It's that easy huh dammit man why did that idea not come to me ? Lol and it is bore scope ? Not boroscope as it's pronounced by Kenny I have only used one half dozen times but never actually knew the technical name for it I said hey lemme borrow your camera brah ..
May or may not be worth fixing. Good job find the problem Ken. Don't burn yourself out trying to get videos out. Post them when you have interesting stuff at whatever time you feel like. You and your family are top priority.
Pine Hollow Diagnostics had the same exact thing on a Prius and it was a head gasket that would only leak after the engine was warm. Pressure test when cold did not leak, but leaked after engine was hot. Ivan replaced the head gasket and it fixed the problem.
I'd say remove the head before pulling the trigger on a different engine. Btw my Lexus ct200h has the same engine. It also popped a HG according to the maintenance records that came with the car.
@@jfv65 If you do it yourself, I say yes and agree. If you are paying a mechanic, that is money towards a new engine. Remember that it is a hybrid and batteries are a small fortune. Just too many miles for all of that. How good is the tranny? Also the car has to be in perfect shape to even consider. That is my opinion, but the owner may have deep pockets and feel different.
It's almost always #2 and yes the engine temp matters, we probably replace atleast 5 engines this year, and our shop Prius is out back waiting for an engine LOL. Get it hot, pressure test over night and you will most likely see coolant in #2 in the morning. Good video and explanation! Usually high mile so we wont even bother pulling head. Find a used low mile and be done.
Glad I read this comment, because I was going to say the same thing. With the mileage on that car, I would not have even spent the money trying to fix it. It's ready for the junk yard. Why? It's amazing it lasted this long, Put a new engine in it, then a cell goes bad in the battery, or the tranny goes. Sometimes it's better to know when to say when.
Most likely just a head gasket. I work for a Toyota specialty shop and we do these all the time. Typically caused by clogged EGR passages creating high cylinder temperature.
It's a head gasket. Seen that exact symptom before. Very common in the Prius. I think book time is like 19 hours so it may not be worth it with that kind of mileage but it can be done in far less than that.
Kenny, Amazing. When I worked on these beasts, not even doctors had endoscopes. We had to take the engine apart. It does look sweaty down there. Hope the family is well.
Remember: the EGR passages in the intake are quite small. The cooled EGR condenses in the EGR passages in the intake until one or more becomes blocked. When that happens, the blocked cylinders get no EGR, and the still open ones get too much EGR. Also due to the fact that the engine periodically shuts down, things cool down, aggravating the condition. The EGR cooler becomes blocked as well. The 2010 to 2015 Prius does this quite a bit. Repair: This only applies when not leaking coolant past head gasket. Clean or replace EGR, (oven cleaner, and/or lye soak overnight), Remove and clean out intake manifold and EGR passages in the intake manifold, new intake gasket and Throttle body gasket, clean head intake port area, reassemble. If your losing coolant, that must be fixed first. Due to the engine shutting off so much, and the resulting temperature swings, the head gaskets suffer on these.
Scan car, pull cowl, unbolt and raise overflow bottle, leak down test the cylinder that has the most misfires, watch for air bubbles in the cooling system. If the vehicle has been driven a long period of time with the bad head gasket small chance either the block will be pitted between the cylinders and require decking or a bent rod due to hydro lock -very rare.
Thats the way i usually diag head gaskets on engines easy to get to the spark plugs. I work mainly on CDRJ vehicles. I let the engine get up to temp and then turn it off and let it sit. Come back with my 1080p 3 camera bore scope (vevor brand from amazon.. like $40). Ive delt with a lot of headgaskets leaking only when hot. Good call though,
Nice video. Might be a case where an articulating bore scope would be helpful. Someone had a video where you could watch a drop form at the junction of the top of the cylinder and the head. The drop would repeatedly grow and run down the cylinder.
I would think that is a great diagnosis, Kenny. With that high mileage, I would only replace the engine with another low-mileage unit, if the rest of the vehicle is good shape.
One my sons has 2015 Prius 250 thousand miles on it when he bought it he had it about a month when he engine blew up 45 hundred to get it fixed this was 3 years ago so far it still running.
My wife had a minivan once that kept dumping coolant into the oil. Pressure checked the cooling system and it held, but 10 minutes of driving and it was overheating. Turned out to be a crack in the head, that expanded when hot but sealed tight when cold.
