@@R9naldo He ran the trains at scale speed. For instance, if the model train is 1:100 scale, he would take the real train's speed and scale it down by a factor of 100. A 1:100 scale model running at 1 mph looks like a life-size train running at 100 mph.
@@R9naldoScale speed as ForteRepublic explained, but also positioning the camera so that it's close to the track and at the same height as your eyes would be if you were standing there watching a real train go past.
Honestly, those scale speeds were so real! A credit to the designer and his calculations!! (Just for one moment) Imagine those scenes in full focus with a Shrubbery, small trees and a couple of Country Cottages, and a few Fake Livestock. Done in both 2D and even 3D. I swear that it could look like the real thing. Camera Angle enhances the end results too!. Greetings from Australia.
@@Peterkragger They were commenting about the real Shinkansen, from real life experience. Not the pretend toy in the video. Its not that hard to comprehend their statement.
Except that high speed trains run on seamless welded track in order prevent excessive wear on the wheels and the rails themselves. In fact, almost all modern track these days is welded and you would be hard pressed to find track that has been bolted, except for the most rural of parts that haven't been replaced yet. Tom Scott did a really nice video about it a while back, Anyway, just like the real thing, there is no click and clack anymore.
Well... the sound comes from the frequency the wheels have to turn. As most electric and diesel trains have the same wheel size, the frequency of the sound will go up the faster the train becomes. And as miniature trains are build to scale, just much smaller, they will sound the same when they have the same speed as the original ones. Because their small wheels have to turn as often as the real ones.
@@acmenipponair that makes sense :) But my point was mainly about the "depth" of the sound (not just the frequency), that with the camera on the floor it is nicely captured. but thanks anyway for your reply.
What's wild to me is how with the fastest train, you could literally hear the doppler effect with the motor sound as it passed by. That plus the clacking of the wheels gave these trains some wild realism!
I don't know what it is.. but I have always been fascinated with model trains. They take me back to my youth, when a mate had a workshop where he would make all the grasses & trees for scenery from sawdust & wood shavings. I could watch the train go around countless times & not get bored. No idea why the algorithm gave me this video, but I'm glad it did. Well done 👌🏻
Top gear presenter James May did a bit on a program about toys where he took these scale toy trains and attempted to beat a world record for the longest toy train track, they ended up using an old railroad track and did it back again after the first program aired, would recommend and both programs captured that same magic of model trains that you described
I always wondered why grown men 'play' with trains etc. It is because it triggers memories of everything in childhood from that era and the fascination of discovering those interests, it's the same with classic cars and motorbikes too. Very ASMR as they say these days. Nothing childish about it.
I never imagined 30 years ago I would be clicking on a video like this, watching it and feeling satisfied about the experience. What a world, kinda sad really
I like that the camera gradually moves away as they get faster - you get to see the fast trains for longer and it looks like the "cameraman" is standing back to be safe haha
Yes, except that "KPH" isn't actually a thing. Unless you're talking about kilo-Poise-Henrys, which would be a really weird measure of viscosity and inductance... It'd be interesting to find an application where that actually makes sense 🤔 Anyway, the metric system measures (moderate) speeds in km/h or m/s. Please stop using KPH.
Yes, when it's written as km/h 😉 If you're going to use the metric system, at least use it properly. It works so well because it's internationally intelligible, no matter what language you speak. Making up your own rules doesn't work very well in that context.
@@krugerdave if you’re trying to be a pedant and say that “per” in “kph” isn’t international, you should look at the “hour” too, it’s not part of the SI system either 😆 and litres isn’t either. But yet we all use kph, hour, and litres
Thanks for posting this video. It annoys me when I come across a finely-crafted model railroad layout with the trains operating at absurdly exaggerated speeds. It seems to be the case more often than not.
I know, right? I once came across a video of a Z scale layout and was blown away by how realistic it looked--in large part because the train was moving at scale speed. On the other hand, I’ve seen videos of O Scale subway trains that annoy me because they’re darting around an otherwise quite realistic cityscape.
This video weirdly gave me a burst of nostalgia. I used to live in a very rural part of south Wales, perhaps a thousand meters from the railway south of Carmarthen. Trains didn't pass through often enough to be bothersome, just enough to sort of punctuate the day, and the sound they made on clear nights would come in through my bedroom window when I kept it open in the summer. From that distance, they sounded very much like the model trains in this video. It's funny how much a random sound can transport you back to something you didn't really appreciate at the time but which now you realize kind of defines you in a small way...
