharton1850 5 років тому +16

    The 2 guys gave some really great advice - I learnt a lot.
    Many thanks.......all the way from London !

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      Thanks Paul and happy that you got some useful info!!

    • @johnmassengill2253
      @johnmassengill2253 4 роки тому +1

      we dont learnt mate....no wonder you guys lost the war

    • @OrdnanceTV
      @OrdnanceTV 3 роки тому

      @@johnmassengill2253 "Learnt" is actually the original proper English form of "Learned".

  • @mfsolutions
    @mfsolutions 5 років тому +4

    Ran a saw a long while ago... this is how I did it hand held file flipping the saw to do the opposite side...as he said every tank of gas and rakers every 3 or 4 sharpening. The thickness of the chip is governed by the top of the tooth to raker. if your chips are getting thin and papery you know to lower your rakers... always use a raker file WITHOUT teeth on the sides. You can screw up your cutting teeth if you use a regular flat file that has teeth on the edge. Great video with excellent explanation so important to pass this knowledge on.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +1

      Appreciate the great comments, thanks Gregory!

  • @alexsmall6850
    @alexsmall6850 5 років тому +21

    Good demo. I learnt to hand file when I started using a chainsaw a few years ago. I still use my guides to help get the angle right. Now I can sharpen my chain better than using a local centre and to mention a lot cheaper. Retouching the chain when working makes such a difference. A sharp chain is a safe one.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +3

      Thanks Alex

    • @torreyintahoe
      @torreyintahoe Рік тому

      learned

    • @missingremote4388
      @missingremote4388 11 місяців тому

      Ive only wver hand filed mine. But never ground down the depth gauge
      going to try again

  • @PatriotPaulUSA
    @PatriotPaulUSA 3 роки тому +1

    Nice Job! It showed us the basics of chainsaw sharpening. You gotta start somewhere, and having pros that do it all the time, show us, is a good place to start.

  • @KJfreshh69
    @KJfreshh69 2 роки тому +4

    Love the video! Glad to see your channel always has everything I need. Such a variety of things! Just bought my first stihl yesterday. Just wanting to learn everything I can about it

  • @AdamA-wg1ko
    @AdamA-wg1ko 5 років тому +24

    I'm qualified to say this was a decent sharpening video... It covered the parts of the chain and the common best practices. Good job Stanley.

    • @travisdavis3974
      @travisdavis3974 5 років тому +1

      Who do you suck off

    • @AdamA-wg1ko
      @AdamA-wg1ko 5 років тому +1

      @@travisdavis3974 Giving credit where it's due there jimbo. When you grow up you'll learn everyone's sucking someone else off lol

    • @AdamA-wg1ko
      @AdamA-wg1ko 5 років тому +3

      @john blackthorn No? lol Not good enough for you? lol ok Then please by all means make a better video showing us your "better" methods. I'm really interested to see how you do it better and how that translates to the thousands of people who will be sharpening chains.

    • @xpeeriments6452
      @xpeeriments6452 5 років тому

      Please provide qualifications

    • @AdamA-wg1ko
      @AdamA-wg1ko 5 років тому +2

      @@xpeeriments6452 My family collectively has like 100 years of tree work experience between us. Although I'm sure that's not gonna be good enough for some of you fucktards.

  • @philflip1963
    @philflip1963 4 роки тому +8

    Good video, it's one thing to explain how to do something but even better to explain why!

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable 5 років тому +364

    How to find a nail in a tree: put a new chain on your saw, start cutting.

    • @rustymullins6623
      @rustymullins6623 5 років тому +13

      Mike Sokolow never fails! Lol!

    • @justine4508
      @justine4508 5 років тому +10

      My brother just bought a new saw and his second cut BANG right into a 3/8 chain in the middle of the tree 😂 he was pissed... Good thing I Know how to file on the spot

    • @chrise3801
      @chrise3801 4 роки тому +2

      Lol of course

    • @destinynoon
      @destinynoon 4 роки тому +4

      hahahahah...I hate that this is true

    • @reginaldrandolph4787
      @reginaldrandolph4787 4 роки тому +5

      You ain't NEVER Lied!!!!!!!!