Not worth fixing? That's a lot of miles. But it's up to the customer 😮 Guess you get to be the second opinion guy 😊. Hope you and Mrs Meg have a wonderful merry Christmas and as always sending y'all my best 🎉
I've never seen coolant leaking into a cylinder where it didn't clean the pistons to almost new condition unless it was cought super early. Looked like fuel to me. Possibly oil. I didn't notice the water drops. good catch. Coolant it is i guess.
Re the borescope - yes you can get more rigid spiral spring ones (bend to shape) but maybe for yours use a short tube in the spark plug well to guide the camera in. Great tools.
Likely to be gasket failure. These things are started by a traction type motor and will bend connecting rod. They need fixing on first signs of a problem otherwise is off to Eric.
The Car Care Nut, and many other channels, have often commented about Toyota’s Super Long Life coolant, and the implication the name conveys to Toyota owners. Namely, that the coolant never needs to be changed. I have a ‘12 Prius V. Toyota reinforced the whacky notion of a coolant that never needs to be changed by completely omitting a recommendation for service from the Recommended Service log book that they handed out to purchasers. My log book goes out to 120K miles with no mention of transmission or cooling system fluid service. Coolant becomes acidic with age and will eat away at the gummy substance on the HG, eventually causing a leak. A regular coolant tester won’t tell you anything about this. I bet a lot of Prius owners with high mileage have never flushed their coolant.
I had a Ford Escort 2 1/2 years ago that had a cracked head on cylinder no. 1 and I bought a bottle of K-Seal and dumped in the radiator and the owner drove the car a couple days and kept an eye on the antifreeze and it sealed up and he has been running it ever since and he has put 5000 miles on the car with no problems, it's worth a try and you can dump it in with the antifreeze, no need to drain it and fill with water!!!!
No. Just no. As a consumer to buy a few more weeks to get something else before scrapping it, maybe. As a mechanic, who makes repairs, NO. That is not a repair. That is pure laziness.
Would be helpful that now and in the future you put in the title make of the car , like this time Toyota Prius . So if somebody is looking for Toyota problems can find it . Also you would get more hits in the future .
@kadyszrybak6280 I will do that for sure. Mrs Wrenching hasn't caught this one yet so I'm going to hustle up & put the ymm in the title. Thank you! Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Would a cracked head or cylinder wall be caused by a manufacturer defect, poor preventative maintenance or just bad luck. BTW, glad you are back on your feet.
Personally, I wouldn't fix it. The rest of the car also has 350k on it. A new engine replacement would total the car. It would cost more than it's worth. Sometimes, you gotta know when to say goodbye. 😢
. . . You know, whoever thinks recessing spark plug holes so deeply is in any way a good idea clearly does not live in the real world and have to do real world things.
Bro you might need to put a little ---- around those holes easier to find that way .. its often difficult to get the camera in a spark plug hole you can ony see thru the camera i know all about plus the hole being not a lot bigger than the camera itself makes it even more challenging ok boroscope fine fine ill say it lol
@WrenchingWithKenny don't blame him refusing the job lots of miles put it to sleep. For some reason 20 years ago those jobs weren't a big deal , must be the extra ache's , pains & wrinkles.
Fishermen in the Caribbean Islands have some pretty ramshackle boats with very poor engines. A trick they use to fix water-jacket leaks is to add raw egg whites to the coolant when the engine is cold and then run the engine to heat it up. Apparently, the albumen works into the cracks and then cooks in place, sealing them. It seems like a wild idea, but they swear it works.
What sometimes works in a third world country where every penny is pinched out of necessity, and what a garage in a first world country can stand behind as a legitimate repair, are two very different things.
@@WrenchingWithKenny In most cases I think that is true. However, watching that video, I remembered that "fix" and thought to myself that if it were my 350k engine and it wasn't my daily driver, I'd probably give it a try just to see if it works. If the engine is junk as it stands, there isn't too much to lose.
Not the first time Ive seen this today. People who don’t listen and point out conditions that the channel points out. They are so clever they put in time stamps so we know how idiotic they are.
If you use a transmission funnel it makes getting bore scope easy to get into cylinders
It's that easy huh dammit man why did that idea not come to me ? Lol and it is bore scope ? Not boroscope as it's pronounced by Kenny I have only used one half dozen times but never actually knew the technical name for it I said hey lemme borrow your camera brah ..
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@sheerwillsurvival2064 that's awesome! You are brilliant. Thanks for the tech tip!!! Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
@@GlennManchester Thanks mate, I saw your comment yesterday and use borescope this morning. Funnel tip seriously work and simple. You are the MAN!