Pity the real APT didn't work. Love the train with South East Network livery and the BR Shunter. The 125 in it's old livery brings back many memories of the real thing. ❤
I remember in the 80’s standing on a platform when two 125’s went through the station simultaneously, crossing on different lines without stopping. The noise and vibration was unbelievable. Thunder of the gods!
Wow, the angle of the camera was really good, but the various trains tested brought real satisfaction to me. Rally well executed in relation to noise performance too.
I see the trains whizz by waiting to come back from work at Filton Abbeywood, and lots of them don't stop at the station. This felt absolutely spot on wise from what I see go flying past.
The first train set I ever got was one of those awesome little N gauges. The engine had the Canadian Northern logo on it. It also had a little headlight on it, and I loved playing with it in the evening with my bedroom lights turned off. Fond memories. 🙂
I'm impressed. Btw, to make the track to a scale that allows the train to travel 300 km/h, you'd need approx. 25 m of curve radii for N scale (4000m real, 1:160)
Although a large scale RC car/truck guy....N scale trains hold a certain fascination to me. A very well presented and interesting demonstration, thanks.
this is the sort of thing that makes the whole miniature trains diorama hobby click. seeing other scale stationary object next to them moving at those speeds must look pretty cool.
Very very cool. I can relate because I road the barely crawling Amtrak back in the 1970s when it had to slow down and stop in Connecticut to switch (I think from diesel to electric power), and most recently I've often ridden the high speed rail in China at 320 kph. This video captures it all.
Never understood why so many people ( or places) are running their model trains far beyond scale speed, it just doesn’t look right and the trains are worn out faster, too. Nice demo with matching trains vs speed, like many other people pointed out here. 👍
So right it sounds(speaks) for itself! Excellent! This has been understood for years, but little kids in the 70’s would have thought the faster the better! Cheers
Love watching steam locos running at scale speeds. I remotor and add further gear reduction to my marx locos so they run 20 to 40 mph scale scale speeds. Also add a full wave bridge and super capasitors to cruise smooth over less than clean track.
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It’s 2am, i should be sleeping, but here i am, sitting here. Watching model trains go vroom cuz *fun*. As i’m typing this I’m looking up model trains to buy. Edit: guys the 3am motivation is kicking in because i saw a gym ad, wish me luck on my 100 pushup journey
It would be good to feature a 120km/h representation (rated speed for commuter railways e.g. London Overground) and a 320km/h representation (rated speed for Class 374s on Eurostar) as well
Would have liked to see your calculations. So many model railroaders video their trains moving ridiculously fast. ie switchers on branch lines moving at apparently 50 MPH / 80KMH. Nice to see slower speeds.
Dude, why did you change the camera position? The whole idea was to show the difference in speed without changing the viewing angle and the position of the observer
I like that even at that scale you still get the ca-clack ca-clack sound as they pass by
You won't have that sound on welded rail. Hi speed trains would always be on welded rail, only the older freight lines would still be jointed rail.
@@ffjsbI would love to imagine the Eurostar driving on jointed rail, it'd sound like an A-10 on a gun run
@@IAm18PercentCarbon Until it derailed....
That's right little baby boi 😊
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That's so cool, with the camera on the ground you can really feel that the scale speed is the "real" speed.
How tf did he do that how did he make it look real speed? Just camera trick?
@@R9naldo He ran the trains at scale speed. For instance, if the model train is 1:100 scale, he would take the real train's speed and scale it down by a factor of 100. A 1:100 scale model running at 1 mph looks like a life-size train running at 100 mph.
@@R9naldoScale speed as ForteRepublic explained, but also positioning the camera so that it's close to the track and at the same height as your eyes would be if you were standing there watching a real train go past.
Honestly, those scale speeds were so real! A credit to the designer and his calculations!! (Just for one moment) Imagine those scenes in full focus with a Shrubbery, small trees and a couple of Country Cottages, and a few Fake Livestock. Done in both 2D and even 3D. I swear that it could look like the real thing. Camera Angle enhances the end results too!. Greetings from Australia.
They seem super slow to be honest
Standing next to a Shinkansen going past at 300kph is quite something.
It's a Eurostar
@@Peterkragger They were commenting about the real Shinkansen, from real life experience. Not the pretend toy in the video. Its not that hard to comprehend their statement.