  • @wayradbrad139
    @wayradbrad139 2 роки тому +1

    I really enjoy the repetition/monotony of chain sharpening by hand. Like reloading. It's therapeutic.

  • @doogiehowser78
    @doogiehowser78 3 роки тому +3

    doing the rakers more regularly was a good reminder , i must get me one of the new stihl hand files that do the teeth and the rakers simultaneously

  • @Dewshon-Mandick
    @Dewshon-Mandick 3 роки тому +6

    This was pretty interesting. I've been running saws my whole life and the one thing I've never mastered was sharpening the chain. I had no idea that the takers needed to be filed down that's probably where I have been going wrong. Keep these videos gping things like this can make a big difference for DIY people like me.

    • @kyyurtman1416
      @kyyurtman1416 3 роки тому +1

      A sharp tooth is exactly that. It doesnt matter if one tooth took 5 passes and the next tooth only took 3 passes. Unless you enjoy buying chains. Your not going to cut crooked if all the teeth arnt the same length, your not going to remove less wood either. Counting strokes is and old school wives tale. But by all means,keep the same edge profile and angle.
      Stop counting. KISS And yes file your rakers. Also Check out Buckin Billy Ray Smith for more wood cutting wisdom and a touch of axe throwing.

  • @tomnekuda3818
    @tomnekuda3818 5 років тому +5

    Great video.....good close-ups and explanations. Thanks!

  • @scbane
    @scbane 3 роки тому +1

    Won't lie, that Stihl sharpening tool has saved my life. After years of hand filing chains, bought one of the Stihl tools at Ace. So nice.

  • @kevinamack6
    @kevinamack6 5 років тому +8

    Great video. Very informative. I learned a lot. Just a home owner but now understand how the chain really works to cut wood.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      Thank you Kevin glad it was helpful !

    • @peterthorn6841
      @peterthorn6841 5 років тому

      The lazy person just use a Oregon Powersharp tool.

    • @thomasobrien8347
      @thomasobrien8347 5 років тому

      Sharpening chainsaw

  • @peterfoster8004
    @peterfoster8004 5 років тому +10

    Really useful video. Michael Dougfir makes some valid points but I took loads of info from the video.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      Great to hear that Peter, thank you for viewing

  • @larryedwards1833
    @larryedwards1833 4 роки тому +1

    Great job on how to sharpen a chain on a chainsaw I will be using these methods for sharpening the chain on my own saw. Keep the great videos like this coming. Thanks

  • @bignoseharry6561
    @bignoseharry6561 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your patience, humor, and your excellent instruction. People seem to get hung up on terminology, sometimes. Just remember bar and chain. Thanks again guys. Drop them. Limb them. Buck them. Then you either sell them at a specified length. Or split them. Pile them. Or stack'em. Wood warms you more than just the fireplace. But that's the best time. Hahaha

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much! Really appreciate the comments !

  • @ThePTBRULES
    @ThePTBRULES 5 років тому +4

    These are the videos that I enjoy, I miss the podcasts you use to have!

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      Thank you, appreciate that!

  • @adrianspence7015
    @adrianspence7015 4 роки тому +3

    Really useful always good to see how professionals do the maintenance. Thanks

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому

      So glad ya liked it! Thanks Adrian 😀

  • @Gsquared_08
    @Gsquared_08 5 років тому +2

    I shoot and edit videos for cable network TV and that video right there was more informative and well produced than 95% of the videos that are produced with entire crews and production staff. Well done sir.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +1

      Really appreciate that , thank you !

  • @markj284
    @markj284 5 місяців тому

    I enjoy all of these videos on sharpening, helps pick up good tips. My go to is Buckin Billy ... Used to buy 3 new chains every year, now i have a life time of chains since learning how to sharpen. Grab the rifht file and learn, it will be the best feeling ever, plus it makes the work easier in the end. Good luck to all of the new chainsaw sharpeners.