May or may not be worth fixing. Good job find the problem Ken. Don't burn yourself out trying to get videos out. Post them when you have interesting stuff at whatever time you feel like. You and your family are top priority.
Fix an engine with well over 300,000 miles, are you nuts?...
Maybe he wants to see if it will make 400,000
Pine Hollow Diagnostics had the same exact thing on a Prius and it was a head gasket that would only leak after the engine was warm. Pressure test when cold did not leak, but leaked after engine was hot. Ivan replaced the head gasket and it fixed the problem.
It's like throwing dice.
Ivan you must fix Toyota vehicle for vodka and cigarettes!!
@@GlennManchesteryes. Weektor, where is wodka!
I'd say remove the head before pulling the trigger on a different engine.
Btw my Lexus ct200h has the same engine. It also popped a HG according to the maintenance records that came with the car.
@@jfv65 If you do it yourself, I say yes and agree. If you are paying a mechanic, that is money towards a new engine. Remember that it is a hybrid and batteries are a small fortune. Just too many miles for all of that. How good is the tranny? Also the car has to be in perfect shape to even consider. That is my opinion, but the owner may have deep pockets and feel different.
Good to see you back, it means you're getting better. Hope Mrs. Wrenching is doing well.
I am! Thanks for your kind words. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Wow!! You are a great mechanical sleuth. Enjoyed this one alot!!
It's almost always #2 and yes the engine temp matters, we probably replace atleast 5 engines this year, and our shop Prius is out back waiting for an engine LOL. Get it hot, pressure test over night and you will most likely see coolant in #2 in the morning. Good video and explanation! Usually high mile so we wont even bother pulling head. Find a used low mile and be done.
Don’t get used engine, and other gamble. New short block and cylinder head, other 200k no issue!
@@ToolsSNAPON LOL, just go long block
Glad I read this comment, because I was going to say the same thing. With the mileage on that car, I would not have even spent the money trying to fix it. It's ready for the junk yard. Why? It's amazing it lasted this long, Put a new engine in it, then a cell goes bad in the battery, or the tranny goes. Sometimes it's better to know when to say when.
@ it depends on what the customer can afford.
@@jthonn lol, 2ZR doesn't offer long block!
I'm glad the Borescope works for you. They do come in handy.
@mckinleygoetz9855 thanks again. I appreciate your gift. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Most likely just a head gasket. I work for a Toyota specialty shop and we do these all the time. Typically caused by clogged EGR passages creating high cylinder temperature.
great to see you back to work Kenny
If the engine gets changed, consider sending the engine core to Eric at “I Do Cars” so he can do an autopsy on UA-cam for us.
Eric does some great stuff. He is Saturday must see tv at my house.
Why should he do that? If he wants to buy it let him pay for it and the shipping.
Yes!!! Let Eric tear it down and use old blue.
@ Well yeah, duh. But its only value is scrap value. Of course Eric should pay for it and shipping.
Kenny, I second this suggestion!
It's a head gasket. Seen that exact symptom before. Very common in the Prius. I think book time is like 19 hours so it may not be worth it with that kind of mileage but it can be done in far less than that.
@johnclark the customer said no way to the repair with that many miles. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Kenny, Amazing. When I worked on these beasts, not even doctors had endoscopes. We had to take the engine apart. It does look sweaty down there. Hope the family is well.
I hope that you are feeling better, can't wait for more videos.
Remember: the EGR passages in the intake are quite small. The cooled EGR condenses in the EGR passages in the intake until one or more becomes blocked. When that happens, the blocked cylinders get no EGR, and the still open ones get too much EGR. Also due to the fact that the engine periodically shuts down, things cool down, aggravating the condition. The EGR cooler becomes blocked as well. The 2010 to 2015 Prius does this quite a bit. Repair: This only applies when not leaking coolant past head gasket. Clean or replace EGR, (oven cleaner, and/or lye soak overnight), Remove and clean out intake manifold and EGR passages in the intake manifold, new intake gasket and Throttle body gasket, clean head intake port area, reassemble. If your losing coolant, that must be fixed first. Due to the engine shutting off so much, and the resulting temperature swings, the head gaskets suffer on these.
Only 1 cylinder if affected. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Scan car, pull cowl, unbolt and raise overflow bottle, leak down test the cylinder that has the most misfires, watch for air bubbles in the cooling system. If the vehicle has been driven a long period of time with the bad head gasket small chance either the block will be pitted between the cylinders and require decking or a bent rod due to hydro lock -very rare.