@@Peterkragger it sure is :)
@@LiquorandCheeseburgersEasy tiger! This ain't politics😅
@@peteratkinson922 No, it isn't politics.
But it's stupid simple, big guy.
I love how the high speed trains sound have that classic whoosh sound while the slower ones have more clicks and clacks just like the real thing.
trtr turtur trtr turtur
Except that high speed trains run on seamless welded track in order prevent excessive wear on the wheels and the rails themselves. In fact, almost all modern track these days is welded and you would be hard pressed to find track that has been bolted, except for the most rural of parts that haven't been replaced yet.
Tom Scott did a really nice video about it a while back,
Anyway, just like the real thing, there is no click and clack anymore.
Dude the scaling was spot on! It actually felt like i was a mini figurine watching very fast trains
Yeah it actually was trippy.
Time scale was still in normal instead of mini time.
What the hell are you saying?! You ARE a mini fig!
Not really.
I like how you switched trains so the look matches what real trains could achieve speeds.
Wow, I love the sound, it kind of matches the real sound too.
What a camera standing directly on the floor will do!
Well... the sound comes from the frequency the wheels have to turn. As most electric and diesel trains have the same wheel size, the frequency of the sound will go up the faster the train becomes. And as miniature trains are build to scale, just much smaller, they will sound the same when they have the same speed as the original ones. Because their small wheels have to turn as often as the real ones.
@@acmenipponair that makes sense :) But my point was mainly about the "depth" of the sound (not just the frequency), that with the camera on the floor it is nicely captured.
but thanks anyway for your reply.
Now that's just brilliant. The impression is actually quite scary at the very high speeds. Truly well done.
What's wild to me is how with the fastest train, you could literally hear the doppler effect with the motor sound as it passed by. That plus the clacking of the wheels gave these trains some wild realism!
I liked how the rear Class 43 had a bit of a roar to it.
I don't know what it is.. but I have always been fascinated with model trains. They take me back to my youth, when a mate had a workshop where he would make all the grasses & trees for scenery from sawdust & wood shavings. I could watch the train go around countless times & not get bored.
No idea why the algorithm gave me this video, but I'm glad it did. Well done 👌🏻
Top gear presenter James May did a bit on a program about toys where he took these scale toy trains and attempted to beat a world record for the longest toy train track, they ended up using an old railroad track and did it back again after the first program aired, would recommend and both programs captured that same magic of model trains that you described
@@guy990 thanks for tip! Will check that out
I always wondered why grown men 'play' with trains etc. It is because it triggers memories of everything in childhood from that era and the fascination of discovering those interests, it's the same with classic cars and motorbikes too. Very ASMR as they say these days. Nothing childish about it.
I never imagined 30 years ago I would be clicking on a video like this, watching it and feeling satisfied about the experience. What a world, kinda sad really
Sad?
@@thomase13 It was a moment, spend too much time at my desk watching YT when I could be doing something more productive.
@@TheStealthbobIf it relaxes you then I dont see a problem with it. Mindlessly scrolling through tiktok does more brain damage than this lol
I know what you mean, 30 years ago I was reading a book.
You guys don't have to be as obsessed with your phones as you claim young people are you know...
0:55 The 140mph one was just like watching the Acela rail pass my old place. The rhythm and everything.
I like that the camera gradually moves away as they get faster - you get to see the fast trains for longer and it looks like the "cameraman" is standing back to be safe haha
Thanks for displaying the speed in both MPH and KPH!
Yes, except that "KPH" isn't actually a thing. Unless you're talking about kilo-Poise-Henrys, which would be a really weird measure of viscosity and inductance... It'd be interesting to find an application where that actually makes sense 🤔 Anyway, the metric system measures (moderate) speeds in km/h or m/s. Please stop using KPH.
@@krugerdavewow, this is the first time I’ve realised that KPH doesn’t actually make sense
Kilometres per hour. Plenty of sense
Yes, when it's written as km/h 😉 If you're going to use the metric system, at least use it properly. It works so well because it's internationally intelligible, no matter what language you speak. Making up your own rules doesn't work very well in that context.
@@krugerdave if you’re trying to be a pedant and say that “per” in “kph” isn’t international, you should look at the “hour” too, it’s not part of the SI system either 😆 and litres isn’t either. But yet we all use kph, hour, and litres
Surprising amount of detail on such small models.
Good camera focus as well.