  • @thetruevine7083
    @thetruevine7083 5 років тому +9

    Thanks guys that was great. We're professional tile Setters so this is really helpful. We're here in Georgia and after Hurricane Michael there is a ton of tree work that needs to be done.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +5

      Glad the video helped out and thank you !

  • @Word569
    @Word569 3 роки тому +5

    There are two things I suggest. For Stihl saws, I have to set the depth gauges a little lower than specs to get the chains to cut like new. Another issue is that if you use the suggested depth gauge setting tool for the chain, I found that you can't set the depth gauges as low as they should be because of the curve in the saw blade. Also, to prevent blueing of the cutters when using a grinding wheel, I suggest using Kool-Grind.

  • @taylerlabrum6319
    @taylerlabrum6319 3 роки тому

    Hey bro, dig the video. I’ve watched 5 other chainsaw sharpening videos and I didn’t learn half as much as I did with this one. Keep up the good work. 🤙

  • @gvndual84
    @gvndual84 2 роки тому

    This is the best video I’ve seen on this. Assumed nothing and explained everything. Thanks!

  • @jeffparks4958
    @jeffparks4958 5 років тому +5

    Loved it, so few know these tips to give to someone.

  • @ricksmash8080
    @ricksmash8080 5 років тому +30

    I don't care what it's called. I'm going to sharpen my own chains from now on. Thanks for the video Stan!

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +5

      You're welcome Rick , thank you !

    • @danielsmith8659
      @danielsmith8659 4 роки тому +2

      You need to learn . Lots of small engine places won’t even sharpen a chain anymore they’d rather just sell you a new one .

  • @lesstewart1026
    @lesstewart1026 4 роки тому +1

    hey there -I learnt something today...that depth gauge tooth is really important !! cheers guys

  • @63jeepj20
    @63jeepj20 2 роки тому

    Old video but i learned something. Ive been cutting wood since i was old enough to swing an axe. We used wood heat growing up in western Washington so we went through some wood. My dad always ran the saw and sharpened the chain though. Ive only sharpened a handful of times and had no idea the raker needed taken down. Makes perfect sense after looking at it.

  • @waynejourney1
    @waynejourney1 3 роки тому +3

    Can’t tell you how many chains I have tossed out because I had no clue on how to sharpen them.
    This gave me a much better understanding of the chain and how it works.
    Thanks everyone 👍👍

    • @curbappeal3397
      @curbappeal3397 3 роки тому

      Haha me too. I’ve been stockpiling dull chains for a hot minute now though. Got a sharpener from harbor freight, got plenty of practice material!

  • @bjorker40
    @bjorker40 5 років тому +6

    Been sharpening my own chains for many years now and I agree with these guys!

  • @ZZebidee
    @ZZebidee 3 роки тому

    Very useful video. Well done guys. This is the sort of instructional video that makes UA-cam the best program on the net. Thanks for doing it.

  • @dennisrockwell7834
    @dennisrockwell7834 4 роки тому +1

    I like this video on the proper way to sharpen a chain saw blade, I ask a person that boasted he was all-knowing about such matters I was told I bought the wrong brand of saw! I cut a maple, small one about 4" in diameter with a dull blade, then after sharpening according to how the pros sharpen a chainsaw blade ,i sailed right through a much larger maple with no problem at all. I also learned it's not the saw its the blade! I will not be buying another saw anytime soon. I already have 4 with dull blades, no more thanks to you! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EXCELLENT VIDEO

    • @nobodythatyouknow241
      @nobodythatyouknow241 2 роки тому

      It's a BAR not a BLADE! The CHAIN does the cutting. The BAR guides the CHAIN!

  • @daleboe8912
    @daleboe8912 4 роки тому +7

    I’ve had one of those gauges in my tool box for years and didn’t have a clue. Thanks hope I can find it now

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +2

      Good luck Dale, thanks !