Thats the way i usually diag head gaskets on engines easy to get to the spark plugs. I work mainly on CDRJ vehicles. I let the engine get up to temp and then turn it off and let it sit. Come back with my 1080p 3 camera bore scope (vevor brand from amazon.. like $40). Ive delt with a lot of headgaskets leaking only when hot. Good call though,
Nice video. Might be a case where an articulating bore scope would be helpful. Someone had a video where you could watch a drop form at the junction of the top of the cylinder and the head. The drop would repeatedly grow and run down the cylinder.
2:35 good thing it has no sound if I was doing it, it would destroy the family friendly nature of your fine channel
I would think that is a great diagnosis, Kenny. With that high mileage, I would only replace the engine with another low-mileage unit, if the rest of the vehicle is good shape.
I agree. The customer declined the repair. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
One my sons has 2015 Prius 250 thousand miles on it when he bought it he had it about a month when he engine blew up 45 hundred to get it fixed this was 3 years ago so far it still running.
Great job. I hope that your feeling better along with your wife.
Thank you for your kind words. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Awesome learning video thanks so much. Please keep making these videos, I'm learning so much
I'm glad you're finding the content useful. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Very informative video brother Kenny. Thank you so much for taking the time to make it.
Glad to have you back Kenny. How’s Mrs Wrenching doing?
I hope you are feeling a bit better now Ken, they have a known head gasket problem with that symptom bud
My wife had a minivan once that kept dumping coolant into the oil. Pressure checked the cooling system and it held, but 10 minutes of driving and it was overheating. Turned out to be a crack in the head, that expanded when hot but sealed tight when cold.
Good video..! Thanks again.
Kenny you need a piece of white plastic pipe to feed the scope down it will help line it up easier for you
@williamwelling4972 You sir, are brilliant. Thank you for the tech tip! Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Not worth fixing? That's a lot of miles. But it's up to the customer 😮 Guess you get to be the second opinion guy 😊. Hope you and Mrs Meg have a wonderful merry Christmas and as always sending y'all my best 🎉
I've never seen coolant leaking into a cylinder where it didn't clean the pistons to almost new condition unless it was cought super early. Looked like fuel to me. Possibly oil. I didn't notice the water drops. good catch. Coolant it is i guess.
Ivan at Pine Hollow said because of more heat and cooling cycles from the engine coming on and going off it is hard on the head gaskets.
@billmalec Hi doc! The customer declined the repair. I won't be able to get into it further. I hope you are well. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
@WrenchingWithKenny hope you are doing better my friend
I wonder what the customer will be able to do with it? Junk it?
Re the borescope - yes you can get more rigid spiral spring ones (bend to shape) but maybe for yours use a short tube in the spark plug well to guide the camera in. Great tools.
Likely to be gasket failure.
These things are started by a traction type motor and will bend connecting rod.
They need fixing on first signs of a problem otherwise is off to Eric.
The Car Care Nut, and many other channels, have often commented about Toyota’s Super Long Life coolant, and the implication the name conveys to Toyota owners. Namely, that the coolant never needs to be changed.
I have a ‘12 Prius V. Toyota reinforced the whacky notion of a coolant that never needs to be changed by completely omitting a recommendation for service from the Recommended Service log book that they handed out to purchasers. My log book goes out to 120K miles with no mention of transmission or cooling system fluid service.
Coolant becomes acidic with age and will eat away at the gummy substance on the HG, eventually causing a leak. A regular coolant tester won’t tell you anything about this.
I bet a lot of Prius owners with high mileage have never flushed their coolant.
tape a straight piece of wood to the end of the boroscope. That will help get it in the plug hole.
Good morning Kenny,
Stick with wrenching because you suck as a PROCTOLOGIST. LOL
I thought you could use a good laugh.
😂 keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Thats a curios issue. Missed your content . Hope you stay well
I had a Ford Escort 2 1/2 years ago that had a cracked head on cylinder no. 1 and I bought a bottle of K-Seal and dumped in the radiator and the owner drove the car a couple days and kept an eye on the antifreeze and it sealed up and he has been running it ever since and he has put 5000 miles on the car with no problems, it's worth a try and you can dump it in with the antifreeze, no need to drain it and fill with water!!!!
No. Just no. As a consumer to buy a few more weeks to get something else before scrapping it, maybe. As a mechanic, who makes repairs, NO. That is not a repair. That is pure laziness.
@@edifyguy It has worked for 2 1/2 years and still working with no problems until it doesn't work anymore than I will put a reman head on it
That's not something I would be willing to do with a customer. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
you can use a transmission funnel to guide that camera in that hole .