The audio in this video is SO. GOOD. thanks for posting
Model trains are so much fun, the scale speeds make them look even better!
i have never seen anyone run these lil things accurately. nice work!
Was not expecting the Doppler effect to scale down this well. Really fascinating!
Thanks for posting this video. It annoys me when I come across a finely-crafted model railroad layout with the trains operating at absurdly exaggerated speeds. It seems to be the case more often than not.
I know, right? I once came across a video of a Z scale layout and was blown away by how realistic it looked--in large part because the train was moving at scale speed. On the other hand, I’ve seen videos of O Scale subway trains that annoy me because they’re darting around an otherwise quite realistic cityscape.
This video weirdly gave me a burst of nostalgia. I used to live in a very rural part of south Wales, perhaps a thousand meters from the railway south of Carmarthen. Trains didn't pass through often enough to be bothersome, just enough to sort of punctuate the day, and the sound they made on clear nights would come in through my bedroom window when I kept it open in the summer. From that distance, they sounded very much like the model trains in this video. It's funny how much a random sound can transport you back to something you didn't really appreciate at the time but which now you realize kind of defines you in a small way...
The HST and APT once gone past left that real line noise behind. 😮 crazy!
I really love the fact that you have shown different speeds with matching trains. Amazing details ❤️
One of the coolest videos I've seen, I never knew how badly I needed to see model trains running at scale speed! Lovely camerawork as well 😍
That’s so cool. The sound and the rate the carriages pass looks and sounds very authentic
Pity the real APT didn't work. Love the train with South East Network livery and the BR Shunter. The 125 in it's old livery brings back many memories of the real thing. ❤
I remember in the 80’s standing on a platform when two 125’s went through the station simultaneously, crossing on different lines without stopping.
The noise and vibration was unbelievable.
Thunder of the gods!
Really cool trains! They also sound really good👍
Agreed
The 125 bought back memories of standing at the level crossing near my childhood home
Wow, the angle of the camera was really good, but the various trains tested brought real satisfaction to me. Rally well executed in relation to noise performance too.
Love trains. That was fun to watch with no music. Thank you ... ❤️🙏🤝
Cool! Small hint - please remember that in metric system we write km/h not "kph"
I see the trains whizz by waiting to come back from work at Filton Abbeywood, and lots of them don't stop at the station. This felt absolutely spot on wise from what I see go flying past.
Great video. Would have been nice to see a 155mph APT!
I love how you start to hear the doppler effect more throughout
Great, thanks for sharing this excellent time calculator, I‘ll test it for my H0 Märklin locos on my small Noch Layout 👍
so when i was playing with model cars as a kid I was reaching supersonic speeds
Yes you were, and hey I love your vids
Really cool vid, love the simple ones.
The first train set I ever got was one of those awesome little N gauges. The engine had the Canadian Northern logo on it. It also had a little headlight on it, and I loved playing with it in the evening with my bedroom lights turned off. Fond memories. 🙂
All British rail class 37, 40, 55 and 45 is 90mph for safety rails speed
I thought i was the only one who cared about scale speed. This video makes me very happy. Looks fantastic
Plot twist: The train is normal sized but he built a massive scaled-up version of his house around it.
I rode the maglev from Shanghai Pudong to the airport, 20 years ago when it was still new. It was going 420 km/h, IIRC. What an experience.
Excellent comparison!
I'm impressed. Btw, to make the track to a scale that allows the train to travel 300 km/h, you'd need approx. 25 m of curve radii for N scale (4000m real, 1:160)
surely they arent that slow
I like that you filmed it with so much bokeh that it simulates the cataracts of typical model builders
Well assembled track
I love how even the "ta-tang ta-tang" sound of the wells over rail junctions is pretty much "at scale"!!!
So, let me get this straight. Are you translating Model Speeds to match real life Loco speeds?
Yeah, exactly that, the trains are doing the equivalent speed for the scale. Correct speed is worked out by using the link in the video description.
Although a large scale RC car/truck guy....N scale trains hold a certain fascination to me.
A very well presented and interesting demonstration, thanks.
Diesel 0:04
Every one knows that
Why do I keep seeing these types of comments in most videos. People time stamping what happens within a few seconds of the start of the video?