    • @spencerlervik2083
      @spencerlervik2083 4 роки тому

      Who did you steal it from ? 😂

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 4 роки тому

      Might have helped if ya read the owners manual :)

    • @brendalux2462
      @brendalux2462 4 роки тому

      @@trevors8577 didn't have an owner manual. It was in my dad's tool box that I inherited. He had a lot of stuff that was a mystery to me.

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 4 роки тому

      @@brendalux2462 Yea, would have had to download the manual from the manufacturer. Most owners manuals get chucked in the recycle bin here after I've gone through them.

  • @corym.3580
    @corym.3580 4 роки тому +3

    It would be good to make a video about chainsaw bar maintenance, greasing the tip, dressing the sides of the bar, and closing the gap when it gets over worn. The video was great and had a lot of good info. I always count each swipe if you don't your saw will J-hook when cutting. Another good video I wish someone like Stan was around when I started out.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the suggestion Cory and thanks for being here watching !

  • @greenmarine5
    @greenmarine5 3 роки тому +2

    Some really good information, especially for beginners. Great video Dirt Monkey Thank You

  • @ghix
    @ghix 10 місяців тому

    Thank You!!!! The best video I have watched and learned from for sharpening chainsaw blades.

  • @jameschester3986
    @jameschester3986 4 роки тому +12

    I been free handing for years muscle memory is the key

    • @gushamilton5188
      @gushamilton5188 4 роки тому +2

      Learning to free hand is the easiest sharpening in my books. skill ive never lost

    • @LemonySnicket-EUC
      @LemonySnicket-EUC 3 роки тому

      Same here. Keep it sharp tank to tank. Now I'm running battery powered saws way more than I like to admit. So battery to battery. 🙂

  • @danmiller576
    @danmiller576 5 років тому +17

    Definitely a good video for someone that's trying to figure out how to sharpen a chain. One thing they missed tho is you don't sharpen the gullet but you do need to take out some gullet as you go back on the tooth because as you go and the tooth gets lower you need to take out some gullet to keep your sawdust capacity and your your tooth profile.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      Thanks for the comments Dan and thanks for watching !

    • @mikekeen9710
      @mikekeen9710 5 років тому +2

      good call i feel there where some things missed but in saying that how much info do you give the newbie to start with. logger of some 25yrs

    • @danmiller576
      @danmiller576 5 років тому +2

      @@mikekeen9710 yeah same here just mentioned that one because he specifically said not to sharpen the gullet. I have been cutting and hand filing for twenty years and there's definitely a lot more to it than what they mentioned. It's always interesting to here from fellow loggers, good luck and be safe.

  • @Bcuzimtan
    @Bcuzimtan 5 років тому

    Full proofing your videos at beginning with zoom and labels were a nice touch. I think it was more entertaining for me because I am a chainsaw carver.

  • @marktangney9467
    @marktangney9467 Рік тому +1

    Trying to learn how to do that myself and there's definitely an act for it great video

  • @troyelhard2684
    @troyelhard2684 5 років тому +9

    Stan, you are truly a master. Thank you for all your excellent content

  • @arcticbadger1
    @arcticbadger1 4 роки тому +3

    Great informative vid guys 👍🏻
    This has been a learning experience & will come in handy(no pun intended) 👋👍🏻

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +2

      Hey thanks ! Glad to help out

  • @rogerpalmer3522
    @rogerpalmer3522 5 років тому +1

    In my opinion, the best video on hand-filing on the internet. Well done!

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +1

      Thank you Roger !

    • @manlyadvice1789
      @manlyadvice1789 4 роки тому

      I hate to be "that guy" (only kinda), but Buckin' Billy Ray has way better advice on sharpening. There are so many things to point out, I won't start. Just look up Buckin' Billy Ray and you'll see.

  • @Nick-gi6ym
    @Nick-gi6ym 4 роки тому +2

    Great learning video I needed that thanks. I’m gearing up for plowing.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +1

      Great to hear, thanks Nick!