@oldbiker9739 thanks for the tech tip! I feel like an idiot for not thinking of that. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Would be helpful that now and in the future you put in the title make of the car , like this time Toyota Prius . So if somebody is looking for Toyota problems can find it . Also you would get more hits in the future .
@kadyszrybak6280 I will do that for sure. Mrs Wrenching hasn't caught this one yet so I'm going to hustle up & put the ymm in the title. Thank you! Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Would a cracked head or cylinder wall be caused by a manufacturer defect, poor preventative maintenance or just bad luck.
BTW, glad you are back on your feet.
Meanwhile back to that '70s show, the Chevrolet Impala when you can make time.
Water coolant leak usually steam clean carbon off top of pistons.
Try K-Seal works 75% of time in our shop
REALLY? A shop? That is not a repair! That is laziness and disreputable behavior.
@edifyguy not on old POS motors 200,000 miles rusted out..Be real kid.
@edifyguy customer is given choice kid
Scotty says "no! Toyotas never have problems"
@@donb1183 Scotty is an idiot, if you’re a tech you already know this….he is a joke to real techs
😂😂😂 Thanks for the laugh! Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Kenny, @ 9:57 or so, What's the fluid on the cylinder wall? Thanks Ken.
If it had a crack in the cylinder wall you would have milkshake instead of oil.
These early to mid 2010s are known for common HG failures
If the wall is cracked, then you should see a small amount of coolant in the oil, don't you think
Personally, I wouldn't fix it. The rest of the car also has 350k on it. A new engine replacement would total the car. It would cost more than it's worth. Sometimes, you gotta know when to say goodbye. 😢
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IT was interesting to take a trip down the borascope My first time ! LMAO thanks Gary _/)
Why not a hydro carbon test of 5he coolant?
There was no evidence of exhaust getting into the coolant. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
. . . You know, whoever thinks recessing spark plug holes so deeply is in any way a good idea clearly does not live in the real world and have to do real world things.
I like most of your videos but couldn't care less about problems with a Prius.
It's only the head gasket
Bro you might need to put a little ---- around those holes easier to find that way .. its often difficult to get the camera in a spark plug hole you can ony see thru the camera i know all about plus the hole being not a lot bigger than the camera itself makes it even more challenging ok boroscope fine fine ill say it lol
Maybe the cylinder wall is cracked
Crack between valves I've seen a lot.
That's what I think too. The customer declined the repair. I won't be able see if we are correct. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
@WrenchingWithKenny don't blame him refusing the job lots of miles put it to sleep. For some reason 20 years ago those jobs weren't a big deal , must be the extra ache's , pains & wrinkles.
My god you can see rust, and washed pistons. Thats water.
Fishermen in the Caribbean Islands have some pretty ramshackle boats with very poor engines. A trick they use to fix water-jacket leaks is to add raw egg whites to the coolant when the engine is cold and then run the engine to heat it up. Apparently, the albumen works into the cracks and then cooks in place, sealing them. It seems like a wild idea, but they swear it works.
What sometimes works in a third world country where every penny is pinched out of necessity, and what a garage in a first world country can stand behind as a legitimate repair, are two very different things.
@thomasgreene5750 i have heard that it works well. I can't imagine a customer being happy with the repair here, though. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
@@WrenchingWithKenny In most cases I think that is true. However, watching that video, I remembered that "fix" and thought to myself that if it were my 350k engine and it wasn't my daily driver, I'd probably give it a try just to see if it works. If the engine is junk as it stands, there isn't too much to lose.
@@thomasgreene5750 Your heater core would really rather not be full of egg.....
Not the first time Ive seen this today. People who don’t listen and point out conditions that the channel points out. They are so clever they put in time stamps so we know how idiotic they are.
@wideglide2153 thanks for the laugh Keep wrenching! Kenny
You totally lost me on this one!
Need to use even thinner oil then the 0w8. Try 0w1 oil.
Hi kenny,keep up your gud work😊
Who drives a Prius 300,000 miles?
Cabbies in Chicago
Nerds
I have a friend with an ‘07 with 325k miles . The dash doesn’t work, 1 headlight is erratic but it runs fine .
@ oh, ok. lol…
Lot's of people do
pine hallow auto diagnostics had this same thing on customers car. very good video. ua-cam.com/video/FQSGK7aBRwk/v-deo.htmlsi=8pqfrmJI5reeLjH7
Thanks for the recommendation. I will check it out. Keep wrenching 🔧 Kenny
Great video