More specifically a class 08
@@train_dude_youtube9 yeah duh they the same thing
@@daniela-tj1cuokay okay jeez don’t need to act so offended
That is so realistic on scale. Nice work. I wish we had high speed trains in the USA
That is super impressive. Not into model trains at all but that’s cool how they sound so similar when you run them at the scaled speed
The scaling was perfect, even the sounds matched up which is awesome and as someone who lives on an upgraded line the 200kph was very much accurate!
this is the sort of thing that makes the whole miniature trains diorama hobby click. seeing other scale stationary object next to them moving at those speeds must look pretty cool.
Very enjoyable! I like how you progressed to more streamlined, speed-appropriate trains!
In N-scale, realistic speed is often overlooked.
I enjoyed this way more than I should have! It even sounds like how trains sound when they pass by you in real life. Very nice! 👍
Very very cool. I can relate because I road the barely crawling Amtrak back in the 1970s when it had to slow down and stop in Connecticut to switch (I think from diesel to electric power), and most recently I've often ridden the high speed rail in China at 320 kph. This video captures it all.
That‘s so cool. You can really feel the speed from that point of view.
So cool and satisfying. The last one appears to be Eurostar.
Never understood why so many people ( or places) are running their model trains far beyond scale speed, it just doesn’t look right and the trains are worn out faster, too. Nice demo with matching trains vs speed, like many other people pointed out here. 👍
Makes me miss my 00 guage layout from 50 years ago. Mix of Hornby pre-war 3-rail die-cast and post war stuff too. Wait - it's still in the loft!!
Thank you for this illustration of train speeds, it would have been nice to know what the trains were.
So right it sounds(speaks) for itself! Excellent! This has been understood for years, but little kids in the 70’s would have thought the faster the better! Cheers
Fantastic. I didn't realise they were N gauge until I read the description afterwards.
I love your trains! I have no experience in train models, nor have I often ever seen any in the media, but this looks absolutely amazing! 👏
The miniature world don’t you just love it! thank you for doing that!
As a former model train kid, HO scale, this is very cool!
Love watching steam locos running at scale speeds. I remotor and add further gear reduction to my marx locos so they run 20 to 40 mph scale scale speeds. Also add a full wave bridge and super capasitors to cruise smooth over less than clean track.
I love this video. Mesmerizing...
then I got scared & intimidated by what lurked behind that giant door!
Very nice. The narrow depth of field really helps.
Now, THIS is useful information. So happy to stumble on this indispensable content
The HST sounded brilliant
Really cool idea especially with the tilt focus! But now I’m going to damn model trains, and my feed.. lol
Love the focal length on the camera work.
Brilliant. In most t videos, model trains (especially the Christmas ones) drive way too fast. This directly feels right. Spot on.
To join in with everyone else saying much the same thing, it's lovely how this also gets the cadence for the clickity-clack just right, for "free"!
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Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
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6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Captured that Doppler Effect, perfectly!
I see the Eurostar go past pretty often. Was almost familiar to see it go past at the end
This was therapeutic to me for some reason. Not even kidding. this shut my brain up some how.
N gauge is so cute. Loving the EP ballast with built in colouring.
crazy how even the doppler effect is minimized perfectly here
It’s 2am, i should be sleeping, but here i am, sitting here. Watching model trains go vroom cuz *fun*. As i’m typing this I’m looking up model trains to buy.
Edit: guys the 3am motivation is kicking in because i saw a gym ad, wish me luck on my 100 pushup journey
I love your train set.. The kid in me would play with that all day.
That’s an impressive collection of trains!
i'd love to see this again from a wider, room-for-scale perspective
What a great video. Short and to the (interesting) point without a lot of BS.
I'd love to hear what it would sound like if you scaled down the pitch by the same factor.
You are just showing off a sweet selection of trains!🚅
Nice to see the different speeds to scale.
Depth of field was a bit too tight though.
Everything is relative. Looking at the world from different perspectives changes the mind.
That camera focus is stellar...
It would be good to feature a 120km/h representation (rated speed for commuter railways e.g. London Overground) and a 320km/h representation (rated speed for Class 374s on Eurostar) as well
Would have liked to see your calculations. So many model railroaders video their trains moving ridiculously fast. ie switchers on branch lines moving at apparently 50 MPH / 80KMH. Nice to see slower speeds.
did some math, 300kmh in a presumably 1:30 scale would be around 10kmh IRL
Dude, why did you change the camera position?
The whole idea was to show the difference in speed without changing the viewing angle and the position of the observer
I don’t even like trains like an enthusiast, but this was fascinating to me
This guy is living my childhood dream