  • @anthemoftheheart9497
    @anthemoftheheart9497 4 роки тому +6

    Thanks for that, I've been cocking it up till now!

  • @timothyturigliatto7853
    @timothyturigliatto7853 5 років тому +11

    quite interesting, i learned more than what i used to do when sharpening a chain

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      That's great timothy, thank you !

  • @agri-lifeorganicfarm2466
    @agri-lifeorganicfarm2466 3 роки тому

    Great job; best saw blade sharpening video I've seen.

  • @panman1224
    @panman1224 3 роки тому

    Excellent video! Great detail. Now I don't have to keep buying so many chains. Thank you!

  • @ultimatelawncaretyleralbre688
    @ultimatelawncaretyleralbre688 5 років тому +6

    I use a harbor freight chain grinder works great best 30 bucks I spent

  • @teddybhear3766
    @teddybhear3766 4 роки тому +6

    Harbor freight sells a chain sharpener for 35 bucks, been using it for 2 years and it still works great. No need to blow 600 on a grinder.

    • @patrickflorine9211
      @patrickflorine9211 4 роки тому

      Files or grinder

    • @teddybhear3766
      @teddybhear3766 4 роки тому +2

      @@patrickflorine9211 grinder. Just like the one in this video only cheaper quality, but it works great

    • @barry4134
      @barry4134 4 роки тому +1

      Ive been using my Harbor freight sharpener for 5 years. Still going strong!

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 4 роки тому

      The HF one is a little flexible for pros but adequate for someone who doesn't use it a lot.

  • @mypony891
    @mypony891 5 років тому +1

    Nice video guys, thanks. Learned more from this one than any other I've watched.

  • @Daniel7.62
    @Daniel7.62 4 роки тому +2

    I learned a lot from this video and I will be using what I learned here in the future. Thanks

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +1

      Love to hear that, thank you !

  • @niickogrant2375
    @niickogrant2375 5 років тому +8

    Great video learned a lot I’m gonna put this to use when I’m sharpening saws for our firewood business

  • @bbdmaggot
    @bbdmaggot 4 роки тому +8

    Buckin' Billy Ray Smith will show you how it's done

    • @bethechange4934
      @bethechange4934 3 роки тому

      ... wtih nothing but his front teeth!
      Seriously though, anybody who can pull this off ua-cam.com/video/BhWwl6XYpQ0/v-deo.html ( 26:00 until the trees fall ) deserves some respect. Dude knows a little bit about chainsawing.

  • @peterwormald7114
    @peterwormald7114 4 роки тому +1

    Good video, I bought a lower spec grinder from Lidle here in the U.K. However, I know the basics of blades now, cheers you guys👌🏻

    • @SeeMooreVids
      @SeeMooreVids 4 роки тому

      Peter Wormald I heard the UK makes everyone with a chainsaw take a course and be licensed, commercial or not. So how is it you have any questions about op and mtce"?

  • @mikejones6974
    @mikejones6974 3 роки тому

    We just got done with a major ice storm here in okc. I work at a large mower sales and service. I bet ive sharpen 5 or 6 hundred chains. I felt the need to understand it better. Ive been a mechanic for 20 years. Thanks this was helpful

  • @jimstevens849
    @jimstevens849 5 років тому +11

    You can get a raker height file guide that has a .025 for hardwood and .035 for softwood as well as a file guide to hold your file high on the tooth being filed to get the optimum cutting angle. The file guides also have at least 2 different angle markings for filing the tooth.
    Different chain manufacturers use different angles for different style of chains.

    • @desotofiresweep58
      @desotofiresweep58 4 роки тому +2

      The different depth rake height is for the type of chain you're using, .025 depth is for semi chisel low Kickback chain, AKA Johnny homeowner / Rental customer.
      .035 is 4 full chisel chain

  • @teddybhear3766
    @teddybhear3766 4 роки тому +16

    On raker depth, you can actually use the grinder to bring down the rakers simply by setting the depth then running the
    Rakers slowly through the grinding wheel to shave off a small amount in each one.

    • @williambrigman2224
      @williambrigman2224 4 роки тому

      teddy bhear that is true

    • @lauramurray6690
      @lauramurray6690 2 роки тому +1

      Yes and no it's a different size grinder desk than the grinder you use to sharpen the teeth usually the grinder for the 404 teeth

  • @lucksnation4948
    @lucksnation4948 2 роки тому +2

    Very educational!!! Two thumbs up!! Always ask the Pros...yes indeed...that is by the way, the folks whose livelihood depends on their skill / trade. Great job!!!

  • @mderline4412
    @mderline4412 Рік тому

    Knowing how to do something, and being able to explain it to someone else, is truly two different skillsets. This video was helpful to me. If Stan had done in two takes, it probably would have been much clearer.
    You look at the comments here, and you can see many have suffered at even uglier explanations of this subject. Stihl, or some other manufacturer, should come out with a clear, concise, step by step explanation of this neccessary skill, in an equally clear and legible 20 minute video! We have the knowledge and the technology!

  • @JonGretarB
    @JonGretarB 4 роки тому +9

    Mmm. Pretty sure heating the metal to a blue color (tempering) would soften the hardening of the steel. It takes WAY more heat (pretty much red hot) and then suddenly cooling it (quenching) to harden it. Cool vid apart from that.

    • @connorcoyle6592
      @connorcoyle6592 3 роки тому

      I don't know about that - if you run a saw without enough bar oil or with the chain set too tight the edge of the bar will turn blue on you.

    • @dennisthemenace57
      @dennisthemenace57 2 роки тому

      No, overheating the tooth makes it very difficult to sharpen with a file later. And those pink wheels are terrible for doing it. CBN wheels don't do it (unless you are an idiot) but are expensive

    • @jeffclark6202
      @jeffclark6202 2 роки тому

      Mr Metalurgy.
      I was going to make the same point, so I get a portion of the credit.

  • @haroldb.vigilsr.7803
    @haroldb.vigilsr.7803 5 років тому +3

    Great video!! My Great grandfather, Grandfather and Father were loggers and Saw Mill owners. My Dad told me that's how his dad taught him to sharpen a chain. That was since way back in the 60's. I love good educational stuff about how good hard work is done. Thanks for the video and God Bless you all.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +3

      Thank you for the comments Harold!

  • @jameswalker8858
    @jameswalker8858 4 роки тому +1

    wow i learned a lot, i was filing correct i just didn't know the rest of what you put out!

  • @user-bw8dz2tw7b
    @user-bw8dz2tw7b 11 місяців тому

    good job, these guys know what their doing.

  • @jdobad2
    @jdobad2 5 років тому +10

    Love this kind of video, very good info. Please do more on battery operated equipment. 👍

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому

      I will keep in mind, thank you !

    • @jdobad2
      @jdobad2 5 років тому

      Thank you. I run my own small lawn company and I use battery operated blowers and weedeaters it is easier than hualing 2 types of gas around and I am looking to upgrade to some new stuff next year and I trust your reviews and your honesty about the things you review and can you give updates on what you have already used if you still use them or do they just sit because you don`t use them because there not as good as gas powered equipment. Thanks again JD

  • @stevedickens8162
    @stevedickens8162 5 років тому +3

    cheers....very informative...they charge $25 au at local stil dealer to sharpen up blunt chains so this is gold.

    • @scientist100
      @scientist100 5 років тому +2

      that's the cost of a new one

    • @thomastolson2057
      @thomastolson2057 5 років тому

      @@scientist100 right most I've seen is usually$0.25 a tooth

    • @offroadaussie
      @offroadaussie 5 років тому

      For 25 you would be a lot better buying a new one. In my opinion you getting ripped off and you should be able to get it sharpened cheaper elsewhere, what I have done is look at a whole lot of sharpening videos where there sharpening with hand files and I’m getting real good at it, practice makes perfect, good luck mate

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 роки тому

      I guess they charge 25 because they really don't want to be spending their time sharpening chains. I mean take a hint.

  • @Tailspin80
    @Tailspin80 Рік тому +1

    I was sharpening chains for years before I tried using a guide. It makes such a difference in keeping the angles to 30 deg. Without the guide I have a tendency to making the angle more acute over time and inconsistent from tooth to tooth. Getting a consistent 30 deg on every tooth makes the chain cut as well as when it was new and also makes it last longer (I.e can be sharpened more times before the teeth get too short). Maybe the pros can do it by hand but for everyone else I recommend buying a guide. They are cheap enough.

  • @newgeneration3496
    @newgeneration3496 2 роки тому

    Great video, most Iv seen they don’t explain much and u find yourself watching someone file the blade from 4ft away with 0 info. This was great to explain.

  • @Bradwick1
    @Bradwick1 5 років тому +5

    Stihl makes a hand tool with a combination flat file and 2 round files that sharpens the tooth and takes the raker down at the same time. It also has a bar guide for the correct angle. Hand sharpening is a bit more tedious but the chain stays sharper longer in my experience. Grinder may work faster but it takes off more metal and shortens the chain life sooner.

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 7 місяців тому

      Plus they over heat the cut edge
      Hand type is best and the new shitl is great but to high price

    • @Bradwick1
      @Bradwick1 7 місяців тому

      @@philliphall5198 Worth it to grind both blade and guide in one pass. Got one and never went back.

    • @poman8772
      @poman8772 6 місяців тому

      Yeah the new Stihl hand sharpeners are really nice and doing a quick touch up is a easy thing to do! To me they are worth the price!

  • @Stateproperty30
    @Stateproperty30 4 роки тому +4

    How often you sharpen also depends a lot on the type of wood you're cutting. Ash, pine and other soft woods you can cut for days, even weeks if you're careful where cutting oak/cherry etc It's probably going to need sharpened every truck load or at least daily. The most important thing when cutting a log on the ground, do not let the chain touch the dirt. One quick oops can turn a razor sharp chain throwing big curly kerfs into a chain that throws tiny sawdust and smokes. Nails and even knots in a log can do this too but the #1 thing I see guys doing cutting logs on the ground is letting the chain contact the dirt.

    • @nobodythatyouknow241
      @nobodythatyouknow241 2 роки тому

      Exactly. You don't have to file as often if you keep it out of the dirt. Tree bark also traps a lot of grit. Dirty wood bad for chain.

    • @alexandercopeland2849
      @alexandercopeland2849 Рік тому

      I trained my self on an old sp125 McCulloch 38" bar, if you dont touch ground you can cut with any saw with out touching. That saw weighed close to 30-35 ibs.

  • @Mojo32
    @Mojo32 Рік тому

    Great instructional video! Thank you!

  • @splitsandpens
    @splitsandpens 2 роки тому

    Great video. Like safety glasses, safe raker size explanation.

  • @ClayBlasdel44
    @ClayBlasdel44 4 роки тому +9

    i appreciate the close-up views. They didn't mention the angle line engraved on every tooth

    • @Panellll
      @Panellll 4 роки тому +4

      Yes they did

    • @qjarman7753
      @qjarman7753 4 роки тому +1

      Yes they did mention that

    • @brettblack7049
      @brettblack7049 3 роки тому

      I didn't hear it either, but if the guys said they did...
      They are called witnesses marks by many of the guys I know, they are not on all chains, but most. Also many chains have them on the sideplate to help you to get the correct hook/profile.

  • @lightningdriver81
    @lightningdriver81 4 роки тому +3

    Really great job, dudes, thanks. (Just subscribed and shared)

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +1

      I appreciate that, thanks for the sub!

  • @brownster1979
    @brownster1979 Рік тому

    Gracias . That was exactly the instruction I was looking for.

  • @tonyrice3919
    @tonyrice3919 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks guys ! I'm a newcomer and have to learn this.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +1

      Welcome! Thanks for watching Tony !

  • @OffgridSecrets
    @OffgridSecrets 5 років тому +6

    Thanks for the tips. Good info. Too many videos on youtube teach nothing. Thank you for being useful!

  • @chamness964
    @chamness964 4 роки тому +50

    "It's not a blade it's a bar and chain"

    • @patrickwren3879
      @patrickwren3879 4 роки тому +1

      I cut over hundred ranks season there is a easier way

    • @trevors8577
      @trevors8577 4 роки тому +6

      @OldPossum The truly intelligent will call it what it is, a bar and a chain. The only blade on a chainsaw is the fan blades on the flywheel...

    • @kxmrock
      @kxmrock 4 роки тому +1

      @@trevors8577 lol

    • @bignoseharry6561
      @bignoseharry6561 4 роки тому +1

      @OldPossum
      Yeah the terminology hangs some people up on many issues in life.

    • @btech581
      @btech581 4 роки тому +1

      @@trevors8577 calling it a blade, and saying alltimers instead of Alzheimers pisses me off!!!

  • @mfsolutions
    @mfsolutions 5 років тому +2

    I was very interested by Tanner's comment. He shows how experience is the best teacher IF you think about what you are doing. Most people know that when you grind hardened steel and it turns blue you have lost its heat treatment and it will be softer and not hold its edge. But Tanner says it becomes harder as well! How does that happen? Well he is bang on... heat treatment of steel involves quenching and that locks the carbon particles in place uniformly stressing the steel, when you grind too quickly you heat it and this allows the carbon to move "relaxing the stress" However, if you have tool steel, Chromium and Molybdenum form very hard carbides. These carbides are best when small. When you heat the steel by grinding the carbides grow bigger but they do not strengthen the steel just mess up your file since they are harder than the file. Great observation Tanner!

  • @thatbubbleguy
    @thatbubbleguy 3 роки тому +1

    Hugely informative! Thanks!

  • @derekhilty6682
    @derekhilty6682 5 років тому +4

    You should show a video on the new stihl 2 in 1 file I love it

    • @themotocooler
      @themotocooler 5 років тому

      I have one and it blows these old ways out of the water.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому

      Thanks for the suggestion Derek

    • @KennysTreeRemoval
      @KennysTreeRemoval 5 років тому

      Those are good until you hit metal and damage a few teeth, you will never get that chain to cut properly again with this tool, you have to go back to old school hand filling to achieve that.

    • @galehess6676
      @galehess6676 5 років тому

      YES Sir! It's 2019, time to lose the slow file tools. Both our Stihl 2 in 1 files, .325 for the Stihls and a 3/8" for the Husq and Dolmar 7900, are LEGIT!!! I can out produce our cheap harbor freight machine, and do a better job without de-hardening (overheating) and shave off less metal, so they last longer. By the way, Oregon is pronounced "organ," it's said pretty quick. The video just got to the machine sharpening section, and the 2 in 1 is definitely a little faster, you can just flip it and hit every tooth as you go around once, rather than twice. This was a pretty good video. Like that you're bringing in other pros! Thanks to those guys, too!

  • @Alexi7666
    @Alexi7666 5 років тому +18

    Easy to get long curly chips if you're cutting pine. Elm and hickory are another story.

    • @nautitard
      @nautitard 5 років тому +2

      Then you're supposed to file the raker less and have it chip off less and not expect the same kind of shavings?

    • @offroadaussie
      @offroadaussie 5 років тому +1

      So true you would never get long curly chips from hardwood

  • @STLTHMC
    @STLTHMC Рік тому

    I trust Tanner - Good job explaining execution expert. Great video Ya'll. Thanks to Wes and Tanner for demonstrating their trade expertise. Thank you Stanley for sharing the production skills.

  • @fourdaughterstransport5212
    @fourdaughterstransport5212 5 років тому +2

    Thank you stan at least now u kniw what i am doing wrong
    More maintenance videos on power equipmwnt always appreciated

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  5 років тому +2

      Will do! Thank you for watching !